Prince Jackson
My Grandma Was
Mentally ABUSED

Michael Jackson's eldest child is putting his relatives on blast -- particularly Janet Jackson -- by posting what he claims is an angry group text message convo about his grandmother Katherine Jackson.

Katherine returned from Arizona late last night, but a few hours later Prince Jackson sent out a tweet that included the text message, dated July 23rd (Monday). In it Prince says, "This is enough so I am texting you for the simple fact that WE DEMAND TO SPEAK TO MY GRANDMA NOW!!!"

A reply from "Janet Jackson" reads ... "Don't let them pls." It appears the message continued, but Prince did not post the rest of it.

In his tweet Prince also says, "Although I am happy my grandma was returned, after speaking with her I realized how misguided and how badly she was lied to. I’m really angry and hurt."

He continues, "For this whole time, they denied us contact to our grandmother. If you continue with your lies I will continue with the truth.”

Prince added a reference to his father -- "As long as I can remember my dad had repeatedly warned me of certain people and their ways."

http://www.tmz.com/2012/0...ullwrapper

TonyVanDam said:

Azz said:

Not all of them.

Janet's and Latoya's are fine.

Janet can keep a Facebook account for music business-related purposes only. . But no Twitter account to continue her feud with Paris!

LaToya needs to stay the hell away from her laptop and smartphone, period. We do NOT want her to have any bright idea.

Janet did not Tweet to Paris. Janet has class.

dag said:

Azz said:

What are you talking about.

I'm talking about the conversation. Why would Janet reply to Prince saying 'Don't let them pls'. It doesn't make any sense. She is talking to someone else about him even though he was the one who sent the text. It doesn't make sense.

[Edited 7/26/12 5:37am]

It wasn't her reply to Prince, obviously.

Yes it is. He sent her a Text!

And if it isnt, then there has been tampering going on. Which we already know there has been

allsmutaside said:

TonyVanDam said:

Remember back at the original thread I posted twice that Janet's dark side has been creeping out?

Well never mind the "creeping" part, Janet IS evil. And it's a damn shame that Prince Michael had to see this for himself before saving the text to show the whole world.

Tony, I would like to say that she didn't want her mother's stress level to be affected by the grandchildren when she said "Don't let them pls." But that really doesn't seem to be the case. This has brought me back to the business with Justin Timberlake - I can see the text now during the planning of the wardrobe malfunction - "Don't tell him pls."

Alls, Katherine's stress level is going to pick up regardless as soon as she FINALLY realises how 4 of her own children were using her as part of their plan for war against Michael's estate, not to mention that 2 of them (Jermaine AND Randy) has to THE biggest f***ing idiots for thinking their game plan was going to work in their favor.

Azz said:

TonyVanDam said:

Janet can keep a Facebook account for music business-related purposes only. . But no Twitter account to continue her feud with Paris!

LaToya needs to stay the hell away from her laptop and smartphone, period. We do NOT want her to have any bright idea.

Janet did not Tweet to Paris. Janet has class.

I know she didn't, thank goodness. And I hope Janet NEVER get a Twitter account neither.

TonyVanDam said:

Azz said:

Janet did not Tweet to Paris. Janet has class.

I know she didn't, thank goodness. And I hope Janet NEVER get a Twitter account neither.

She has one.

dag said:

Azz said:

She adressed Prince in third person in he reply TO HIM!

It doesn't make any sense. It's not my fault you can't comprehend simple pronouns.

"Don't let them!" Where do you see he or him?

The word 'them', is third person plural.

Why would she speak in third person to someone? It's clear this picture has been manipulated and tampered with.

musicjunky318 said:

Prince Jackson
My Grandma Was
Mentally ABUSED

Did he tweet that, musicjunky? Oh shit, here come the big I thought he was the one to look out for.

Marlon went on his Twitter and said Randy, Janet, & Jermaine told him he couldn't see their mother.

Marlon Jackson5‏@Marlon_Jackson

Hello everyone Thank you for your support. I'm tired of not knowing where my mom is. I did speak with her last night but she didn't sound

Marlon Jackson5‏@Marlon_Jackson

like herself. I was told by Janet, Randy and Jermaine that I could not see my mom. Doctor's order.

Marlon Jackson5‏@Marlon_Jackson

But I see them on television with her. How come they could not call me so I could be with her as well.

KATHERINE JACKSON
Could Lose Millions
In Perks

EXCLUSIVE

The plot to turn Katherine Jackson against the Michael Jackson Estatehas backfired in the most ironic of ways ... because the money grab could end up costing Katherine millions in perks.

When Katherine was appointed guardian of Paris, Prince and Blanket, the Executors gave an allowance of $60,000 per month for the care of the children ... that's $720,000 a year. Less than a year later the judge increased the 60k to 70k, and that would make the yearly take $840,000.

The judge is now in position to strip Katherine of guardianship altogether. If that happens, the executors will almost certainly petition the court to funnel the money in TJ's direction, since he would be caring for the children.

Katherine never had control of the money for the kids, but she enjoys a lot of the perks the kids get, and that goes away if she loses guardianship. She would still, of course, retain the allowance he personally receives from the Estate.

Short story ... Randy, Jermaine, Janet and Rebbie set out to turn Katherine against the estate so she could get more money during her lifetime -- money she could dole out to them -- but the plot may have actually screwed Katherine.

When she realizes what hit her, mama's gonna be pissed.

NaughtyKitty said:

KATHERINE JACKSON
Could Lose Millions
In Perks

EXCLUSIVE

The plot to turn Katherine Jackson against the Michael Jackson Estatehas backfired in the most ironic of ways ... because the money grab could end up costing Katherine millions in perks.

When Katherine was appointed guardian of Paris, Prince and Blanket, the Executors gave an allowance of $60,000 per month for the care of the children ... that's $720,000 a year. Less than a year later the judge increased the 60k to 70k, and that would make the yearly take $840,000.

The judge is now in position to strip Katherine of guardianship altogether. If that happens, the executors will almost certainly petition the court to funnel the money in TJ's direction, since he would be caring for the children.

Katherine never had control of the money for the kids, but she enjoys a lot of the perks the kids get, and that goes away if she loses guardianship. She would still, of course, retain the allowance he personally receives from the Estate.

Short story ... Randy, Jermaine, Janet and Rebbie set out to turn Katherine against the estate so she could get more money during her lifetime -- money she could dole out to them -- but the plot may have actually screwed Katherine.

When she realizes what hit her, mama's gonna be pissed.

I doubt it.

Janet has paid so much money to Joe, Reebie, Randy and Marlon. She won't let her mum go broke.

Its hilarious watching 2 teenage kids take down the entire jackson family.

Azz said:

TonyVanDam said:

I know she didn't, thank goodness. And I hope Janet NEVER get a Twitter account neither.

She has one.

Oh no! Now I don't have enough for the next dysfunctional family drama.

[Edited 7/26/12 8:23am]

I'm just waiting for one of the siblings to come out and say, "She ain't even your grandma" "You don't even belong to us." I really hope it doesn't go there but I can see it snowballing in that direction.

[Edited 7/26/12 8:20am]

NaughtyKitty said:

KATHERINE JACKSON
Could Lose Millions
In Perks

EXCLUSIVE

The plot to turn Katherine Jackson against the Michael Jackson Estatehas backfired in the most ironic of ways ... because the money grab could end up costing Katherine millions in perks.

When Katherine was appointed guardian of Paris, Prince and Blanket, the Executors gave an allowance of $60,000 per month for the care of the children ... that's $720,000 a year. Less than a year later the judge increased the 60k to 70k, and that would make the yearly take $840,000.

The judge is now in position to strip Katherine of guardianship altogether. If that happens, the executors will almost certainly petition the court to funnel the money in TJ's direction, since he would be caring for the children.

Katherine never had control of the money for the kids, but she enjoys a lot of the perks the kids get, and that goes away if she loses guardianship. She would still, of course, retain the allowance he personally receives from the Estate.

Short story ... Randy, Jermaine, Janet and Rebbie set out to turn Katherine against the estate so she could get more money during her lifetime -- money she could dole out to them -- but the plot may have actually screwed Katherine.

When she realizes what hit her, mama's gonna be pissed.

Hooray for TJ.

musicjunky318 said:

I'm just waiting for one of the siblings to come out and say, "She ain't even your grandma" "You don't even belong to us." I really hope it doesn't go there but I can see it snowballing in that direction.

[Edited 7/26/12 8:20am]

Oh you know thats already been said at one of their family reunions. Probably by Papa Joe himself.

[Edited 7/26/12 8:24am]

lazycrockett said:

Its hilarious watching 2 teenage kids take down the entire jackson family.

It's a little crazy. Had they not met these kids before last month? Did they not know that these kids learned a thing or two from their father?

I am crushing on the idea of Joe sitting around at the other estate looking at this on the cable TV. I don't know that he has had anything to do with this bullshit up to this point.

SoulAlive said:

lazycrockett said:

musicjunky318 said:

I'm just waiting for one of the siblings to come out and say, "She ain't even your grandma" "You don't even belong to us." I really hope it doesn't go there but I can see it snowballing in that direction.

[Edited 7/26/12 8:20am]

Oh you know thats already been said at one of their family reunions. Probably by Papa Joe himself.

[Edited 7/26/12 8:24am]

allsmutaside said:

lazycrockett said:

Its hilarious watching 2 teenage kids take down the entire jackson family.

It's a little crazy. Had they not met these kids before last month? Did they not know that these kids learned a thing or two from their father?

I am crushing on the idea of Joe sitting around at the other estate looking at this on the cable TV. I don't know that he has had anything to do with this bullshit up to this point.

Joe is chillin. I always said he was laidback.

Ottensen said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Amen! Amen! Amen!

As crazy as this shit has already become, I am honestly afraid to think of what might have gone on had Paris not been making it public.

Agreed.

Yup. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

And like Hatrina said earlier, the very reason cycles of dysfunction continue is because of destructive family secrets, lies and deception. Katherine is probably a good hearted lady for all I know, but beginning with Joe, she is way too passive, timid and unsophisticated to effectively deal with the many strong personalities that surround her and always has been. She strikes me as an enabler...very gullible and easy to manipulate by anybody with an agenda.

And I share Hatrina's hopes that TJ is on the up and up. It is possible that he is the one who talked some sense into his father, Tito and caused him to resign his support from the attack on the estate. Remember, Tito has been on his own, working steady for years and only recently came back into the fold during the reality show and the tour, so he could have been out of the loop concerning a lot of the scheming and conniving that was going on. As far as I know he has always preferred doing his own thing and I can't recall any instances of him manipulating his mom or other family members as Jermaine and Randy have repeately been shown to do.

But we all know that it's the roaches that scatter when the lights are turned on, so in this case where the kids are being put into a situation where they have to basically save themselves due to the decades long dysfunction of the adults around them...maybe raising a few alarms was the best option.

babynoz said:

Ottensen said:

Agreed.

Yup. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

And like Hatrina said earlier, the very reason cycles of dysfunction continue is because of destructive family secrets, lies and deception. Katherine is probably a good hearted lady for all I know, but beginning with Joe, she is way too passive, timid and unsophisticated to effectively deal with the many strong personalities that surround her and always has been. She strikes me as an enabler...very gullible and easy to manipulate by anybody with an agenda.

And I share Hatrina's hopes that TJ is on the up and up. It is possible that he is the one who talked some sense into his father, Tito and caused him to resign his support from the attack on the estate. Remember, Tito has been on his own, working steady for years and only recently came back into the fold during the reality show and the tour, so he could have been out of the loop concerning a lot of the scheming and conniving that was going on. As far as I know he has always preferred doing his own thing and I can't recall any instances of him manipulating his mom or other family members as Jermaine and Randy have repeately been shown to do.

But we all know that it's the roaches that scatter when the lights are turned on, so in this case where the kids are being put into a situation where they have to basically save themselves due to the decades long dysfunction of the adults around them...maybe raising a few alarms was the best option.

Totally agree with this especially the bolded.

On another note I wonder if all this negative publicity will cause Nutrisystem to drop Janet as their spokesperson?

babynoz said:

Ottensen said:

Agreed.

Yup. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

And like Hatrina said earlier, the very reason cycles of dysfunction continue is because of destructive family secrets, lies and deception. Katherine is probably a good hearted lady for all I know, but beginning with Joe, she is way too passive, timid and unsophisticated to effectively deal with the many strong personalities that surround her and always has been. She strikes me as an enabler...very gullible and easy to manipulate by anybody with an agenda.

And I share Hatrina's hopes that TJ is on the up and up. It is possible that he is the one who talked some sense into his father, Tito and caused him to resign his support from the attack on the estate. Remember, Tito has been on his own, working steady for years and only recently came back into the fold during the reality show and the tour, so he could have been out of the loop concerning a lot of the scheming and conniving that was going on. As far as I know he has always preferred doing his own thing and I can't recall any instances of him manipulating his mom or other family members as Jermaine and Randy have repeately been shown to do.

But we all know that it's the roaches that scatter when the lights are turned on, so in this case where the kids are being put into a situation where they have to basically save themselves due to the decades long dysfunction of the adults around them...maybe raising a few alarms was the best option.

OUCH! They say that the truth hurts.

"And I share Hatrina's hopes that TJ is on the up and up." Yes. Yes also on Tito being The Man. I find him to be compelling and interesting.

I also agree with this: "Katherine is probably a good hearted lady for all I know, but beginning with Joe, she is way too passive, timid and unsophisticated to effectively deal with the many strong personalities that surround her and always has been." But I also think that she responds to these things with her own manipulations and power plays. There really are no altruists on this earth, and she allows people to drape that cloth on her for it serves her.

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NaughtyKitty said:

babynoz said:

Yup. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

And like Hatrina said earlier, the very reason cycles of dysfunction continue is because of destructive family secrets, lies and deception. Katherine is probably a good hearted lady for all I know, but beginning with Joe, she is way too passive, timid and unsophisticated to effectively deal with the many strong personalities that surround her and always has been. She strikes me as an enabler...very gullible and easy to manipulate by anybody with an agenda.

And I share Hatrina's hopes that TJ is on the up and up. It is possible that he is the one who talked some sense into his father, Tito and caused him to resign his support from the attack on the estate. Remember, Tito has been on his own, working steady for years and only recently came back into the fold during the reality show and the tour, so he could have been out of the loop concerning a lot of the scheming and conniving that was going on. As far as I know he has always preferred doing his own thing and I can't recall any instances of him manipulating his mom or other family members as Jermaine and Randy have repeately been shown to do.

But we all know that it's the roaches that scatter when the lights are turned on, so in this case where the kids are being put into a situation where they have to basically save themselves due to the decades long dysfunction of the adults around them...maybe raising a few alarms was the best option.

Totally agree with this especially the bolded.

On another note I wonder if all this negative publicity will cause Nutrisystem to drop Janet as their spokesperson?

i'm wondering the same thing. i hope not, but won't be surprised if NS does drop her. most companies try to dismiss the people they hire if the said person brings in negative publicity.

i'm still hoping mrs jackson is doing alright. makes me wonder who is briefing her on the most current and past events, and how or if they will embellish on the facts and leave out the most important information

[Edited 7/26/12 8:57am]

Azz said:

dag said:

It wasn't her reply to Prince, obviously.

Yes it is. He sent her a Text!

And if it isnt, then there has been tampering going on. Which we already know there has been

No it isn't...both he and Janet are addressing Rebbie.

I'm still shocked that Janet chose to get involved in this mess We all thought that she was the level-headed,down-to-earth one.

NaughtyKitty said:

Wow, the media is all over Prince's tweet exposing Janet directly conspiring to keep her niece and nephews away from talking to their grandma. This is not going to go well for her!

Exclusive: Janet Jackson Kept Kids From Speaking with Grandmother

Prince Michael Jackson, 15, has posted on Twitter a direct message he sent to family members demanding to speak to his grandmother. Janet Jackson responded to the message: “Don’t let them please.” Prince had texted Rebbie, her son Austin and Janet Jackson: “This is enough. So I am texting you for the simply fact that WE DEMAND TO SPEAK TO MY GRANDMA NOW!!!”twitter.com/princemjjjaxo...80/photo/1

http://www.showbiz411.com...randmother

Prince Michael Exposes Text

Proving Janet Jackson Refused To

Let Katherine Talk To Kids

Michael Jackson's oldest child, Prince Michael, broke his silence Thursday on the drama surrounding his family by tweeting a terse text exchange between he and his aunt, Janet Jackson, which apparently shows the Control singer did not want Prince, nor Paris orBlanket for that matter, to see their grandmother, Katherine Jackson.

In the text -- sent this past Monday at 4:52 PM -- Prince Michael writes "This is enough so I am texting you for the simple fact that WE DEMAND TO SPEAK TO MY GRANDMA NOW!"

Prince Michael sent the text to his aunts Rebbie and Janet, and also to another relative, Austin Jackson. Janet responded: 'Don't let them pls."

The text exchange contradicts a claim by Randy Jackson earlier this week that Michael’s children were free to see or talk with their grandmother at any time.

During an appearance Tuesday on MSNBC’s PoliticsNation, Randy spoke with the Rev. Al Sharpton about the altercation that took place a day earlier between some of Michael’s siblings and his children at Katherine’s Calabasas home.

"We are a family first. I want you to know that,” Randy told Sharpton.” Yesterday we did go to the home to let Paris and Prince know that they can visit with or talk to their grandma at any time. We felt someone was trying to twist the story that we were denying them access to their grandma.

Moments before Prince tweeted the text exchange, he posted this message:

"I would first like to start off this tweet by thanking the fans that have always stood by me and my family, my dad really appreciated your support and I still treasure it to this day. As I am sure everyone is well aware of the events that have been going on. I have been holding off on backing up my sister and her tweets avidly because I was waiting for the time to reveal my side.

"As long as I can remember my dad had repeatedly warned me of certain people and their ways. Although I am happy my grandma was returned, after speaking with her I realized how misguided and how badly she was lied to. I'm really angry and hurt. The following image is of a group chat I had started to several family members. This group text message I had started was replied to but they didn't know that I could see the responses. For this whole time, they denied us contact to our grandmother. "If you continue with your lies I will continue with the truth."

http://www.radaronline.co...-talk-kids

Azz said:

NaughtyKitty said:

KATHERINE JACKSON
Could Lose Millions
In Perks

EXCLUSIVE

The plot to turn Katherine Jackson against the Michael Jackson Estatehas backfired in the most ironic of ways ... because the money grab could end up costing Katherine millions in perks.

When Katherine was appointed guardian of Paris, Prince and Blanket, the Executors gave an allowance of $60,000 per month for the care of the children ... that's $720,000 a year. Less than a year later the judge increased the 60k to 70k, and that would make the yearly take $840,000.

The judge is now in position to strip Katherine of guardianship altogether. If that happens, the executors will almost certainly petition the court to funnel the money in TJ's direction, since he would be caring for the children.

Katherine never had control of the money for the kids, but she enjoys a lot of the perks the kids get, and that goes away if she loses guardianship. She would still, of course, retain the allowance he personally receives from the Estate.

Short story ... Randy, Jermaine, Janet and Rebbie set out to turn Katherine against the estate so she could get more money during her lifetime -- money she could dole out to them -- but the plot may have actually screwed Katherine.

When she realizes what hit her, mama's gonna be pissed.

I doubt it.

Janet has paid so much money to Joe, Reebie, Randy and Marlon. She won't let her mum go broke.

That might be why she's in this whole mess.

allsmutaside said:

babynoz said:

Yup. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

And like Hatrina said earlier, the very reason cycles of dysfunction continue is because of destructive family secrets, lies and deception. Katherine is probably a good hearted lady for all I know, but beginning with Joe, she is way too passive, timid and unsophisticated to effectively deal with the many strong personalities that surround her and always has been. She strikes me as an enabler...very gullible and easy to manipulate by anybody with an agenda.

And I share Hatrina's hopes that TJ is on the up and up. It is possible that he is the one who talked some sense into his father, Tito and caused him to resign his support from the attack on the estate. Remember, Tito has been on his own, working steady for years and only recently came back into the fold during the reality show and the tour, so he could have been out of the loop concerning a lot of the scheming and conniving that was going on. As far as I know he has always preferred doing his own thing and I can't recall any instances of him manipulating his mom or other family members as Jermaine and Randy have repeately been shown to do.

But we all know that it's the roaches that scatter when the lights are turned on, so in this case where the kids are being put into a situation where they have to basically save themselves due to the decades long dysfunction of the adults around them...maybe raising a few alarms was the best option.

OUCH! They say that the truth hurts.

"And I share Hatrina's hopes that TJ is on the up and up." Yes. Yes also on Tito being The Man. I find him to be compelling and interesting.

I also agree with this: "Katherine is probably a good hearted lady for all I know, but beginning with Joe, she is way too passive, timid and unsophisticated to effectively deal with the many strong personalities that surround her and always has been."

But I also think that she responds to these things with her own manipulations and power plays. There really are no altruists on this earth, and she allows people to drape that cloth on her for it serves her.

I wouldn't say altruistic but I would say that even if she was engaging in any such manipulation or power plays, her best efforts would still be no match for what she's up against.

Don't forget that she is exremely religious in the old school context of being submissive and meek and will only erupt under the most dire circumstances...look how long it took for her to finally get Randy and Jermaine's tramp out of her house?