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Thread started 04/28/09 6:30am

IstenSzek

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chemtrails

i just read on a thread that prince was talking about chemtrails during
the tavis smiley interview.

is there anybody here who actually believes that chemtrails are used to
control or manipulate the minds of people?

or to lull the population into a state of sleep/false security?

i think there is probably truth in chemtrails being used to influence
the weather or to try and counter global warming (or tests for such a
possible use of chemtrails).

but isn't it a bit of a far out conspiracy theory? or is there something
about the whole chemtrails debate that i've overlooked?
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Reply #1 posted 04/28/09 6:32am

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Reply #2 posted 04/28/09 6:34am

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i wouldn't think it was mind control, but i would say its quite possible it weakens peoples immune systems
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Reply #3 posted 04/28/09 6:37am

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Cuddles said:

i wouldn't think it was mind control, but i would say its quite possible it weakens peoples immune systems


i agree. but the silver iodine etc is on the same level as exhaust
fumes and chemical plant disposals/dumping.

there's probably no "hidden agenda" to corrupt the population at
large since whomever would be behind such a measure would ultimately
also infect/poison themselves and their loved ones since this kind
of exposure spreads thinly and levels out globally.

it's scary to read just how much shit is being pumped into our seas
and skies every single day. like that continent of drifting plastic
waste in the pacific. hallelujah. it's a wonder the planet has been
holding up this well for so long.
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Reply #4 posted 04/28/09 6:43am

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IstenSzek said:

Cuddles said:

i wouldn't think it was mind control, but i would say its quite possible it weakens peoples immune systems


i agree. but the silver iodine etc is on the same level as exhaust
fumes and chemical plant disposals/dumping.

there's probably no "hidden agenda" to corrupt the population at
large since whomever would be behind such a measure would ultimately
also infect/poison themselves and their loved ones since this kind
of exposure spreads thinly and levels out globally.

it's scary to read just how much shit is being pumped into our seas
and skies every single day. like that continent of drifting plastic
waste in the pacific. hallelujah. it's a wonder the planet has been
holding up this well for so long.


The planet will go on its us humans who will suffer confused

As for chemtrail i think its a load of tosh, unless i have been lulled into apathy by a chemtrail razz
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Reply #5 posted 04/28/09 6:52am

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endymion said:

IstenSzek said:



i agree. but the silver iodine etc is on the same level as exhaust
fumes and chemical plant disposals/dumping.

there's probably no "hidden agenda" to corrupt the population at
large since whomever would be behind such a measure would ultimately
also infect/poison themselves and their loved ones since this kind
of exposure spreads thinly and levels out globally.

it's scary to read just how much shit is being pumped into our seas
and skies every single day. like that continent of drifting plastic
waste in the pacific. hallelujah. it's a wonder the planet has been
holding up this well for so long.


The planet will go on its us humans who will suffer confused

As for chemtrail i think its a load of tosh, unless i have been lulled into apathy by a chemtrail razz


you wouldn't have to worry about that with chemtrails. Now maybe with radio frequencies vibrations/tones you might.
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Reply #6 posted 04/28/09 7:29am

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I'd never even heard of it till now....
and so far...the theory starts of plausible but then quickly rushes off to crazy land...so...I'll keep reading for now and see if it comes back to plausible.
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #7 posted 04/28/09 7:34am

captaincaveman

pterodactyl chem trail was quite a sight to see

those things have crazy gas
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Reply #8 posted 04/28/09 9:13am

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Cuddles said:

endymion said:

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The planet will go on its us humans who will suffer confused

As for chemtrail i think its a load of tosh, unless i have been lulled into apathy by a chemtrail razz


you wouldn't have to worry about that with chemtrails. Now maybe with radio frequencies vibrations/tones you might.



omfg

y'all are gonna make me wear a tin foil hat before the day is done

lol
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Reply #10 posted 04/28/09 1:07pm

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captaincaveman said:

pterodactyl chem trail was quite a sight to see

those things have crazy gas

falloff

The thing I don't get is how is one chemtrail in the atmosphere really going to have any effect? Isn't it just exhaust?
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Reply #11 posted 04/28/09 1:13pm

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Reply #12 posted 04/28/09 1:20pm

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It's is complete and utter bollocks, as anyone who knows anything about aeronautical engineering, aeronautics or air transportation will quite happily explain.

I wonder how long they have been doing this and whether during some of these pictures there were more important things to do with aircraft





vapour trail : aerology also called Condensation Trail, or Contrail,


The streamer of cloud sometimes observed behind an airplane flying in clear, cold, humid air. It forms upon condensation of the water vapour produced by the combustion of fuel in the airplane engines. When the ambient relative humidity is high, the resulting ice-crystal plume may last for several hours. The trail may be distorted by the winds, and sometimes it spreads outwards to form a layer of cirrus cloud. On rare occasions, when the air is nearly saturated with water vapour, air circulation at the wing tips of an airplane may cause sufficient pressure and temperature reductions to cause cloud streamers to form.
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Reply #13 posted 04/28/09 1:31pm

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ThirdandFinal said:



love that song. love that album too smile cool
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Reply #14 posted 04/28/09 3:00pm

LleeLlee

Ive heard the chemicals in water theory to keep people dumb/subdued.
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LleeLlee said:

Ive heard the chemicals in water theory to keep people dumb/subdued.


actually here in the US there are trace amounts of all kinds of mind-bending drugs, some flushed through other people's bodies, some dumped there by pharmaceutical companies confused like it or not, many of us are 'on' prozac, hormones such as testosterone, and etc.
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Reply #16 posted 04/28/09 3:06pm

LleeLlee

XxAxX said:

LleeLlee said:

Ive heard the chemicals in water theory to keep people dumb/subdued.


actually here in the US there are trace amounts of all kinds of mind-bending drugs, some flushed through other people's bodies, some dumped there by pharmaceutical companies confused like it or not, many of us are 'on' prozac, hormones such as testosterone, and etc.



Yes, but this theory related specifically to America. I dont know why, but there was a suggestion about the government getting away with all sorts with very little opposition form the masses and the reason why etc. I heard it ages ago, years now.
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LleeLlee said:

XxAxX said:



actually here in the US there are trace amounts of all kinds of mind-bending drugs, some flushed through other people's bodies, some dumped there by pharmaceutical companies confused like it or not, many of us are 'on' prozac, hormones such as testosterone, and etc.



Yes, but this theory related specifically to America. I dont know why, but there was a suggestion about the government getting away with all sorts with very little opposition form the masses and the reason why etc. I heard it ages ago, years now.


dude, i'm way too relaxed to raise any kind of rumpus about the ... the... um, sorry, come again? confuse
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Reply #18 posted 04/28/09 3:23pm

LleeLlee

XxAxX said:

LleeLlee said:




Yes, but this theory related specifically to America. I dont know why, but there was a suggestion about the government getting away with all sorts with very little opposition form the masses and the reason why etc. I heard it ages ago, years now.


dude, i'm way too relaxed to raise any kind of rumpus about the ... the... um, sorry, come again? confuse


END OF THE WORLD.


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LleeLlee said:

XxAxX said:



actually here in the US there are trace amounts of all kinds of mind-bending drugs, some flushed through other people's bodies, some dumped there by pharmaceutical companies confused like it or not, many of us are 'on' prozac, hormones such as testosterone, and etc.



Yes, but this theory related specifically to America. I dont know why, but there was a suggestion about the government getting away with all sorts with very little opposition form the masses and the reason why etc. I heard it ages ago, years now.


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mdiver said:

It's is complete and utter bollocks, as anyone who knows anything about aeronautical engineering, aeronautics or air transportation will quite happily explain.

I wonder how long they have been doing this and whether during some of these pictures there were more important things to do with aircraft





vapour trail : aerology also called Condensation Trail, or Contrail,


The streamer of cloud sometimes observed behind an airplane flying in clear, cold, humid air. It forms upon condensation of the water vapour produced by the combustion of fuel in the airplane engines. When the ambient relative humidity is high, the resulting ice-crystal plume may last for several hours. The trail may be distorted by the winds, and sometimes it spreads outwards to form a layer of cirrus cloud. On rare occasions, when the air is nearly saturated with water vapour, air circulation at the wing tips of an airplane may cause sufficient pressure and temperature reductions to cause cloud streamers to form.
[Edited 4/28/09 13:21pm]


Thank you. I was sitting there last night, thinking, "What the hell is he going on about?" To be honest, it took about a minute before I realized he was talking about contrails - but I couldn't really figure out what he was calling them. When I read the transcript today, I said, "What is this 'chemtrail' bullshit? Ohhhhh...it's a conspiracy thing..."

That was the one part of the interview when I thought, "Uh ohhhhh...here we go. He's veering off into weirdness. He just can't help himself." disbelief

Although I must say that the fact that we agree on this makes me shake

lol
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Reply #22 posted 04/28/09 5:23pm

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"ain't no chemtrails... ha... ain't no centralized intelligence in world control... but kids want to believe there is control and order and something other than themselves keeping them down in the longrun..."

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Genesia said:

mdiver said:

It's is complete and utter bollocks, as anyone who knows anything about aeronautical engineering, aeronautics or air transportation will quite happily explain.

I wonder how long they have been doing this and whether during some of these pictures there were more important things to do with aircraft





vapour trail : aerology also called Condensation Trail, or Contrail,


The streamer of cloud sometimes observed behind an airplane flying in clear, cold, humid air. It forms upon condensation of the water vapour produced by the combustion of fuel in the airplane engines. When the ambient relative humidity is high, the resulting ice-crystal plume may last for several hours. The trail may be distorted by the winds, and sometimes it spreads outwards to form a layer of cirrus cloud. On rare occasions, when the air is nearly saturated with water vapour, air circulation at the wing tips of an airplane may cause sufficient pressure and temperature reductions to cause cloud streamers to form.
[Edited 4/28/09 13:21pm]


Thank you. I was sitting there last night, thinking, "What the hell is he going on about?" To be honest, it took about a minute before I realized he was talking about contrails - but I couldn't really figure out what he was calling them. When I read the transcript today, I said, "What is this 'chemtrail' bullshit? Ohhhhh...it's a conspiracy thing..."

That was the one part of the interview when I thought, "Uh ohhhhh...here we go. He's veering off into weirdness. He just can't help himself." disbelief

Although I must say that the fact that we agree on this makes me shake

lol
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LleeLlee said:

XxAxX said:



actually here in the US there are trace amounts of all kinds of mind-bending drugs, some flushed through other people's bodies, some dumped there by pharmaceutical companies confused like it or not, many of us are 'on' prozac, hormones such as testosterone, and etc.



Yes, but this theory related specifically to America. I dont know why, but there was a suggestion about the government getting away with all sorts with very little opposition form the masses and the reason why etc. I heard it ages ago, years now.

nod

Human guinea pigs.
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wildgoldenhoney said:

LleeLlee said:




Yes, but this theory related specifically to America. I dont know why, but there was a suggestion about the government getting away with all sorts with very little opposition form the masses and the reason why etc. I heard it ages ago, years now.

nod

Human guinea pigs.


So the American government is systematically doping the population?

Anyone who believes that shit should be medicated.
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endymion said:

IstenSzek said:



i agree. but the silver iodine etc is on the same level as exhaust
fumes and chemical plant disposals/dumping.

there's probably no "hidden agenda" to corrupt the population at
large since whomever would be behind such a measure would ultimately
also infect/poison themselves and their loved ones since this kind
of exposure spreads thinly and levels out globally.

it's scary to read just how much shit is being pumped into our seas
and skies every single day. like that continent of drifting plastic
waste in the pacific. hallelujah. it's a wonder the planet has been
holding up this well for so long.


The planet will go on its us humans who will suffer confused

As for chemtrail i think its a load of tosh, unless i have been lulled into apathy by a chemtrail razz


Yeah thats what was said about Agent Orange...
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quoted from another thread:

bellanoche said:

japanrocks said:



[Bait snip - luv4u]


Japanrocks, what about my statements indicates that? If you know anything about the history of blacks in America, which you obviously do not, I referenced facts, actual documented incidents in American history where black people were targeted for destruction. Is used them to state that if Prince bases his acceptance of the chemtrail theory on this history he is not completely "nuts" as 2Freaky opined. So, what about that says that I am breathing chemicals?


I don't want to hijack this thread or get too far OT. However, this is for Japanrocks, so that you know I am not breathing in chemtrails.

Sterilization of Black Women

"Well Grounded Fears

In the 1960s, many African Americans around the country deeply distrusted the motivations behind government funded birth control clinics, fearing it was an attempt to limit black population growth and stunt black political power. Their fears were well grounded in past experiences. In the South, black fertility had a long history of being controlled by whites. Under slavery, African American women were encouraged to have children to increase a plantation owner's wealth. After the Civil War, when African Americans were no longer valuable property, the view among white supremacists abruptly shifted. It became desirable to decrease the African American population in the South. Sterilization abuse of African American women by the white medical establishment reached its height in the 1950s and 1960s. Women who went into the hospital to deliver children often came out unable to have more."

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/a...ocide.html

Tuskegee Experiment

Using Human Beings as Laboratory Animals

The true nature of the experiment had to be kept from the subjects to ensure their cooperation. The sharecroppers' grossly disadvantaged lot in life made them easy to manipulate. Pleased at the prospect of free medical care —almost none of them had ever seen a doctor before— these unsophisticated and trusting men became the pawns in what James Jones, author of the excellent history on the subject, Bad Blood, identified as “the longest non-therapeutic experiment on human beings in medical history.”

The study was meant to discover how syphilis affected blacks as opposed to whites —the theory being that whites experienced more neurological complications from syphilis, whereas blacks were more susceptible to cardiovascular damage. How this knowledge would have changed clinical treatment of syphilis is uncertain.

. . .

When the experiment was brought to the attention of the media in 1972, news anchor Harry Reasoner described it as an experiment that “used human beings as laboratory animals in a long and inefficient study of how long it takes syphilis to kill someone.


A Heavy Price in the Name of Bad Science

By the end of the experiment, 28 of the men had died directly of syphilis, 100 were dead of related complications, 40 of their wives had been infected, and 19 of their children had been born with congenital syphilis. How had these men been induced to endure a fatal disease in the name of science?

To persuade the community to support the experiment, one of the original doctors admitted it “was necessary to carry on this study under the guise of a demonstration and provide treatment.” At first, the men were prescribed the syphilis remedies of the day —bismuth, neoarsphenamine, and mercury— but in such small amounts that only 3 percent showed any improvement.

These token doses of medicine were good public relations and did not interfere with the true aims of the study. Eventually, all syphilis treatment was replaced with “pink medicine” —aspirin.

To ensure that the men would show up for a painful and potentially dangerous spinal tap, the PHS doctors misled them with a letter full of promotional hype: “Last Chance for Special Free Treatment.” The fact that autopsies would eventually be required was also concealed.

As a doctor explained, “If the colored population becomes aware that accepting free hospital care means a post-mortem, every darky will leave Macon County...” Even the Surgeon General of the United States participated in enticing the men to remain in the experiment, sending them certificates of appreciation after 25 years in the study."


http://www.tuskegee.edu/G...?s=1207586

There are too many cases of intentional dumping of toxic waste in black neighborhoods for me to post. Just Google "dumping toxic waste in black neighborhoods" some time.
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