WOW!!! You know I don't get into GD much until I've exhausted my patience in the other threads but when I do, I always seem to find more reasons to absolutely adore you!

My love and good wishes to you and your family!

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

thank you sweet Sister There are a couple more pieces I'm dropping in the placeholders. You know I had to slam that group with Miss Badu at the annual event I always think of the nice fish raggedy fish, thanks to you. When we got feedback the following week on the event, one of our member's mother told her my presentation was her favorite

thank you for your friendship and I'm glad that the raggedy fish brought us together to we could put our pretty fish to use! I love you very very much.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I was all in just raggedy fish mode on the phone with an annoying, freeloading in-law and then I read this. Now I'm all I'm glad I read this AFTER that call.

I truly, truly love you very much too!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I am speechless reading this...

Thanks for this beautiful thread and best of luck to you guys.

babynoz said:

Thank you sweetums. My mother is on board and everything! I have no idea how this conversation is going to go but I hope we can get some shit out on the table and deal with them realisitcally and lovingly. There will be a lot of defenses and walls but hopefully this night will be the first step in tearing them down!

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Thinking of you here in Michigan late into the night ~~~ sending beautiful energy and much love to you. I knew the cards needed to belong to you. So happy they found their way and that you appreciate their mysteries. n

MoonSongs said:

You cannot begin to understand how staggering those cards are to me. To never even have imagined the cat tarot and there is one and they are so beautiful and amazing and that they came from you

The cards from the night of the informational event. Just wow..... I've connected with these cards so naturally. As you know, Atlas Shrugged is full of philosophical musings. I have had to re-read paragraphs because I will read one sentence, and it presents a hardcore and profound idea and then the next sentence does the same thing and the next and the next and the next and taken separately, they seem to have no common theme but then put together you see the thread that connects them all. So yeah, I see what you mean about having to go back and see what the hell you just read!

So I was really feeling inspired by the main character, thinking I wanted to have that kind of control and power over myself and situations and it occured to me to pull a card. So I pulled the cards out of the box and, again, there was one solitary card that remained behind. I pulled it out, it was the death card. Besides the devil that card holds the most symbolic negativity.

So I thought to myself, the two times this has happened, first the devil and now death, the deck is presenting itself to me without negativity. So while I was still inspired, I decided that I would pull a card. I shuffled and sat still, then pulled my card and it was Temperance:



This card, is between the Devil and Death I will talk about this later, but I realized this confirms that my demon to slay is anger. Temperance will be my key to successful living. Just gotta figure out which battles are righteous

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prb said:

Thanx - better now

ImmA NOT be your Friend here

cuz you won't accept me on Facebook

The head of my department, Phil, died in June. Yesterday was my boss's birthday, who was a direct report to Phil.

The night before, I had a dream and it was one of those vivid dreams and Phil came to me. In the dream I am at work and I notice him standing at the door to one of the offices. He has his back to the hallway and I come walking by and I'm thinking Um, hello Phil is standing there, does nobody notice!?! In the dream I know he's passed so I am seeing his spirit. I didnt' want to scare him off so very quietly I approached him and said his name. He turned and lifted his index finger to his mouth and went shhhhh

So yesterday we gather in one of my co-workers offices to give our boss her gift. We collectively let one co-worker pick the gift. She made her choice the night I had that dream so when it came time to open the gift I had no idea what it even was.

My boss unwraps the paper and there is a wooden corkscrew. A beautiful corckscrew. She held it up, tinkered with it and commented how nice it was and then my co-worker informed her that it was from Phil's house and that she saw it during the estate sale and thought she should have it.

I think Phil was telling me not to ruin the surprise and that is why he was saying

An amazing story Supa. I'm glad you made it through and turned all the negatives into positives.
I don't think we started off on the right foot.
It's very nice to meet you

Mach said:

I only got one more piece to slip in but the rest is here!

Mach said:

It cannot be true that I haven't accepted you!

checkin right now!

shortnsweet said:

was I mean to you?

If so, you see there is more to me than just Mr. Meanie!

Thank you for taking the time to read it

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Ok, how do I find you?!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I have sent 3 friend requests since I joined several months ago

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Sorta but no worries I could hold a grudge about as easy as I could carry 1,000 pounds of squirmy slimey fish, lol

Mach said:

why don't I see it then?! You KNOW I need the Queen Carolinian Mama on my list!

shortnsweet said:

If it had to do with Prince, Republicants or Christianity, those are my achilles heels! I offer an olive branch and promise to remember your name so I can be rational next time I see you in other forums

Mach said:

Now it's your turn to ignore me!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

as of 3:48 ...still no request in inboxes

maybe we arn't allowed to be FaceHell Friends





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Mach said:

Unless there's an imposter Missy, it should be there!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

hmmmmm ~ the death and visitation in your dreams of your co~worker ~ Your Death cards????
Remember too, that Death does not always mean the physical passing of a person. Death takes on many incarnations. My friend, Sebastian, use to tell me that even when we have an epiphany we have a time of grieving for what, by necessity, had to be left behind. Once there is enlightenment in any area of our lives, we cannot go back to the old way of thinking. So, there is a sort of death of a part of our spirit when we embrace the new.

MoonSongs said:

mach just pulled the death card for me: http://prince.org/msg/100/319464

babynoz said:

Well tonight is our second meeting! The first meeting was amazing in that we have never done anything like it before. I used my skills that I learned leading the meeting for my public speaking group! I was moderator

We gave everyone 2 minutes to bring to the table what they considered the biggest issue in the house. The issues were many:

• Mom - Kitchen, organization and chores (I had deja vu just now!)
  
  
• Sister Alison - Respect
  
  
• Brother-in-law Fernando: Respect
  
  
• Nephew Gage: A clean house
  
  
• Nephew Andrew: Being attacked/blamed.
  
  
• Sister Natalie: Organizing the house.
  
  
• Dad - Intentional destruction (the boys punching holes in walls, destroying stuff)
  

My issue was respect as well. I mentioned my stepdad and how he is paying the bills and putting a roof over everyone's head and how that needs to be respected. I mentioned the disrespect shown to my mother.

I mentioned my sister with the 4 kids, who moved back home after being evicted and how she has been drowning for a very long time even before she moved back home. I addressed the house saying that she should be recognized for working and not being on welfare and how she has NEVER quit moving forward no matter all the disgusting obstacles thrown her way.

I also addressed the respect of the children towards adults and the adults towards the kids. I brought up that name calling must stop. On all sides.

Tonight we are going to talk about game plans to achieve the goals of organizing the house and treating each other better. There is so much tension in the house and I am thrilled that finally I'm not facing it alone!

OK, last night's meeting didn't go so well

Mom is defensive and half in half out of the meeting doing "other things"

My sister is swiping at my mother unfairly, which I had to counter.

My nephews, no surprise, are OUT. OF. CONTROL


Anyway, in the beginning I questioned whether we should introduce the kids to these meetings right away. I was concerned they would distract and destruct and this is what happened. I suggested that the adults have meetings first so we can hash out our issues. We are not. on. the. same. page. I told my family that we adults needed to come together, get our issues on the table and come to a consensus on how we approach the kids.

I told them that we need to agree to a universal approach so that the kids know no matter which one of us they come to or which one is dealing with them, they won't get different answers from the other adults and this way they will always know what to expect from us.

In the meantime, I said that we can include the kids in the planning and execution of dealing with the physical house issues. Once we adults reach our concensus and start building those bridges with each other, then and only then can we bring the kids into the fold. At that point we will have a meeting that is only for the kids for them express themselves and bring their issues to the table.

I am so happy that my brother is helping me with this. I have the vision, he has the practical approach. Together we can both understand what we are dealing with and where we want to go and together we can get there.

My cousin Aileen called this morning to tell me her mom, my aunt Sandy, is not doing well. She has internal bleeding in her leg that the doctors can't control. She is back home and I have no idea what the outcome is going to be. I'm going to see her tomorrow.

why do i see south park in those cards?

Cuddles said:

Because you're cuddles!

Richard, I haven't had the chance to read through all you've written. I've been naughty and skipped to your family's meeting.

I cannot begin to express how moved I am by your journey. I believe in honesty, so in honesty, I will say that there are sections of your journey that I don't know if I'll ever process, due to my differing beliefs. That, however, is my issue and in no way lessens my awe at the openness of your spirit.

Love you.