NDRU said:

JasmineFire said:

JasmineFire said:

looks better to you, not to me! I like Serena, too, I just don't like her body. But she's healthy, she's a champion, she can look however she wants.

and I think you mean runway models are not always pretty, and I agree, but supermodels are generally "super" because they outshine the clothes they're wearing, like Heidi, Naomi, Tyra, Cindy.

NDRU said:

My thoughts exactly. When I first saw her on American Idol, I thought that she was incredibly beautiful in a girl-next-door type of way, but since she has blown up in the country music world, her handlers have been really trying to glam her up. It's almost to the point of looking too Hollywood for her tastes or her audience.

rolling said:

It's really sad to see her now compared to what she once was:



MuthaFunka said:

As for Kate Moss, I don't see her as strikingly beautiful. She looks like someone who is a plain Jane in person but tends to photograph really well. I got a little dose of reality of the power of good photography a few years ago when I attended Glamourcon, which is like a convention for Playboy Playmates and Penthouse Pets. While there were a few ladies that were absolutely, stunningly beautiful, most of the ladies, while very attractive, weren't really much different than some hot chick at the bar or club, and a few others whose photos made me want to jack off in the privacy of my home looked really plain in person. Overall, though, they were really nice.

NDRU said:

I thought that Kate was considered the last of the supermodels? At least she was the last one who anyone made a huge deal about and her look is not traditionally beautiful. She looks very small, slightly unhealthy, and she's a breath away from being ugly but there is something about her look that is very compelling. Make no mistake, Kate Moss is an excellent model and is very interesting to look at, just not traditionally beautiful.

Besides Heidi, the other models you named are all a bit "off" looking. They're stunning, yes but not traditionally beautiful the way that many screen actresses and print models seem to be. Tyra talks about it quite a bit on ANTM (i know...i know... ) and I've also heard other people talk about it, too.

Frankly, I've seen more traditionally beautiful women at bridal shows than on high fashion runways. Supermodels are more likely to have a beauty that people "dont' get", imo.

JasmineFire said:

yeah I think models are sometimes picked for having an interesting look (and 6'0 100lb frame) more than pure beauty. You see odd looking women on the runway or in Vogue. And I agree sometimes unknowns or even the girl in the next office is prettier than a runway model.

It's hard for me to say, I love a lot of womens' looks. Naomi is one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen. But I know people who think Cindy Crawford is boring looking. To me she's not boring, she's flawless.

I guess some women like Kate Moss, Claudia Schiffer, Uma have odd looks, but in the right angle it's really attractive to me.

oh I could go on about this subject forever...

NDRU said:

Me, too! I love talking about beauty!

I think that one of the reasons why people find Cindy Crawford boring looking is because she's so flawless. She's also always came across as being very large even though I know she's quite thin. Naomi is stunning but maybe because of all I've heard about her behaviors, I don't really find her beautiful, if that makes any sense.

She is stunning and rather untraditional looking.

I'm ashamed to say that I don't really remember what Claudia Schiffer even looks like.

CalhounSq said:

Cameron Diaz, I thought she was hot in the Mask (an unknown then) then she went down hill. Playing stupid also didn't help.

kpowers said:

she was very pretty in The Mask but after that she lost a bunch of weight and started to look not so good.

roodboi said:

The window swinging!

JasmineFire said:

Yeah Naomi seems like a real handful, but when I see her speak she doesn't seem crazy or particularly stupid. And the accent, everything, so hot! Not like when some models speak and it kills the mystery.

NDRU said:

naomi is not crazy or stupid, just very very angry and egotistical.

Anxiety said:

@ Zac Doody.....or is it Howdy Efron?

JasmineFire said:

It's the only time I can think of where she played the anonymous bimbo. And yeah she looked great then.

I think heidi klum is nothing special at all - certainly not beautiful to me.

Other than great boobs, she's total blah.

JustErin said:

I think her smile is very cute. But I can understand your feeling. Sometimes I don't really see it. She's got one of those boring/flawless looks.

rolling said:

I wasn't aware anyone thought she was hot. Talented, yes. Hot? That's news to me.

NDRU said:

Scrunchy eyes, thin lips, funny nose.

Same old things that I always find unattractive.

NDRU said:

And that's a huge difference.

JustErin said:

She could eat crackers in my bed

JustErin said:

IMO she's beautiful for sure, but has nothing special about her .

I don't get Brad Pitt or Colin Farrell. Eva Longoria baffles the fuck out of me, so do Paris Hilton and Justin Timberlake.

meow85 said:

I used to not like Eva Longoria, but she's gotten very sexy to me.

NDRU said:

and then Seal would cry and write a song about it.

JasmineFire said:

NDRU said:

That bronzer/tan/whatever it is makes her look older than she really is.

When will white women learn that tans are not flattering, no matter what Cosmo says to the contrary?

NDRU said:

Something about her mouth/nose area doesn't look quite right.

meow85 said:

I know exactly what you mean. And her voice is weird.

NDRU said:

She makes me think more of a cartoon than a real person.

NDRU said:

Serena is all woman in all the right places to me. That is the most beautiful body in the whole world! Venus has perfect legs, but everything on Serena is perfect.