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Reply #1200 posted 08/03/12 5:47pm

Azz

Unholyalliance said:

Azz said:

Addictive drugs such as lorazepam were found in his system. A common drug found in dead drug addicts.

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Lorazepam is extremely addictive. It is now rarely perscripted by doctors to patients.

"In addition to propofol, the autopsy revealed that Jackson had a veritable pharmacy flowing in his veins, with traces of lidocaine, diazepam, nordiazepam, lorazepam, midazolam and ephedrine in his blood."

My sister is a doctor.

[Edited 8/3/12 17:49pm]

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Reply #1201 posted 08/03/12 5:51pm

Azz

Oop. Janet's lawyer just repeated everything I have said.

I've always loved how Janet stands by what she believes in. She would never have signed the letter, if she did not believe in what it stood for.

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Reply #1202 posted 08/03/12 6:12pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

allsmutaside said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

That is a bunch of bull. Janet is just trying to protect her Mother.Anybody would act unlike themselves when their Mother is involved. Its nothing wrong with that.The situation had to be very serious for Janet to risk her image to put that lil spoiled brat Paris in check.. Paris has gotten so stuck up since she now knows the power she has.Even though the events that transpired we're wrong. Auntie Janet was the adult here. Not Little miss stuck up Paris..Janet should have put her over her lap & spanked her..The nerve of her to disrespect royalty like that & snatch back her phone & walk away..disbelief

Janet's career will be ok & is not dead like this article portrayed it.

C'mon Kool, you usually don't let your opinion get so clouded by such things. Ms. Katherine was fine financially, spiritually and physically - ain't no question - before all of this foolishness. Period. She needed protection, from what? Some dudes who put her financially self indulgent and fiscally irresponsible son's house in order so that she and his children could draw significant, healthy monthly allowances without worrying about the remainder of the estate, which is currently growing like wild flowers? Michael left them dudes in charge of the estate because he knew he had made some integral investment choices that were very smart, and that they could grow to be like a rain forest if looked after properly. Michael had let his business get busted (he's human, and that's ok); this is why he initially decided to do the London shows cuz he needed the money.

You talk about it like Paris and Janet are some drag queens (heart) on the roll. But you ought to reconsider that. Cuz Paris had every right to pull the knife out of her pocket book and really get Janet's attention. Royalty? Like it or not, bratty or not, Paris Jackson was raised by Michael Jackson as his daughter. Royalty all day long. And truth be told it was Prince Michael Jackson who drew blood with the twitter machine. Ouch! He stuck the blade right up under the ribs. They had every right considering Janet and Raz B Jackson and Jermajesty Sr. bum rushed the compound, not like royalty, but rather like some crack heads lookin to run a show.

But I fully agree with you on this point:

Janet's career will be ok & is not dead like this article portrayed it.

It will be uncomfortable for a while, but she can get CONTROL back. She needs to get RBJ out of her ear.

[Edited 7/28/12 21:59pm]

Huh! I am just protecting my boo boo Janet's behavior. I will not let ANYONE attack her for just looking out for her elderly Mother. I don't disagree that Paris & Prince Michael are very articulate intelligent kids. I just feel Paris is still a minor & should show a little respect to Auntie Janet whether she had a right to be there or not. Paris is outspoken just like her Mother. But her Mother is a grown women. If Paris was 18 then it would have been more acceptable in my eyes. But just because Paris is allowed to play football biggrin & wear full fledged make up, doesn't make her any more grown than her little brother Blanket..

If Janet felt that the Will was fake it is her right to protest it. It is nothing wrong with that. She is just making sure her equally talented brother's money is being taken care of(And that hers will be left alone from the leeches) biggrin

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Reply #1203 posted 08/03/12 6:18pm

SEANMAN

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Azz said:

Oop. Janet's lawyer just repeated everything I have said.

I've always loved how Janet stands by what she believes in. She would never have signed the letter, if she did not believe in what it stood for.

woot! headbang worship lol

Finally. THIS is what I've been saying all along as well. That's also what I LOVE about Janet. Regardless of what a bunch of non-informed lynchmobs and haters think, she STANDS HER MOTHERFUCKING GROUND.

DO. NOT. FUCK. WITH. DAMITA. JO.

[Edited 8/3/12 18:22pm]

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Reply #1204 posted 08/03/12 6:22pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

SEANMAN said:

Free2BMe said:

Agree. Janet is shady as hell and no excuses by her delusional stanatics will nullify that. She is the RING LEADER in this deception because she feels that her stans, media and puiblic will forgive her because she is Janet Jackson. It looks as if she is correct about her stans, they will forgive her even if she murdered someone. They are that pathetic. I don't know how much clearer her involvement has to be before these delusional stans see how far Janet's ass is involved. Even Paris, a 14 year-old girl has admitted that Janet did not slap her and that she did not cuss Janet out.

However, this cowardly fake heifer sits back and ALLOWS her stans and other people like Gladys Knight to bash this girl for no reason. Janet knows why she was trying to take Paris' cell phone, it was because Paris exposed their scheme. To do a CHILD like that is inexcusable. Janet's cowardice is almost as upsetting as the scam that she and her siblings tried to pull. I can bet that she wouldn't have walked up to Prince and tried to take his cell phone. Her actions toward Paris shows more envy than that of a concerned "aunt". These kids iknow that Janet is full of shit. They know what she has tried to do to her own brother and their father since his death. This entire scam that she is involved in is based on Jealousy,greed and the fact that she wants to be that's in charge of things. Can one imagine the outrage that these ignorant Janet stans would have had IF Michael had done the same thing to her, his mother, or any of his nieces and nephews. Of course, since it is Fake Ass Janet jackson, let's just forget that she LIED, used deception, tried to manipulate the public and allowed KIDS to take the heat for what SHE did. What a person to defend, stanatics! I wonder what you people are going to do when her next scam blows up in her face?

lol I just can't with you. Again, you go on and on as if you have some sort of personal stake in this, when A) you don't know any of these people and B) it is your blatant distaste for anything Janet Jackson that comes across more than anything in every post you make. I'm beginning to think you are just salty towards this woman for some other reason. If it wasn't this situation, then it'd be some other reason you'd be going on and on about "shady Janet," about "manipulative Janet", "about "liar Janet". Get a life, dude. GET-A-LIFE. Dot com.

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Reply #1205 posted 08/03/12 6:24pm

Unholyalliance

Azz said:

Lorazepam is extremely addictive. It is now rarely perscripted by doctors to patients.

"In addition to propofol, the autopsy revealed that Jackson had a veritable pharmacy flowing in his veins, with traces of lidocaine, diazepam, nordiazepam, lorazepam, midazolam and ephedrine in his blood."

My sister is a doctor.

[Edited 8/3/12 17:49pm]

Azz said:

Addictive drugs such as lorazepam were found in his system. A common drug found in dead drug addicts.

Please cite the source of the bolded statement. That was all that was asked of you.

Thank you.

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Reply #1206 posted 08/03/12 6:38pm

LightOfArt

can someone explain to me how janet and the clan were planning to get hold of the estate by dragging katherine to a spa and snatching the kids' iphones? how would this "prove" the will is fake? biggrin i havent followed this mess

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Reply #1207 posted 08/03/12 6:40pm

SEANMAN

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

SEANMAN said:

lol I just can't with you. Again, you go on and on as if you have some sort of personal stake in this, when A) you don't know any of these people and B) it is your blatant distaste for anything Janet Jackson that comes across more than anything in every post you make. I'm beginning to think you are just salty towards this woman for some other reason. If it wasn't this situation, then it'd be some other reason you'd be going on and on about "shady Janet," about "manipulative Janet", "about "liar Janet". Get a life, dude. GET-A-LIFE. Dot com.

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headbang

Ride or die for y'all brother and his kids Janet, Randy and Rebbie!

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Reply #1208 posted 08/03/12 6:42pm

Azz

Unholyalliance said:

Azz said:

Lorazepam is extremely addictive. It is now rarely perscripted by doctors to patients.

"In addition to propofol, the autopsy revealed that Jackson had a veritable pharmacy flowing in his veins, with traces of lidocaine, diazepam, nordiazepam, lorazepam, midazolam and ephedrine in his blood."

My sister is a doctor.

[Edited 8/3/12 17:49pm]

Azz said:

Addictive drugs such as lorazepam were found in his system. A common drug found in dead drug addicts.

Please cite the source of the bolded statement. That was all that was asked of you.

Thank you.

Excuse me. Do not take me for some messenger at your request.

I have no source. I have gathered this from what I read in broadshseet newspapers such as The Guardian and The Independent. If I were to give you examples of high profile deaths of drug addicts so you could search for proof, one would be Michael Jackson, the second being Whitney Houston, the third being Eva Rausing, the fourth being her husband (although he isn't dead). The other source being my sister who happens to be a doctor.

  • Research shows that 12.9 percent of people who primarily abuse Lorazepam also abuse another drug, and 82.1 percent of people who primarily abuse another drug also abuse Lorazepam.
  • Between 1998 and 2008, the number of hospitalizations related to Lorazepam and other benzodiazepines increased by 300 percent, while the number of overall hospitalizations in the United States increased by only 11 percent.
  • Over 100,000 emergency room visits in 2002 involved Lorazepam and other benzodiazepine drugs.
  • The likelihood of having a medical emergency while on Lorazepam increases substantially if you drink while on this drug.

[Edited 8/3/12 18:45pm]

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Reply #1209 posted 08/03/12 6:47pm

lowkey

i knew janet and randy wasnt gonna backtrack and run to the estate with their tails between their legs like tito and jermaine. its interesting that the siblings who has not participated in any mj related events since his death are the ones being accused of wanting his money.i keep asking the mj lynchmob to explain how they would get his money and still no logical answers.

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Reply #1210 posted 08/03/12 6:50pm

Azz

LightOfArt said:

can someone explain to me how janet and the clan were planning to get hold of the estate by dragging katherine to a spa and snatching the kids' iphones? how would this "prove" the will is fake? biggrin i havent followed this mess

This question doesn't make sense, and therefore only begs further nonsense replies, as it is particularly aimed for a obscure response from an MJ fan.

But I will treat it with respect despite such:

They have never planned to get ahold of the estate
Taking Katherine to a spa was so Katherine could get some rest. Something Katherine herself, and the kids agreed, recommended, encouraged and were well aware of. There was no dragging evolved.

No phones were confiscated. Janet attempted to take Paris' phone, because Paris was Tweeting personal matters to the web, including lies.

None of this was done to prove the will was fake.

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Reply #1211 posted 08/03/12 6:50pm

Analyst

Azz said:

Oop. Janet's lawyer just repeated everything I have said.

I've always loved how Janet stands by what she believes in. She would never have signed the letter, if she did not believe in what it stood for.

That is an excellent letter.

Now, if MJ fans and random jackasses are still talking shit, it's because they just want to shit on the family. They can't hide behind the excuse that they're just 'concerned about the kids welfare' anymore...

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Reply #1212 posted 08/03/12 6:53pm

Azz

lowkey said:

It's interesting that the siblings who have not participated in any MJ related events since his death are the ones being accused of wanting his money and the only ones who have their signatures still on the letter.

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Reply #1213 posted 08/03/12 7:05pm

LightOfArt

Azz said:

LightOfArt said:

can someone explain to me how janet and the clan were planning to get hold of the estate by dragging katherine to a spa and snatching the kids' iphones? how would this "prove" the will is fake? biggrin i havent followed this mess

This question doesn't make sense, and therefore only begs further nonsense replies, as it is particularly aimed for a obscure response from an MJ fan.

But I will treat it with respect despite such:

They have never planned to get ahold of the estate
Taking Katherine to a spa was so Katherine could get some rest. Something Katherine herself, and the kids agreed, recommended, encouraged and were well aware of. There was no dragging evolved.

No phones were confiscated. Janet attempted to take Paris' phone, because Paris was Tweeting personal matters to the web, including lies.

None of this was done to prove the will was fake.

then why did they release a statement talking about both issues if one has nothing to do with the other? why would the estate get angry and generate bad publicity for the jacksons if the disappearance of kate had nothing to do with the will? on the other hand why were the kids worried about kate if they recommended and knew she was at a spa. not to be mean but it does not add up smile

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Reply #1214 posted 08/03/12 7:09pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

SEANMAN said:

Hey, PatrickS77, just out of curiosity, are you the same PatrickS77 from over at Janet-Xone.com? The reason I ask is because you kind of seem to have a two-sided view when it comes to her. I'll just say that over there, your opinion of her seems to be a bit...different...than your view of her here on the Org lol I was in the thread over there about Janet gaining ownership of her Virgin Records masters in 2013, and when I saw your screen nick and comments, bells of familiarity went off in my head.

Anyway, about those masters, it seems her contract with Virgin stipulated that seven years after her contract ends, she will gain control of all of her Virgin masters. Seeing as though her last album with the company was in 2006, next year will be seven years after the contract ended, which means that she will be PAID. eek

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Reply #1215 posted 08/03/12 7:10pm

Azz

LightOfArt said:

Azz said:

This question doesn't make sense, and therefore only begs further nonsense replies, as it is particularly aimed for a obscure response from an MJ fan.

But I will treat it with respect despite such:

They have never planned to get ahold of the estate
Taking Katherine to a spa was so Katherine could get some rest. Something Katherine herself, and the kids agreed, recommended, encouraged and were well aware of. There was no dragging evolved.

No phones were confiscated. Janet attempted to take Paris' phone, because Paris was Tweeting personal matters to the web, including lies.

None of this was done to prove the will was fake.

then why did they release a statement talking about both issues if one has nothing to do with the other? why would the estate get angry and generate bad publicity for the jacksons if the disappearance of kate had nothing to do with the will? on the other hand why were the kids worried about kate if they recommended and knew she was at a spa. not to be mean but it does not add up smile

The spa was not mentioned in the letter. Katherine's health was mentioned however. They feel that those executives are placing unnecessary pressure on Katherine because she filed a wrongful death lawsuit amongst othet things.

The estate are generating bad press and feeding lies to websites like TMZ because they hope that by spreading negative lies MJ fans and the public alike are stupid enough to believe them (Despite TMZ having to retract several of their statements for lying) and hope that with negative response they will withdraw their signatures from the letter.

I have no idea why the kids were worried. Perhaps because Trent or TJ were spreading lies. But it is for certain, that they were all aware that Katherine was leaving for a week to get rest; Prince even caried her luggage.

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Reply #1216 posted 08/03/12 7:13pm

SEANMAN

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

SEANMAN said:

Hey, PatrickS77, just out of curiosity, are you the same PatrickS77 from over at Janet-Xone.com? The reason I ask is because you kind of seem to have a two-sided view when it comes to her. I'll just say that over there, your opinion of her seems to be a bit...different...than your view of her here on the Org lol I was in the thread over there about Janet gaining ownership of her Virgin Records masters in 2013, and when I saw your screen nick and comments, bells of familiarity went off in my head.

Anyway, about those masters, it seems her contract with Virgin stipulated that seven years after her contract ends, she will gain control of all of her Virgin masters. Seeing as though her last album with the company was in 2006, next year will be seven years after the contract ended, which means that she will be PAID. eek

eek

lol Yup. P-A-I-D.
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Reply #1217 posted 08/03/12 7:16pm

Unholyalliance

Azz said:

Unholyalliance said:

Please cite the source of the bolded statement. That was all that was asked of you.

Thank you.

I have no source.

I know you don't. You should refrain from sitting here and making false claims and/or statements. Only one part of this statement is true:

Addictive drugs such as lorazepam were found in his [Michael Jackson's] system.

But yet you claim this too:

A common drug found in dead drug addicts.

There is no evidence, at all, to back this up. Not in the least. Why you even stated that is beyond me tbqh. So here you are parading unfounded claims as fact and then have the audacity to tell me:

Do not take me for some messenger at your request.

All I did was tell you to back up your bullshit claims with a verifiable source. Who cares if your sister is a doctor? It still doesn't give that fantastic statement you made any validity,at all. If Dr. Sister did tell you that then she's a hack and she needs to quit her practice before she ends up hurting someone. So you can sit here and quote websites all day long about how addictive the drug is. It still doesn't make your second statement any less ridiculous.

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Reply #1218 posted 08/03/12 7:39pm

helena36

I read the Blair Brown letter.

I don't think Janet knows what she's gotten into, purely based on the fact that she, if nothing else, should be much smarter than this. For some reason Randy's always had her ear and she got into this just as she got into the MJ the drug addict theory(she herself admitted she had taken no part in any of the supposed interventions, just heard from a third party involved) purely based on her trust in Randy.

The thing that makes this whole "the will is fake the estate is evil" fiasco ridiculous is the fact that MJ's will has been taken in front of the judge three times already, all the way up to California Supreme Court. The inaccuracies in children's names and the location being signed LA, they're nothing new. They have been closely examined and already proven to be simple clerical errors that has nothing to do with the validity of the will.

This all took place in 2009, and what's more, all of this Randy knows very well.

If you remember, Randy is someone who, two days after MJ's death got Katherine to go to court saying MJ died without a will and that she along with her son RANDY, would be heading MJ's estate(and control his money lol)


Janet should actually check things out for herself and not take Randy's word as gospel, which is how it's coming across to me. Letting Randy convince her MJ being an addict or his will turning out to be fake might satisfy her whatever subconscious psychological need or real monetary ones but I believe she can/should be better than that.

[Edited 8/3/12 19:46pm]

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Reply #1219 posted 08/03/12 7:41pm

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Reply #1220 posted 08/03/12 7:53pm

Scorp

Azz said:

LightOfArt said:

then why did they release a statement talking about both issues if one has nothing to do with the other? why would the estate get angry and generate bad publicity for the jacksons if the disappearance of kate had nothing to do with the will? on the other hand why were the kids worried about kate if they recommended and knew she was at a spa. not to be mean but it does not add up smile

The spa was not mentioned in the letter. Katherine's health was mentioned however. They feel that those executives are placing unnecessary pressure on Katherine because she filed a wrongful death lawsuit amongst othet things.

The estate are generating bad press and feeding lies to websites like TMZ because they hope that by spreading negative lies MJ fans and the public alike are stupid enough to believe them (Despite TMZ having to retract several of their statements for lying) and hope that with negative response they will withdraw their signatures from the letter.

I have no idea why the kids were worried. Perhaps because Trent or TJ were spreading lies. But it is for certain, that they were all aware that Katherine was leaving for a week to get rest; Prince even caried her luggage.

the estate concocted this entire fiasco and manipulated MJ fans, used commercial, and exploited those 3 kids in order to gain leverage on this family

the mj fans don't realize it, that's what' so ironic about all of this

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Reply #1221 posted 08/03/12 7:59pm

Azz

Find evidence to refute my claim and I will agree.

From what I have read, from how addictive and dangerous the drug is, from the number of hospital-lorazepam related emergancies every year, and from the fact that many recent high profile dead drug addicts have all had lorazepam in their system, I think it's a fair hypothisis to say that the fact lorazepam, amongst many other drugs and many other factors, including behaviour and from family members, to state that Mj was a drug addict.

EDIT:

"SAMHSA found sedative-hypnotics are the pharmaceuticals most frequently used outside of their prescribed medical purpose in the United States, with 35% of drug-related emergency room visits involving sedative-hypnotics. In this category, benzodiazepines are most commonly used.

Lorazepam was the third-most-common drug used outside of prescription in ER visit statistics.

Individuals with a substance abuse history are at an increased risk of misusing benzodiazepines.

This severe neuroadaptation is even more profound in high dose drug users and misusers.

Misuse of benzodiazepines is widespread amongst drug misusers

Benzodiazepines are one of the largest classes of abused drugs; they are classed as schedule IV controlled drugs because of their recognized medical uses

In the elderly, alcohol and benzodiazepines are the most commonly abused substances, and the elderly population is more susceptible tobenzodiazepine withdrawal syndrome and delirium than are younger patients"


This is further evidence that 81% of drug misusers have mis-used lorazepam or other benzodiazepine drugs.

Unholyalliance said:

Azz said:

There is no evidence, at all, to back this up. Not in the least. Why you even stated that is beyond me tbqh. So here you are parading unfounded claims as fact and then have the audacity to tell me:

Do not take me for some messenger at your request.

All I did was tell you to back up your bullshit claims with a verifiable source. Who cares if your sister is a doctor? It still doesn't give that fantastic statement you made any validity,at all. If Dr. Sister did tell you that then she's a hack and she needs to quit her practice before she ends up hurting someone. So you can sit here and quote websites all day long about how addictive the drug is. It still doesn't make your second statement any less ridiculous.

[Edited 8/3/12 20:12pm]

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Reply #1222 posted 08/03/12 8:10pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

Analyst said:

Azz said:

Oop. Janet's lawyer just repeated everything I have said.

I've always loved how Janet stands by what she believes in. She would never have signed the letter, if she did not believe in what it stood for.

That is an excellent letter.

Now, if MJ fans and random jackasses are still talking shit, it's because they just want to shit on the family. They can't hide behind the excuse that they're just 'concerned about the kids welfare' anymore...

clapping

#TEAMJANET,RANDY&REBBIE

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #1223 posted 08/03/12 8:13pm

Unholyalliance

Azz said:

Find evidence to refute my claim and I will agree.

Naturally if you make the claim first, it should be you to have the evidence ready to back it up. You just admitted that you didn't even have a source. So now you are just trying to save face, because someone called you out on your nonsense. Just do yourself a favor and just stop it. You are making yourself look even worse.

From what I have read, from how addictive the drug is, from the number of hospital-lorazepam related emergancies every year, and from the fact that many recent high profile dead drug addicts have all had lorazepam in their system, I think it's a fair hypothisis to say that the fact lorazepam, amongst many other drugs and many other factors, including behaviour and from family members, to state that Mj was a drug addict.

LOL What does this have to do with anything that we're talking about? Who said anything about MJ being a drug addict? WTF does MJ being a drug addict have to do with this? What is wrong with you? Every time I read your posts I become more and more convinced that you lack some serious reading comprehension skills, more than anyone else I've seen in a real long time. Are you so adamant about trying to prove your point that you are willing to abandon all sense in order to do so?

That's some real serious dedication to your cause there. confused

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Reply #1224 posted 08/03/12 8:16pm

Azz

Unholyalliance said:

Azz said:

Find evidence to refute my claim and I will agree.

Naturally if you make the claim first, it should be you to have the evidence ready to back it up. You just admitted that you didn't even have a source. So now you are just trying to save face, because someone called you out on your nonsense. Just do yourself a favor and just stop it. You are making yourself look even worse.

From what I have read, from how addictive the drug is, from the number of hospital-lorazepam related emergancies every year, and from the fact that many recent high profile dead drug addicts have all had lorazepam in their system, I think it's a fair hypothisis to say that the fact lorazepam, amongst many other drugs and many other factors, including behaviour and from family members, to state that Mj was a drug addict.

LOL What does this have to do with anything that we're talking about? Who said anything about MJ being a drug addict? WTF does MJ being a drug addict have to do with this? What is wrong with you? Every time I read your posts I become more and more convinced that you lack some serious reading comprehension skills, more than anyone else I've seen in a real long time. Are you so adamant about trying to prove your point that you are willing to abandon all sense in order to do so?

That's some real serious dedication to your cause there. confused


This is an Mj related thread - you are an MJ fan. Can you not make that connection. This whole thread is based around MJ, including the statement I made.

"SAMHSA found sedative-hypnotics are the pharmaceuticals most frequently used outside of their prescribed medical purpose in the United States, with 35% of drug-related emergency room visits involving sedative-hypnotics. In this category, benzodiazepines are most commonly used.

Lorazepam was the third-most-common drug used outside of prescription in ER visit statistics.

Individuals with a substance abuse history are at an increased risk of misusing benzodiazepines.

This severe neuroadaptation is even more profound in high dose drug users and misusers.

Misuse of benzodiazepines is widespread amongst drug misusers

Benzodiazepines are one of the largest classes of abused drugs; they are classed as schedule IV controlled drugs because of their recognized medical uses

In the elderly, alcohol and benzodiazepines are the most commonly abused substances, and the elderly population is more susceptible tobenzodiazepine withdrawal syndrome and delirium than are younger patients"

AGAIN. This is further evidence that 81% of drug misusers have mis-used lorazepam or other benzodiazepine drugs.


But OBVIOUSLY there is going to be no statistics about the percentage of dead drug addicts that had lorazepam in their system or have abused lorzapeam or other benzodiazepines in the past rolleyes


So how could I possibly have a source for it!

The 81% statistic more or less proves I was right. I expect a reponse attempting to save face.

"Research shows that 12.9 percent of people who primarily abuse Lorazepam also abuse another drug, and 82.1 percent of people who primarily abuse another drug also abuse Lorazepam."

I find it funny that you chose to ignore the statistics.

[Edited 8/3/12 20:24pm]

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Reply #1225 posted 08/03/12 8:24pm

Unholyalliance

Azz said:

This is an Mj related thread - you are an MJ fan. Can you not make that connection. This whole thread is based around MJ, including the statement I made.

No, this thread is about Katherine missing. This has nothing to do with MJ personally. If you want to talk about him, you go to the sticky for that. MJ being or not being addicted to drugs really has no place here as it's not relevant to the discussion at hand, except for the fact of the doctor that testified at Conrad's trial being on the conspiracy to kidnap an old lady taking care of dead son's three kids.

But OBVIOUSLY there is going to be no statistics about the percentage of dead drug addicts that had lorazepam in their system or have abused lorzapeam or other benzodiazepines in the past rolleyes


SO HOW WOULD I POSSIBLY HAVE A SOURCE FOR IT!

EXACTLY! Which is why you should not have made the statement in the first place. Duh. Any normal human being would know that, why don't you?

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Reply #1226 posted 08/03/12 8:27pm

Azz

Unholyalliance said:

Azz said:

This is an Mj related thread - you are an MJ fan. Can you not make that connection. This whole thread is based around MJ, including the statement I made.

No, this thread is about Katherine missing. This has nothing to do with MJ personally. If you want to talk about him, you go to the sticky for that. MJ being or not being addicted to drugs really has no place here as it's not relevant to the discussion at hand, except for the fact of the doctor that testified at Conrad's trial being on the conspiracy to kidnap an old lady taking care of dead son's three kids.

But OBVIOUSLY there is going to be no statistics about the percentage of dead drug addicts that had lorazepam in their system or have abused lorzapeam or other benzodiazepines in the past rolleyes


SO HOW WOULD I POSSIBLY HAVE A SOURCE FOR IT!

EXACTLY! Which is why you should not have made the statement in the first place. Duh. Any normal human being would know that, why don't you?

1) False. You MJ fans have stated several times that Katherine's 'kidnapping' is a result of MJ's will. This thread is directly related to MJ. Don't play that BS. MJ being addicted to drugs brought up this conversation, so that again is BS

2) Then why ask for one and then call me crazy for not having one. You are starting to look silly by contradicting yourself

Oh BTW, stop ignoring the facts. This statistic PROVES I was right. But continue to ignore the statistcs why don't you.

Laughable.

"Research shows that 12.9 percent of people who primarily abuse Lorazepam also abuse another drug, and 82.1 percent of people who primarily abuse another drug also abuse Lorazepam."

[Edited 8/3/12 20:28pm]

[Edited 8/3/12 20:29pm]

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Reply #1227 posted 08/03/12 8:28pm

aardvark15

Unholyalliance said:

Azz said:

This is an Mj related thread - you are an MJ fan. Can you not make that connection. This whole thread is based around MJ, including the statement I made.

No, this thread is about Katherine missing. This has nothing to do with MJ personally.

If this isn't an MJ related thread than why exactly is it in the music forum?

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Reply #1228 posted 08/03/12 8:29pm

SEANMAN

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I'm loving how the main members of the Janet and Co. lynchmob are suddenly nowhere to be found. Oh, the irony. lol lol lol lol
"Get up off that grey line"
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Reply #1229 posted 08/03/12 8:30pm

Azz

aardvark15 said:

Unholyalliance said:

No, this thread is about Katherine missing. This has nothing to do with MJ personally.

If this isn't an MJ related thread than why exactly is it in the music forum?

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