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Reply #60 posted 01/14/04 2:10pm

cborgman

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SpcMs said:

cborgman said:

SpcMs said:

Daft Punk. I agree they were not pioneers, but with their Homework, they made popular a sound that continues, and increasingly so, to influence today's music. I think they get waay to little credit.


one of their videos was on this morning when i left the house.

Woo - hoo!!! yay!



(i guess...confuse)

But do u agree?

smile



totally...
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Reply #61 posted 01/14/04 2:35pm

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Acutally, they don't have bass. He just tunes his guitar way down to mimic the bass sound. You should see them live, it's a great show.

They are "groundbreaking" in the sense that they combine originality with talent... and their cd was the best release of 2003. Versatility is also a trademark of great music and they have alot of that.


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Reply #62 posted 01/14/04 2:42pm

SpcMs

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cborgman said:

SpcMs said:

cborgman said:

SpcMs said:

Daft Punk. I agree they were not pioneers, but with their Homework, they made popular a sound that continues, and increasingly so, to influence today's music. I think they get waay to little credit.


one of their videos was on this morning when i left the house.

Woo - hoo!!! yay!



(i guess...confuse)

But do u agree?

smile



totally...


chair
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Reply #63 posted 01/14/04 2:46pm

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MrWhatever said:

garnis said:

BlaqueKnight said:

MrWhatever said:

The White Stipes.

If their next album suprasses "Elephant", I'm going to start comparing them to Nirvana.



You know what? I have to agree. They are an example of "groundbreaking". Just drums and a guitar and a lead vocal. They are also the perfect example of different not being GOOD. They suck, but they are in a sense, groundbreaking.

Their recordings have bass in em. Don't be fooled cuz you don't see a third person in press photos and videos etc. I wouldn't say they suck, but they are far from groundbreaking. Just a few bands that paved the way for those jokers. MC5, Stooges,


Acutally, they don't have bass. He just tunes his guitar way down to mimic the bass sound. You should see them live, it's a great show.

They are "groundbreaking" in the sense that they combine originality with talent... and their cd was the best release of 2003. Versatility is also a trademark of great music and they have alot of that.



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Reply #64 posted 01/14/04 2:52pm

cborgman

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SpcMs said:

cborgman said:

SpcMs said:

cborgman said:

SpcMs said:

Daft Punk. I agree they were not pioneers, but with their Homework, they made popular a sound that continues, and increasingly so, to influence today's music. I think they get waay to little credit.


one of their videos was on this morning when i left the house.

Woo - hoo!!! yay!



(i guess...confuse)

But do u agree?

smile



totally...


chair


eek i agreed!
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Reply #65 posted 01/14/04 2:56pm

SpcMs

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cborgman said:

SpcMs said:

cborgman said:

SpcMs said:

cborgman said:

SpcMs said:

Daft Punk. I agree they were not pioneers, but with their Homework, they made popular a sound that continues, and increasingly so, to influence today's music. I think they get waay to little credit.


one of their videos was on this morning when i left the house.

Woo - hoo!!! yay!



(i guess...confuse)

But do u agree?

smile



totally...


chair


eek i agreed!

Somehow i sniffed a hinch of irony in those three dots, but even if i was wrong, a good beating now and then doesn't hurt :d
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Reply #66 posted 01/14/04 3:38pm

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There are HELLA rappers with better flow than Em.


I respect Em's flow, but to me, Common, Talib, Mos and Jay alone flow better than Em. Ghostface would likely leave Em in the dust. Rakim and KRS could roll out of bed and outflow Em. That's not to disparage Em's considerable talent, that's to illustrate how dope these MCs are. They all preceded Em, and actually broke the ground he walks today. So I have to agree, Em is not a groundbreaker.

Em's lyrics are only fascinating to the pop crowd. Chuck D's lyrics KILL Em on intelligence and subject matter alone. Em just whines and bitches about his family and makes fun of people. He HAS NO SUBSTANCE. I'll give him props for "Stan", but that's about it.


He went from being funny to self-aware, he appeals to suburban teenage angst. and now simply sells records. His message is sounding like a broken record.

Tell ya what; go...learn of some REAL hip hop artists, then start a thread and have this conversation. If Eminem was the best hip hop had to offer, I'd stop listening to it.


The late 80's-early 90's is a veritable gold mine for finding talented hip-hop MCs.

Rage is cool. Those guys get props for lyrics, but they didn't START the hip hop/rock thing, they just popularized it on the underground scene.


That's true, tho I personally am not impressed by what little I have heard from them.

Run-DMC and a host of other acts, from the Beastie Boys to the Gravediggaz, have employed the rock/rap sound way before Rage got put on. I'd call Rick Rubin (IMHO, one of the more unsung producers in hip-hop history) the groundbreaker before Rage.
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Reply #67 posted 01/14/04 3:40pm

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MrWhatever said:

garnis said:

BlaqueKnight said:

MrWhatever said:

The White Stipes.

If their next album suprasses "Elephant", I'm going to start comparing them to Nirvana.



[color=blue:2d3ecaf222:1f7e63a303:419e231755:26df3b5ebb]You know what? I have to agree. They are an example of "groundbreaking". Just drums and a guitar and a lead vocal. They are also the perfect example of different not being GOOD. They suck, but they are in a sense, groundbreaking.

Their recordings have bass in em. Don't be fooled cuz you don't see a third person in press photos and videos etc. I wouldn't say they suck, but they are far from groundbreaking. Just a few bands that paved the way for those jokers. MC5, Stooges,


Acutally, they don't have bass. He just tunes his guitar way down to mimic the bass sound. You should see them live, it's a great show.

They are "groundbreaking" in the sense that they combine originality with talent... and their cd was the best release of 2003. Versatility is also a trademark of great music and they have alot of that.

Are you sure about the tuning down of the guitars? I can see maybe running them through some kind of processor to pitch shift or something. I admit I haven't heard THAT much of their stuff, but what I heard was pretty low frequencies. They are a breath of fresh air for todays music standards
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Reply #68 posted 01/14/04 5:35pm

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D'ANGELO (in the sense that he sort of kicked off the 'neo soul' era of the mid-late '90s)


Agreed, but D and Maxwell have this thing about consistancy.. they dont follow that.. their here about every 5 years or so.. just enough for people to forget what and who the heck they are.[/quote]
I'm scared D may have lost it.Didn't I read that he dissed The Roots,Ahmir,and has been wallowing in alcohol and self-abuse?I don't think he'll be around that long.
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Reply #69 posted 01/14/04 10:10pm

cborgman

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SpcMs said:

cborgman said:

SpcMs said:

cborgman said:

SpcMs said:

cborgman said:

SpcMs said:

Daft Punk. I agree they were not pioneers, but with their Homework, they made popular a sound that continues, and increasingly so, to influence today's music. I think they get waay to little credit.


one of their videos was on this morning when i left the house.

Woo - hoo!!! yay!



(i guess...confuse)

But do u agree?

smile



totally...


chair


eek i agreed!

Somehow i sniffed a hinch of irony in those three dots, but even if i was wrong, a good beating now and then doesn't hurt :d


lol

well in that case, chair me again, cause i know you are a big MJ fan, and i... think he's scary boxed
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