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Reply #30 posted 08/30/09 9:13am

connorhawke

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Vendetta1 said:

JustErin said:

Who left the GD door open today?
worship


giggle

It's an interesting question but I just can't relate my relationships with Prince songs, sorry. Love and lust play a part but Prince? Seriously?

Perhaps if the discussion removed the "Prince" portion I could contribute better? hmmm

Then again, I tried hard to take this thread more seriously until I read this:

Tame said:

It appears that although men and woman can differ on their feelings, sometimes both agree that outside stimulation is a turn on. I believe that can be true when you are stupid, not when you are respecting someone.


All eyes wander. Anyone who denies this is a fool. Are you trying to say that only stupid people see outside stimulation as a turn on? Have you never had a fantasy whilst in a relationship that does not involve your partner? Have you never taken a sideways glance at a hottie while involved?

Even nuns feel like shagging sometimes....

There's that pedestal again....."stupid".....sheesh shake
"...and If all of this Love Talk ends with Prince getting married to someone other than me, all I would like to do is give Prince a life size Purple Fabric Cloud Guitar that I made from a vintage bedspread that I used as a Christmas Tree Skirt." Tame, Feb
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Reply #31 posted 08/30/09 9:19am

JustErin

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Fauxie said:

'Tame wild thoughts'?

Ok, I'm all for being faithful and devoted in a relationship, and constantly lusting after people other than your partner is definitely a bad thing imho, but that line above speaks to me far too much about forcing yourself to change, to bend to something that may even be unnatural and unhelpful. It's all too try-hard for my liking. I let my thoughts, lustful or otherwise, roam where they will. If I still love my wife and want to have sex with her and have no desire to cheat then I'll still be around and it's all still good. I obviously still love her the way I thought I did. I just thought about choking Erin and that's fine.


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Reply #32 posted 08/30/09 9:32am

connorhawke

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I've just reread the thread in entirety and it sounds like you've got the bar raised a little too high for 'love', in that kind of fantasy way that most love songs portray it.

Correct me if you think I'm wrong.
"...and If all of this Love Talk ends with Prince getting married to someone other than me, all I would like to do is give Prince a life size Purple Fabric Cloud Guitar that I made from a vintage bedspread that I used as a Christmas Tree Skirt." Tame, Feb
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Reply #33 posted 08/30/09 10:48am

sweething

True love is not superficial and is all encompassing. If a man or woman truly loves someone they cannot help but eat, breath and sleep all of the associated emotions.

Lust is a fleeting compulsion.

True love overcomes such compulsions but it takes work, more work today than before because of society's changed values.

Eye am a lonely painter
Eye live in a box of paints
Eye used 2 b frightened by the devil
and drawn 2 those who weren't afraid
Remember when u told me
that love was touching souls?
Well, surely u touched mine
Part of u pours out of me from time 2 time in these lines
U're in my blood like holy wine... u're so bitter and so sweet

Eye could drink a case of u darling
and still b on my feet... still b on my feet
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Reply #34 posted 08/30/09 11:13am

aroundtheworld

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...there is NO room 4 lust in my L-I-F-E anymore!!..

..when we go after things that can only bring insecurity and ugliness(example lust)..it is out of His great L-O-V-E that theLord may HIT US HARD..

..mzsexybaby sexy


sad that's sad somehow, but hey - have u ever heard of st theresa? here's a picture of her: if she's not having a lustful orgasm with god, then i don't know cloud9

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Reply #35 posted 08/30/09 4:24pm

Fauxie

JustErin said:

Fauxie said:

'Tame wild thoughts'?

Ok, I'm all for being faithful and devoted in a relationship, and constantly lusting after people other than your partner is definitely a bad thing imho, but that line above speaks to me far too much about forcing yourself to change, to bend to something that may even be unnatural and unhelpful. It's all too try-hard for my liking. I let my thoughts, lustful or otherwise, roam where they will. If I still love my wife and want to have sex with her and have no desire to cheat then I'll still be around and it's all still good. I obviously still love her the way I thought I did. I just thought about choking Erin and that's fine.


lol


According to Tame that last sentence spells doom, where my wife and I 'let one or the other turn away from devotion' or 'both turn away and create a space between them. That space will expand and contract over time, or it will continually expand to their love's demise'.

Homewrecker! mad
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Reply #36 posted 08/30/09 4:27pm

ZombieKitten

I can't even read this thread dead
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Reply #37 posted 08/30/09 5:23pm

CalhounSq

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ZombieKitten said:

I can't even read this thread dead

For real! It makes me wanna burn stuff disbelief arrow
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #38 posted 08/30/09 5:34pm

ThreadBare

CalhounSq said:

ZombieKitten said:

I can't even read this thread dead

For real! It makes me wanna burn stuff disbelief arrow

You usually want to burn stuff, though. rolleyes
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Reply #39 posted 08/30/09 5:36pm

PurpleRighteou
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hokie said:

Tame said:

How can you make love like the first woman and man and believe that Adam or Eve gave an inkling of thought to whether or not GOD was gonna give them other sex partners? I am certain EVE would start singing, "FURY," if the song between them wasn't, "The Greatest Romance that's ever been sold."

Would Adam want Eve thinking about some gorgeous blue rainbow guy when He is wearing the plants in the family? I'm just being silly...but U know what I mean...Devotion is the key to a divine love. cool



eek


lol how in the world did u find that pic?
I graduated bitches!!! 12-19-09 woot! dancing jig
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Reply #40 posted 08/30/09 5:52pm

Fauxie

PurpleRighteous1 said:

hokie said:




eek


lol how in the world did u find that pic?


My Computer > My Documents > My Pictures > Plants Pants Pics 1

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Reply #41 posted 08/30/09 7:46pm

CalhounSq

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ThreadBare said:

CalhounSq said:


For real! It makes me wanna burn stuff disbelief arrow

You usually want to burn stuff, though. rolleyes

Untrue, take it back! hmph!
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #42 posted 08/30/09 7:47pm

ThreadBare

CalhounSq said:

ThreadBare said:


You usually want to burn stuff, though. rolleyes

True, burn it black! woot!


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Reply #43 posted 08/30/09 7:48pm

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ThreadBare said:

CalhounSq said:


True, burn it black! woot!


shocked

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heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #44 posted 08/31/09 12:20pm

mzkqueen03

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Tame said:

mzkqueen03 said:

...there is NO room 4 lust in my L-I-F-E anymore!!..
.
...L-O-V-E is WATCHFUL..and sleeping slumbereth not..
..though weary..it is not tired...though pressed..it is not straitened...though alarmed..it is not confounded...BUT AS A LIVELY FLAME AND BURING TORCH..it forces its way upwards..and securely PASSES through all..
...4 it is a LOUD cry in the ears of God...
..the mere ardent affection of the S-O-U-L..
...where it saith.."My God..my L-O-V-E..thou art all mine..and i am all thine"..
.
..God is L-O-V-E..but God can also be a tyrant.....4 our good..
.
..when we go after things that can only bring insecurity and ugliness(example lust)..it is out of His great L-O-V-E that theLord may HIT US HARD..
...on occasion He is forced 2 take up the "holy hammer" hammer
..it goes against His nature 4 the Lord 2 hurt us..but oftenthere is no other way he can draw our attention...
...if He tries 2 tap out shoulders..we pay no heed...if he says from within.."HEY YOU!"..we plug our ears in a frenzy of activity...
..BUT ONE GOOD..HARD BLOW.....AND WE LISTEN!!!..
.
....2 put it very simply...the purpose of the pain we undergo in L-I-F-E with lust...is 2 help us go beyond pain....and find L-O-V-E..
..mzsexybaby sexy


I agree with you, I am strict in this way. I have room for forgiveness for my lover always, but to tolerate his lust was outside of our lust for eachother couldn't go very far into forever happily. cool

.
..let me ask u a question tame..i'm interested in ur answer..and anyone else's too...ok..here it goes:...
.
...what would u pick??...
..if u had D opportunity 2 talk with Mr.Nelson..be his friend..talk 2 him and u and him conversate over anything..BUT WILL NEVER HAVE INTIMACY..would u??...OR..if u had the opportunity 2 have an intimate moment with him..mind u...just ONE INTIMATE MOMENT..just one..and never speak with him again..would u??..
.
...would u pick L-O-V-E...and never have sex with prince..EVER..but b friends..NO,NO,NO INTIMACY...NONE..no kiss,no touch,no hug...none..just mere converation..ONLY!!!!!...
.
..or
.
....would it be LUST??...u can hug him.kiss him,do the vertical joy-ride...but that's it!!!!...ONE TIME ONLY OPPORTUNITY!!!
..WHAT WOULD U CHOOSE???..
...mzsexybaby eek
[Edited 8/31/09 12:44pm]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #45 posted 08/31/09 12:42pm

mzkqueen03

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aroundtheworld said:

mzkqueen03 said:

...there is NO room 4 lust in my L-I-F-E anymore!!..

..when we go after things that can only bring insecurity and ugliness(example lust)..it is out of His great L-O-V-E that theLord may HIT US HARD..

..mzsexybaby sexy


sad that's sad somehow, but hey - have u ever heard of st theresa? here's a picture of her: if she's not having a lustful orgasm with god, then i don't know cloud9


.
...such a masterpiece...the artist was very brave in showing this version...
..thank-u 4 the pic...
..my lust days are over...simple as that..i don't desire lust anymore..and i'm ok with it...i F-E-E-L happier...
..with this desire..however..comes a terrible responsibility...i know now..i must begin the L-O-N-G..arduous task of training the mind and senses through spiritual disciplines..nobody has 2 tell me this..4 the AWARENESS wells up from D-E-E-P inside...
.
..see when God sees the S-O-U-L pure as it was in its origin..He tugs at it with a glance..draws it and binds it 2 Himself with fiery L-O-V-E that by itself could annihilate the immortal S-O-U-L..in so acting..God so transforms the S-O-U-L in Him that it knows nothing other than God...and He continues 2 draw it up in2 His fiery L-O-V-E until He restores it 2 THAT PURE STATE from which IT 1ST ISSUED...
.
..that is why the S-O-U-L seeks 2 cast off ANY AND ALL IMPEDIMENTS..so that it can BE LIFTED UP 2 GOD!!!..
...mzsexybaby sexy
[Edited 8/31/09 12:46pm]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #46 posted 08/31/09 2:43pm

MacDaddy

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Reply #47 posted 08/31/09 4:48pm

Tame

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connorhawke said:[quote]

Vendetta1 said:



giggle

It's an interesting question but I just can't relate my relationships with Prince songs, sorry. Love and lust play a part but Prince? Seriously?

Perhaps if the discussion removed the "Prince" portion I could contribute better? hmmm

Then again, I tried hard to take this thread more seriously until I read this:

Tame said:

It appears that although men and woman can differ on their feelings, sometimes both agree that outside stimulation is a turn on. I believe that can be true when you are stupid, not when you are respecting someone.


All eyes wander. Anyone who denies this is a fool. Are you trying to say that only stupid people see outside stimulation as a turn on? Have you never had a fantasy whilst in a relationship that does not involve your partner? Have you never taken a sideways glance at a hottie while involved?

Even nuns feel like shagging sometimes....

There's that pedestal again....."stupid".....sheesh shake


Don't over react...I've made the stupid decisions myself! For example sitting beside the man I was to marry watching him put his face between another girls legs for a bachelor party...That was stupid of me to be there. I didn't like it...
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #48 posted 08/31/09 4:53pm

Tame

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connorhawke said:

I've just reread the thread in entirety and it sounds like you've got the bar raised a little too high for 'love', in that kind of fantasy way that most love songs portray it.

Correct me if you think I'm wrong.


You could be right about the bar being raised too high for anyone to reach. Maybe love that lasts forever cannot be faithful thoroughly in the mind. Maybe only the hearts and the bodies go to bed every night but the mind is off in another world whenever it wants to be. Maybe that's what we have to appreciate if the mind doesn't turn to having to live their ideas that are outside of the marriage.
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #49 posted 08/31/09 4:56pm

Tame

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sweething said:

True love is not superficial and is all encompassing. If a man or woman truly loves someone they cannot help but eat, breath and sleep all of the associated emotions.

Lust is a fleeting compulsion.

True love overcomes such compulsions but it takes work, more work today than before because of society's changed values.

Eye am a lonely painter
Eye live in a box of paints
Eye used 2 b frightened by the devil
and drawn 2 those who weren't afraid
Remember when u told me
that love was touching souls?
Well, surely u touched mine
Part of u pours out of me from time 2 time in these lines
U're in my blood like holy wine... u're so bitter and so sweet

Eye could drink a case of u darling
and still b on my feet... still b on my feet


That is a nice opinion about lust being fleeting. I agree it takes work. Capturing your thoughts and knowing where that seed goes if you let it grow is the cure.

Beautiful Prince lyrics. cool
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #50 posted 08/31/09 5:01pm

Tame

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Fauxie said:

JustErin said:



lol


According to Tame that last sentence spells doom, where my wife and I 'let one or the other turn away from devotion' or 'both turn away and create a space between them. That space will expand and contract over time, or it will continually expand to their love's demise'.

Homewrecker! mad


No. Let me set the stage....If a man is having repeated fantasies about another woman and he tells his wife about (assuming the husband and wife are close enough to be open) He has admitted turning away from her.
If she says, well then, I'll let my thoughts get carried away as well, she is also turning away...creating a space between them.

If she allows him to let those thought fizzle and is still there for him lovingly, she is responsible for keeping that space from expanding.

Two people are responsible for the relationship ending or being preserved under life's challenges.
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #51 posted 08/31/09 5:05pm

Tame

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mzkqueen03 said:

Tame said:



I agree with you, I am strict in this way. I have room for forgiveness for my lover always, but to tolerate his lust was outside of our lust for eachother couldn't go very far into forever happily. cool

.
..let me ask u a question tame..i'm interested in ur answer..and anyone else's too...ok..here it goes:...
.
...what would u pick??...
..if u had D opportunity 2 talk with Mr.Nelson..be his friend..talk 2 him and u and him conversate over anything..BUT WILL NEVER HAVE INTIMACY..would u??...OR..if u had the opportunity 2 have an intimate moment with him..mind u...just ONE INTIMATE MOMENT..just one..and never speak with him again..would u??..
.
...would u pick L-O-V-E...and never have sex with prince..EVER..but b friends..NO,NO,NO INTIMACY...NONE..no kiss,no touch,no hug...none..just mere converation..ONLY!!!!!...
.
..or
.
....would it be LUST??...u can hug him.kiss him,do the vertical joy-ride...but that's it!!!!...ONE TIME ONLY OPPORTUNITY!!!
..WHAT WOULD U CHOOSE???..
...mzsexybaby eek
[Edited 8/31/09 12:44pm]


This is a peculiar question because if I was only going to able to have one intimate moment as friends, or one intimate moment as lover's...I'd choose the lover's for sure...I'm not crazy. razz

Of course what I truly want is friends and lovers forever. cool
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Reply #52 posted 08/31/09 5:34pm

Tame

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Tame said:

Fauxie said:



According to Tame that last sentence spells doom, where my wife and I 'let one or the other turn away from devotion' or 'both turn away and create a space between them. That space will expand and contract over time, or it will continually expand to their love's demise'.

Homewrecker! mad


No. Let me set the stage....If a man is having repeated fantasies about another woman and he tells his wife about (assuming the husband and wife are close enough to be open) He has admitted turning away from her.
If she says, well then, I'll let my thoughts get carried away as well, she is also turning away...creating a space between them.

If she allows him to let those thoughts fizzle and is still there for him lovingly, she is responsible for keeping that space from expanding.

Two people are responsible for the relationship ending or being preserved under life's challenges.


I just want to be clear...You have to have some kind of strict belief system in this world...
Love isn't..."Anything goes." Love makes sacrifices for love because it is fragile. I am trying to inspire you to respect every minute of your love life by being faithful to it in your mind.
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #53 posted 08/31/09 6:28pm

Fauxie

Tame said:

Tame said:



No. Let me set the stage....If a man is having repeated fantasies about another woman and he tells his wife about (assuming the husband and wife are close enough to be open) He has admitted turning away from her.
If she says, well then, I'll let my thoughts get carried away as well, she is also turning away...creating a space between them.

If she allows him to let those thoughts fizzle and is still there for him lovingly, she is responsible for keeping that space from expanding.

Two people are responsible for the relationship ending or being preserved under life's challenges.


I just want to be clear...You have to have some kind of strict belief system in this world...
Love isn't..."Anything goes." Love makes sacrifices for love because it is fragile. I am trying to inspire you to respect every minute of your love life by being faithful to it in your mind.


There's some common sense in the things you said, but nothing profound. I don't really think about these things in-depth, I just get on with it. I don't need inspiration from you either, but thanks. My love is "Anything goes", 'strict' nothing. Why force anything? Not for me, sorry.
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Reply #54 posted 08/31/09 10:14pm

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Tame said:

connorhawke said:



All eyes wander. Anyone who denies this is a fool. Are you trying to say that only stupid people see outside stimulation as a turn on? Have you never had a fantasy whilst in a relationship that does not involve your partner? Have you never taken a sideways glance at a hottie while involved?

Even nuns feel like shagging sometimes....

There's that pedestal again....."stupid".....sheesh shake


Don't over react...I've made the stupid decisions myself! For example sitting beside the man I was to marry watching him put his face between another girls legs for a bachelor party...That was stupid of me to be there. I didn't like it...


OK, it was just the wording that made me go eek
Your explanation clears that up.
[Edited 8/31/09 22:16pm]
"...and If all of this Love Talk ends with Prince getting married to someone other than me, all I would like to do is give Prince a life size Purple Fabric Cloud Guitar that I made from a vintage bedspread that I used as a Christmas Tree Skirt." Tame, Feb
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Reply #55 posted 09/01/09 3:59am

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mzkqueen03 said:

...there is NO room 4 lust in my L-I-F-E anymore!!..
.
...L-O-V-E is WATCHFUL..and sleeping slumbereth not..
..though weary..it is not tired...though pressed..it is not straitened...though alarmed..it is not confounded...BUT AS A LIVELY FLAME AND BURING TORCH..it forces its way upwards..and securely PASSES through all..
...4 it is a LOUD cry in the ears of God...
..the mere ardent affection of the S-O-U-L..
...where it saith.."My God..my L-O-V-E..thou art all mine..and i am all thine"..
.
..God is L-O-V-E..but God can also be a tyrant.....4 our good..
.
..when we go after things that can only bring insecurity and ugliness(example lust)..it is out of His great L-O-V-E that theLord may HIT US HARD..
...on occasion He is forced 2 take up the "holy hammer" hammer
..it goes against His nature 4 the Lord 2 hurt us..but oftenthere is no other way he can draw our attention...
...if He tries 2 tap out shoulders..we pay no heed...if he says from within.."HEY YOU!"..we plug our ears in a frenzy of activity...
..BUT ONE GOOD..HARD BLOW.....AND WE LISTEN!!!..
.
....2 put it very simply...the purpose of the pain we undergo in L-I-F-E with lust...is 2 help us go beyond pain....and find L-O-V-E..
..mzsexybaby sexy

nod
♥ Feeling Purple Rain...Don't hold on 2 the pain, hold on 2 the memories ♥
My heart will go on...Celine Dion
I will always love you...Whitney Houston
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Reply #56 posted 09/01/09 4:12pm

Tame

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Fauxie said:

Tame said:



I just want to be clear...You have to have some kind of strict belief system in this world...
Love isn't..."Anything goes." Love makes sacrifices for love because it is fragile. I am trying to inspire you to respect every minute of your love life by being faithful to it in your mind.


There's some common sense in the things you said, but nothing profound. I don't really think about these things in-depth, I just get on with it. I don't need inspiration from you either, but thanks. My love is "Anything goes", 'strict' nothing. Why force anything? Not for me, sorry.



That's cool...Only you are going to have your love life. I always have room in my heart for 4giveness, but you have to admit there is something sweet about being..."Hopelessly devoted." I could never expect that someone could offer that kind of love to me, but I do believe that I have qualities that point to being "able," to offer that kind of love. Only a long love life would answer that question for me...I would hate to find out that I was wrong... cool
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Reply #57 posted 09/01/09 4:15pm

Tame

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ladychel61 said:

mzkqueen03 said:

...there is NO room 4 lust in my L-I-F-E anymore!!..
.
...L-O-V-E is WATCHFUL..and sleeping slumbereth not..
..though weary..it is not tired...though pressed..it is not straitened...though alarmed..it is not confounded...BUT AS A LIVELY FLAME AND BURING TORCH..it forces its way upwards..and securely PASSES through all..
...4 it is a LOUD cry in the ears of God...
..the mere ardent affection of the S-O-U-L..
...where it saith.."My God..my L-O-V-E..thou art all mine..and i am all thine"..
.
..God is L-O-V-E..but God can also be a tyrant.....4 our good..
.
..when we go after things that can only bring insecurity and ugliness(example lust)..it is out of His great L-O-V-E that theLord may HIT US HARD..
...on occasion He is forced 2 take up the "holy hammer" hammer
..it goes against His nature 4 the Lord 2 hurt us..but oftenthere is no other way he can draw our attention...
...if He tries 2 tap out shoulders..we pay no heed...if he says from within.."HEY YOU!"..we plug our ears in a frenzy of activity...
..BUT ONE GOOD..HARD BLOW.....AND WE LISTEN!!!..
.
....2 put it very simply...the purpose of the pain we undergo in L-I-F-E with lust...is 2 help us go beyond pain....and find L-O-V-E..
..mzsexybaby sexy

nod


This is very pretty mzkqueen...and just so you are aware...when I replied to your previous question, it appears that I chose lust over friendship...well I didn't...I Love Prince, and I've reached the point of physical exhaustion from it. cool
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #58 posted 09/01/09 5:12pm

ingamilo

MacDaddy said:



[Edited 9/1/09 17:23pm]
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Reply #59 posted 09/01/09 5:20pm

ingamilo

ingamilo said:

MacDaddy said:





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xpt biggrin
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