Azz said:

dag said:

Soon, he' ll start claiming that Prince does it also to get attention and that he's a spoiled brat.

Why would Prince lie about that? What could he gain from that?

Why did Paris lie on Twitter. What did she hope to gain from it?

You keep claiming that she lied. What exactly did she lie about?

SoulAlive said:

Azz said:

Exactly. Why are they Tweeting? Why not just speak to your family members?

Once again, MJ fans have a flagrant disregard of reality.

You should be asking the adults that question! They're the ones who are keeping secrets and not letting the children know what's going on.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Azz said:

Why did Paris lie on Twitter. What did she hope to gain from it?

You keep claiming that she lied. What exactly did she lie about?

She stated that her grandmother did not have a stroke and that she was not ill. Which was false because Paris had not seen her grandmother for days - so she could not have possibly known.

She stated that her grandmother was missing, when Katherine wasn't missing at all.

Azz said:

SoulAlive said:

There you go again,bending over backwards to discredit the children and make it appear that they're lying/exaggerating.

Well... the 'Janet Jackson' above the message 'Don't tell them pls' is photshopped. Show me evidence which proves the rest wasn't tampered with.

Not to mention, that reply makes no sense.

Even if it is real, you can't just so one small part of what seems to be a long conversation.

Makes no sense? The date is 23. June - Monday when Janet and the others came to the house and tried to take away Paris' phone and take them to see grandmother. Prince demanded that those people who are either with Katherine or want to take them to see her let them speak to her. Janet was probably texting Rebbie who was with Katherine at that time to "not let her speak with them". Makes perfect sense to me.

Azz said:

missfee said:

So it should be acceptable for the youngsters to put their family on blast in the media and contribute to the circus that the adults have created? Naw I don't think that's smart at all. It makes them look just as silly as the adults. All of this is just pointless and unnecessary. I really don't give a fuck about the crazy dumb shit they do in their family, they should keep it private. What do we care? If something really did happen, were any of you going to jump on a plane and come to Paris' and the other kids rescue? I think not. Just saying there are more important things in the news these days that the Jacksons bullshit circus of family issues. Done.

[Edited 7/26/12 5:19am]

Exactly. Why are they Tweeting? Why not just speak to your family members?

Once again, MJ fans have a flagrant disregard of reality.

Apparantly because those family members wouldn't talk to them!

Azz said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

You keep claiming that she lied. What exactly did she lie about?

She stated that her grandmother did not have a stroke and that she was not ill. Which was false because Paris had not seen her grandmother for days - so she could not have possibly known.

She stated that her grandmother was missing, when Katherine wasn't missing at all.

No, she wasn't missing. Only half of the family had no idea where she was like Marlon for example who was crying while saying these words.

dag said:

Azz said:

Well... the 'Janet Jackson' above the message 'Don't tell them pls' is photshopped. Show me evidence which proves the rest wasn't tampered with.

Not to mention, that reply makes no sense.

Even if it is real, you can't just so one small part of what seems to be a long conversation.

Makes no sense? The date is 23. June - Monday when Janet and the others came to the house and tried to take away Paris' phone and take them to see grandmother. Prince demanded that those people who are either with Katherine or want to take them to see her let them speak to her. Janet was probably texting Rebbie who was with Katherine at that time to "not let her speak with them". Makes perfect sense to me.

What are you talking about.

I'm talking about the conversation. Why would Janet reply to Prince saying 'Don't let them pls'. It doesn't make any sense. She is talking to someone else about him even though he was the one who sent the text. It doesn't make sense.

[Edited 7/26/12 5:37am]

dag said:

Azz said:

She stated that her grandmother did not have a stroke and that she was not ill. Which was false because Paris had not seen her grandmother for days - so she could not have possibly known.

She stated that her grandmother was missing, when Katherine wasn't missing at all.

No, she wasn't missing. Only half of the family had no idea where she was like Marlon for example who was crying while saying these words.

Katherine said she was in touch with the house the whole time via her assistant.

dag said:

Azz said:

Exactly. Why are they Tweeting? Why not just speak to your family members?

Once again, MJ fans have a flagrant disregard of reality.

Apparantly because those family members wouldn't talk to them!

False! According to Prince's picture, he was in contact with the siblings aswell as others.

There is no one in the family called Austin Jackson either.

There is an Austin Brown however. Is this child a retard or is the whole thing completely manipulated and fabricated?

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

SoulAlive said:

I disagree.I think it's smart for the youngsters to expose everything.Expose the lies,the cover-up,and the scheming.These kids are being manipulated and lied to,and it's time for the so-called "adults" to be held accountable.

Amen! Amen! Amen!

As crazy as this shit has already become, I am honestly afraid to think of what might have gone on had Paris not been making it public.

Agreed.

Azz said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

You keep claiming that she lied. What exactly did she lie about?

She stated that her grandmother did not have a stroke and that she was not ill. Which was false because Paris had not seen her grandmother for days - so she could not have possibly known.

She stated that her grandmother was missing, when Katherine wasn't missing at all.

Oh, ok.

In regards to the mini-stroke...

Apparently Katherine's lawyer lied to CNN.

http://www.radaronline.co...-executors

As we previously reported, several media outlets obtained a letter allegedly from Janet, Rebie, Tito, Randy, and Jermaine Jackson demanding that the Jackson Estate executors John Branca and John McClain resign immediately because they (the Jackson siblings) believe that the late singer's will was a fake. This comes after three failed legal challenges in the matter already. The letter also alleged that Katherine Jackson was in bad health and had recently suffered a mini-stroke. Katherine's lawyer told CNN she is in good health and did not suffer a mini-stroke.

And Jermaine lied, too.

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In regards to Katherine not being missing at all...

Apparently this whole performance was a bald faced lie.

And so were these...

Marlon later Tweeted that Katherine looked and sounded fine.

Stop picking aspects which favour your argument.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Azz said:

Oh, ok.

In regards to the mini-stroke...

Apparently Katherine's lawyer lied to CNN.

http://www.radaronline.co...-executors

As we previously reported, several media outlets obtained a letter allegedly from Janet, Rebie, Tito, Randy, and Jermaine Jackson demanding that the Jackson Estate executors John Branca and John McClain resign immediately because they (the Jackson siblings) believe that the late singer's will was a fake. This comes after three failed legal challenges in the matter already. The letter also alleged that Katherine Jackson was in bad health and had recently suffered a mini-stroke. Katherine's lawyer told CNN she is in good health and did not suffer a mini-stroke.

And Jermaine lied, too.

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In regards to Katherine not being missing at all...

Apparently this whole performance was a bald faced lie.

And so were these...

I think the big question now is....what happens next? After all the lies,misinformation,confusion,scheming,contradictory statements,accusations and bad feelings.....where does this family go from here? Will they even still be a "family" after all this?

Azz said:

Marlon later Tweeted that Katherine looked and sounded fine.

Stop picking aspects which favour your argument.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I'm not arguing. I asked you what did Paris lie about and you stated Katherine's mini stroke and her being missing.

I'm simply showing that Paris isn't the one doing the lying.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Azz said:

Marlon later Tweeted that Katherine looked and sounded fine.

Stop picking aspects which favour your argument.

I'm not arguing. I asked you what did Paris lie about and you stated Katherine's mini stroke and her being missing.

I'm simply showing that Paris isn't the one doing the lying.

I'm not saying your arguing. By argument I simply meant your case.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Should Paris have a twitter?

Yes or No?

TBDH, the entire Jackson Family needs to have their Twitter AND Facebook accounts deleted. Seriously!

NaughtyKitty said:

A simple phone call would have prevented this from spiraling out of control. It would've taken less than 30 seconds. Hi, I'm over here at [location] and will be here for a while. I'm well and doing fine. Say hello to everybody for me. Bye. A simple phone call and the guardianship wouldnt have been revoked and temporarily given to someone else. A simple phone call would have stopped the tweets from both Paris and Randy...a simple phone call and Marlon wouldnt have had to go on national TV all upset. A simple phone call, a simple phone call.....oh the wonders a little phone call can do!

All of THAT^ plus telling the grandchildren "I love you" would've help as well.

Thank goodness TJ had that right when he told Paris those three words.

SoulAlive said:

I think the big question now is....what happens next? After all the lies,misinformation,confusion,scheming,contradictory statements,accusations and bad feelings.....where does this family go from here? Will they even still be a "family" after all this?

Sadly, I think it's only going to get worse.

I just really hope and pray that TJ is on the up and up, not apart of the rest of his family's foolishness and truly has those children's best interest at heart because the timing of PapaTito's sudden about face on that letter shit, does make me go

TonyVanDam said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Should Paris have a twitter?

Yes or No?

TBDH, the entire Jackson Family needs to have their Twitter AND Facebook accounts deleted. Seriously!

Not all of them.

Janet's and Latoya's are fine.

luv4u said:

This could take a toll on Katherine's health ..... even kill her.

.......and then Joseph will finally get his hands on the life insurance money.

claudiax said:

prince jackson in twitter :

I would first like to start off this tweet by thanking the fans that have always stood by me and my family, my dad really appreciated your support and I still treasure it to this day. As I am sure everyone is well aware of the events that have been going on. I have been holding off on backing up my sister and her tweets avidly because I was waiting for the time to reveal my side. As long as I can remember my dad had repeatedly warned me of certain people and their ways. Although I am happy my grandma was returned, after speaking with her I realized how misguided and how badly she was lied to. I’m really angry and hurt. The following image is of a group chat I had started to several family members. This group text message I had started was replied to but they didn’t know that I could see the responses. For this whole time, they denied us contact to our grandmother. “If you continue with your lies I will continue with the truth”

-Michael Jackson Jr.
http://tl.gd/ihkq3p · Reply

Remember back at the original thread I posted twice that Janet's dark side has been creeping out?

Well never mind the "creeping" part, Janet IS evil. And it's a damn shame that Prince Michael had to see this for himself before saving the text to show the whole world.

TonyVanDam said:

.......and then Joseph will finally get his hands on the life insurance money.

I wish all the best for Ms. Katherine's health and well being, but Sweet for him. Say what you want about Joseph, but the man is straightforward. He may be predatory, but you gonna see him coming. It is starting to seem to me that Joe has some sketchy qualities, as we all do, but his have been blown out of proportion to serve the needs of the blowers over the years. He is, after all, an easy target. And no, Michael and his wonderous talent may well not have gotten outside of Lake County without that man.

All the around the corner gaminess being revealed in this situation eminated from and surrounded and could have been cut the f off by one source, and that were not Joe.

Azz said:

dag said:

Makes no sense? The date is 23. June - Monday when Janet and the others came to the house and tried to take away Paris' phone and take them to see grandmother. Prince demanded that those people who are either with Katherine or want to take them to see her let them speak to her. Janet was probably texting Rebbie who was with Katherine at that time to "not let her speak with them". Makes perfect sense to me.

What are you talking about.

I'm talking about the conversation. Why would Janet reply to Prince saying 'Don't let them pls'. It doesn't make any sense. She is talking to someone else about him even though he was the one who sent the text. It doesn't make sense.

[Edited 7/26/12 5:37am]

It wasn't her reply to Prince, obviously.

TonyVanDam said:

claudiax said:

prince jackson in twitter :

I would first like to start off this tweet by thanking the fans that have always stood by me and my family, my dad really appreciated your support and I still treasure it to this day. As I am sure everyone is well aware of the events that have been going on. I have been holding off on backing up my sister and her tweets avidly because I was waiting for the time to reveal my side. As long as I can remember my dad had repeatedly warned me of certain people and their ways. Although I am happy my grandma was returned, after speaking with her I realized how misguided and how badly she was lied to. I’m really angry and hurt. The following image is of a group chat I had started to several family members. This group text message I had started was replied to but they didn’t know that I could see the responses. For this whole time, they denied us contact to our grandmother. “If you continue with your lies I will continue with the truth”

-Michael Jackson Jr.
http://tl.gd/ihkq3p · Reply

Remember back at the original thread I posted twice that Janet's dark side has been creeping out?

Well never mind the "creeping" part, Janet IS evil. And it's a damn shame that Prince Michael had to see this for himself before saving the text to show the whole world.

Tony, I would like to say that she didn't want her mother's stress level to be affected by the grandchildren when she said "Don't let them pls." But that really doesn't seem to be the case. This has brought me back to the business with Justin Timberlake - I can see the text now during the planning of the wardrobe malfunction - "Don't tell him pls."

Katherine Jackson apparently back home

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Katherine Jackson is apparently back home, reuniting with Michael Jackson's children after a judge temporarily took away her guardianship because of her days-long absence from them.

Paris Jackson tweeted early Thursday morning: "grandma's here! (hash)thankyougod." Katherine Jackson's son Marlon also posted a note on Twitter saying his mother had returned, adding she looked and sound great.

On Wednesday, judge removed her as guardian temporarily and named her grandson Tito Joe "TJ" Jackson as temporary caretaker of the late legend's three minor children amid a bitter family dispute over Michael Jackson's estate.

Superior Court Judge Mitchell Beckloff issued the ruling because she was in Arizona and hadn't spoken with the children in several days. TJ Jackson now has the ability to control the hilltop home where the children live and to take on other supervision duties.

Katherine Jackson told ABC News that the court ruling was "based on a bunch of lies."

"I am devastated that while I've been away, that my children, my grandchildren, have been taken away from me, and I'm coming home to see about that, also," she said reading from a prepared statement.

She denied the suggestion made in court and in court filings to support TJ Jackson's appointment that she was being held against her will.

"I am here today to let everybody know that I am fine and I am here with my children, and my children would never do a thing to me like that, holding me against my will," she said while her children Randy, Janet and Rebbie were seated next to her. "It's very stupid for people to think that."

But on Thursday, Michael Jackson's son Prince posted a photo of what he said was a group text message involving Rebbie and Janet in which he demanded to contact with his grandmother and Janet allegedly responded: "Please don't let them."

"As long as I can remember my dad repeatedly warned me of certain people and their ways," Prince Michael tweeted. "Although I am happy my grandma was returned, after speaking with her I realize how misguided and how badly she was lied to. I 'm really angry and hurt."

Beckloff said there was no evidence that Katherine Jackson had done anything wrong but instead it appeared she was being prevented from fulfilling her role as guardian through the "intentional acts of third parties." He didn't elaborate but made the decision after reading court filings in which TJ Jackson expressed concern that Katherine Jackson was being prevented from returning.

He cited a Monday incident in which Janet, Randy and Jermaine Jackson arrived at the children's home and told them they could speak with their grandmother but had to leave with them.

"This was odd and disturbing to me and (the children) and heightened our concern that our grandmother was being prohibited from returning home," TJ Jackson wrote in a sworn statement. The incident turned into a confrontation between two male adults at the house and sheriff's officials say it remains an ongoing battery investigation.

Beckloff listened as attorneys described Katherine Jackson's demeanor as unusual on phone calls placed to the children hours before the hearing.

TJ Jackson's attorney Charles Shultz also revealed in court filings that the children were forced to miss school Wednesday because of concerns about their security.

Beckloff ruled the Jackson children could not leave California without court approval.

Katherine Jackson's attorney Perry Sanders Jr. said after the hearing that he spoke with his client as she was driving back to Los Angeles from Tucson, Ariz., where she had been since July 15.

"She sounded absolutely fine, lucid and her normal self," he said.

Sanders plans to ask the court to reinstate Katherine Jackson as guardian of the children when she is back in Los Angeles. He was looking forward to meeting with her in person on Thursday.

The public battle was revealed early Sunday after a relative reported Katherine Jackson missing, but she was later located safely with other family members in Arizona.

Jermaine Jackson has said his mother was following doctor's orders to cut off communications with the children, who range in age from 10 to 15. He didn't provide further details.

In addition to concerns about the safety of Jackson's children, some of Michael Jackson's siblings have recently called on the executors of his estate to resign.

Randy Jackson appeared Tuesday on Al Sharpton's MSNBC show PoliticsNation and said he believes his brother's will is a fake and that the executors have engaged in criminal activity.

The estate, which recently reported it saw $475 million in gross earnings since Jackson's death in June 2009, has denied wrongdoing and called the accusations "false and defamatory."

Beckloff, who also oversees financial issues affecting Jackson's estate, was initially reluctant to appoint a temporary guardian but changed his mind after hearing from several attorneys who expressed concern about the family's problems.

He made the ruling after hearing TJ Jackson's description of a "strange" conversation he had withKatherine Jackson on Tuesday evening.

"I've never heard my grandmother talk like that," he said reluctantly. "In every way. The sound in her voice. The pauses."

He said some of her speech sounded slurred and she used words that made him wonder if she was speaking in code.

Her son Marlon echoed those concerns on Twitter, complaining that siblings Janet, Randy and Jermaine were keeping her from him.

The children's guardian ad litem, Margaret Lodise, said she spoke with the children and the two oldest, Prince and Paris, supported the appointment of a temporary guardian. Lodise did not ask the youngest son, 10-year-old Blanket, for his views.

Lodise is responsible for overseeing the children's interests in the estate of their father.

Schultz said TJ Jackson didn't want to replace Katherine Jackson as permanent guardian. Still, the judge noted that TJ Jackson would have to petition to become the permanent guardian within 48 hours and added that such a petition might not be heard if Katherine Jackson re-emerges.

Sanders said he would fight any move to have her permanently replaced.

He said he met with Randy and Janet Jackson in Tucson, Ariz., on Tuesday, but he was not allowed to see his client. He said he still hoped the recent events were a misunderstanding, but he described them as "chaos."

http://news.yahoo.com/kat...12978.html

Katherine Jackson Arrives Home: 82 Year old Driven 516 Miles Overnight

It seems like Katherine Jackson finally was returned to her home in Calabasas, California, a Los Angeles suburb, sometime in the middle of the night. Granddaughter Paris, 14, Tweeted at approximately at 3:30am Pacific Time: “grandma’s here ! #thankyougod <33″ She added in subsequent Tweets: “time to #hibernate” and ” 5 hours of sleep last night , been awake for 23 haha goodnight everybody<33.” Earlier, she’d written: they promised my grandmother would be home YESTERDAY . why isn’t she home ?”

Good question. For some reason, after insisting that Katherine fly to Tucson, Jermaine, Janet and Randy sent their mother home by car. They could have put her on a commercial flight or chartered a plane right back to Burbank Airport. Instead, they sent their 82 year old mother on an arduous road trip of seven hours or more.

She could have flown home with the “Nightline” crew.

Also last night, after seeing “Nightline,” Marlon Jackson Tweeted: “Hello everyone Thank you for your support. I’m tired of not knowing where my mom is. I did speak with her last night but she didn’t sound like herself. I was told by Janet, Randy and Jermaine that I could not see my mom. Doctor’s order. But I see them on television with her. How come they could not call me so I could be with her as well.”

Katherine had been at Miraval Spa in Tucson for more than a week, cut off from her family and the world. Someone–either Jermaine, Randy, Janet, Rebbie or all of them–or assistant Janice Smith–took her cell phone and laptop from her. Evidently the phone in her room was removed, too, as Miraval says it has phones in every room.

Her apparent abandonment of her custodial grandchildren and her absence caused Mrs. Jackson to lose temporary guardianship of Paris, Prince, and Blanket. Judge Mitchell Beckloff noted that Mrs. Jackson lost it as her absence was the cause of “third parties.” Beckloff is not stupid, knows what’s going on, and may not be so quick to restore Mrs. Jackson.

Marlon, Tito, and Jackie Jackson may also now take more of an interest in their mother’s well being. Marlon and Tito have never asked for Michael Jackson’s money. And Jackie works for Michael’s estate. Tito, father of TJ, who’s now the temporary guardian of the children, works as a jazz musician full time.

http://www.showbiz411.com...ets-relief

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

SoulAlive said:

I think the big question now is....what happens next? After all the lies,misinformation,confusion,scheming,contradictory statements,accusations and bad feelings.....where does this family go from here? Will they even still be a "family" after all this?

Sadly, I think it's only going to get worse.

I just really hope and pray that TJ is on the up and up, not apart of the rest of his family's foolishness and truly has those children's best interest at heart because the timing of PapaTito's sudden about face on that letter shit, does make me go

Tito knew in advance that the massive game plan that Jermaine, Randy, Janet, & Rebbie were setting in motion against Michael's estate was going to failure badly.

Azz said:

TonyVanDam said:

TBDH, the entire Jackson Family needs to have their Twitter AND Facebook accounts deleted. Seriously!

Not all of them.

Janet's and Latoya's are fine.

Janet can keep a Facebook account for music business-related purposes only. . But no Twitter account to continue her feud with Paris!

LaToya needs to stay the hell away from her laptop and smartphone, period. We do NOT want her to have any bright idea.

Wow, the media is all over Prince's tweet exposing Janet directly conspiring to keep her niece and nephews away from talking to their grandma. This is not going to go well for her!

Exclusive: Janet Jackson Kept Kids From Speaking with Grandmother

http://www.showbiz411.com...randmother

Prince Michael Exposes Text

Proving Janet Jackson Refused To

Let Katherine Talk To Kids

Michael Jackson's oldest child, Prince Michael, broke his silence Thursday on the drama surrounding his family by tweeting a terse text exchange between he and his aunt, Janet Jackson, which apparently shows the Control singer did not want Prince, nor Paris orBlanket for that matter, to see their grandmother, Katherine Jackson.

In the text -- sent this past Monday at 4:52 PM -- Prince Michael writes "This is enough so I am texting you for the simple fact that WE DEMAND TO SPEAK TO MY GRANDMA NOW!"

Prince Michael sent the text to his aunts Rebbie and Janet, and also to another relative, Austin Jackson. Janet responded: 'Don't let them pls."

The text exchange contradicts a claim by Randy Jackson earlier this week that Michael’s children were free to see or talk with their grandmother at any time.

During an appearance Tuesday on MSNBC’s PoliticsNation, Randy spoke with the Rev. Al Sharpton about the altercation that took place a day earlier between some of Michael’s siblings and his children at Katherine’s Calabasas home.

"We are a family first. I want you to know that,” Randy told Sharpton.” Yesterday we did go to the home to let Paris and Prince know that they can visit with or talk to their grandma at any time. We felt someone was trying to twist the story that we were denying them access to their grandma.

Moments before Prince tweeted the text exchange, he posted this message:

"I would first like to start off this tweet by thanking the fans that have always stood by me and my family, my dad really appreciated your support and I still treasure it to this day. As I am sure everyone is well aware of the events that have been going on. I have been holding off on backing up my sister and her tweets avidly because I was waiting for the time to reveal my side.

"As long as I can remember my dad had repeatedly warned me of certain people and their ways. Although I am happy my grandma was returned, after speaking with her I realized how misguided and how badly she was lied to. I'm really angry and hurt. The following image is of a group chat I had started to several family members. This group text message I had started was replied to but they didn't know that I could see the responses. For this whole time, they denied us contact to our grandmother. "If you continue with your lies I will continue with the truth."

http://www.radaronline.co...-talk-kids

PRINCE JACKSON
My Grandma Was
Mentally ABUSED

Michael Jackson's eldest child is putting his relatives on blast -- particularly Janet Jackson -- by posting what he claims is an angry group text message convo about his grandmother Katherine Jackson.

Katherine returned from Arizona late last night, but a few hours later Prince Jackson sent out a tweet that included the text message, dated July 23rd (Monday). In it Prince says, "This is enough so I am texting you for the simple fact that WE DEMAND TO SPEAK TO MY GRANDMA NOW!!!"

A reply from "Janet Jackson" reads ... "Don't let them pls." It appears the message continued, but Prince did not post the rest of it.

In his tweet Prince also says, "Although I am happy my grandma was returned, after speaking with her I realized how misguided and how badly she was lied to. I’m really angry and hurt."

He continues, "For this whole time, they denied us contact to our grandmother. If you continue with your lies I will continue with the truth.”

Prince added a reference to his father -- "As long as I can remember my dad had repeatedly warned me of certain people and their ways."

People say the kids shouldnt be on Twitter tweeting about this but I disagree. This is EXACTLY what they should be doing. Exposing the LIES and CORRUPTION going on in this family. This is how they will get help. Way to go Prince and Paris!