taking care of their kids e.g. emotionally & financially. You know....credit for being involved fathers, attending school functions, attending games, helping the child with homework, handling yucky chores like diaper changing and cleaning up vomit/snotty noses, and taking the kid to and from school.

Or is that just the shit they ought to do? I heard a radio commentator saying that there's not enough credit given to fathers and that most family ads show women as the primary caregiver.

Discuss...

Everytime someone clean a shitty diaper and wipes a baby's shitty ass or has to handle a screamin child that person should get a gold star (like we got in elementary school) to wear on their shirt for the rest of the day.

Both deserve credit.

No, they don't but it's such a rarity and that's why it's celebrated so much.

johnart said:

Everytime someone clean a shitty diaper and wipes a baby's shitty ass or has to handle a screamin child that person should get a gold star (like we got in elementary school) to wear on their shirt for the rest of the day.

Both deserve credit.

that's stuff any parent/guardian should do...

but, considering the sad state of parenthood in this country (US), I'd say, yeah, give a gold star or whatever to those who actually parent well.. knowing, and willingly performing, their responsibilities.

johnart said:

Everytime someone clean a shitty diaper and wipes a baby's shitty ass should get a gold star (like we got in elementary school) to wear on their shirt for the rest of the day.

But I want a gold star too

PANDURITO said:

johnart said:

Everytime someone clean a shitty diaper and wipes a baby's shitty ass should get a gold star (like we got in elementary school) to wear on their shirt for the rest of the day.

But I want a gold star too

Go wipe a shitty ass.

I think its just shit a father has to do, He help to create the shitball its just as much as the fathers responsiblity as the mothers to be a functioning partner in the things life.

lazycrockett said:

I think its just shit a father has to do, He help to create the shitball its just as much as the fathers responsiblity as the mothers to be a functioning partner in the things life.

credit...yes

praise...no

This is one of those threads where like, I WANT to say a whole bunch of things, but I'm not going to.

I will say I agree with pretty much everything that's been posted in response to the original question thus far.

Cerebus said:

This is one of those threads where like, I WANT to say a whole bunch of things, but I'm not going to.

I will say I agree with pretty much everything that's been posted in response to the original question thus far.

Then orgnote me. I wanna hear this.

men dont deserve credit no more than women actually get credit...DID YOU UNDERSTAND THAT BICHES.......

Vendetta1 said:

Cerebus said:

This is one of those threads where like, I WANT to say a whole bunch of things, but I'm not going to.

I will say I agree with pretty much everything that's been posted in response to the original question thus far.

Then orgnote me. I wanna hear this.

Naaaah, it's just one of those giant can of worms sort of topics. Like, why are women allowed to publically question these issues as if it's no different than asking about the weather, but if men do the same they're "women haters", "ignorant to how these things really work", or some other such nonsense. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. I started to write a dang essay. I'm gonna pass on that right now as a general peace appears to have settled back over the org.

Cerebus said:

I'm gonna pass on that right now as a general peace appears to have settled back over the org.

it's quiet out there

too quiet

Number23 said:

In Valerie Solanos's S.C.U.M. (Society for Cutting Up Men) manifesto, she states: "the male chromosome is an incomplete female chromosome. In other words the male is a walking abortion; aborted at the gene stage. To be male is to be deficient, emotionally limited; maleness is a deficient disease and males are emotional cripples." Solanos spent 3 years in jail after she shot Andy Warhol 3 times in 1968. She died in 1988. Andy went on to fool the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ie_Solanas

wow...

orger said:

credit...yes

praise...no

Exactly.

PositivityNYC said:

orger said:

Cerebus said:

it's quiet out there

too quiet

Well... I may actually have spoken too soon in that regard.

Number23 said:

PositivityNYC said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ie_Solanas

wow...

She just had the rare gift of perfect clarity, like most extremists. some of these people torture animals to learn their limits, some torture conservative society.

Are you saying that you support her stance in this regard?

The only thing I give most men credit for is a good time for about 20 minutes. If they didn't have that dick between their legs, I'd probably be straight.

like orger said, credit...absolutely. praise? hell no. just take care of what you created because you're supposed to.

If a man is going to slave himself into the grave to feed a bunch of mouths then YES!

of course they do. We don't question it when people celebrate mothers, do we?

JerseyKRS said:

like orger said, credit...absolutely. praise? hell no. just take care of what you created because you're supposed to.

this is true, but if a person raises good kids and sacrifices for them, they may deserve praise from their own children (if not the rest of the world) since so few actually do what they're supposed to.

Not enough people get praise for doing what they are supposed to do (not just talking parents, now). They seem to get ignored in favor of holding the hands of those who fail at every turn.

orger said:

credit...yes

praise...no

That sounds good to me.

Congratulations to the pops!

JerseyKRS said:

like orger said, credit...absolutely. praise? hell no. just take care of what you created because you're supposed to.

orger said:

Cerebus said:

it's quiet out there

too quiet

okay...so maybe it wasn't Motrin I was passing out :box: