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PanthaGirl

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IGNORANCE..PESTILENCE..INDIFFERENCE..ILLITERACY..SIMPLICITY..SHALLOWNESS

In light of recent events here and seeing as the powers that be can change the course of any thread as it suits them, I'd like to know of peeps opinions in regards to the abovementioned and what may be the causes to such unbecoming behaviour.

I've noticed more often then not, online and in real life, that peeps seem to find the easy way out of a situation by pointing their boney fingers and blaming others and turning ones opinion into personal attacks. These same peeps in turn, blame others, and thus give up their power to change.

Is ignorance bliss? I think not in any form. The lower the IQ, the lower the desire to learn. The higher the IQ, the more you want to learn. As IQ rises, so does the percentage of the population that question beyond the traps set out. Smarter peeps do question more and aren't afraid to admit to their errors. Peeps with a degree of high knowledge that is achieved and is true (elite knowledge) seem to be happier because they know and are well informed about human virtue and nature.



Discuss...nod


The greatest ignorance is to reject something you know absolutely nothing about.

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Reply #1 posted 04/09/09 8:57am

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Oh no. Not this. disbelief Can't we all just get along? Just agree to disagree?

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Reply #2 posted 04/09/09 8:59am

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Oh no. Not this. disbelief Can't we all just get along? Just agree to disagree?


we can have this if we can have a Serena appreciation thread right ?

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Reply #3 posted 04/09/09 9:00am

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Mysterioso said:

Oh no. Not this. disbelief Can't we all just get along? Just agree to disagree?


Okay so I post a thread and would like a discussion on intelligent issues for a change and this is your reaction.

rolleyes

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Reply #4 posted 04/09/09 9:01am

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eek Well, excuse me!

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Reply #5 posted 04/09/09 9:11am

Reflection

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Mysterioso said:

Oh no. Not this. disbelief Can't we all just get along? Just agree to disagree?


doh!

WTF
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Reply #6 posted 04/09/09 9:13am

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PanthaGirl said:

Mysterioso said:

Oh no. Not this. disbelief Can't we all just get along? Just agree to disagree?


Okay so I post a thread and would like a discussion on intelligent issues for a change and this is your reaction.

rolleyes


Hey there. Brava 4 boldly bringing up a serious issue with this site, and the online culture in general. Of course, U know that doing this here, in "General Discussion", a.k.a "Land O' Cliques", means it will get torched.

Your last paragraph is quite true, and an important point, so again, BRAVA!

2 add 2 what U said, I've found that all people will react 2 a challenging situation in only 3 ways...

Run Away
Confront
Accept

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Reply #7 posted 04/09/09 9:14am

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The greatest ignorance is to reject something you know absolutely nothing about.[/quote]

I'll take the bait.... lol

so... do you think a person without a degree can not be wise? Do you think someone can be an old fool? What are virtues to you?


"In light of recent events here and seeing as the powers that be can change the course of any thread as it suits them, I'd like to know of peeps opinions in regards to the abovementioned and what may be the causes to such unbecoming behaviour."

So what prompted this specific sentiment? hmmm Are you upset? Why?

another question...

Do you respect all people?

instead of saying cheese when I take a picture, Imma say PHIMOSIS
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Reply #8 posted 04/09/09 9:16am

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PanthaGirl said:

In light of recent events here and seeing as the powers that be can change the course of any thread as it suits them, I'd like to know of peeps opinions in regards to the abovementioned and what may be the causes to such unbecoming behaviour.

I've noticed more often then not, online and in real life, that peeps seem to find the easy way out of a situation by pointing their boney fingers and blaming others and turning ones opinion into personal attacks. These same peeps in turn, blame others, and thus give up their power to change.

Is ignorance bliss? I think not in any form. The lower the IQ, the lower the desire to learn. The higher the IQ, the more you want to learn. As IQ rises, so does the percentage of the population that question beyond the traps set out. Smarter peeps do question more and aren't afraid to admit to their errors. Peeps with a degree of high knowledge that is achieved and is true (elite knowledge) seem to be happier because they know and are well informed about human virtue and nature.



Discuss...nod


The greatest ignorance is to reject something you know absolutely nothing about.



First off, your thread title sounds like the name of a Napalm Death album, but I digress...



I won't get involved in a debate about mods, as I don't come here very often and have no contact with mods or any reason to complain either about them or to them, so I will leave that to people that do.
However, as far as ignorance is concerned, how can it ever be a good thing?
I think the word is used very often to mean something more generalised than actual ignorance, more like just general rudeness, but ignorance is a good word for that. If you are open-minded and accept that other people have differing views and come from different mind-sets (often for a reason) then how can you not be tolerant to their views and their ways, so long as they don't hurt you or those around you?

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Reply #9 posted 04/09/09 9:17am

Reflection

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PanthaGirl said:

In light of recent events here and seeing as the powers that be can change the course of any thread as it suits them, I'd like to know of peeps opinions in regards to the abovementioned and what may be the causes to such unbecoming behaviour.

I've noticed more often then not, online and in real life, that peeps seem to find the easy way out of a situation by pointing their boney fingers and blaming others and turning ones opinion into personal attacks. These same peeps in turn, blame others, and thus give up their power to change.

Is ignorance bliss? I think not in any form. The lower the IQ, the lower the desire to learn. The higher the IQ, the more you want to learn. As IQ rises, so does the percentage of the population that question beyond the traps set out. Smarter peeps do question more and aren't afraid to admit to their errors. Peeps with a degree of high knowledge that is achieved and is true (elite knowledge) seem to be happier because they know and are well informed about human virtue and nature.



Discuss...nod


The greatest ignorance is to reject something you know absolutely nothing about.



tis as you say the ignoramus's always say soemthing negatively shallow and without intelligence wont get dem further to the truth so dont let these fools get you down you better then that.

WTF
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Reply #10 posted 04/09/09 9:22am

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Reflection said:

Mysterioso said:

Oh no. Not this. disbelief Can't we all just get along? Just agree to disagree?


doh!


Wutchoo doh!-in' for? neutral

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Reply #11 posted 04/09/09 9:22am

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[Just a note, as long as this stays on topic with relevant discussion and remains free from attacks, I’m happy to leave this open. - CarrieMpls]

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Reply #12 posted 04/09/09 9:25am

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This is your favorite thing to do, 'taint it, CMP? lol


[I really don't want to close this topic (Okay, so I'm lying), but if I have to, I will. - CarrieMpls]

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Reply #13 posted 04/09/09 9:28am

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Mysterioso said:

This is your favorite thing to do, 'taint it, CMP? lol


[I really don't want to close this topic (Okay, so I'm lying), but if I have to, I will. - CarrieMpls]



lol It's actually my least favorite thing to do. I'd rather not have to take any moderation action ever. I'm lazy like that. lol

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Reply #14 posted 04/09/09 9:30am

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[snip - Mysterioso]
[Edited 4/9/09 9:30am]

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Reply #15 posted 04/09/09 9:46am

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Giovanni777 said:

PanthaGirl said:



Okay so I post a thread and would like a discussion on intelligent issues for a change and this is your reaction.

rolleyes


Hey there. Brava 4 boldly bringing up a serious issue with this site, and the online culture in general. Of course, U know that doing this here, in "General Discussion", a.k.a "Land O' Cliques", means it will get torched.

Your last paragraph is quite true, and an important point, so again, BRAVA!

2 add 2 what U said, I've found that all people will react 2 a challenging situation in only 3 ways...

Run Away
Confront
Accept


Thank you. I do agree with you those 3 reactions seem to dominate a challenging situation and in saying that, confronting defensive peeps (as frustrating as it can be) is a sure way of knowing ones mind as their response pretty much sums up that person's intelligence (or lack of) in a nutshell.

In turn I prefer to try and extend some grace.

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Reply #16 posted 04/09/09 9:47am

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Sounds like an interlude on Janet's Rhythm Nation 1814. nod

"I'm a lover, not a haitcher"- Pandurito

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Reply #17 posted 04/09/09 9:52am

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I'd hate to say it, but that's borderline ostentatious. Don't get me wrong, PG. I get where you're coming from, but this is kind of bullheaded, here. You have to understand where the non-aforementioned (*Clears Throat*) deictic of this particular thread. I respect this individual as well as you. Let's not be coy or disingenuous with the the transmittance of this message. Convey a rational message for both sides to fairly converge on. It's kind of farsighted and cliquish in itself. I'm just saying.....she's got a point, as do you. But devise a treatise that is diplomatic; not mono-partisan.
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Reply #18 posted 04/09/09 10:02am

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It boils down 2 respect and certain racial undertones either perceived or otherwise. It's there, some choose 2 ignore it and some don't.

The TRUTH.......only exist in 1 form.
The TRUTH.
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Reply #19 posted 04/09/09 10:02am

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rocknrolldave said:

PanthaGirl said:

In light of recent events here and seeing as the powers that be can change the course of any thread as it suits them, I'd like to know of peeps opinions in regards to the abovementioned and what may be the causes to such unbecoming behaviour.

I've noticed more often then not, online and in real life, that peeps seem to find the easy way out of a situation by pointing their boney fingers and blaming others and turning ones opinion into personal attacks. These same peeps in turn, blame others, and thus give up their power to change.

Is ignorance bliss? I think not in any form. The lower the IQ, the lower the desire to learn. The higher the IQ, the more you want to learn. As IQ rises, so does the percentage of the population that question beyond the traps set out. Smarter peeps do question more and aren't afraid to admit to their errors. Peeps with a degree of high knowledge that is achieved and is true (elite knowledge) seem to be happier because they know and are well informed about human virtue and nature.



Discuss...nod


The greatest ignorance is to reject something you know absolutely nothing about.



First off, your thread title sounds like the name of a Napalm Death album, but I digress...



I won't get involved in a debate about mods, as I don't come here very often and have no contact with mods or any reason to complain either about them or to them, so I will leave that to people that do.
However, as far as ignorance is concerned, how can it ever be a good thing?
I think the word is used very often to mean something more generalised than actual ignorance, more like just general rudeness, but ignorance is a good word for that. If you are open-minded and accept that other people have differing views and come from different mind-sets (often for a reason) then how can you not be tolerant to their views and their ways, so long as they don't hurt you or those around you?


Thanks I'll take the title as a compliment, I like to add style to my threads wink

As for the mods, this thread isn't about them in the least, it is as the title states.

Tolerating such behaviour isn't a problem for me but this thread is furthermore about these ignorant beings that do indeed set a personal attack upon others with the intention of hurting them. Why? Perhaps because they cannot seem to accept the differing views of others around them. In my line of study with behavioural sciences I discovered that these same beings did have low IQ's and were more often then not, sociopaths. Being critical, defensive in their ignorance lets them change the conversation away from their own inadequacies and instinctively set up conversations to protect themselves. To be redemptive, a leader must discern, describe, and invite the person into change. A simple golden rule I follow is to never confront power with power, but confront power with the brutal truth.

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Reply #20 posted 04/09/09 10:06am

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Yeah, and a "leader" probably refrains from referring to a woman as "gross" solely based on her body type. wink

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Reply #21 posted 04/09/09 10:08am

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lol

man, i just love this place. touched

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Reply #22 posted 04/09/09 10:11am

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Reflection said:

PanthaGirl said:

In light of recent events here and seeing as the powers that be can change the course of any thread as it suits them, I'd like to know of peeps opinions in regards to the abovementioned and what may be the causes to such unbecoming behaviour.

I've noticed more often then not, online and in real life, that peeps seem to find the easy way out of a situation by pointing their boney fingers and blaming others and turning ones opinion into personal attacks. These same peeps in turn, blame others, and thus give up their power to change.

Is ignorance bliss? I think not in any form. The lower the IQ, the lower the desire to learn. The higher the IQ, the more you want to learn. As IQ rises, so does the percentage of the population that question beyond the traps set out. Smarter peeps do question more and aren't afraid to admit to their errors. Peeps with a degree of high knowledge that is achieved and is true (elite knowledge) seem to be happier because they know and are well informed about human virtue and nature.



Discuss...nod


The greatest ignorance is to reject something you know absolutely nothing about.



tis as you say the ignoramus's always say soemthing negatively shallow and without intelligence wont get dem further to the truth so dont let these fools get you down you better then that.


Thanks Stefa ur a gem babe and only know too well about this ignorant foolishness.

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Reply #23 posted 04/09/09 10:13am

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SCNDLS said:

Yeah, and a "leader" probably refrains from referring to a woman as "gross" solely based on her body type. wink


If you don't have anything intelligent to offer then I suggest you go back to your booty thread and post more 'gross' pics.

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Reply #24 posted 04/09/09 10:15am

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I think pestilence went out with the bible.

I told you I was trouble
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Reply #25 posted 04/09/09 10:18am

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starkitty said:

I think pestilence went out with the bible.


Pestilence has nothing to do with the bible. Im using it here in terms of peeps being considered as destructive, evil or harmful.

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Reply #26 posted 04/09/09 10:18am

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PanthaGirl said:

SCNDLS said:

Yeah, and a "leader" probably refrains from referring to a woman as "gross" solely based on her body type. wink


If you don't have anything intelligent to offer then I suggest you go back to your booty thread and post more 'gross' pics.

rolleyes So what about what I said is "unintelligent?" You think it's perfectly fine to seriously degrade a woman because of her body type, calling her "gross" with a complete disregard and insensitivity to those on the Org who resemble her in some ways but in the next breath you're claiming to be a "leader" and possessing some kind of superior knowledge? Then got the nerve and gall, to mention shallowness in your thread title??? hah! Okay, whatevs . . .
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Reply #27 posted 04/09/09 10:20am

CarrieLee

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PanthaGirl said:



If you don't have anything intelligent to offer then I suggest you go back to your booty thread and post more 'gross' pics.

rolleyes So what about what I said is "unintelligent?" You think it's perfectly fine to seriously degrade a woman because of her body type, calling her "gross" with a complete disregard and insensitivity to those on the Org who resemble her in some ways but in the next breath you're claiming to be a "leader" and possessing some kind of superior knowledge? Okay, whatevs . . .



popcorn

PS: Isn't Pestilence a death metal band?


lol

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Reply #28 posted 04/09/09 10:21am

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PanthaGirl said:

SCNDLS said:

Yeah, and a "leader" probably refrains from referring to a woman as "gross" solely based on her body type. wink


If you don't have anything intelligent to offer then I suggest you go back to your booty thread and post more 'gross' pics.


hmmm

"I've noticed more often then not, online and in real life, that peeps seem to find the easy way out of a situation by pointing their boney fingers and blaming others and turning ones opinion into personal attacks. These same peeps in turn, blame others, and thus give up their power to change."

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Reply #29 posted 04/09/09 10:21am

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CarrieLee said:

SCNDLS said:


rolleyes So what about what I said is "unintelligent?" You think it's perfectly fine to seriously degrade a woman because of her body type, calling her "gross" with a complete disregard and insensitivity to those on the Org who resemble her in some ways but in the next breath you're claiming to be a "leader" and possessing some kind of superior knowledge? Okay, whatevs . . .



popcorn

PS: Isn't Pestilence a death metal band?


lol

lol No, that's Abhorrence. rolleyes

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