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Thread started 01/13/04 8:05am

Marrk

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Who do you think was the last truly groundbreaking artist?

It's been awhile.Everything's so formulaic now. Has there even been one this Millenium?sigh

i want somebody to make me sit up and take notice and go "Damn! that's good, and different too" music
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Reply #1 posted 01/13/04 8:07am

Cloudbuster

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Madonna. wink
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Reply #2 posted 01/13/04 8:21am

Dauphin

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Nirvana/Soundgarden
Prince
Garth Brooks
Tupac (yes, really)
Beck (yes, really)
No Doubt (yes, really)
Elton John (yes, really)


Just a few...
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Reply #3 posted 01/13/04 8:27am

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Cloudbuster said:

Madonna. wink


You definately needed to put that wink there! lol
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Reply #4 posted 01/13/04 8:29am

Sdldawn

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Nirvana/Soundgarden
Prince
Garth Brooks
Tupac (yes, really)
Beck (yes, really)
No Doubt (yes, really)
Elton John (yes, really)


Just a few...



Beck, that was a nice point out.. he is groundbreaking.
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Reply #5 posted 01/13/04 8:29am

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Dauphin said:

Nirvana/Soundgarden
Prince
Garth Brooks
Tupac (yes, really)
Beck (yes, really)
No Doubt (yes, really)
Elton John (yes, really)


Just a few...


Garth Brooks?




































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Reply #6 posted 01/13/04 8:30am

Marrk

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Sdldawn said:

Dauphin said:

Nirvana/Soundgarden
Prince
Garth Brooks
Tupac (yes, really)
Beck (yes, really)
No Doubt (yes, really)
Elton John (yes, really)


Just a few...



Beck, that was a nice point out.. he is groundbreaking.


Beck's cool.
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Reply #7 posted 01/13/04 8:31am

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Marrk said:

Cloudbuster said:

Madonna. wink


You definately needed to put that wink there! lol


wink
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Reply #8 posted 01/13/04 8:34am

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Eminem then...


Andre 3000

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Reply #9 posted 01/13/04 9:45am

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trent reznor
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Reply #10 posted 01/13/04 9:53am

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Groundbreaking in what sense? Musically? Stylewise? Do these artists have to be POPULAR to be classified as groundbreaking?

Musically, the LAST I discovered was Ra. They do this "Egyptian Rock" thing that in my opinion is different from what other American artists have done. (Keyboard sitars and finger cymbals don't count in my book)

I guess lately Outkast have to be called groundbreaking for their departure from "standard" rap/hip-hop.

"Groundbreaking" is a very loose term unless its specifically defined.

I don't think something "good" has to be different. I have heard artists that were different, but not good. I'll take GOOD every time over different
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Reply #11 posted 01/13/04 10:44am

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[b][color=blue:58b94eb679]Groundbreaking in what sense? Musically? Stylewise? Do these artists have to be POPULAR to be classified as groundbreaking?


I'd answer those questions as yes, yes, and obviously no.

It's hard for me to say because I am not a particularly well-rounded authority on music, and most of the stuff I've found truly creative recently is old jazz.

However, a few artists have released groundbreaking work. Beck is one. Me'shell I believe is another.

There have been some artists who have put out some good stuff recently. I can hardly tell the difference in rock anymore, because everyone sounds like a Nirvana/Pearl Jam clone to me. We're in a new era of arena schlock rock, with some exceptions.

On the jazz/Nu Jazz tip, Roy Hargrove, Jazzanova, and Zero 7 are a few artists/acts that come to mind.

But I also think that Digable Planets' "Blowout Comb" is a groundbreaking masterpiece that has yet to be matched by any hip-hop artist since.
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Reply #12 posted 01/13/04 11:22am

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I can only use my definition of groundbreaking and that's someone that comes with a new style (or new mixture of styles) that others follow. With that said the last one I can think of is Teddy Riley in the late 80's. If more rappers move away from basic rappin and hip hop by the numbers, you might be able to put Andre 3000 on the list. We'll have to wait another couple of years to find out.
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Reply #13 posted 01/13/04 11:31am

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Yep. He took Country, fused it with Pop/Rock and made it the super commercial beast it is today. Plus his shows were VERY good, akin to the Lovesexy tour that Prince took overseas.

It was never that cool to listen to Country outside of the Bible Belt until Garth came around.



Marrk said:

Dauphin said:

Nirvana/Soundgarden
Prince
Garth Brooks
Tupac (yes, really)
Beck (yes, really)
No Doubt (yes, really)
Elton John (yes, really)


Just a few...


Garth Brooks?

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Reply #14 posted 01/13/04 11:36am

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BlaqueKnight said:

[color=blue:58b94eb679:3afee1f65c]Groundbreaking in what sense? Musically? Stylewise? Do these artists have to be POPULAR to be classified as groundbreaking?

Musically, the LAST I discovered was Ra. They do this "Egyptian Rock" thing that in my opinion is different from what other American artists have done. (Keyboard sitars and finger cymbals don't count in my book)

I guess lately Outkast have to be called groundbreaking for their departure from "standard" rap/hip-hop.

"Groundbreaking" is a very loose term unless its specifically defined.

I don't think something "good" has to be different. I have heard artists that were different, but not good. I'll take GOOD every time over different


I agree. Good is good. With that said, I think that the Flaming Lips' 'Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots' was very good. thumbs up!
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Reply #15 posted 01/13/04 11:40am

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Bjork, no question. Beck is cool too, but go buy Inside Bjork, the dvd for $10 and you'll see.
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Reply #16 posted 01/13/04 11:45am

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Bjork, no question. Beck is cool too, but go buy Inside Bjork, the dvd for $10 and you'll see.


IT'S ONLY $10??? Oh, that's awesome.
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Reply #17 posted 01/13/04 11:58am

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Bjork, no question. Beck is cool too, but go buy Inside Bjork, the dvd for $10 and you'll see.


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Reply #18 posted 01/13/04 12:21pm

OdysseyMiles

Queens Of The Stone Age 'Songs For The Deaf'
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OdysseyMiles said:

VinaBlue said:

Bjork, no question. Beck is cool too, but go buy Inside Bjork, the dvd for $10 and you'll see.


IT'S ONLY $10??? Oh, that's awesome.


See what I mean? That is groundbreaking as well!
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Reply #20 posted 01/13/04 12:49pm

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I would say Missy Elliott when she first came on the scene. Her and Timbaland's beats were so different from everyone else's and then when she came on the scene with her debut album. It was definitely groundbreaking music...although I can't say the same for her now.
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Reply #21 posted 01/13/04 1:06pm

JAMIESTARR

Jeff Buckley,the talent and possibilities were endless
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"Currently"---Outkast!
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Reply #23 posted 01/13/04 1:25pm

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Jeff Buckley,the talent and possibilities were endless


I agree, with one more official album by him, it would have been more self evident to the world.. he was an amazing talent that had so much going for him.. and an inspiration guitar player, he was hitting notes people dont normally hit.. he was the truely inspirational artist of the 90's.. soulful, and his songs had meaning..
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Sdldawn said:

JAMIESTARR said:

Jeff Buckley,the talent and possibilities were endless


I agree, with one more official album by him, it would have been more self evident to the world.. he was an amazing talent that had so much going for him.. and an inspiration guitar player, he was hitting notes people dont normally hit.. he was the truely inspirational artist of the 90's.. soulful, and his songs had meaning..


Co-sign to the both of you. The world had lost a genius that was Jeff Buckley.

Then there is Beck, and Outkast, Eminem(you may not like his controversy, but what about his lyrical skills?), Madonna, Red Hot Chili Peppers(even if they lost the funk), and The Dismemberment Plan.
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Sdldawn said:

JAMIESTARR said:

Jeff Buckley,the talent and possibilities were endless


I agree, with one more official album by him, it would have been more self evident to the world.. he was an amazing talent that had so much going for him.. and an inspiration guitar player, he was hitting notes people dont normally hit.. he was the truely inspirational artist of the 90's.. soulful, and his songs had meaning..


Co-sign to the both of you. The world had lost a genius that was Jeff Buckley.

Then there is Beck, and Outkast, Eminem(you may not like his controversy, but what about his lyrical skills?), Madonna, Red Hot Chili Peppers(even if they lost the funk), and The Dismemberment Plan.


Exactly, but I'd add Thome Yorke in my list.

poor jeff, he was a lovely artist
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Reply #27 posted 01/13/04 5:31pm

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Space for sale...
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Reply #28 posted 01/13/04 5:41pm

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What in the HELL is "groundbreaking" about Eminem? Not a DAMN thing. Oh...wait...he's a rapper...and he's...WHITE! WOW! Oh my GOD! AMAZING! rolleyes Vanilla Ice, Snow, the Beastie Boys and 3rd Bass NEVER did that!
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Reply #29 posted 01/13/04 6:51pm

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Absolutely Bjork ~ and Sigur Ros for some very etheral, beautiful and innovative sounds
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