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Reply #390 posted 07/04/13 1:50pm

mookie

Just so many contradictions. One minute MJ is this raving drug addict and then the next minute he's not. It's like some didn't get the memo as to what was supposed to be said. LOL

Michael Jackson was not abusing pain medication in years leading up to comeback tour deal with AEG Live, says doctor

Dr. Sidney Schnoll based his opinion on medical records stating the King of Pop only needed 100 milligrams of the narcotic pain medication Demerol to knock him out for a dermatology procedure in late 2008.

Michael Jackson apparently was clean and not abusing pain medication in the years leading up to his comeback tour deal with concert promoter AEG Live, a Connecticut doctor testified Wednesday.
Dr. Sidney Schnoll based his opinion on medical records stating the King of Pop only needed 100 milligrams of the narcotic pain medication Demerol to knock him out for a dermatology procedure in late 2008.

Schnoll said Jackson would have built up too much tolerance for that dose to work if he frequently abused opioids during the era of his 2005 molestation trial and subsequent travels abroad. “He would have to take a much higher dose of Demerol to get the (necessary) effect for the surgery," Schnoll told jurors. The New Jersey-born doctor was acting as a paid expert witness for Jackson’s mother, Katherine.

Katherine Jackson, 83, is suing AEG Live for wrongful death, claiming the concert promoter negligently hired Dr. Conrad Murray as tour physician and set the stage for her son’s fatal 2009 overdose on the surgery-strength anesthetic propofol. AEG vehemently denies any wrongdoing, saying Jackson personally hired Murray and begged for secret, bedroom-based infusions of the intravenous drug he called “milk.”

During his testimony, Schnoll said he didn’t believe Michael was an addict who craved and used drugs recreationally. Rather he was a patient who developed an opioid dependence because of legitimate pain related to his burned scalp. He said plenty of celebrities have suffered opioid dependence, including President John F. Kennedy, who had debilitating back pain. Schnoll said Jackson even got a Narcan implant in his abdomen in 2003 that steadily released Naltrexone, a drug that blocks the euphoric effects of opioids.

http://www.nydailynews.co...z2Y2fz9mDz

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Reply #391 posted 07/04/13 2:35pm

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Good save Mike lol










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Reply #392 posted 07/05/13 10:38am

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Story from the archives ~ Michael backstage with Oakridge Boys William Lee Golden and brother Jackie. When The Oakridge Boys, a Gospel Group, met the Jackson’s several photos were taken and when the pics were posted on a Gospel webpage many questioned the look on Michaels face. Here Rusty Golden [William Lee Golden’s son] tell us why the look on Michaels face!! ~ I mean c’mon man…NAPKINS????”

"Seconds before the camera flash went off, a Jackson’s aide rushed up to MJ and handed him a Sharpie pen and about 25 or so cocktail sized napkins into his “GLOVE” and then said “Hey Mikey….the promoter wants you to sign these”. I well remember the aide getting out of the way of the shot but MJ is looking straight at him and no….not too happy! More mad than sad. After the flashes of about 10 cameras went off, Michael just sorta’ said to anyone who could hear…”Don’t we have any regular pictures to sign? I mean c’mon man…NAPKINS????”

Hahahahahahaha!!!!!! That’s the TRUE STORY of the look on his face in that picture. Up until then he was a very quiet yet pleasant superstar who was happy to talk about Gospel Music. This picture was taken on 7/31/81"

~ Rusty Golden

via UK Loves MJ

http://rhapsodyincolour.t...e-archives

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Reply #393 posted 07/06/13 11:06pm

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Wow this is super rare! I've never seen this before, pretty cool!


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Reply #394 posted 07/06/13 11:08pm

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HOTT!

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Reply #395 posted 07/06/13 11:10pm

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Reply #396 posted 07/07/13 1:33pm

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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #397 posted 07/07/13 4:53pm

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HOTT!

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Reply #398 posted 07/07/13 5:39pm

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More nice pics courtesy of the Rhapsodyincolour blog smile










From the Barry Schultz photoshoot

http://rhapsodyincolour.t...oshoot-for

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Reply #399 posted 07/07/13 5:43pm

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PHOTO~ In 1988 before Michael’s Bad concert in Rome, Garry Taylor, the Suzuki Racing Team Manager, on hearing that Michael was a motorcycle fan flew a Suzuki RG500 over to Italy where it was presented to Michael as a gift. The bike was in the colours of the Suzuki racing team who were sponsored by Pepsi.

via UK Loves MJ

Michael and his remote controlled motorcycles ! A funny story from Sam L Parity, which happened during the recording of the Dangerous Album. ~


"Michael had some $900 remote-controlled motorcycles delivered to the studio one day. He asked me to come out to the parking lot to try them out, and when we were messing around with them, he drove his motorcycle out of the lot and into the alley, when a car came by and ran it over! He thought that was really funny. I couldn’t believe that he could laugh so much at losing a thousand-dollar toy. ~ Sam L Parity



http://rhapsodyincolour.tumblr.com/post/54841488664/myinspirationmj-michael-and-his-remote

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Reply #400 posted 07/08/13 12:35pm

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I do not know how to react to all the news of the last 2 months ...... confused
for the first time since I became a fan my belief in the innocence of MJ is not absolute anymore.
although it is obvious that someone (AEG, probably) stimulates the emergence of all this information, its accuracy is questionable.

Simply awful it all ... cry

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Reply #401 posted 07/08/13 4:47pm

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LiLi1992 said:

I do not know how to react to all the news of the last 2 months ...... confused
for the first time since I became a fan my belief in the innocence of MJ is not absolute anymore.
although it is obvious that someone (AEG, probably) stimulates the emergence of all this information, its accuracy is questionable.

Simply awful it all ... cry

this is what happens when you acqueisce and move beyond your natural being

you put yourself in position for the world to interpret what you did while you existed...everything is up for debate now....

AEG will pull out all stops to protect itself, for really, they tried with every means they could to revive this man's career.......they paid him 12-15 million bucks just to show up and make the announcment he was performing this tour which never should have been scheduled...they put him up in that house he was living for free......

all Michael Jackson had to do when he reached the pinnacle of his career was remain himself and his career would not have curtailed the way it did, his livelihood would not have been tapped out, and his name would not have been sullied the way it has and the way it will continue to throughout this trial........

it's not even about AEG...it's about the false image he began to project back in 1987, and everything associate with that false unfortunately will be spoken of.......

and when all of this is over...when it's all done, we're going to realize there was never any haters, there was no enemy, for the real enemy was the false image, the lies itself......

for he realized his potential.....that's never been the question, but he was never allowed to realize his promise in life and that's the greatest tragedy out of all of this........

for the world beyond the realm of authenticity denied him that right.....and now all we have left is what could have beens and should have beens....

the world would not allow him to be black, or to embrace it....AND HE KNEW IT

that's what this is aaaaaaaaaaaallll about

GONE TOO SOON

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Reply #402 posted 07/08/13 9:47pm

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1) I'm not sure that he was really interested in his career after 90's, he was practically retired. this is not a situation that he released albums and singles, toured, but these were not in demand. any of his tiny activity (just went to the store) immediately stimulated the demand for his albums, they immediately appear in the charts.
2) everywhere outside of North America, he was in the 90's as successful and popular as it was in the 80s.
3) my doubts have nothing to do with his appearance, he looked this way when I was born (a little better, of course, but pale and androgynous), I used to perceive him like that, so I was much more difficult to get used to his natural shape.

All this pressure from all sides ..... since I became interested in him only in 2010, I have not found a special hatred for him from people.... it was 90% of the comments: "genius", "talent", "king", and 10% of the comments like "pedophile" and "child molester "... Now the situation has changed.

I do not know how his fans experienced in 2005, it's just amazing loyalty. I know that my love is not strong enough for that ....

Why Katherine ventured this court? she did not realize that her son is a very controversial figure and her procedural opponents will do anything to back the public against him?

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Reply #403 posted 07/09/13 5:02am

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LiLi1992 said:

1) I'm not sure that he was really interested in his career after 90's, he was practically retired. this is not a situation that he released albums and singles, toured, but these were not in demand. any of his tiny activity (just went to the store) immediately stimulated the demand for his albums, they immediately appear in the charts.
2) everywhere outside of North America, he was in the 90's as successful and popular as it was in the 80s.
3) my doubts have nothing to do with his appearance, he looked this way when I was born (a little better, of course, but pale and androgynous), I used to perceive him like that, so I was much more difficult to get used to his natural shape.

All this pressure from all sides ..... since I became interested in him only in 2010, I have not found a special hatred for him from people.... it was 90% of the comments: "genius", "talent", "king", and 10% of the comments like "pedophile" and "child molester "... Now the situation has changed.

I do not know how his fans experienced in 2005, it's just amazing loyalty. I know that my love is not strong enough for that ....

Why Katherine ventured this court? she did not realize that her son is a very controversial figure and her procedural opponents will do anything to back the public against him?

1) I'm not sure that he was really interested in his career after 90's, he was practically retired. this is not a situation that he released albums and singles, toured, but these were not in demand. any of his tiny activity (just went to the store) immediately stimulated the demand for his albums, they immediately appear in the charts.

I'm sure he was still interested in his career, this man invested 25 years of his life establishing his career up until that point of the 90s...

the problem was he became frustrated that his career was not as successful as he grew accustomed to after reaching the very pinnacle, because he made steep miscalculations

He lost his american fanbase, and he never anticipated that, so by the end of the BAD tour in 1989, between that time and the moment of his next album Dangerous in 1991, he evolved into becoming an international star exclusively, which gave the impression he no longer needed the support of his home country as well as his original support

but by 93, we find Michael giving his first major tv interview with OPRAH WINFREY, not necessarily to clear the air as much as it was to boost record sales in America.....the homefront

so while he was performing to 100,000 overseas, he did so at the expense of knowing his american fanbase dwindled considerably......

I'm not being negative, I'm just pointing out how this stuff went down and when it happened...

3) my doubts have nothing to do with his appearance, he looked this way when I was born (a little better, of course, but pale and androgynous), I used to perceive him like that, so I was much more difficult to get used to his natural shape.

see, this is the thing, for the fans who were introduced or began following Michael during the years of Dangerous in the early 90s, while they became accustomed to the transformation, those who grew up with him and followed him from the beginning, or even those who began following him during the years of THRILLER were stunned how his appearance would transform the way it did, so therefore, for the fan who started following him in the 90s, especially the international fanbase, while they thought are was given the impression this is how he always looked, now in 2013, when they see how he REALLY looked in his natural state, the whole notion is foreign to them, and as u say, it's more difficult to get used to his natural shape......

Why Katherine ventured this court? she did not realize that her son is a very controversial figure and her procedural opponents will do anything to back the public against him?

we shouldn't blame his mother, the controversy started 26 years before she sought this particular trial......the entire problem is the image he projected to the world since 1987 was never genuine, it was based on false pretense when he never had to do it, and because of that, that entire image is what really is being dissected in trial, just as it was the 2005 trial, it's not even about the allegations as much as it is about the false image, because it was built on the principle of racial indifference which has brought a wave of hostility on all fronts.....that's what's so unfortunate...

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Reply #404 posted 07/09/13 9:52am

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For the life of me, I don't get why do some fans insist on downplaying MJ's US popularity after the 80's when he still easily sold better than those artists that had the great press behind them and all the music shows did everything in their power to still always land MJ. Never was it not an event when MJ did anything in the US, so what's the point in always donwplaying his US popularity. The way some talk, you'd think MJ became Michael Bolton or something. Up until his death, even with all the terrible media and shitty moves made by him and his team, he still was Michael motherfuckin Jackson.

I don't know, it just comes across shamelessly agenda pushing by some. You notice they aren't doing this with MJ's peers, who unlike MJ had the the media on their side and still struggled to have hit songs and have albums that sell a million unlike MJ. And it's noticeable that non fans don't dare to try to ever donwplay the popularity of icons like MCartney or the Rolling Stones, etc, so why does any MJ fan even dare try to downplay MJ's? It's like be critical, but be fair.

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Reply #405 posted 07/09/13 10:13am

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LiLi1992 said:


Why Katherine ventured this court? she did not realize that her son is a very controversial figure and her procedural opponents will do anything to back the public against him?

Haven't you noticed by now, she and the rest of the family could careless about protecting MJ's name? They bizarrely choose to play right into the stereotypcial "Black family just want money" image. It's just sad to watch. And as much as I despise AEG, I have to admit I can't wait till AEG starts putting the family's dirt out there. I'm guessing the recent report from radaronline about Katherine not going for restitution from Murray is the beginning of the "Katherine is greedy" strategy AEG plans to put on. biggrin

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Reply #406 posted 07/09/13 10:24am

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LiLi1992 said:

1) I'm not sure that he was really interested in his career after 90's, he was practically retired. this is not a situation that he released albums and singles, toured, but these were not in demand. any of his tiny activity (just went to the store) immediately stimulated the demand for his albums, they immediately appear in the charts.
2) everywhere outside of North America, he was in the 90's as successful and popular as it was in the 80s.
3) my doubts have nothing to do with his appearance, he looked this way when I was born (a little better, of course, but pale and androgynous), I used to perceive him like that, so I was much more difficult to get used to his natural shape.

All this pressure from all sides ..... since I became interested in him only in 2010, I have not found a special hatred for him from people.... it was 90% of the comments: "genius", "talent", "king", and 10% of the comments like "pedophile" and "child molester "... Now the situation has changed.

I do not know how his fans experienced in 2005, it's just amazing loyalty. I know that my love is not strong enough for that ....

Why Katherine ventured this court? she did not realize that her son is a very controversial figure and her procedural opponents will do anything to back the public against him?

I am finding it is the fans that were sitting on the fence or the more casual fans have that shifted their stance on MJ in recent months. The hard core stans continue to stan, regardless what thrown up by the media. And to be fair to many of the stans they know their stuff, the know alot more about allegations than the so called experts.

In 2005 during the trial the stans actually got many things correct, such as for some reason or another they realized Jordan Chandler would never show up to testify in court even though the likes of Diane Diamond -so called MJ expert- insisted he would. Its almost like the stans know something that the rest of the world doesn't , so that is why even though they come across as deluded most of the time, I never completely write them off.

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Reply #407 posted 07/09/13 10:32am

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mookie said:

LiLi1992 said:


Why Katherine ventured this court? she did not realize that her son is a very controversial figure and her procedural opponents will do anything to back the public against him?

Haven't you noticed by now, she and the rest of the family could careless about protecting MJ's name? They bizarrely choose to play right into the stereotypcial "Black family just want money" image. It's just sad to watch. And as much as I despise AEG, I have to admit I can't wait till AEG starts putting the family's dirt out there. I'm guessing the recent report from radaronline about Katherine not going for restitution from Murray is the beginning of the "Katherine is greedy" strategy AEG plans to put on. biggrin

This trial was so uncalled for. When AEG spoke of the trial becoming "nasty" I assumed they meant within the trial. I never expected only few days into the trial new abuse allegations would come about from Wade Robson, a stance ex-defencer of MJ, then we have all the dubious fbi files stories. I don't know whether it is all just a big coincidence or something more orchestrated is happening. I just have feeling this would not be happening if it weren't for the trial.

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Reply #408 posted 07/09/13 11:46am

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On July 18, 1997, Christine Dowling, a 31 Irish Michael Jackson admirer suffering from Morquio syndrome, is granted the wish to meet her famous hero. The opportunity arises during Jackson’s HIStory Tour concert, when the entertainer’s security people would be looking for fans to come up on stage for the song performance of “Heal The World”. “The music for “Heal the World” came on and I was wheeled onto the stage. Michael held my hand”, Dowling recounts 13 years later. “Normally, I wouldn’t feel anything in my right hand, as I had lost feeling in it a few years before, but that night I could actually feel Michael’s hand. He turned to me as we headed off of the stage. He told me that he loved me and I knew that he really meant it!” She goes on to say: “A few hours after the concert, I could feel a burning sensation up and down my right arm. The next day, I had feeling back in my right hand. I truly believe I got my feeling back from simply holding Michael’s hand. My Ma said, “With 35,000 people singing such a positive song as “Heal the World,” you were bound to get a miracle.” […] Even though I am in a wheelchair, that night I felt like I was walking on air. […] I am so blessed and thankful that my dream came true.” Following her hero’s death, Dowling organized a tree planting in his memory, as well as a Michael Jackson Memorial 7 Fun Day on August 8, 2009, with full proceeds directed to a children’s hospital she had attended in her childhood.

via The Silenced Truth….about Michael Jackson

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Reply #409 posted 07/09/13 12:13pm

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mookie said:

LiLi1992 said:


Why Katherine ventured this court? she did not realize that her son is a very controversial figure and her procedural opponents will do anything to back the public against him?

Haven't you noticed by now, she and the rest of the family could careless about protecting MJ's name? They bizarrely choose to play right into the stereotypcial "Black family just want money" image. It's just sad to watch. And as much as I despise AEG, I have to admit I can't wait till AEG starts putting the family's dirt out there. I'm guessing the recent report from radaronline about Katherine not going for restitution from Murray is the beginning of the "Katherine is greedy" strategy AEG plans to put on. biggrin

oh, I dislike his family (with rare exceptions), so I assume not from the fact that the family has to defend the good name of MJ because he is native person to them, and in theory they should love and cherish him.... more prosaic - better image of MJ - more money they can get, telling touching stories to sentimental public, selling his stuff, etc.

no paedophilic stories in 2006-2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 Why? because there was not interested in that. Now scandal after scandal .... and that at the time of the court with AEG .... apparently, whence comes the initiative.

Why is it so difficult? fans of other artists may find a discussion of sobriety, adequacy or sexual orientation, etc. of their favorite artists. Michael has it all and more.

I'm sure this is just the beginning ... there will be a lot more dirty stories.

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Reply #410 posted 07/09/13 6:38pm

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Michael Jackson and the extend of media degeneration

Posted by daniellcohen on 2013/07/08 in Michael Jackson

MJ-Stop-Filthy-PressLast year Hugh Grant and a group of celebrities launched “Hacked Off”, an organisation hoping to protect celebrities against the media.
A quick glance in the papers seems to suggest that this, and even the entire Phone Hacking Scandal and the Leveson Inquiry hasn’t made one iota of a change.

It actually seems that, after being quiet for a few months, the media is getting worse than ever before. Every paper around the world (well, certainly the English-speaking ones,) seem to be turning into their own versions of the News of the World. The Sun on Sunday was launched with the obvious idea of turning into a new News of the World 2.0. With scandals like Tulisa’s drug deal (which reminded me of the infamous NOTW Sheikh expose’s in it’s set up,) and especially it’s almost weekly revelations on Michael Jackson from various ex “employees” and “friends” whom he never met longer then one day (or one hour).

As if this wasn’t enough the Mirror Groups are also out for a piece of the action. Many of the former News of the World writers interestingly found a place at either The Mirror or The Sunday People, and continued their old MO. This was intended as both papers want to out scandal Murdoch’s paper and see their sales rise -by any means possible.

But it isn’t just the journalists that mark the change in direction. There is a new style of writing that is slowly seeping through all of the papers in the UK even the Guardian).
Did people complain about “tabloid style” writing, it seems that new writers are further lowering the bar. Journalists have begun writing articles as if they were writing Tweets. I have seen this strange style in the most serious of papers and magazines, so it has apparently become the norm. Personal comments and feelings have replaced facts.

This is new style has given a new kind of power to TV critics. Instead of writing a normal, informative criticism on a TV show, the columns have changed into hurtful, personal attacks. If a critic doesn’t like you, you are described in terms that would usually be used to describe to a serial killer (literally, as poor old Bobby Davro was compared to Fred West in 3 different Mirror group papers last week.) Recently Ben Elton was attacked in a way not seen before, but it was soon clear that this would be the new norm: Creating a TV show the critics don’t like is a crime. If the public like you, or your show and they don’t, they will continue to badmouth you in your column until they find enough support for their opinion. Once they do, they will find ways to prove “everybody” hates you. These days TV journalists think they are celebrities themselves with the power to make or break people. The same goes for showbiz journalists who insist on posing with stars and publishing that picture in the paper. They want some kind of cult following and crave celebrity for themselves. They Tweet opinions and are desperate to re-Tweet agreements. Even if they know they’re wrong, they want to be right. True investigative journalism is thin on the ground nowadays.

Newspapers have become no different from hate spewing trolls on Twitter and have gone from info to insults. This seems to be what their audiences want to read: one sentence of “news”, followed by 5 insults and jokes about the same issue or simply on the artist in question.
If they are unable to think up criticism for themselves, they make up articles using the most hateful Tweets they can find. In fact the modern journalist can make up entire articles backed by a single Tweet.

The Sunday People (which is going through a massive change in a bid to become the biggest Sunday Tabloid) even baits celebrities and their fans by Tweeting shocking and nasty remarks on its Twitter. Is this the behavior of a Paper?

This new kind of “hate” journalism has always been around, but they didn’t realize how much money they could make from it, until the rise of Michael Jackson. Was the media bad before, they became vultures after, often singling out a special target to victimize.
Many celebrities have suffered traumatic incidents with the media.

All to often celebrities that start out fun, happy and open change into shy nervous wrecks once they realize the extend to which the media will go to find out about their private lives. Massive amounts of money are spent on people who vaguely know a celebrity just to back up a story that will be printed anyway. Often papers don’t fear lawsuits, as the publicity for the paper and what the story earns them is higher than the payment in damages.

With the rise of internet journalism, where the best headline gets the most hits, and a story has to be short and sharp to gain the most reactions it is getting worse.

No star is safe and the more outrageous the gossip, the better it is. And not just celebrities either; its open season for anyone anywhere: Jews, people of colour, gays if there is a group the conservative red tops have it in for you can brace yourself for an attack at least once every fortnight. These days the media has the audacity to claim they are righteous, despite articles looking as if they were written by a prosecutor in a barbaric witch-hunt.

And nowhere the witch-hunt is more clear than when it comes to Michael Jackson. “For a newspaper to risk its credibility with two provably fraudulent stories about the same subject in 8 days. Stories which have been in the public domain, and discredited, for several years each. Something is clearly going on behind the scenes.” Says Charles Thompson an investigative journalist who used to write for these papers, but is now actively against fighting them. He adds: “I simply find it inconceivable that the Daily Mirror did not know this latest story was fraudulent when they published it. The very files Daily Mirror quotes state that the story is untrue, and it was already published/discredited 3yrs ago.”

In the light of all this, is it totally inconceivable that people who work at companies with such low standards – desperate to be biggest selling paper in the country and always in need of cash, would accept payment to smear a dead star so a certain company can get away scot-free? I think not, especially when the stories are written by a guy Michael Jackson successfully sued after a judge ruled he’d made up stories about him.
As Charles Thompson says: “I feel that serious questions need to be asked about what is really going on here.”

“Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don’t make it factual
Though everybody wants to read all about it”

Michael Jackson

http://divinevarod.com/20...eneration/

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Reply #411 posted 07/09/13 6:39pm

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For the first time in my life I am seriously considering the possibility that Michael molested these children. sad

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Reply #412 posted 07/09/13 6:50pm

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mookie said:

LiLi1992 said:


Why Katherine ventured this court? she did not realize that her son is a very controversial figure and her procedural opponents will do anything to back the public against him?

Haven't you noticed by now, she and the rest of the family could careless about protecting MJ's name? They bizarrely choose to play right into the stereotypcial "Black family just want money" image. It's just sad to watch. And as much as I despise AEG, I have to admit I can't wait till AEG starts putting the family's dirt out there. I'm guessing the recent report from radaronline about Katherine not going for restitution from Murray is the beginning of the "Katherine is greedy" strategy AEG plans to put on. biggrin

what other black families in the public realm do you know of who exhibit the type of behavior that u continue to accuse this man's family of....that would make you believe this plays into some sort of longstanding stereotype

like, in all my years, I've never heard of this stereotype before....

why does it have to be a thing associated with a distinct culture of people for?

there's all kinds of people/families representing all walks who have battled over money....that lust isn't a race thing, that's a human element...it has nothing to do with being black, white, or any other creed or color..

throughout time, particularly during the age of mass media, we've heard story after story about families from all walks battling over money......

John travolta and his wife are battling over a quarter of a billion dollars as we speak.......

what about Anna Nicole Smith...the fact her family has been battling over her half a billion dollar estate......I'm talking about real life battle

as far as the notion that his family never defending MIchael's name, they BEEN trying to do it for well over 20 years, no sooner than those 93 allegations surfaced..

when he was performing in Bangkok and cancelled that concert, his entire family squad flew cross continental and helf a major press conference to support Michael Jackson........

they've been doing it the whole time.........

there's other clips showing his family supporting him in 1993...

fast forward to 2003, when Jermaine Jackson said the world was witnessing a modern day lynching when MIchael was taken into custody by authorities.....

what about the day of his arraignment in 2004.....

from the time of that arraignment to the day the jury reached a verdict in that 2005 trial, his moma was at that court every single frickin day dealing w/all that bullshit crap, a situation that could have been avoided all along........

but where were all his friends, there were nowhere in the stratosphere as I knew they weren't going to be, they were cool on him and the entire situation......ALL OF EM.......

but his family showed up at that trial hand and foot

and the week before the trial started, Katherine and Joseph did at least 2 major network tv interviews defending their child, or I should say supporting their child, one with Rita Crosby on Fox, and the other on CBS even when they were called to defend how they raised their children some 35-40 after the fact, which was insane....I think they even did a 3rd interview...

and days after the acquittal, Jermaine Jackson did an interview with BET supporting his brother w/everything he had........


there's other clips but the proof is in the proverbial pudding

the entire time, they stood behind him, even when MIchael moved beyond his natural being, even as cutt throats began to destroy the family dynamic, they stood behind him.....

so this notion of them being moneygrabbers has been cooked up and played out


[Edited 7/9/13 19:36pm]

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Reply #413 posted 07/09/13 6:50pm

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Wade Robson's Michael Jackson long-shot lawsuit obsession

Welcome to Bugging Me Right Now, a recurring blog segment that deals with entertainment news The Fame Fatale can't seem to shake. (Another thing that has me obsessed: Finding a better name for this friggin' segment.)

This week, what's bugging me is Wade Robson. You'll remember Wade Robson as the 30-year-old dancer who, as a child, was totally, completely not being abused by Michael Jackson. Cut to a few weeks ago, and get this: Wade Robson was absolutely positively abused by Jackson. So sayeth Wade Robson.
How do I know this? Because Robson, who defended Jackson's honor during his 2005 molestation trial, has now filed a claim against the dead singer's estate. The jist of Robson's argument: That he didn't know that his childhood activities with Jackson constituted abuse, until more recently, when Robson went through therapy. Now, Robson knows he's a victim, and he wants compensation.
Here's the problem: The statutes of limitation. No matter what starting-line you use-the date of Jackson's death, the dates of the alleged abuses, the date when Robson first had his apparent epiphany-those statues are long expired. And Robson seems to know that.
Which brings me to my current obsession: The odds are so, so stacked against this guy. So what. The frack. Does Robson. Think. He is doing.
In between tearing out my hair in bloody chunks, I reached out to a couple of lawyers who specialize in this stuff. (Not abuse-epiphany stuff. Suing-dead-people stuff.) And they calmed me the hell down. They explained that there are a couple of very solid, very logical reasons for Robson's apparent kamikaze mission.
Attorney Irwin Feinberg notes that, even if Robson never wins a dime from the Jackson estate, the dancer's public filing and subsequent press coverage has garnered something much more valuable.
"Other than a hail-Mary pass at trying to get this claim heard, I think he's just hoping on getting publicity," Feinberg notes. And publicity equals potential interest from press. The kind of press that pays thousands of dollars for exclusive interviews. Or maybe Robson crafts a book deal and earns himself a nice, hefty advance.
Mission accomplished. Robson now has money.
The other possible strategy is that Robson thinks he can play a long game against the Jackson estate.
"Oftentimes," notes Greenberg Glusker's Ricardo Cestero, "people will file incredibly long-shot claims and come up with novel arguments about why they should be allowed to get around the statutes, on the off chance that they can convince a judge that their arguments pass the smell test."
Then, as he and colleague Laura Zwicker explained to me, "they get the case far enough along where the executor of the estate will say, 'You know what? Here's a few hundred thousand dollars to go away, because we don't want to keep fighting this case'."
And I am now officially at peace. Hairless. But at peace.

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Reply #414 posted 07/09/13 6:54pm

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mookie said:

Haven't you noticed by now, she and the rest of the family could careless about protecting MJ's name? They bizarrely choose to play right into the stereotypcial "Black family just want money" image. It's just sad to watch. And as much as I despise AEG, I have to admit I can't wait till AEG starts putting the family's dirt out there. I'm guessing the recent report from radaronline about Katherine not going for restitution from Murray is the beginning of the "Katherine is greedy" strategy AEG plans to put on. biggrin

This trial was so uncalled for. When AEG spoke of the trial becoming "nasty" I assumed they meant within the trial. I never expected only few days into the trial new abuse allegations would come about from Wade Robson, a stance ex-defencer of MJ, then we have all the dubious fbi files stories. I don't know whether it is all just a big coincidence or something more orchestrated is happening. I just have feeling this would not be happening if it weren't for the trial.

I have no doubt that AEG is behind this Wade Robson crap. It came out a while ago that the FBI had been watching MJ, but they never had anything on him. Whenever an MJ molestation allegation comes about that does not involve the "victim" wanting money, maybe then I'll take them seriously. That has never happened in any of the cases.

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Scorp said:

mookie said:

Haven't you noticed by now, she and the rest of the family could careless about protecting MJ's name? They bizarrely choose to play right into the stereotypcial "Black family just want money" image. It's just sad to watch. And as much as I despise AEG, I have to admit I can't wait till AEG starts putting the family's dirt out there. I'm guessing the recent report from radaronline about Katherine not going for restitution from Murray is the beginning of the "Katherine is greedy" strategy AEG plans to put on. biggrin

what other black families in the public realm do you know of who exhibit the type of behavior that u continue to accuse this man's family of....that would make you believe this plays into some sort of longstanding stereotype

like, in all my years, I've never heard of this stereotype before....

why does it have to be a thing associated with a distinct culture of people for?

there's all kinds of people/families representing all walks who have battled over money....that lust isn't a race thing, that's a human element...it has nothing to do with being black, white, or any other creed or color..

throughout time, particularly during the age of mass media, we've heard story after story about families from all walks battling over money......

John travolta and his wife are battling over a quarter of a billion dollars as we speak.......

what about Anna Nicole Smith...the fact her family has been battling over her half a billion dollar estate......I'm talking about real life battle

as far as the notion that his family never defending MIchael's name, they BEEN trying to do it for well over 20 years, no sooner than those 93 allegations surfaced..

when he was performing in Bangkok and cancelled that concert, his entire family squad flew cross continental and helf a major press conference to support Michael Jackson........

they've been doing it the whole time.........

there's other clips showing his family supporting him in 1993...

fast forward to 2003, when Jermaine Jackson said the world was witnessing a modern day lynching when MIchael was taken into custody by authorities.....

what about the day of his arraignment in 2004.....

from the time of that arraignment to the day the jury reached a verdict in that 2005 trial, his moma was at that court every single frickin day dealing w/all that bullshit crap, a situation that could have been avoided all along........

but where were all his friends, there were nowhere in the stratosphere as I knew they weren't going to be, they were cool on him and the entire situation......ALL OF EM.......

but his family showed up at that trial hand and foot

and the week before the trial started, Katherine and Joseph did at least 2 major network tv interviews defending their child, or I should say supporting their child, one with Rita Crosby on Fox, and the other on CBS even when they were called to defend how they raised their children some 35-40 after the fact, which was insane....I think they even did a 3rd interview...

and days after the acquittal, Jermaine Jackson did an interview with BET supporting his brother w/everything he had........


there's other clips but the proof is in the proverbial pudding

the entire time, they stood behind him, even when MIchael moved beyond his natural being, even as cutt throats began to destroy the family dynamic, they stood behind him.....

so this notion of them being moneygrabbers has been cooked up and played out


[Edited 7/9/13 19:36pm]

I am sorry Scorp as much as I admire the Jacksons, although I do not care much for Joe Jackson, the family are greedy. What is the point of sueing AEG for $40000 billion? Even if MJ made it through the concerts he probably would not have made more than 400, million at the very most. Dr Murray is in prison for Manslaughter so it would make more sense to be suing him than AEG. But of course they will not do that because he he is practically bankrupt.

Yes the family supported him in his time of need, but he was practically supporting his mother financially as well as a large number of his nephews and nieces which his 2 brothers Jermaine and Randy decided to dump on their mother.

Now, AEG will be starting their defense soon, if someone like me who has great admiration for Katherine Jackson can see the glaring greed can you imagine how AEG will make her and the rest of the family look in court.

And stop mixing up the family blatant greed with MJ own issues. Even if MJ laid off the surgery and lived a more "normal" life that still does not stop the family being filled with greed. Going on about if only MJ stayed "natural" is neither here or there. As much as I had doubts before I am not going to argue with an offical autopsy report: the guy had vitiligo, yea he may have bleach to try and even his skin out and he still did too much surgery, but that still does not absolve the family of their blatant greed.

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Reply #417 posted 07/10/13 3:37am

Scorp

whatsgoingon said:

Scorp said:

what other black families in the public realm do you know of who exhibit the type of behavior that u continue to accuse this man's family of....that would make you believe this plays into some sort of longstanding stereotype

like, in all my years, I've never heard of this stereotype before....

why does it have to be a thing associated with a distinct culture of people for?

there's all kinds of people/families representing all walks who have battled over money....that lust isn't a race thing, that's a human element...it has nothing to do with being black, white, or any other creed or color..

throughout time, particularly during the age of mass media, we've heard story after story about families from all walks battling over money......

John travolta and his wife are battling over a quarter of a billion dollars as we speak.......

what about Anna Nicole Smith...the fact her family has been battling over her half a billion dollar estate......I'm talking about real life battle

as far as the notion that his family never defending MIchael's name, they BEEN trying to do it for well over 20 years, no sooner than those 93 allegations surfaced..

when he was performing in Bangkok and cancelled that concert, his entire family squad flew cross continental and helf a major press conference to support Michael Jackson........

they've been doing it the whole time.........

there's other clips showing his family supporting him in 1993...

fast forward to 2003, when Jermaine Jackson said the world was witnessing a modern day lynching when MIchael was taken into custody by authorities.....

what about the day of his arraignment in 2004.....

from the time of that arraignment to the day the jury reached a verdict in that 2005 trial, his moma was at that court every single frickin day dealing w/all that bullshit crap, a situation that could have been avoided all along........

but where were all his friends, there were nowhere in the stratosphere as I knew they weren't going to be, they were cool on him and the entire situation......ALL OF EM.......

but his family showed up at that trial hand and foot

and the week before the trial started, Katherine and Joseph did at least 2 major network tv interviews defending their child, or I should say supporting their child, one with Rita Crosby on Fox, and the other on CBS even when they were called to defend how they raised their children some 35-40 after the fact, which was insane....I think they even did a 3rd interview...

and days after the acquittal, Jermaine Jackson did an interview with BET supporting his brother w/everything he had........


there's other clips but the proof is in the proverbial pudding

the entire time, they stood behind him, even when MIchael moved beyond his natural being, even as cutt throats began to destroy the family dynamic, they stood behind him.....

so this notion of them being moneygrabbers has been cooked up and played out


[Edited 7/9/13 19:36pm]

I am sorry Scorp as much as I admire the Jacksons, although I do not care much for Joe Jackson, the family are greedy. What is the point of sueing AEG for $40000 billion? Even if MJ made it through the concerts he probably would not have made more than 400, million at the very most. Dr Murray is in prison for Manslaughter so it would make more sense to be suing him than AEG. But of course they will not do that because he he is practically bankrupt.

Yes the family supported him in his time of need, but he was practically supporting his mother financially as well as a large number of his nephews and nieces which his 2 brothers Jermaine and Randy decided to dump on their mother.

Now, AEG will be starting their defense soon, if someone like me who has great admiration for Katherine Jackson can see the glaring greed can you imagine how AEG will make her and the rest of the family look in court.

And stop mixing up the family blatant greed with MJ own issues. Even if MJ laid off the surgery and lived a more "normal" life that still does not stop the family being filled with greed. Going on about if only MJ stayed "natural" is neither here or there. As much as I had doubts before I am not going to argue with an offical autopsy report: the guy had vitiligo, yea he may have bleach to try and even his skin out and he still did too much surgery, but that still does not absolve the family of their blatant greed.

[Edited 7/10/13 1:57am]

and after everything you said, you played right into the hands of the hostile view the guy I responded to last night who claim the Jacksons carry on the stereotype of the greedy black family, as this one single family has been "dumped" on by the public realm for well over a quarter century by a society who has been manipulated, misled, and conned into believing anything and everything but the truth

we speak on the effects rather than discerning the cause

we say guys were leeches based on the impression gived, but have no idea how these guys careers were sabotaged 22 years ago.....

and commercial media has been rippin the jacksons to shreds loooooooooooooooooong before the notion was presented they were after somebody's money, the family dynamic was already destroyed by the end of the 80s

but nothing is eeeeeeeeever mentioned about other familys battling over money, real money, money that' actually tangible for decades

see, you respond to my post because you want to believe the notion the family is greedy, but yuo didn't say one iota about a guy who "dumped" by suggesting they play into the stereotype of being a "greedy black family" when his viewpoint is warped.......

for being greedy has absolutely nothing to do with representing stereotypes or what color we are, that behavior stems from the human element when that notion actually applies

for this AEG trial aint about money as much as it is about something else altogether but that's another subject

as far as the plastic surgery goes, I'm totally against it when ANYBODY has too much surgery, rather it's Michael Jackson or somebody else, these public figures who are destroying their body and countenance, and their well being don't need it, never did, and the only reason they are doing it is because society puts the pressure on them to do so........

if a white person, asian person, latino, south american, european, african, or a person of any other culture has too much surgery I'm totally against it....

society needs to check itself, especially those who don't represent the realm of authenticity, who send out the hints, the suggestions, the queues and create the environment that forces indivudals to destroy themselves trying to achieve a look motivated in the need to please them and to be accepted.......

I think it's totally criminal, and not smooth criminal at that.....

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Although I am against the series of surgeries that are changing the shape of the person, I believe that a couple of them are permissible if it will make someone happier and get rid of complexes.

Michael was very cute as a child. but after 15 his appearance greatly deteriorated, he looked OK (better than some of his brothers), but not good enough for a major pop star of the planet, so I do not mind the first few plastic surgery, I think they were justified and well-made he was really a very beautiful guy .... up to a point, of course... then it all became uncontrollable.

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LiLi1992 said:

Although I am against the series of surgeries that are changing the shape of the person, I believe that a couple of them are permissible if it will make someone happier and get rid of complexes.

Michael was very cute as a child. but after 15 his appearance greatly deteriorated, he looked OK (better than some of his brothers), but not good enough for a major pop star of the planet, so I do not mind the first few plastic surgery, I think they were justified and well-made he was really a very beautiful guy .... up to a point, of course... then it all became uncontrollable.

for me, I never had a problem with the way he looked, w/the way his siblings looks...none of them needed plastic surgery for me to support their talent or their music

that goes for any other artist regardless of gender, race or creed

I would have bought every single one of his albums if he never had a single procedure

same goes for Janet, Jermaine, Randy, Rebbie or anyone else

these days, people are having plastic surgery just for the sake of doing it,

asian women are having there eye shape altered to meet teh commercial standard, they are also having their legs extended by having metal rods inserted to expand their joints.....

if MJ or his family never became entertainers, none of them would have ever had the idea of undergoing one single procedure...that goes for a litany of these public figures

and why did it become uncontrollable, not just regarding MJ but a sea of these public figures, singers, actors and actresses

because all of them are seeking a beauty standard that isn't real, that doesn't even exist, the need to seek acceptance rather than being accepted from the start......

take the great country singer Kenny Rogers.....

the guy was like super cool, great guy, well rounded talent, cool looking guy.....then all of a sudden, he followed the trend and started having untold surgeries and then took it a step further and had unnecessary lyposuction, and now his digestive tract is all but shot

and he has publically acknowledged he regrets having all of that done because he understands that he never needed to take that route, and he said the reason he did it was because of societal pressure and he said society needs to stop placing unfair expectations on people performing professionaly....

it aint worth it....

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