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Parents not watching their young children oft times when i'm out shopping i see children as young as three wandering through the grocery store and/or retail stores without their parents. or i see children 5 and up to 8-9yrs old running wildly through said stores.
i feel strongly that the stores should have the right to have a security guard empowered to give the responsible parent(s) citations/warning for violating their parental obligatory responsibility to watch their children.(the cite/warning should be then forwarded to that city's jurisdictional police department). i know this sounds very serious and possibly a bit "in the face" thought. however it's been documented that children being unsupervised by their parents in a public place/store have been injured, caused injury to people by running, or they have caused damage to store property. most importantly the very young ones are very vulnerable to being abducted. what are your feelings on this? Live life as though each moment is as precious & beautiful as a rainbow after a spring rain. b positive, creative, kind, productive, resourceful & respectful of humankind, & feel free 2 know that U-R-A  . i can feel it when u shine on me  | |
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lafleurdove said: oft times when i'm out shopping i see children as young as three wandering through the grocery store and/or retail stores without their parents. or i see children 5 and up to 8-9yrs old running wildly through said stores.
i feel strongly that the stores should have the right to have a security guard empowered to give the responsible parent(s) citations/warning for violating their parental obligatory responsibility to watch their children.(the cite/warning should be then forwarded to that city's jurisdictional police department). i know this sounds very serious and possibly a bit "in the face" thought. however it's been documented that children being unsupervised by their parents in a public place/store have been injured, caused injury to people by running, or they have caused damage to store property. most importantly the very young ones are very vulnerable to being abducted. what are your feelings on this? my son always used to take off to the toy aisle in the supermarket...id tell him...dont touch, only look, and id check on him every aisle of so. i got my groceries done quicker (and cheaper) he knew about stranger danger and wouldnt move from that aisle. now he heads to the game shop outside 
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we used to get this little asian boy come into our shop, about 4 yrs old, and stay for ages...no parent in site...turns out his mum had a stall upstairs!!!!
that is a little young to be wandering around seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before | |
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I work at a public library and parents leave their kids alone and/or unattended all the time. Sometimes they send a 9-10 year old sibling to watch a younger one.
People think that because it's a library it's safe but we get more weirdos than most stores because they do have in-house security. If a parent doesn't pick up their child by closing time we will call the police. We try to keep an eye on the kids, but it's hard when there is so much else going on. Parents often call us to see if their child is there but we have to tell them we are not babysitters. They expect if they drop their child off at the library, then they will stay there but that is often not the case.  | |
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319 said: I work at a public library and parents leave their kids alone and/or unattended all the time. Sometimes they send a 9-10 year old sibling to watch a younger one.
People think that because it's a library it's safe but we get more weirdos than most stores because they do have in-house security. If a parent doesn't pick up their child by closing time we will call the police. We try to keep an eye on the kids, but it's hard when there is so much else going on. Parents often call us to see if their child is there but we have to tell them we are not babysitters. They expect if they drop their child off at the library, then they will stay there but that is often not the case. we had the opposite happen once at work, there was this poor little kid in the toy dept where i worked in a major dept store, he was about 5..he was with an older brother, about 7-8..but he wasnt in the same aisle. their aunt had left them there, while she went to the library...which wasnt even in the shopping centre, but a few hundred metres up the road!!!! she had told her nephews to stay put, the poor little one was too scared to move and ended up peeing himself 
i called my supervisor, and told her about the little boy ( i had asked him was he okay....i was in store uniform, with my name tag on...he wouldnt talk to me)and she was about to phone the police, when the older boy came to the same aisle....we got his home number, and reached their dad...boy was he mad with his sister/in law (not sure which). anything could have happened  seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before | |
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prb said: 319 said: I work at a public library and parents leave their kids alone and/or unattended all the time. Sometimes they send a 9-10 year old sibling to watch a younger one.
People think that because it's a library it's safe but we get more weirdos than most stores because they do have in-house security. If a parent doesn't pick up their child by closing time we will call the police. We try to keep an eye on the kids, but it's hard when there is so much else going on. Parents often call us to see if their child is there but we have to tell them we are not babysitters. They expect if they drop their child off at the library, then they will stay there but that is often not the case. we had the opposite happen once at work, there was this poor little kid in the toy dept where i worked in a major dept store, he was about 5..he was with an older brother, about 7-8..but he wasnt in the same aisle. their aunt had left them there, while she went to the library...which wasnt even in the shopping centre, but a few hundred metres up the road!!!! she had told her nephews to stay put, the poor little one was too scared to move and ended up peeing himself
i called my supervisor, and told her about the little boy ( i had asked him was he okay....i was in store uniform, with my name tag on...he wouldnt talk to me)and she was about to phone the police, when the older boy came to the same aisle....we got his home number, and reached their dad...boy was he mad with his sister/in law (not sure which). anything could have happened Yeah that was rediculous. And even though the father wasn't there, he could have gotten in trouble with child abandonment if you all had called the police even though he left them in the care of his sister-in-law. That's why you can't have your kids going with just anybody. And sadly even SOME family members. People should know which family members are trifling or not.
I know in some cases the parents are sitting down on their butts and let the kids run wild without correcting them or anything. For instance, my family and I were in the ER one time because my father had gotten really sick. While we were waiting for the doctor to come, there was a lady with some other people sitting across the way in the waiting room but her little boy, he couldn't been no more than 2 or 3 kept playing around the electric auto doors...you know the ones that slide open once you walk up to it. Well the little boy kept running in and out the door, in and out, the mother wasn't even paying the least bit of attention to him, eventually he got too close to the doors and didn't move away fast enough where his arm literally got caught up inside the sliding part of the door. Lawd he hollered and screamed. My grandfather rushed to physically pull the door out so that the little boy's arm could be released. And because my grandfather had to force the doors open, it caused the doors to malfuction, so immediately after he saved the little boy, the doors slid shut like SMACK just like that. Had my grandfather and the little boy still been in the path of the doors, they would have gotten seriously injured or possibly killed. Would you believe that while all of this is happening the mother is just sitting there? She didn't even come over, I don't even remember her thanking my grandfather for saving her little boy's arm or anything. The little boy just ran to her crying and that was it. My family and I were just in awe of the ignorance  SOME people just don't need to have kids.
[Edited 4/7/10 5:04am] [Edited 4/7/10 5:06am] I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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missfee said: prb said: we had the opposite happen once at work, there was this poor little kid in the toy dept where i worked in a major dept store, he was about 5..he was with an older brother, about 7-8..but he wasnt in the same aisle. their aunt had left them there, while she went to the library...which wasnt even in the shopping centre, but a few hundred metres up the road!!!! she had told her nephews to stay put, the poor little one was too scared to move and ended up peeing himself
i called my supervisor, and told her about the little boy ( i had asked him was he okay....i was in store uniform, with my name tag on...he wouldnt talk to me)and she was about to phone the police, when the older boy came to the same aisle....we got his home number, and reached their dad...boy was he mad with his sister/in law (not sure which). anything could have happened Yeah that was rediculous. And even though the father wasn't there, he could have gotten in trouble with child abandonment if you all had called the police even though he left them in the care of his sister-in-law. That's why you can't have your kids going with just anybody. And sadly even SOME family members. People should know which family members are trifling or not.
I know in some cases the parents are sitting down on their butts and let the kids run wild without correcting them or anything. For instance, my family and I were in the ER one time because my father had gotten really sick. While we were waiting for the doctor to come, there was a lady with some other people sitting across the way in the waiting room but her little boy, he couldn't been no more than 2 or 3 kept playing around the electric auto doors...you know the ones that slide open once you walk up to it. Well the little boy kept running in and out the door, in and out, the mother wasn't even paying the least bit of attention to him, eventually he got too close to the doors and didn't move away fast enough where his arm literally got caught up inside the sliding part of the door. Lawd he hollered and screamed. My grandfather rushed to physically pull the door out so that the little boy's arm could be released. And because my grandfather had to force the doors open, it caused the doors to malfuction, so immediately after he saved the little boy, the doors slid shut like SMACK just like that. Had my grandfather and the little boy still been in the path of the doors, they would have gotten seriously injured or possibly killed. Would you believe that while all of this is happening the mother is just sitting there? She didn't even come over, I don't even remember her thanking my grandfather for saving her little boy's arm or anything. The little boy just ran to her crying and that was it. My family and I were just in awe of the ignorance SOME people just don't need to have kids.
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my niece nearly got collected by a transport trolley near the ICU when my dad had his bladder removed..she wouldnt stay with me in the waiting room, and kept taking off (my sister was in with dad...it was 2 visitors at a time) I told her, thats why you have to stay put, and not run off...she proceeded to have a tanny on the floor, i told her, i dont care if you kick and scream, just move out of the way of ppl!!! "I WANNA SEE PAAAAA 
i got the glare  spoilt brat!!!
she was 4 and a half, shouldnt have been there in the first place, i left my 7 yo at home with his dad. she had been in and out of the oncology ward, seeing her other grandparents, my sister thought she would be okay 
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missfee said: prb said: we had the opposite happen once at work, there was this poor little kid in the toy dept where i worked in a major dept store, he was about 5..he was with an older brother, about 7-8..but he wasnt in the same aisle. their aunt had left them there, while she went to the library...which wasnt even in the shopping centre, but a few hundred metres up the road!!!! she had told her nephews to stay put, the poor little one was too scared to move and ended up peeing himself
i called my supervisor, and told her about the little boy ( i had asked him was he okay....i was in store uniform, with my name tag on...he wouldnt talk to me)and she was about to phone the police, when the older boy came to the same aisle....we got his home number, and reached their dad...boy was he mad with his sister/in law (not sure which). anything could have happened Yeah that was rediculous. And even though the father wasn't there, he could have gotten in trouble with child abandonment if you all had called the police even though he left them in the care of his sister-in-law. That's why you can't have your kids going with just anybody. And sadly even SOME family members. People should know which family members are trifling or not.
I know in some cases the parents are sitting down on their butts and let the kids run wild without correcting them or anything. For instance, my family and I were in the ER one time because my father had gotten really sick. While we were waiting for the doctor to come, there was a lady with some other people sitting across the way in the waiting room but her little boy, he couldn't been no more than 2 or 3 kept playing around the electric auto doors...you know the ones that slide open once you walk up to it. Well the little boy kept running in and out the door, in and out, the mother wasn't even paying the least bit of attention to him, eventually he got too close to the doors and didn't move away fast enough where his arm literally got caught up inside the sliding part of the door. Lawd he hollered and screamed. My grandfather rushed to physically pull the door out so that the little boy's arm could be released. And because my grandfather had to force the doors open, it caused the doors to malfuction, so immediately after he saved the little boy, the doors slid shut like SMACK just like that. Had my grandfather and the little boy still been in the path of the doors, they would have gotten seriously injured or possibly killed. Would you believe that while all of this is happening the mother is just sitting there? She didn't even come over, I don't even remember her thanking my grandfather for saving her little boy's arm or anything. The little boy just ran to her crying and that was it. My family and I were just in awe of the ignorance SOME people just don't need to have kids.
[Edited 4/7/10 5:04am] [Edited 4/7/10 5:06am]  that's really sad to see a mom not care like that!  | |
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I'm not sure police notification would have much of a place because short of pretty certain endangerment/neglect, most laws of which I'm aware don't too much dictate to what extent a parent must closely watch their kid. But I'm totally fine with stores having their own reasaonable policies and procedures around this sort of thing. Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
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lafleurdove said: oft times when i'm out shopping i see children as young as three wandering through the grocery store and/or retail stores without their parents. or i see children 5 and up to 8-9yrs old running wildly through said stores.
i feel strongly that the stores should have the right to have a security guard empowered to give the responsible parent(s) citations/warning for violating their parental obligatory responsibility to watch their children.(the cite/warning should be then forwarded to that city's jurisdictional police department). i know this sounds very serious and possibly a bit "in the face" thought. however it's been documented that children being unsupervised by their parents in a public place/store have been injured, caused injury to people by running, or they have caused damage to store property. most importantly the very young ones are very vulnerable to being abducted. what are your feelings on this? although it's not behavior I'd let my kids get away with, I do NOT think your idea is a good one. I mean what would constitute "unsupervised" ? how would these store security guys be trained? how much "empowerment" would they be given? ugh! just too much for me to even fathom. hell NO! I can see that any given store could have a story policy whereas if children are reported to be unsupervised or are running wild or whatever the store could reserve the right to tell you you're not allowed to shop in their store for a period of time or ever again for that matter but...something tells me no store interested in making money is gonna do something like that. "not a fan"  yeah...ok | |
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this woman learned her lesson
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
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muirdo said: this woman learned her lesson
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Shorty said: lafleurdove said: oft times when i'm out shopping i see children as young as three wandering through the grocery store and/or retail stores without their parents. or i see children 5 and up to 8-9yrs old running wildly through said stores.
i feel strongly that the stores should have the right to have a security guard empowered to give the responsible parent(s) citations/warning for violating their parental obligatory responsibility to watch their children.(the cite/warning should be then forwarded to that city's jurisdictional police department). i know this sounds very serious and possibly a bit "in the face" thought. however it's been documented that children being unsupervised by their parents in a public place/store have been injured, caused injury to people by running, or they have caused damage to store property. most importantly the very young ones are very vulnerable to being abducted. what are your feelings on this? although it's not behavior I'd let my kids get away with, I do NOT think your idea is a good one. I mean what would constitute "unsupervised" ? how would these store security guys be trained? how much "empowerment" would they be given? ugh! just too much for me to even fathom. hell NO! I can see that any given store could have a story policy whereas if children are reported to be unsupervised or are running wild or whatever the store could reserve the right to tell you you're not allowed to shop in their store for a period of time or ever again for that matter but...something tells me no store interested in making money is gonna do something like that. And you are right, no store is going to do that. It's the almighty dollar first before the welfare of children is even considered. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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prb said: missfee said: Yeah that was rediculous. And even though the father wasn't there, he could have gotten in trouble with child abandonment if you all had called the police even though he left them in the care of his sister-in-law. That's why you can't have your kids going with just anybody. And sadly even SOME family members. People should know which family members are trifling or not.
I know in some cases the parents are sitting down on their butts and let the kids run wild without correcting them or anything. For instance, my family and I were in the ER one time because my father had gotten really sick. While we were waiting for the doctor to come, there was a lady with some other people sitting across the way in the waiting room but her little boy, he couldn't been no more than 2 or 3 kept playing around the electric auto doors...you know the ones that slide open once you walk up to it. Well the little boy kept running in and out the door, in and out, the mother wasn't even paying the least bit of attention to him, eventually he got too close to the doors and didn't move away fast enough where his arm literally got caught up inside the sliding part of the door. Lawd he hollered and screamed. My grandfather rushed to physically pull the door out so that the little boy's arm could be released. And because my grandfather had to force the doors open, it caused the doors to malfuction, so immediately after he saved the little boy, the doors slid shut like SMACK just like that. Had my grandfather and the little boy still been in the path of the doors, they would have gotten seriously injured or possibly killed. Would you believe that while all of this is happening the mother is just sitting there? She didn't even come over, I don't even remember her thanking my grandfather for saving her little boy's arm or anything. The little boy just ran to her crying and that was it. My family and I were just in awe of the ignorance SOME people just don't need to have kids.
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my niece nearly got collected by a transport trolley near the ICU when my dad had his bladder removed..she wouldnt stay with me in the waiting room, and kept taking off (my sister was in with dad...it was 2 visitors at a time) I told her, thats why you have to stay put, and not run off...she proceeded to have a tanny on the floor, i told her, i dont care if you kick and scream, just move out of the way of ppl!!! "I WANNA SEE PAAAAA
i got the glare spoilt brat!!!
she was 4 and a half, shouldnt have been there in the first place, i left my 7 yo at home with his dad. she had been in and out of the oncology ward, seeing her other grandparents, my sister thought she would be okay
No disrespect, but if that is your neice and you knew your sister was in with your father, then why didn't you MAKE the little girl stay with you? I think your sister was depending on you to watch her little girl while you guys were out waiting. If she kept taking off, then did you run off after her? Did you catch her and hold her in your lap until your sister was done? I'm sorry but even though your neice is your sister's responsiblity, I think you could have done a bit more in this situation. I agree with you when you say that she shouldn't had been there in the first place, but since she was there, you should have taken it upon yourself to make sure your neice would stop wandering off to places....or if she kept taking off, at least walked with her to where ever she was going to. I have a godson who is 4 yrs. old and I would just die if anything happened to him while I was watching him because at that moment I AM responsible for him until his mother comes back from whatever she's doing. Just my two cents. [Edited 4/7/10 10:25am] I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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I work at a pharmacy and yesterday this kid was just running around the store so much that the opened the swing door and was back in the drug area with us, I just smiled and shook my head but in my mind I was like damn lady grab your kid | |
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doegx said: I work at a pharmacy and yesterday this kid was just running around the store so much that the opened the swing door and was back in the drug area with us, I just smiled and shook my head but in my mind I was like damn lady grab your kid
that's trifling. Yet if her kid came up missing or was killed accidently then they are all in tears about it wondering what happened when all they had to do was watch their kids in the first place. That mess pisses me off.[Edited 4/7/10 10:41am] I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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muirdo said: this woman learned her lesson
and she is probably living with that memory for the rest of her life. seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before | |
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missfee said: prb said:
my niece nearly got collected by a transport trolley near the ICU when my dad had his bladder removed..she wouldnt stay with me in the waiting room, and kept taking off (my sister was in with dad...it was 2 visitors at a time) I told her, thats why you have to stay put, and not run off...she proceeded to have a tanny on the floor, i told her, i dont care if you kick and scream, just move out of the way of ppl!!! "I WANNA SEE PAAAAA
i got the glare spoilt brat!!!
she was 4 and a half, shouldnt have been there in the first place, i left my 7 yo at home with his dad. she had been in and out of the oncology ward, seeing her other grandparents, my sister thought she would be okay
No disrespect, but if that is your neice and you knew your sister was in with your father, then why didn't you MAKE the little girl stay with you? I think your sister was depending on you to watch her little girl while you guys were out waiting. If she kept taking off, then did you run off after her? Did you catch her and hold her in your lap until your sister was done? I'm sorry but even though your neice is your sister's responsiblity, I think you could have done a bit more in this situation. I agree with you when you say that she shouldn't had been there in the first place, but since she was there, you should have taken it upon yourself to make sure your neice would stop wandering off to places....or if she kept taking off, at least walked with her to where ever she was going to. I have a godson who is 4 yrs. old and I would just die if anything happened to him while I was watching him because at that moment I AM responsible for him until his mother comes back from whatever she's doing. Just my two cents. [Edited 4/7/10 10:25am] thanks for you opinion, i would probably think the same in a different situation. she is a brat, spoiled rotten. without physically restraining her, (and her screaming the hospital down) she was so quick, id let her go, and she'd take off. i literally had to run after her (my arthritis wasnt under control then, running hurt!!) i had chased her 3 times before she nearly got hit...she stopped running after that, then launched her tanny on the floor. without giving her a whooping on the butt, and physically restraining her i was at a loss. i shouldnt have been put in that position in the first place...my son was with my other sister at home...she came in later while i watched her kids..at home. i think my point was, i WAS watching her, and she still played up. and i was able to yank her back from said trolley, so she didnt get hit. i did try [Edited 4/7/10 16:22pm] seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before | |
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Parents not watching children.
Seems ok by me, I mean you can always have more.
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prb said: missfee said: No disrespect, but if that is your neice and you knew your sister was in with your father, then why didn't you MAKE the little girl stay with you? I think your sister was depending on you to watch her little girl while you guys were out waiting. If she kept taking off, then did you run off after her? Did you catch her and hold her in your lap until your sister was done? I'm sorry but even though your neice is your sister's responsiblity, I think you could have done a bit more in this situation. I agree with you when you say that she shouldn't had been there in the first place, but since she was there, you should have taken it upon yourself to make sure your neice would stop wandering off to places....or if she kept taking off, at least walked with her to where ever she was going to. I have a godson who is 4 yrs. old and I would just die if anything happened to him while I was watching him because at that moment I AM responsible for him until his mother comes back from whatever she's doing. Just my two cents. [Edited 4/7/10 10:25am] thanks for you opinion, i would probably think the same in a different situation. she is a brat, spoiled rotten. without physically restraining her, (and her screaming the hospital down) she was so quick, id let her go, and she'd take off. i literally had to run after her (my arthritis wasnt under control then, running hurt!!) i had chased her 3 times before she nearly got hit...she stopped running after that, then launched her tanny on the floor. without giving her a whooping on the butt, and physically restraining her i was at a loss. i shouldnt have been put in that position in the first place...my son was with my other sister at home...she came in later while i watched her kids..at home. i think my point was, i WAS watching her, and she still played up. and i was able to yank her back from said trolley, so she didnt get hit. i did try
[Edited 4/7/10 16:22pm] Oh okay, I wasn't trying to judge you or anything, please don't get that notion, I was just wondering what the deal was with that. I understand  You are right, she should have left her at home.[Edited 4/8/10 4:33am] I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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missfee said: prb said: thanks for you opinion, i would probably think the same in a different situation. she is a brat, spoiled rotten. without physically restraining her, (and her screaming the hospital down) she was so quick, id let her go, and she'd take off. i literally had to run after her (my arthritis wasnt under control then, running hurt!!) i had chased her 3 times before she nearly got hit...she stopped running after that, then launched her tanny on the floor. without giving her a whooping on the butt, and physically restraining her i was at a loss. i shouldnt have been put in that position in the first place...my son was with my other sister at home...she came in later while i watched her kids..at home. i think my point was, i WAS watching her, and she still played up. and i was able to yank her back from said trolley, so she didnt get hit. i did try
[Edited 4/7/10 16:22pm] Oh okay, I wasn't trying to judge you or anything, please don't get that notion, I was just wondering what the deal was with that. I understand
[Edited 4/8/10 4:22am] i know you werent, sorry if i came across all defensive.  seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before | |
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muirdo said: this woman learned her lesson
I don't know why this video was posted...it really has nothing to do with the topic....completely different IMO. "not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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missfee said: Shorty said: although it's not behavior I'd let my kids get away with, I do NOT think your idea is a good one. I mean what would constitute "unsupervised" ? how would these store security guys be trained? how much "empowerment" would they be given? ugh! just too much for me to even fathom. hell NO! I can see that any given store could have a story policy whereas if children are reported to be unsupervised or are running wild or whatever the store could reserve the right to tell you you're not allowed to shop in their store for a period of time or ever again for that matter but...something tells me no store interested in making money is gonna do something like that. And you are right, no store is going to do that. It's the almighty dollar first before the welfare of children is even considered. I mean...I hear what your saying but...it's not the store's responsibility. "not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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Shorty said: muirdo said: this woman learned her lesson
I don't know why this video was posted...it really has nothing to do with the topic....completely different IMO. Totally different. | |
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prb said: missfee said: Oh okay, I wasn't trying to judge you or anything, please don't get that notion, I was just wondering what the deal was with that. I understand
[Edited 4/8/10 4:22am] i know you werent, sorry if i came across all defensive. No you weren't defensive at all, I just wanted you to know that I wasn't trying to be negative all up in your business Cool I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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