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Reply #60 posted 07/25/12 9:33pm

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NEWS/

Inside the Jackson Family Feud: A Who's Who Guide

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Reply #61 posted 07/25/12 9:34pm

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Was I the only one that was a little shocked when they heard Michael left the siblings NOTHING in his will?

I know I know, they supposedly had a difficult history, but Michael was worth hundreds of millions of dollars at his death. I thought he was really close to LaToya and close to Janet, Rebe and Tito.

I wasn't to be honest. I remember thinking, well, guess all his resentment and frustration at being bullied and guilted into paying for whatever and whoever finally came out. Too bad he couldn't do it before he died. It might have cleared the air.

The public perception of his relationship with the family seems stuck in the 80s. He never spoke to Latoya again except at the big family gatherings after the stunt she pulled in the 90's. The meet-ups like the BET James Brown thing and stuff? All arranged by Latoya without MJ's knowledge and he was less than welcoming when he found out.

He wasn't close to any of the family except for his mother. This was someone who said regarding his family that he didn't trust any of them except for Kate and went on to add "...and her, I wonder about sometime."

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Reply #62 posted 07/25/12 9:35pm

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helena36 said:

CynicKill said:

Was I the only one that was a little shocked when they heard Michael left the siblings NOTHING in his will?

I know I know, they supposedly had a difficult history, but Michael was worth hundreds of millions of dollars at his death. I thought he was really close to LaToya and close to Janet, Rebe and Tito.

I wasn't to be honest. I remember thinking, well, guess all his resentment and frustration at being bullied and guilted into paying for whatever and whoever finally came out. Too bad he couldn't do it before he died. It might have cleared the air.

The public perception of his relationship with the family seems stuck in the 80s. He never spoke to Latoya again except at the big family gatherings after the stunt she pulled in the 90's. The meet-ups like the BET James Brown thing and stuff? All arranged by Latoya without MJ's knowledge and he was less than welcoming when he found out.

He wasn't close to any of the family except for his mother. This was someone who said regarding his family that he didn't trust any of them except for Kate and went on to add "...and her, I wonder about sometime."

[Edited 7/25/12 21:35pm]

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Reply #63 posted 07/25/12 9:37pm

mjscarousal

helena36 said:

CynicKill said:

Was I the only one that was a little shocked when they heard Michael left the siblings NOTHING in his will?

I know I know, they supposedly had a difficult history, but Michael was worth hundreds of millions of dollars at his death. I thought he was really close to LaToya and close to Janet, Rebe and Tito.

I wasn't to be honest. I remember thinking, well, guess all his resentment and frustration at being bullied and guilted into paying for whatever and whoever finally came out. Too bad he couldn't do it before he died. It might have cleared the air.

The public perception of his relationship with the family seems stuck in the 80s. He never spoke to Latoya again except at the big family gatherings after the stunt she pulled in the 90's. The meet-ups like the BET James Brown thing and stuff? All arranged by Latoya without MJ's knowledge and he was less than welcoming when he found out.

He wasn't close to any of the family except for his mother. This was someone who said regarding his family that he didn't trust any of them except for Kate and went on to add "...and her, I wonder about sometime."

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YUP

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Reply #64 posted 07/25/12 9:39pm

musicology54

So true.

helena36 said:



CynicKill said:


Was I the only one that was a little shocked when they heard Michael left the siblings NOTHING in his will?



I know I know, they supposedly had a difficult history, but Michael was worth hundreds of millions of dollars at his death. I thought he was really close to LaToya and close to Janet, Rebe and Tito.





I wasn't to be honest. I remember thinking, well, guess all his resentment and frustration at being bullied and guilted into paying for whatever and whoever finally came out. Too bad he couldn't do it before he died. It might have cleared the air.



The public perception of his relationship with the family seems stuck in the 80s. He never spoke to Latoya again except at the big family gatherings after the stunt she pulled in the 90's. The meet-ups like the BET James Brown thing and stuff? All arranged by Latoya without MJ's knowledge and he was less than welcoming when he found out.



He wasn't close to any of the family except for his mother. This was someone who said regarding his family that he didn't trust any of them except for Kate and went on to add "...and her, I wonder about sometime."




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Reply #65 posted 07/25/12 9:45pm

mjscarousal

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mjscarousal said:

Where did you get this information from?

Did the interview come out yet with Janet, Jermaine, etc?

I made a mistake. She only spoke to Prince personally two days ago, I think. But she said she was in touch with the house the whole time.


From the interview, it aired half an hour ago.

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Reply #66 posted 07/25/12 9:46pm

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Michael was also close to Janet. He may not have seen her often, but they were close. He reached out to her during several pivotal moments in his life and career. He spoke via satellite at her MTV ICON show. She told Robin Roberts about their last conversation, a few days before he died, and that he sat across from her and they laughed like it was old times. It's so sad to me that people would think she is in any way, shape or form trying to steal and/or disrespect his legacy.

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Reply #67 posted 07/25/12 9:50pm

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When this thread into a discussion of drug addiction MJ?? lol
He apparently had addict periods, but the results of autopsy: drugs were not detected in his blood or tissues
+ He had no organic changes that are characteristic of long-term drug use. MJ took some periods, but he obviously was not a chronic drug addict.
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Now about Katherine and children.
Katherine is old, she doesn`t survive the endless showdown .... we are talking about more than one billion dollars!!! eek ! Unfortunately, the brothers and sisters will never depart. mad Therefore, guardians of children must be younger and more resistant to stress people.

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Reply #68 posted 07/25/12 9:54pm

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mjscarousal said:

luv4u said:

Let's keep this thread on track, K???

If you wanna discuss MJ there a friggin sticky for that ya know.

I DIDNT bring Michael up SEANMAN... LOWKEY did and no Im not going to sit here and allow them to trash Michael when this is not about him

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Reply #69 posted 07/25/12 9:54pm

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This could take a toll on Katherine's health ..... even kill her. eek

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Reply #70 posted 07/25/12 9:59pm

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lowkey said:

mjscarousal said:

I DIDNT bring Michael up SEANMAN... LOWKEY did and no Im not going to sit here and allow them to trash Michael when this is not about him

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Move on...........

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Reply #71 posted 07/25/12 10:43pm

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Katherine Jackson Reads “Hostage Statement” And ABC News Lets Her

UPDATE: I am told that Trent Jackson and the security team in Calabasas are employed by the estate of Michael Jackson. They can’t be fired by a family member.

EARLIER: First of all, the ABC News report on “Nightline” with Katherine Jackson reminded me not just a little bit of a hostage reading her kidnapper’s message to the press. Janet and Jermaine Jackson stood behind their mother as she read from a script. It was an orchestrated event, and ABC News– which sources tell bought footage from Randy Jackson for “Good Morning America’–just went along with it. The interviewing producer wasn’t allowed to ask questions! How completely unprofessional! That ABC has allowed itself to become the network of Janet, Jermaine and Randy just to grab access and ratings is very very disappointing.

Then: the hostage crisis. The warring Jacksons each have someone they want gone from the others’ camp. Randy, Jermaine, and Janet want their cousin Trent fired. Michael Jackson hired Trent personally, and Joe Jackson’s nephew has been a loyal and devoted assistant and caregiver to Katherine Jackson. Sources say that Randy in particular hates and resents Trent. Indeed, the “minor scuffle” at the house this week was between them. Trent, they say, put Randy in a headlock. Randy happily Tweeted today that Trent had been fired by his mother. But the reality of that remains to be seen.

Of course, the insiders in Calabasas want someone on the other side gone, too: Janice Smith, Katherine’s assistant. In the reading of the “hostage statement,” Katherine mentioned Janice Smith. From what I know, everyone in the Calabasas house hates Janice Smith. And here’s where it gets interesting. The children say that Janice helped arrange for Katherine’s fake trip to Arizona by telling everyone Mrs. Jackson would be attending her sons’ concerts in Arizona, Nevada, and California. In fact, it was Janice Smith who set up the visit to Miraval Spa in Tucscon, and knew that Mrs. Jackson would not be going to those shows.

Here’s how the whole thing went down according to those in Calabasas: The kids thought their grandmother was going on a road trip to see the shows with Trent. They said their goodbyes. Then Jermaine and Randy managed to axe Trent from the trip, and Janice went on the plane with Mrs. Jackson. In the next day, the infamous letter asking for the resignation of Michael Jackson’s executors appeared.

In the letter, Randy Jackson said his mother had had a “mini stroke.” Seeing this was what inflamed Paris Jackson, who knew no such thing had happened. That’s when she panicked and began Tweeting. It was probably also the moment she realized something was not right with her father’s family.

Now we see Katherine Jackson on ABC News flanked by certain members of her family who want Michael Jackson’s money. She says she’s returning to Los Angeles. It’s not like she’s in Bora Bora. Instead of reading that statement, why hadn’t she simply gone home? What is stopping her? Who? Hopefully once she is home, her advisors will explain what happened. The real question is, Will she listen and understand? Watch the ABC News Nightline video. It’s revelatory.

http://www.showbiz411.com...-statement

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Reply #72 posted 07/25/12 10:44pm

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Judge Beckloff said there was no evidence that Katherine Jackson had done anything wrong but instead it appeared she was being prevented from fulfilling her role as guardian through the "intentional acts of third parties." He didn't elaborate but made the decision after reading court filings in which TJ Jackson expressed concern that Katherine Jackson was being prevented from returning.

He cited a Monday incident in which Janet, Randy and Jermaine Jackson arrived at the children's home and told them they could speak with their grandmother but had to leave with them.

"This was odd and disturbing to me and (the children) and heightened our concern that our grandmother was being prohibited from returning home," TJ Jackson wrote in a sworn statement. The incident turned into a confrontation between two male adults at the house and sheriff's officials say it remains an ongoing battery investigation.

Beckloff listened as attorneys described Katherine Jackson's demeanor as unusual on phone calls placed to the children hours before the hearing.

TJ Jackson's attorney Charles Shultz also revealed in court filings that the children were forced to miss school Wednesday because of concerns about their security. Shultz wrote in a filing that around 3:30 a.m., a new security team arrived at the Jackson home in suburban Calabasas claiming they had been authorized by Katherine Jackson to take charge.

He wrote that the guards asked about the children's school. "That last inquiry caused the head of security to be concerned and he advised that (the children) stay home from school on Wednesday."

Beckloff ruled the Jackson children could not leave California without court approval.

Full story here: http://news.yahoo.com/jud...19459.html

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Reply #73 posted 07/25/12 10:47pm

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mookie said:

Katherine Jackson Reads “Hostage Statement” And ABC News Lets Her

Now we see Katherine Jackson on ABC News flanked by certain members of her family who want Michael Jackson’s money. She says she’s returning to Los Angeles. It’s not like she’s in Bora Bora. Instead of reading that statement, why hadn’t she simply gone home? What is stopping her? Who? Hopefully once she is home, her advisors will explain what happened. The real question is, Will she listen and understand? Watch the ABC News Nightline video. It’s revelatory.

http://www.showbiz411.com...-statement

Great question raised here. Its obvious "who" is stopping her.

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Reply #74 posted 07/25/12 10:48pm

Free2BMe

mjscarousal said:

LittleBlueCorvette said:

I think every deserves blame in this.

From Katherine to Paris to certain siblings.

-Katy, you gotta let the kiddos know where you are at.

-Paris, you can't say things on twitter like "I can't find my grandmother." You know who you are Paris, shit was everywhere before she pressed "send."

-Janet, Randy, Jermaine, ect, you gotta let her speak with her granny.

I agree... I just think Paris reacted frantically because she could not get a hold of her grandmother (which is understandbale)but I guess everything had a spiral effect in this case. I do think she needs to get off twitter though even though she was right about some things.

Randy had no business tweeting the letter to the Estate PUBLICLY in the firs place. If Janet, Jermane, and Randy had an issue with the Estate than they should have professionally addressed them.

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The ONLY thing that Paris did was say that her grandmother did NOT have a stroke and that she hadn't heard from her in 10 days. There is no fucking excuse that ANYONE in this family, including Katherine, for not calling MINOR children who are in her custody. She is their GrandPARENT. I don't know of ANY parent who would go the fuck off and not tell their children WHERE they are and at least check on this. All of these bullshit EXCUSES don't make any damn sense and the Jackson Family Defenders know it. Paris is not the blame for this shit. Janet, Rebbie, Jermaine and Rebbie are. Tito with his weak ass went along with it, but now conveniently says he wants no part of it. Greedy Ass Motherfuckers,the whole lot of them. There is no way that I would have believed that people would defend this family and blame a child after it has beeen exposed what they are doing. Are people that damned stupid or gullible? I don't give a fuck how much you like Janet the rest of the Jacksons, what she and Randy, especially is wrong. How the fuck can anyone defend this family? These people insitigated this shit and now they are running scared because their asses have caught. These kids don't need to be with Katherine anymore because we see from video footage that Janet and Randy are fucking DANGEROUS. I truly wish that I would have been there and Janet would have tried to take a phone from me, she would have been picking up her teeth and face. Fucking cowards!

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Reply #75 posted 07/25/12 10:58pm

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Free2BMe said:

mjscarousal said:

I agree... I just think Paris reacted frantically because she could not get a hold of her grandmother (which is understandbale)but I guess everything had a spiral effect in this case. I do think she needs to get off twitter though even though she was right about some things.

Randy had no business tweeting the letter to the Estate PUBLICLY in the firs place. If Janet, Jermane, and Randy had an issue with the Estate than they should have professionally addressed them.

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The ONLY thing that Paris did was say that her grandmother did NOT have a stroke and that she hadn't heard from her in 10 days. There is no fucking excuse that ANYONE in this family, including Katherine, for not calling MINOR children who are in her custody. She is their GrandPARENT. I don't know of ANY parent who would go the fuck off and not tell their children WHERE they are and at least check on this. All of these bullshit EXCUSES don't make any damn sense and the Jackson Family Defenders know it. Paris is not the blame for this shit. Janet, Rebbie, Jermaine and Rebbie are. Tito with his weak ass went along with it, but now conveniently says he wants no part of it. Greedy Ass Motherfuckers,the whole lot of them. There is no way that I would have believed that people would defend this family and blame a child after it has beeen exposed what they are doing. Are people that damned stupid or gullible? I don't give a fuck how much you like Janet the rest of the Jacksons, what she and Randy, especially is wrong. How the fuck can anyone defend this family? These people insitigated this shit and now they are running scared because their asses have caught. These kids don't need to be with Katherine anymore because we see from video footage that Janet and Randy are fucking DANGEROUS. I truly wish that I would have been there and Janet would have tried to take a phone from me, she would have been picking up her teeth and face. Fucking cowards!

headbang YOU BETTA PREACH!!!! You are totally RIGHT ON with this post! clapping clapping clapping How some can defend and excuse the family's actions yet condemn and bash a concerned 14 year old girl... wacky disbelief

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Reply #76 posted 07/25/12 10:59pm

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KATHERINE JACKSON
Guardianship Ruling
"BASED ON LIES"

BREAKING NEWS
072512_katherine_jackson_nightline_launch_v2Katherine Jackson is challenging the court ruling that temporarily stripped her of guardianship of Michael Jackson's children -- and claiming she never wanted TJ Jackson to step into the role ... despite court documents stating otherwise.

In a taped segment for ABC's "Nightline" ... Katherine read prepared comments from a notebook, and said -- "Their ruling in court today was about the guardianship, and I think it was based on a bunch of lies. But I have a good idea who's doing that ... who's behind it."

Katherine went on to say she spoke to TJ last night and "told him it wasn't necessary for him to go down and sign up for guardianship, but I don't know who instructed him to do that ... 'cause he wanted me to come home before that happened."

It's a strange statement because Katherine seems to be acknowledging she knew TJ was going to file for guardianship ... but not before she got home.

In fact, as we reported earlier, TJ stated in court docs that Katherine "supported" him taking steps to protect Michael's kids.

The whole TV segment seemed almost like a hostage situation as Katherine was surrounded by Janet, Jermaine, Rebbie, Rebbie's daughter and, for some reason, the marketing director for the Tucson spa where Katherine's been for more than a week. A local news reporter was in the room, but was not allowed to ask questions.

As for leaving Prince, Paris, and Blanket alone in L.A. -- Katherine claimed she left instructions about who was to take care of them while she was gone ... though she didn't name anyone specifically.

The 82-year old also said during her absence her assistant had been keeping in touch with her grandchildren -- and that she didn't personally call "because I just gave up my phone. I didn't want to have any phone calls."

TJ JACKSON
Katherine WANTED ME
to Take the Kids

EXCLUSIVE DETAILS
0725_tj_katherine_jackson_getty_tmz
Katherine Jackson SUPPORTED TJ Jackson's efforts to obtain temporary guardianship of Michael Jackson's 3 children ... so says TJ in court docs obtained by TMZ.

TJ filed the docs with the court before today's hearing -- and in the papers, TJ claims Katherine was being manipulated by family members who were hellbent on controlling Katherine.

In fact, TJ claims one of his aunts -- either Janet or Rebbie -- arranged for a person to IMPERSONATE A DOCTOR to convince Katherine to blow off a concert series and instead fly with her conspiratorial children to Arizona.

TJ claims he had been assisting with the care of MJ's children since MJ died ... and even before Katherine disappeared, she placed them in his care.

According to the docs, TJ claims he finally spoke with Katherine on July 24 -- and during the conversation, she "indicated to me that she supported me in taking steps that I deemed appropriate to protect [MJ's children]."

TJ was eventually awarded temporary guardianship over Paris, Prince and Blanket.

After the hearing, Katherine contradicted TJ's story ... insisting she was "devastated" by the court's decision.

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Reply #77 posted 07/25/12 11:04pm

Free2BMe

musicology54 said:

NaughtyKitty said:

A simple phone call would have prevented this from spiraling out of control. It would've taken less than 30 seconds. Hi, I'm over here at [location] and will be here for a while. I'm well and doing fine. Say hello to everybody for me. Bye. A simple phone call and the guardianship wouldnt have been revoked and temporarily given to someone else. A simple phone call would have stopped the tweets from both Paris and Randy...a simple phone call and Marlon wouldnt have had to go on national TV all upset. A simple phone call, a simple phone call.....oh the wonders a little phone call can do!

This.

Exactly. This is the very reason that I say that this family is full of shit. All the excuses in the world does not negate what you said, Naughty Kitty. Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot. All Katherine had to do was to call and let the children hear HER voice and tell them she was alright. She didn't even have the decency to tell them that she was leaving. HTF is that alright? If she could sit and play UNO, she could have called these MINOR children, in HER custody, and let them know that she was alright. Katherine has said in EVERY interview that she has done that these kids-Paris, Prince and Blanket- are very well-behaved, good kids. For her or Janet or Randy or any of the other morons in that family to say otherwise NOW means that they are LIARS and can't be trusted. God, I hope that these children are taken from Katherine, she is not competent to have custody of them. It was disgusting behaviour to see Janet running up in Paris' face and trying to snatch her cell phone . Even more disgusting and cowardly were Janet and Randy in Paris face taking pictures of her with their cell phones. WTF? It seems that janet and Randy had a plan to take a photo of Paris getting upset and then sell those photos to a tabloid. Guess what, Paris walked past Janet, basically ignored her and walked into the house with her GROWN-UP aunt and uncle taunting and following her. What a bunch of fucking cowards!! Of coursea, the cowards had no way of knowing that the survelillance camera was recording their dirty actions. This just goes to show you how stupid and DESPERATE Janet and Co. are. These GRoWN-UPs will do anything to discredit a CHILD who didn't start this shit. These idiots did. It is fucking unbelieveable how these people are destroying themselves with their Greed, Ignorance and Cowardice!!!

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Reply #78 posted 07/25/12 11:10pm

musicology54

You just dropped a pipe bomb on their asses.

justFree2BMe said:



mjscarousal said:



LittleBlueCorvette said:



I think every deserves blame in this.



From Katherine to Paris to certain siblings.




-Katy, you gotta let the kiddos know where you are at.



-Paris, you can't say things on twitter like "I can't find my grandmother." You know who you are Paris, shit was everywhere before she pressed "send."



-Janet, Randy, Jermaine, ect, you gotta let her speak with her granny.




I agree... I just think Paris reacted frantically because she could not get a hold of her grandmother (which is understandbale)but I guess everything had a spiral effect in this case. I do think she needs to get off twitter though even though she was right about some things.



Randy had no business tweeting the letter to the Estate PUBLICLY in the firs place. If Janet, Jermane, and Randy had an issue with the Estate than they should have professionally addressed them.


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The ONLY thing that Paris did was say that her grandmother did NOT have a stroke and that she hadn't heard from her in 10 days. There is no fucking excuse that ANYONE in this family, including Katherine, for not calling MINOR children who are in her custody. She is their GrandPARENT. I don't know of ANY parent who would go the fuck off and not tell their children WHERE they are and at least check on this. All of these bullshit EXCUSES don't make any damn sense and the Jackson Family Defenders know it. Paris is not the blame for this shit. Janet, Rebbie, Jermaine and Rebbie are. Tito with his weak ass went along with it, but now conveniently says he wants no part of it. Greedy Ass Motherfuckers,the whole lot of them. There is no way that I would have believed that people would defend this family and blame a child after it has beeen exposed what they are doing. Are people that damned stupid or gullible? I don't give a fuck how much you like Janet the rest of the Jacksons, what she and Randy, especially is wrong. How the fuck can anyone defend this family? These people insitigated this shit and now they are running scared because their asses have caught. These kids don't need to be with Katherine anymore because we see from video footage that Janet and Randy are fucking DANGEROUS. I truly wish that I would have been there and Janet would have tried to take a phone from me, she would have been picking up her teeth and face. Fucking cowards!

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Reply #79 posted 07/25/12 11:14pm

Free2BMe

free2bfreeda said:

lazycrockett said:

You know it wasnt like Katy was raising those 3 kids in a one room shack by herself. Im sure there is a staff and nannies to help with the kid raising.

mental/emotional pressure. too many people coming at her at one time. eek

The main thing wrong with Katherine Jackson is GREED!

This greed from her and her children has caused ALL of these problems. It has shit to do with Michael's children.If Katherine and family hadn't been so greedy, they would have not sued AEG. AEG is not playing with Katherine and this family and their asses are running scared. All of this vacation shit is a diversion from Katherine getting deposed. Katherine filed suit for MONEY, not justice for Michael and it is biting her and the rest in the ass. AEG is deposing ALL of them and they can't stand it. "If you can't stand the heat, don't start a fire". These greedy MF'ers have "started a fire" and they can't handle it. The same with Janet, Randy, Rebbie, Titio and Jermaine drafting, signing and releasing that letter to the media, asking the executors to step down. This was all about money for THEM. These greedy bastards don't give a damn about the rightful heirs-Michael's chldren.

What is truly sad and embarrasing is that this stupid-ass family is saying that this will is "fake", yet, the other will from 1997 STILL did not leave THEM any money, except his mother, Katherine. Now, with this fiasco that THEY started, not Paris, they are subject to lose the money that even Katherine was getting from Michael's will. What an embarrassing and stupid family these people are. I have no use or respect for them.

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Reply #80 posted 07/25/12 11:20pm

Free2BMe

kibbles said:

lazycrockett said:

You know it wasnt like Katy was raising those 3 kids in a one room shack by herself. Im sure there is a staff and nannies to help with the kid raising.

that's not the point, is it? the point is paris called tried to call and no one would let her through. this is corrobated by her whiny bitch of a son, marlon. he couldn't get through to her, either.

the nannies aren't the guardians, kat is ... or used to be. you don't get to go sit in a room off to yourself when you're a parent for a week at a time without checking in. even i know that, and i can barely take care of my zebra finch, let alone a kid!

Thank you, you are so right. There are NO EXCUSES for what Katherine did. Btw, I agree with you about Marlon being a whiny bitch. Strange how he CLAIMS that he hasn't heard from his mother and has sat around and ALLOWED his neice to be berated by these cowardly Jackson Defenders. I wonder what the MF'ers are saying now that Katherine's OWN son is saying that he hasn't heard from her? Do I heard the defenders saying that Marlon is a liar? Hmmn, strangely queit from these fucking defenders. They wanted to lay the blame on a chld because it made their Jackson Family looked like the ignorant morons they are.

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Reply #81 posted 07/25/12 11:22pm

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Lets not forget that this is a mother who allowed her husband to basically beat their children.

The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything.
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Reply #82 posted 07/25/12 11:26pm

Free2BMe

musicology54 said:

You sound exactly like azz. Red said:

but it ISN'T that simple. Ever tried to take a relaxing bath in your home with two or more kids in the house? Know how many times they rap on the door...fighting, crying, whining? It can be bloody infuriating that you can't find a quiet corner of peace for an hour.

Sure she has staff - but who is holding the key to the bank vault? Gimme Gimme Gimme. SOMEONE did know where Katherine was and wanted her to have that time. Tell the children and Paris would have been calling Gramma constantly with " Randy won't let me do this. Janet won't let me do that."

I think Paris is one spoiled BRAT!

How is Paris spoiled just because she said that her Grandmother had not had a stroke? How is Paris spoiled just because she exposed YOUR favorite Jackson, Janet and her other idiot sibilings in their scam? How is Paris spoiled when she said that she had not heard from her GrandPARENT in 10 days? Is Marlon spoiled, since he is now crying like a bitch saying that HE has not heard from his own mother? You Jackson defenders need to make up your fucking minds and stop blaiming a child for what your favorite-Janet and others- fucked up. STOP BEING COWARDS and admit that Janet and her family are behind this mess and they were BUSTED!!

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Reply #83 posted 07/25/12 11:28pm

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I cross my fingers hoping that Debbie Rowe is going to enter this mess. biggrin

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Reply #84 posted 07/25/12 11:30pm

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SEANMAN said:

Michael was also close to Janet. He may not have seen her often, but they were close. He reached out to her during several pivotal moments in his life and career. He spoke via satellite at her MTV ICON show. She told Robin Roberts about their last conversation, a few days before he died, and that he sat across from her and they laughed like it was old times. It's so sad to me that people would think she is in any way, shape or form trying to steal and/or disrespect his legacy.

The occasion Janet was referring to was the huge family get together at Hayvenhurst for..Joe's birthday I think. Absolutely everybody was there and everybody was laughing and being reminded of old times. It would be a lovely last memory of MJ for Janet but not exactly an indicator of their closeness.

I've heard of some very specific stories that left me with the impression they were less than completely in sync at the end of MJ's life. Come to think of it, one had to do with a supposed "intervention". The details escape me it's been a long time but here's the gist of the story.

In 2008, the family was putting word out that MJ was uniting with the brothers for a tour. Janet was all for it, saying on record she was all for it and would join them as part of the tour. What was not mentioned in those interviews was that her Rock Witchu tour was being cancelled for poor sales and she was left with contract obligations with musicians and dancers that had to be honoured. In other words, she really really wanted this show to happen.

When MJ flat out denied that he would be joining them and when it was disclosed that MJ was set to get on board with AEG, the brothers and Janet showed up at MJ's doorstep without prior warning. After some bickering at the front door with security they were finally let in. Mike met with them and apparently tempers flared and voices were raised and...

Janet flew out of the room in a rage.

The brothers left the room as a group and after some time I think just Jackie and Jermaine? returned. Mike agreed that he would do a show with the family but only after his AEG shows were over and that was that. Nothing more to be said.

I'm not condemning Janet for some evil witch but I do think things in that family dynamics were a LOT more than complicated than meets the eye.

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Reply #85 posted 07/25/12 11:33pm

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Shard said:

Personally I feel Paris is not old enough to be on twitter-heck, A LOT of people twice or even three times her age are not mature enough to be on twitter and post all kinds of crazy things lol On the other hand, I understand why Paris uses twitter-it's her taste of freedom. She's had a very monitored and controlled life, so as any normal teen, she uses twitter to express herself. After this episode, I think she'll understand that she shouldn't be posting about family issues on a public forum.

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Maybe, she does need to be monitored. However, I am glad that she was able to communicate what was happening with these fuckers-Janet, Rebbie, Jermaine, Tito and Rebbie. I am glad that she said that she had not heard from her grandmother in 10 DAYS! If she had not communicated NONE of us would have known this and Janet and Co. would have been STILL perpetuating the lie about Katherine. It seems that Paris was correct, even Marlon is now claiming that he has not spoken to Katherine. Tito has jumped ship and saying that he wants no part of the letter that he signed along with Janet Rebbie, Randy and Jermaine. That should tell you Jackson Defenders something about your rashness in blaming Paris. Paris has shit to do with this situation other than concern for her grandmother. Your favorites, the Jacksons, are the reason for ALL of this crap.

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Reply #86 posted 07/25/12 11:39pm

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How come Paris is the only one acting out?

Haven't heard from Prince?

not taking any sided, but I know I would get in trouble had one of my aunts or uncles told me something and I didn't listen?

Prince is the one who told Randy and Janet that there were not going anywhere with them. This was after Randy and Janet tried to FORCE them to leave with them. Prince is VERY AWARE of what's going on. Btw, if I had a bitch-ass aunt like Janet and a bastard uncle like Randy, I wouldn't listen to a damn thing that they told me. How the fuck is Janet going to run up in a child's face and try to take away a cell phone and then start taking pictures of that child with her cellphone in order to frame her?

I hope that neither Paris, Prince or Blanket ever listens to these deceitful, jealous, greedy people ever again. I pray that they don't trust them because it truly seems as if Janet and the rest are on drugs or have lost their fucking minds.

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Reply #87 posted 07/25/12 11:47pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

We don't even know if she did tell them?

THe other kids have been quiet in this whole thing. Maybe Paris is just crying out for attention, we don't know everything yet. Kids tend to do that when they miss someone (father.)

Thats a good point. Im not denying Paris behavior. I thought it was disrespectful how she called out Randy... although it turns out he was in fact lying and I dont think she should be on twitter blasting the Jacksons business but I think this is result of her being confused on whats going on.

Randy insists Katherine is ill and Paris thinks she isnt and then she suddenly cant get a hold of her grandmother for more information. I dont agree with everything she has done but some of her reactions are understandable..

Paris tweeted that she still didnt hear from her grandmother I believe yesterday and it took for TJ to finally intervene. Its a possibility that Janet might have told her where she was.. Jermaine did tweet it publicly but she was still unable to get in contact with Katherine directly which she tweeted yesterday. All Im saying is how is Randy, Janet and Jermaine, REBBIE also are able to get contact with Katherine and not no one else EVEN MARLON??? That looks shady to me

Because Paris called Randy out on his LIE about his mother is the ONLY reason that we know about the scam that Randy, Janet and others were concocting. Thank God, she called him out. This sorry bastard is the lowest of the low. He DESERVED to be called out and he does NOT deserve resepct for what HE and the rest of his moronic siblings have caused. The thing everyone is forgetting is that EVERYTHING that Paris has said has turned out to be true. I knew that this family was greedy and low-calss; however, even I didn't know just how much of scum that they were to actually try to belittle and throw the blame on a CHILD for what THEY(adults) caused.

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Reply #88 posted 07/25/12 11:48pm

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I think Janet and the rest of the Jacksons showed their true colors when they put Paris on stage at the funeral and had to readjust the mic to make everyone hear Paris go on bout mj.

Then again Ive never been a fan of putting kids on stage and asking them to perform.

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Reply #89 posted 07/25/12 11:53pm

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SEANMAN said:

mjscarousal said:

Huh?

I already said that it was unethical for him to be using Propofol to go to sleep but that doesnt make him an addict when that is a anesthia and you cant get addicted to it being you dont get any sensation from it.

Janet was referring to PRESCIPTION PILLS MEDICATION with the reason why he died which is FALSE. There were NO PRESCRIPTIONS found in his body... he passed away because he was overdosed on Profopol which was negligently adminstered to him by the hands of someone else regardless if he wanted it or not........period.

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disbelief Janet addressed the fact that Michael needed an intervention. Period. He was an addict. Have you ever seen his slurry interviews? Did you hear that horribly sad tape that was played during Dr. Murray's trial? He wasn't just an insomniac addicted to Propofol--he was on some other shit as well. She simply told the truth, and it is that truth that his fans cannot handle. Michael had been addicted to those pain pills ever since his scalp was burned in the 80s.

Janet didn't even say that her heroin-addicted husbands Rene AND James Debarge needed an intervention. How in the fuck is this bitch going to claim that her brother needed an intervetion when her ass was badgering him to do a tour with her brothers? This bitch even said that she didn't take part in the interventions however, "someone told her". Why did this lowclass heifer wait until her brother was murdered to insinuate that he was an "addict"? The answer is that she is a jealous coward. There is not any amount of money that Michael would have taken to do what she did. It just goes to show what a snake that she is. According to the autopsy, Michael was NOT an addiact. He had no drugs in his body except what the murderer gave him. No, Janet did NOT tell the truth. SHe is a LIAR.

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