dag said:

dag said:

Marlon Jackson5 ‏@Marlon_Jackson

my mom is home she look and sound great.

Free2BMe said:

NaughtyKitty said:

KATHERINE JACKSON
Guardianship Ruling
"BASED ON LIES"

BREAKING NEWS

Katherine Jackson is challenging the court ruling that temporarily stripped her of guardianship of Michael Jackson's children -- and claiming she never wanted TJ Jackson to step into the role ... despite court documents stating otherwise.

In a taped segment for ABC's "Nightline" ... Katherine read prepared comments from a notebook, and said -- "Their ruling in court today was about the guardianship, and I think it was based on a bunch of lies. But I have a good idea who's doing that ... who's behind it."

Katherine went on to say she spoke to TJ last night and "told him it wasn't necessary for him to go down and sign up for guardianship, but I don't know who instructed him to do that ... 'cause he wanted me to come home before that happened."

It's a strange statement because Katherine seems to be acknowledging she knew TJ was going to file for guardianship ... but not before she got home.

In fact, as we reported earlier, TJ stated in court docs that Katherine "supported" him taking steps to protect Michael's kids.

The whole TV segment seemed almost like a hostage situation as Katherine was surrounded by Janet, Jermaine, Rebbie, Rebbie's daughter and, for some reason, the marketing director for the Tucson spa where Katherine's been for more than a week. A local news reporter was in the room, but was not allowed to ask questions.

As for leaving Prince, Paris, and Blanket alone in L.A. -- Katherine claimed she left instructions about who was to take care of them while she was gone ... though she didn't name anyone specifically.

The 82-year old also said during her absence her assistant had been keeping in touch with her grandchildren -- and that she didn't personally call "because I just gave up my phone. I didn't want to have any phone calls."

TJ JACKSON
Katherine WANTED ME
to Take the Kids

EXCLUSIVE DETAILS

Katherine Jackson SUPPORTED TJ Jackson's efforts to obtain temporary guardianship of Michael Jackson's 3 children ... so says TJ in court docs obtained by TMZ.

TJ filed the docs with the court before today's hearing -- and in the papers, TJ claims Katherine was being manipulated by family members who were hellbent on controlling Katherine.

In fact, TJ claims one of his aunts -- either Janet or Rebbie -- arranged for a person to IMPERSONATE A DOCTOR to convince Katherine to blow off a concert series and instead fly with her conspiratorial children to Arizona.

TJ claims he had been assisting with the care of MJ's children since MJ died ... and even before Katherine disappeared, she placed them in his care.

According to the docs, TJ claims he finally spoke with Katherine on July 24 -- and during the conversation, she "indicated to me that she supported me in taking steps that I deemed appropriate to protect [MJ's children]."

TJ was eventually awarded temporary guardianship over Paris, Prince and Blanket.

After the hearing, Katherine contradicted TJ's story ... insisting she was "devastated" by the court's decision.

This is an embarrassment. Either Katherine is going along with this shit and doesn't give a damn about her grandkids or Janet, Randy, Rebbie and Jermaine are FORCING her to say what she READ. From looking at Janet and Jermaine they look scared as hell and KNOW that they are in DEEP SHIT! Rebbie looks like a damn Stepford Wife. Can't stand her either. Sneaky witch.

Janet does not look scared.

She looks upset and pissed off! Reebie looks like she is in tears, and Jermaine looks frustrated.

I'm glad that the lies have been proved wrong - and that Katherine is home and is fine.

Those rumours will be laughable within in a few weeks - if they aren't already.

[Edited 7/26/12 3:20am]

bboy87 said:

Ottensen said:

Wait, which one is that? It's getting hard to keep track

Auntie Ottie! To think I decide to end my Org hiatus and I come back to this This needs to get resolved soon

I was hoping you'd show up during all of this!!!

Beyond that, hot much more of a putrid hot mess can this become?

SoulAlive said:

from reading these letters (and comments posted on other sites),it seems that alot people think that Katherine's own children "kidnapped" her She denies this and maybe it wasn't an actual "kidnapping",but it does seem like maybe they 'coaxed' her out of her home for awhile.Notice how,when she was gone,that's when the letter was sent out to the media and that's when Janet and Randy went to the home and tried to get MJ's kids to go with them.They waited until after Katherine was gone to put their plan into motion.

I don't know....it just seems odd that everything suddenly got crazy once Katherine was out of town "let's send mother away and then we can start our plan"

Who agrees?

Katherine said:

"Assistant has been calling home and was told everything is going fine." But at the same time she knew from TJ that her guardianship might be taken away from her. "TJ wanted me to come before that happens." Why didn't she hurry home? And if you are told that your guardianship might be suspended then how can things be OK especially when at the same time she says "Someone have let go the nanny, the cook and the housekeepers"?

"I am thinking about the children, I worry about them, but they're fine." - Why worry if they are fine.

"Ruling was based on a bunch of lies." - Then why didn't Jermaine, Randy, Janet and others step in and tell the judge the truth? Why didn't they inform her about what's going on and haven't put her on the first plane? How long can a flight from Arizona to California take? Or did they really think that the extra day of "rest" was better for her than being "devastated" a day later that she lost the guardianship and go through legal battles to get them back?

At 2:46 - 2:50 it may be just me seeing things, but Katherine looks scared.

[Edited 7/26/12 4:21am]

MJ fans' have a flagrant disregard of reality.

Of course she is scared, she is on the verge of losing her grandchildren.

[Edited 7/26/12 4:33am]

Azz said:

Free2BMe said:

This is an embarrassment. Either Katherine is going along with this shit and doesn't give a damn about her grandkids or Janet, Randy, Rebbie and Jermaine are FORCING her to say what she READ. From looking at Janet and Jermaine they look scared as hell and KNOW that they are in DEEP SHIT! Rebbie looks like a damn Stepford Wife. Can't stand her either. Sneaky witch.

Janet does not look scared.

She looks upset and pissed off! Reebie looks like she is in tears, and Jermaine looks frustrated.

I'm glad that the lies have been proved wrong - and that Katherine is home and is fine.

Those rumours will be laughable within in a few weeks - if they aren't already.

[Edited 7/26/12 3:20am]

OF course, Katherine was resting and Janet, Randy, Rebbie and Jermaine were just watching her losing custody without doing anything to stop it because they had her best interests at heart. Yeah, losing the custody and going through legal battles is definately the best interest for katherine.

BTW Prince has just broken his silence.

I would first like to start off this tweet by thanking the fans that have always stood by me and my family, my dad really appreciated your support and I still treasure it to this day. As I am sure everyone is well aware of the events that have been going on. I have been holding off on backing up my sister and her tweets avidly because I was waiting for the time to reveal my side. As long as I can remember my dad had repeatedly warned me of certain people and their ways. Although I am happy my grandma was returned, after speaking with her I realized how misguided and how badly she was lied to. I’m really angry and hurt. The following image is of a group chat I had started to several family members. This group text message I had started was replied to but they didn’t know that I could see the responses. For this whole time, they denied us contact to our grandmother. “If you continue with your lies I will continue with the truth”

-Michael Jackson Jr.

And he posted this.

https://twitter.com/princemjjjaxon/status/228452630400225280/photo/1

[Edited 7/26/12 4:42am]

prince jackson in twitter :

I would first like to start off this tweet by thanking the fans that have always stood by me and my family, my dad really appreciated your support and I still treasure it to this day. As I am sure everyone is well aware of the events that have been going on. I have been holding off on backing up my sister and her tweets avidly because I was waiting for the time to reveal my side. As long as I can remember my dad had repeatedly warned me of certain people and their ways. Although I am happy my grandma was returned, after speaking with her I realized how misguided and how badly she was lied to. I’m really angry and hurt. The following image is of a group chat I had started to several family members. This group text message I had started was replied to but they didn’t know that I could see the responses. For this whole time, they denied us contact to our grandmother. “If you continue with your lies I will continue with the truth”

-Michael Jackson Jr.
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This shit is just a whole whirlwind of confusion and bullshit.

#1: If Katherine was knowingly going to stay at Rebbie's house...then I'm almost certain that she would had told the kids that. Therefore, either she was forced to go or was lured to go to Rebbie's house in a haste. I just don't understand why no one told the grandkids anything. Rebbie got a phone, somebody in that house got a phone, why didn't anyone call the grandkids to inform them???

#2: Somebody needs to teach them kids to stay off of social networking sites when they are strongly concerned about family members/family issues.

#3: Somebody needs to teach the adults to stay off of social networking sites when they are strongly concerned about family issues going on AND to defend accusations.

#4: Somebody is lying and full of shit. Somebody is covering up something. Don't know what it is, can't say that I care, just tired of hearing about it on the news.

That.is.all

claudiax said:

prince jackson in twitter :

I would first like to start off this tweet by thanking the fans that have always stood by me and my family, my dad really appreciated your support and I still treasure it to this day. As I am sure everyone is well aware of the events that have been going on. I have been holding off on backing up my sister and her tweets avidly because I was waiting for the time to reveal my side. As long as I can remember my dad had repeatedly warned me of certain people and their ways. Although I am happy my grandma was returned, after speaking with her I realized how misguided and how badly she was lied to. I’m really angry and hurt. The following image is of a group chat I had started to several family members. This group text message I had started was replied to but they didn’t know that I could see the responses. For this whole time, they denied us contact to our grandmother. “If you continue with your lies I will continue with the truth”

-Michael Jackson Jr.
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Unbelievable Notice the message from Janet.

claudiax said:

prince jackson in twitter :

I would first like to start off this tweet by thanking the fans that have always stood by me and my family, my dad really appreciated your support and I still treasure it to this day. As I am sure everyone is well aware of the events that have been going on. I have been holding off on backing up my sister and her tweets avidly because I was waiting for the time to reveal my side. As long as I can remember my dad had repeatedly warned me of certain people and their ways. Although I am happy my grandma was returned, after speaking with her I realized how misguided and how badly she was lied to. I’m really angry and hurt. The following image is of a group chat I had started to several family members. This group text message I had started was replied to but they didn’t know that I could see the responses. For this whole time, they denied us contact to our grandmother. “If you continue with your lies I will continue with the truth”

-Michael Jackson Jr.
http://tl.gd/ihkq3p · Reply

Okay so what the fuck is going on? What is this plan with separating the grandmother from the kids? Urgh. Them damn Jacksons, I swear.

missfee said:

Somebody needs to teach them kids to stay off of social networking sites when they are strongly concerned about family members/family issues.

I disagree.I think it's smart for the youngsters to expose everything.Expose the lies,the cover-up,and the scheming.These kids are being manipulated and lied to,and it's time for the so-called "adults" to be held accountable.

SoulAlive said:

missfee said:

Somebody needs to teach them kids to stay off of social networking sites when they are strongly concerned about family members/family issues.

I disagree.I think it's smart for the youngsters to expose everything.Expose the lies,the cover-up,and the scheming.These kids are being manipulated and lied to,and it's time for the so-called "adults" to be held accountable.

Yeah, I agree with SoulAlive. I think that Paris tweets too much about random stuff and that it may not be necessary and good in the long run, but in this situation, it's great that they are able to fight for themselves.

Prince is sure the quiet force.

dag said:

Azz said:

Janet does not look scared.

She looks upset and pissed off! Reebie looks like she is in tears, and Jermaine looks frustrated.

I'm glad that the lies have been proved wrong - and that Katherine is home and is fine.

Those rumours will be laughable within in a few weeks - if they aren't already.

[Edited 7/26/12 3:20am]

OF course, Katherine was resting and Janet, Randy, Rebbie and Jermaine were just watching her losing custody without doing anything to stop it because they had her best interests at heart. Yeah, losing the custody and going through legal battles is definately the best interest for katherine.

No! TJ did not have Katherine's best interests at heart. He asked Katherine and she repeatedly said no.

Marlon himself said Katherine looked and sounded fine, so TJ lied about her 'incoherence'.

missfee said:

claudiax said:

prince jackson in twitter :

I would first like to start off this tweet by thanking the fans that have always stood by me and my family, my dad really appreciated your support and I still treasure it to this day. As I am sure everyone is well aware of the events that have been going on. I have been holding off on backing up my sister and her tweets avidly because I was waiting for the time to reveal my side. As long as I can remember my dad had repeatedly warned me of certain people and their ways. Although I am happy my grandma was returned, after speaking with her I realized how misguided and how badly she was lied to. I’m really angry and hurt. The following image is of a group chat I had started to several family members. This group text message I had started was replied to but they didn’t know that I could see the responses. For this whole time, they denied us contact to our grandmother. “If you continue with your lies I will continue with the truth”

-Michael Jackson Jr.
http://tl.gd/ihkq3p · Reply

Okay so what the fuck is going on? What is this plan with separating the grandmother from the kids? Urgh. Them damn Jacksons, I swear.

They photoshoped 'Janet Jackson'. I have an iPhone and it doesn't work/look like that.

Why does he have Janet saved as Janet Jackson. And why are there two contacts with 'Janet Jackson', you can't do that on an iPhone

That aside, Janet's comment doesn't even make sense. She replied to Prince 'Don't let them pls'. That reply doesnt even make sense.

[Edited 7/26/12 5:09am]

I feel so bad for Katherine She doesn't deserve this.Several years ago,her son passed away and now she has to deal with the rest of her family going around,acting like scheming criminals and now she has lost custody of her grandkids.It's all so unfair.Considering all she has done for the entire family,this is the 'thanks' that she gets??!!

Azz said:

dag said:

OF course, Katherine was resting and Janet, Randy, Rebbie and Jermaine were just watching her losing custody without doing anything to stop it because they had her best interests at heart. Yeah, losing the custody and going through legal battles is definately the best interest for katherine.

No! TJ did not have Katherine's best interests at heart. He asked Katherine and she repeatedly said no.

Marlon himself said Katherine looked and sounded fine, so TJ lied about her 'incoherence'.

Oh really? You have obviously missed these tweets from him. At the time TJ said she was incoherent, he was not the only one.

Azz said:

They photoshoped 'Janet Jackson'. I have an iPhone and it doesn't work/look like that.

Why does he have Janet saved as Janet Jackson. And why are there two contacts with 'Janet Jackson', you can't do that on an iPhone

There you go again,bending over backwards to discredit the children and make it appear that they're lying/exaggerating.

Azz said:

missfee said:

Okay so what the fuck is going on? What is this plan with separating the grandmother from the kids? Urgh. Them damn Jacksons, I swear.

They photoshoped 'Janet Jackson'. I have an iPhone and it doesn't work/look like that.

Why does he have Janet saved as Janet Jackson. And why are there two contacts with 'Janet Jackson', you can't do that on an iPhone

That aside, Janet's comment doesn't even make sense. She replied to Prince 'Don't let them pls'. That reply doesnt even make sense.

[Edited 7/26/12 5:09am]

YOu have probably missed this part of Prince's tweet.

I would first like to start off this tweet by thanking the fans that have always stood by me and my family, my dad really appreciated your support and I still treasure it to this day. As I am sure everyone is well aware of the events that have been going on. I have been holding off on backing up my sister and her tweets avidly because I was waiting for the time to reveal my side. As long as I can remember my dad had repeatedly warned me of certain people and their ways. Although I am happy my grandma was returned, after speaking with her I realized how misguided and how badly she was lied to. I’m really angry and hurt. The following image is of a group chat I had started to several family members. This group text message I had started was replied to but they didn’t know that I could see the responses. For this whole time, they denied us contact to our grandmother. “If you continue with your lies I will continue with the truth”

SoulAlive said:

Azz said:

They photoshoped 'Janet Jackson'. I have an iPhone and it doesn't work/look like that.

Why does he have Janet saved as Janet Jackson. And why are there two contacts with 'Janet Jackson', you can't do that on an iPhone

There you go again,bending over backwards to discredit the children and make it appear that they're lying/exaggerating.

Soon, he' ll start claiming that Prince does it also to get attention and that he's a spoiled brat.

Why would Prince lie about that? What could he gain from that?

SoulAlive said:

Azz said:

They photoshoped 'Janet Jackson'. I have an iPhone and it doesn't work/look like that.

Why does he have Janet saved as Janet Jackson. And why are there two contacts with 'Janet Jackson', you can't do that on an iPhone

There you go again,bending over backwards to discredit the children and make it appear that they're lying/exaggerating.

Well... the 'Janet Jackson' above the message 'Don't tell them pls' is photshopped. Show me evidence which proves the rest wasn't tampered with.

Not to mention, that reply makes no sense.

Even if it is real, you can't just so one small part of what seems to be a long conversation.

dag said:

Azz said:

They photoshoped 'Janet Jackson'. I have an iPhone and it doesn't work/look like that.

Why does he have Janet saved as Janet Jackson. And why are there two contacts with 'Janet Jackson', you can't do that on an iPhone

That aside, Janet's comment doesn't even make sense. She replied to Prince 'Don't let them pls'. That reply doesnt even make sense.

[Edited 7/26/12 5:09am]

YOu have probably missed this part of Prince's tweet.

I would first like to start off this tweet by thanking the fans that have always stood by me and my family, my dad really appreciated your support and I still treasure it to this day. As I am sure everyone is well aware of the events that have been going on. I have been holding off on backing up my sister and her tweets avidly because I was waiting for the time to reveal my side. As long as I can remember my dad had repeatedly warned me of certain people and their ways. Although I am happy my grandma was returned, after speaking with her I realized how misguided and how badly she was lied to. I’m really angry and hurt. The following image is of a group chat I had started to several family members. This group text message I had started was replied to but they didn’t know that I could see the responses. For this whole time, they denied us contact to our grandmother. “If you continue with your lies I will continue with the truth”

'But they didn't know that I could see the responses'

He sent the first text and started the group chat. That doesn't even make sense - there is no way that they didn't know he could see the responses.

Unless, Janet Jackson, Janet Jackson, Austin Jackson, & Auntie Reebie are completely retarded and don't know how to use basic technology. Seeing as Austin is young - I highly doubt that.

SoulAlive said:

missfee said:

Somebody needs to teach them kids to stay off of social networking sites when they are strongly concerned about family members/family issues.

I disagree.I think it's smart for the youngsters to expose everything.Expose the lies,the cover-up,and the scheming.These kids are being manipulated and lied to,and it's time for the so-called "adults" to be held accountable.

Amen! Amen! Amen!

As crazy as this shit has already become, I am honestly afraid to think of what might have gone on had Paris not been making it public.

SoulAlive said:

missfee said:

Somebody needs to teach them kids to stay off of social networking sites when they are strongly concerned about family members/family issues.

I disagree.I think it's smart for the youngsters to expose everything.Expose the lies,the cover-up,and the scheming.These kids are being manipulated and lied to,and it's time for the so-called "adults" to be held accountable.

So it should be acceptable for the youngsters to put their family on blast in the media and contribute to the circus that the adults have created? Naw I don't think that's smart at all. It makes them look just as silly as the adults. All of this is just pointless and unnecessary. I really don't give a fuck about the crazy dumb shit they do in their family, they should keep it private. What do we care? If something really did happen, were any of you going to jump on a plane and come to Paris' and the other kids rescue? I think not. Just saying there are more important things in the news these days that the Jacksons bullshit circus of family issues. Done.

[Edited 7/26/12 5:19am]

missfee said:

SoulAlive said:

I disagree.I think it's smart for the youngsters to expose everything.Expose the lies,the cover-up,and the scheming.These kids are being manipulated and lied to,and it's time for the so-called "adults" to be held accountable.

So it should be acceptable for the youngsters to put their family on blast in the media and contribute to the circus that the adults have created? Naw I don't think that's smart at all. It makes them look just as silly as the adults. All of this is just pointless and unnecessary. I really don't give a fuck about the crazy dumb shit they do in their family, they should keep it private. What do we care? If something really did happen, were any of you going to jump on a plane and come to Paris' and the other kids rescue? I think not. Just saying there are more important things in the news these days that the Jacksons bullshit circus of family issues. Done.

[Edited 7/26/12 5:19am]

Exactly. Why are they Tweeting? Why not just speak to your family members?

Once again, MJ fans have a flagrant disregard of reality.

missfee said:

SoulAlive said:

I disagree.I think it's smart for the youngsters to expose everything.Expose the lies,the cover-up,and the scheming.These kids are being manipulated and lied to,and it's time for the so-called "adults" to be held accountable.

So it should be acceptable for the youngsters to put their family on blast in the media and contribute to the circus that the adults have created? Naw I don't think that's smart at all. It makes them look just as silly as the adults.

[Edited 7/26/12 5:17am]

Considering how that seems to be the only effective way of dealing with this particular circus of adults...the answer is YES!!!!

dag said:

SoulAlive said:

There you go again,bending over backwards to discredit the children and make it appear that they're lying/exaggerating.

Soon, he' ll start claiming that Prince does it also to get attention and that he's a spoiled brat.

Why would Prince lie about that? What could he gain from that?

Why did Paris lie on Twitter. What did she hope to gain from it?

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

SoulAlive said:

I disagree.I think it's smart for the youngsters to expose everything.Expose the lies,the cover-up,and the scheming.These kids are being manipulated and lied to,and it's time for the so-called "adults" to be held accountable.

Amen! Amen! Amen!

As crazy as this shit has already become, I am honestly afraid to think of what might have gone on had Paris not been making it public.

when you're dealing with shady people,it's a good thing to document their every move.

Azz said:

missfee said:

So it should be acceptable for the youngsters to put their family on blast in the media and contribute to the circus that the adults have created? Naw I don't think that's smart at all. It makes them look just as silly as the adults. All of this is just pointless and unnecessary. I really don't give a fuck about the crazy dumb shit they do in their family, they should keep it private. What do we care? If something really did happen, were any of you going to jump on a plane and come to Paris' and the other kids rescue? I think not. Just saying there are more important things in the news these days that the Jacksons bullshit circus of family issues. Done.

Exactly. Why are they Tweeting? Why not just speak to your family members?

Once again, MJ fans have a flagrant disregard of reality.

You should be asking the adults that question! They're the ones who are keeping secrets and not letting the children know what's going on.