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PrintableJerseyKRS said: using that logic, then:
walking near a road is suicide. eating anything you haven't grown or killed yourself is suicide. exercise is suicide. taking pharmaceuticals is suicide. just being born is suicide My Legacy
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NDRU said: JerseyKRS said: using that logic, then:
walking near a road is suicide. eating anything you haven't grown or killed yourself is suicide. exercise is suicide. taking pharmaceuticals is suicide. just being born is suicide exactly. 
People should be allowed to do what they want. Including suicide IMHO. | |
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JerseyKRS said: using that logic, then:
walking near a road is suicide. eating anything you haven't grown or killed yourself is suicide. exercise is suicide. taking pharmaceuticals is suicide. Um...huh?  | |
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DesireeNevermind said: JerseyKRS said: using that logic, then:
walking near a road is suicide. eating anything you haven't grown or killed yourself is suicide. exercise is suicide. taking pharmaceuticals is suicide. Um...huh? all the carcinogens in the air undue stress on your heart it's all perspective. | |
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to be honest, some days I'm scared to live more than I am to die.
but I did just quit smoking so yay, me  | |
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NDRU said: ZombieKitten said: I'm committing suicide as we speak then  might as well light up, then  | |
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paisleypark4 said: Just a question I always like to ask people...
What are your thoughts? Im not religious and not part of any religion. Never really thought of it like that...  Proud Memaw to Seyhan Olivia Christine ,Zoey Cirilo Jaylee & Ellie Abigail Lillian  | |
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Watching television is suicide | |
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It's the risk you take, I suppose. Does their second hand smoke make them murderers or would you call them suicide bombers?
And what about people that use tanning beds? Are they slowly commiting suicide as well? I would argue this one more than the smoking thing. Smoking is an addiction. One may choose to stop but sometimes their addiction chooses for them. It's one of the hardest things to quit and even though I would no longer pay that much money to look like an asshole, I can somewhat understand why people continue to. With that being said, I hope everyone that wants to stop smoking has the power to do so. You're fricking killing yourself, man! Shake it til ya make it  | |
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It's not suicide, but it is disgusting. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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NDRU said: Additives or no, we're not meant to inhale smoke!
I keep tryin to tell ppl this. I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh | |
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there are people all the way up the ladder that smoke...so only some people it will hurt. unlucky7 reincarnated | |
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god, i hope so, or i've been wasting a lot of time and money. | |
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You can tell from the smokers and non-smokers in this thread. Just from the way they answerd the thread.  Some people think I'm kinda cute
But that don't compute when it comes 2 Y-O-U. | |
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JerseyKRS said: using that logic, then:
walking near a road is suicide. eating anything you haven't grown or killed yourself is suicide. exercise is suicide. taking pharmaceuticals is suicide. Not exactly, because of all those things, only cigarettes will kill you when used exactly to the manufacturer's specifications. | |
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Smoking is a drug. I find people have a hard time quitting the nicotine.
If you smoke you take your chances. You made the choice to take up the filthy habit. If you get cancer you cannot blame it on the tabacco companies. Do people like their clothes and hair reeking of cigarette smoke odour, yellowing teeth? 
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moderatorluv4u said: Smoking is a drug. I find people have a hard time quitting the nicotine.
If you smoke you take your chances. You made the choice to take up the filthy habit. If you get cancer you cannot blame it on the tabacco companies. Do people like their clothes and hair reeking of cigarette smoke odour, yellowing teeth? it makes you cool. and look sexy. | |
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Yeah, I'm the son of two former smokers, whose parents also smoked.
I can't see starting smoking now. I just can't. There's too much publicity about its long-term effects. I can see trying really hard to quit. | |
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It may not appear like suicide when you're 30, but when you're 65 and have already suffered one stroke and have high blood pressure, or have had triple bypass surgery and need bloodthinners to stay alive or you are on an oxygen machine with emphysema AND you still smoke (as my father and great aunt and great uncle do respectively) -- I say that's suicide. When you get older and debilitated, it's just more obvious that you're more dedicated to the addiction than your life. Sorry, but I feel strongly about it. | |
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GirlBrother said: If smoking is suicide, then procreation is pre-meditated murder.
Whenever a child is born into the world, the only certainty is that one day it will die. Life is a death sentence. So, whenever somebody tells you not to smoke around their children, point out to them that they've already condemned them to die by creating them in the first place. Everybody should smoke. We're all going to Hell in a handbasket anyway. all the regular smokers I know hold this attitude and worldview, coincidence? | |
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paisleypark4 said: Just a question I always like to ask people...
What are your thoughts? Im not religious and not part of any religion. No. It's not a certainty that smoking will be what kills you. It's a dangerous world out there. I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. | |
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paisleypark4 said: Dewrede said: crap
smoking does not necessarily kill you But it has. My uncle died from it...does that mean it kills you ...or not? IT does not kill everyone who smokes. Everyone who gets hit by a car doesn't get killed either . . . I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. | |
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SUPRMAN said: paisleypark4 said: Just a question I always like to ask people...
What are your thoughts? Im not religious and not part of any religion. No. It's not a certainty that smoking will be what kills you. It's a dangerous world out there. that's true, and that said, it's a certainty that smoking WON'T be the thing that kills me. | |
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paisleypark4 said: Darwintheorgangrinder said: No, that means that it killed your uncle. Smoking increases the likelihood of dying from certain diseases. The tobacco industry has always pointed to people who smoked for decades without problems as proof that their product was not harmful. Obviously that is not true, but it is true the smoking doesn't kill everyone who does it. My Great-Grandfather smoked for 80 years and lived to be 103 years old. His wife smoked just as long and she lived to be 102. Some people just don't get affected by cigarette smoke. So be it told that the production of putting poisons into your system knowing it can harm one self, and when one is medicated and knowingly told that they are affecting their health by contributing to obliterate their health they are not attributing to their death? Is a drug addict not guilty for putting toxins in his body either? 'Guilty?' Of what exactly? Sinning? I would not be so presumptuous as to judge. By the way, every breath you take is contributing to your own death . . . but my guess is you aren't going to stop. I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. | |
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JerseyKRS said: DesireeNevermind said: Um...huh? all the carcinogens in the air undue stress on your heart it's all perspective. Oh.
Well, lungs are supposed to exhale all the bad stuff. And fortunately there are still some safe roads to walk on (away from heavy traffic). | |
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It's a matter of perspective, yes. (a choice of perspective) One can say, "it doesn't matter, doesn't kill everyone, we're all going to die anyway" and pin life to the level of the mundane with a don't care attitude. Or you can embrace the sacredness of life and treat your body as a temple. Love yourself or let yourself... Love others or let others... I can't say that surviving a childhood wrapped up in smoke-filled vehicles and small rooms, against my will, did much for my self esteem. | |
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heartbeatocean said: GirlBrother said: Everybody should smoke. We're all going to Hell in a handbasket anyway.
all the regular smokers I know hold this attitude and worldview, coincidence? No. Not at all. I do think that certain people are genetically predisposed to become addicted to nicotine, moreso than others... And this predisposition is also linked to other traits such as a less-optimistic realist outlook on life. Most of my friends are smokers. I'm more inclined to befriend smokers than non-smokers. There's usually a similar gallows humour in common; a degree of spontaneity; a "f**k it" attitude, which non-smokers don't possess. I don't believe these personality traits are characterised purely by an addiction to nicotine. Quiet kids whom wear black all the time and listen to The Smiths in their bedroom usually don't develop into shiny happy people in adulthood. I was just being ridiculous earlier, by the way. Nobody should smoke near children. But comparing smoking to suicide is an extreme comparison, in the same way as "birth = death". | |
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what you ate today will probably cause more harm than smoking
esp. if you live in America.....and you can blame America for that now go eat!!!! (and have a smoke afterwards - that is the best time!!) 2009 Rank Chain Segment 2008 Systemwide Sales ($Mil) 1 McDonald's1 news profile burger $ 30,025.0 2 Subway1 news profile sandwich $ 9,600.0 3 Burger King (US & Canadian) news profile burger $ 9,348.0 4 Starbucks Coffee1 news profile snack $ 8,750.0 5 Wendy's news profile burger $ 8,013.4 6 Taco Bell news profile mexican $ 6,700.0 7 Pizza Hut news profile pizza/pasta $ 5,500.0 8 Dunkin' Donuts1 news profile snack $ 5,500.0 9 KFC news profile chicken $ 5,200.0 10 Sonic news profile burger $ 3,811.2 11 Arby's news profile sandwich $ 3,371.8 12 Jack In The Box news profile burger $ 3,080.0 13 Domino's1 news profile pizza/pasta $ 3,054.6 14 Chick-fil-A1 news profile chicken $ 2,962.3 15 Panera Bread news profile sandwich $ 2,648.0 16 Dairy Queen1 news profile burger $ 2,519.0 17 Papa John's news profile pizza/pasta $ 2,034.0 18 Hardee's1 news profile burger $ 1,680.0 19 Quiznos Subs news profile sandwich $ 1,660.0 20 Popeyes1 news profile chicken $ 1,593.0 21 Carl's Jr.1 news profile burger $ 1,405.0 22 Chipotle news profile mexican $ 1,330.0 23 Panda Express news profile asian $ 1,195.0 24 Whataburger news profile burger $ 1,173.0 25 Church's Chicken news profile chicken $ 1,150.0 26 Little Caesars1 news profile pizza/pasta $ 1,055.0 27 Long John Silver's news profile seafood $ 800.0 28 Steak n Shake1 news profile burger $ 700.0 29 Zaxby's news profile chicken $ 664.0 30 Checkers/Rally's news profile burger $ 658.0 31 Boston Market news profile chicken $ 648.3 32 Culvers news profile burger $ 643.5 33 El Pollo Loco news profile chicken $ 626.9 34 Bojangles' news profile chicken $ 607.9 35 Papa Murphy's news profile pizza/pasta $ 585.0 36 CiCi's Pizza news profile pizza/pasta $ 579.9 37 White Castle1 news profile burger $ 567.9 38 Del Taco news profile mexican $ 563.2 39 Baskin Robbins1 news profile snack $ 560.0 40 Sbarro1 news profile pizza/pasta $ 500.0 41 Jimmy John's1 news profile sandwich $ 496.6 42 Captain D's news profile seafood $ 476.4 43 Jason's Deli news profile sandwich $ 467.1 44 Qdoba1 news profile mexican $ 447.5 45 Jamba Juice2 news profile snack $ 443.7 46 Cold Stone Creamery news profile snack $ 430.6 47 Krystal news profile burger $ 428.8 48 In-N-Out Burger1 news profile burger $ 420.0 49 Einstein/Noah's Bagels1 news profile sandwich $ 392.8 50 Tim Hortons news profile snack $ 345.4 [Edited 8/20/09 0:51am] [Edited 8/20/09 0:55am] [Edited 8/20/09 0:55am] | |
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Knowingly, particularly self destructive? Absolutely.
But suicide implies an intent to kill oneself, I think. I don't think this could be applied to the overwhelming majority of smokers. [Edited 8/20/09 1:20am] Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
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I smoke and if it means I'll never live to be 80 or 90, oh well.... Andy is a four letter word. | |
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