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Reply #1170 posted 08/03/12 11:18am

Azz

allsmutaside said:

Azz said:

Sadly, even with what looks like some of the facts falling on your side of the fence, your yard is still a wretched mess. Your post actually supports what most people have been saying to you. You need to give yourself a time-out. You have been tested, and you have failed, yourself. Good ness.

Sounds to me like someone is trying to save face because they were wrong.

I can only hope you've actually spent some time reading my posts properly, unlike my post of the TMZ title, because otherwise you are most probably wrong again.

But thanks for you inacurate take on what I have been saying none the less smile

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Reply #1171 posted 08/03/12 11:20am

mjscarousal

Azz said:

mjscarousal said:

Katherine insisted that Michael bleached his skin and described his nose in a insulting way and called him a liar.


Michael did change his skin colour, either by bleaching or by creams. If he simply had vitiligo, his skin would be patchy, not one colour.

He did lie about havnig two nose jobs, he had way more than that. The whole of his face was reconstructed, he even indented a dent into his chin!

eek eek eek eek eek eek eek

FIRSTLY biggrin You have just contradicted EVERY post that you have made in this thread, WHERE did you get your source from?

THE AUTOSPY STATED MICHAEL HAD VITILIGO

And your arguement is absurd.

Vitilgo is not necessarily patches but yes that is where it starts. There are people who have it full spread all over there body, face, neck, legs, etc

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Reply #1172 posted 08/03/12 11:24am

Azz

mjscarousal said:

Azz said:


Michael did change his skin colour, either by bleaching or by creams. If he simply had vitiligo, his skin would be patchy, not one colour.

He did lie about havnig two nose jobs, he had way more than that. The whole of his face was reconstructed, he even indented a dent into his chin!

eek eek eek eek eek eek eek

FIRSTLY biggrin You have just contradicted EVERY post that you have made in this thread, WHERE did you get your source from?

THE AUTOSPY STATED MICHAEL HAD VITILIGO

And your arguement is absurd.

Vitilgo is not necessarily patches but yes that is where it starts. There are people who have it full spread all over there body, face, neck, legs, etc

What?

I know the autospy said he had vitiligo. I never said otherwise?

But, michael did use whitening creams or some kind of bleach so that his skin was all one colour - that much is obvious.

Where did I here what from? The fact he has had loads of plastic surgery is evident through pictures.

How have I contradicted every post I have made. I've never before even spoke about this.

[Edited 8/3/12 11:24am]

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Reply #1173 posted 08/03/12 11:28am

Azz

SoulAlive said:

allsmutaside said:

Sadly, even with what looks like some of the facts falling on your side of the fence, your yard is still a wretched mess. Your post actually supports what most people have been saying to you. You need to give yourself a time-out. You have been tested, and you have failed, yourself. Good ness.

lol yeah,this person needs to take a BREAK! Day after day,he's bending over backwards to "prove" that everyone else is guilty,except the main folks who started this mess lol

And yet you have yet to 'prove' me wrong. Because I speak with logic, whereas you speek with obsession and delusion.

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Reply #1174 posted 08/03/12 11:28am

isobelfq

Azz said:

mjscarousal said:

Katherine insisted that Michael bleached his skin and described his nose in a insulting way and called him a liar.


Michael did change his skin colour, either by bleaching or by creams. If he simply had vitiligo, his skin would be patchy, not one colour.

He did lie about havnig two nose jobs, he had way more than that. The whole of his face was reconstructed, he even indented a dent into his chin!

my response to the vitaligo comment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za6nv-CK4xQ

watch it.

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[Edited 8/3/12 11:31am]

[Edited 8/3/12 11:32am]

Join me under the waterfall
Climb the rainbow tree

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Reply #1175 posted 08/03/12 11:31am

Azz

isobelfq said:

Azz said:


Michael did change his skin colour, either by bleaching or by creams. If he simply had vitiligo, his skin would be patchy, not one colour.

He did lie about havnig two nose jobs, he had way more than that. The whole of his face was reconstructed, he even indented a dent into his chin!

my response to the vitaligo comment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za6nv-CK4xQ

watch it.

I believe whitening creams were found in Michael Jackson's house. I'm pretty sure I remember reading something along those lines. Whether it was tabloid lies, remains to be seen. But it does support what katherine has said, and the fact that he managed to mostly be seen with one skin colour rather than patches on his face and arms.

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Reply #1176 posted 08/03/12 11:35am

dag

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Azz said:

isobelfq said:

my response to the vitaligo comment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za6nv-CK4xQ

watch it.

I believe whitening creams were found in Michael Jackson's house. I'm pretty sure I remember reading something along those lines. Whether it was tabloid lies, remains to be seen. But it does support what katherine has said, and the fact that he managed to mostly be seen with one skin colour rather than patches on his face and arms.

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Reply #1177 posted 08/03/12 11:36am

mjscarousal

Azz said:

mjscarousal said:

eek eek eek eek eek eek eek

FIRSTLY biggrin You have just contradicted EVERY post that you have made in this thread, WHERE did you get your source from?

THE AUTOSPY STATED MICHAEL HAD VITILIGO

And your arguement is absurd.

Vitilgo is not necessarily patches but yes that is where it starts. There are people who have it full spread all over there body, face, neck, legs, etc

What?

I know the autospy said he had vitiligo. I never said otherwise?

But, michael did use whitening creams or some kind of bleach so that his skin was all one colour - that much is obvious.

Where did I here what from? The fact he has had loads of plastic surgery is evident through pictures.

How have I contradicted every post I have made. I've never before even spoke about this.

[Edited 8/3/12 11:24am]

I think its ignorant to honestly sit here and suggest that someone who has full blown Vitiligo bleaches their skin. eek There are NORMAL regular people who have Vitiligo all over their body. Once again I ask, where did you get this source from? Please dont say Katherine eek

Yes you have contradicted yourself. Your whole arguement has been on not believing the media and you just sat here and made a point based off of the media.

Michael talks about the clef he added in his chin in Moonwalker. Katherine did not talk about Michaels other surgeries just his NOSE. So what point are you making in throwing in these other things?

Your a Janet stan out to get Michael when this is not about him.... You have to come alot stronger than that hun with more credible info if you want to have a convincing arguement!

This is NOT about Michael ... STOP making it to be about him. NONE of this justifies Janets odd behavior in this situation.

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Reply #1178 posted 08/03/12 11:37am

SoulAlive

Azz said:

SoulAlive said:

lol yeah,this person needs to take a BREAK! Day after day,he's bending over backwards to "prove" that everyone else is guilty,except the main folks who started this mess lol

And yet you have yet to 'prove' me wrong. Because I speak with logic, whereas you speek with obsession and delusion.

You've been proven wrong several times already lol but you keep babbling on,insisting that you're right.At some point,you need to know when to throw in the towel.

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Reply #1179 posted 08/03/12 11:38am

Azz

dag said:

Azz said:

I believe whitening creams were found in Michael Jackson's house. I'm pretty sure I remember reading something along those lines. Whether it was tabloid lies, remains to be seen. But it does support what katherine has said, and the fact that he managed to mostly be seen with one skin colour rather than patches on his face and arms.


I'm not denying he had vitiligo. Read what I'm saying.

But I do believe that he used whitening creams to even out his skin colour. As was found at his home, and is also what Katherine said.

Read what I say before you post pointless posts which add nothing.

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Reply #1180 posted 08/03/12 11:43am

Azz

mjscarousal said:

Azz said:

What?

I know the autospy said he had vitiligo. I never said otherwise?

But, michael did use whitening creams or some kind of bleach so that his skin was all one colour - that much is obvious.

Where did I here what from? The fact he has had loads of plastic surgery is evident through pictures.

How have I contradicted every post I have made. I've never before even spoke about this.

[Edited 8/3/12 11:24am]

I think its ignorant to honestly sit here and suggest that someone who has full blown Vitiligo bleaches their skin. eek There are NORMAL regular people who have Vitiligo all over their body. Once again I ask, where did you get this source from? Please dont say Katherine eek

Yes you have contradicted yourself. Your whole arguement has been on not believing the media and you just sat here and made a point based off of the media.

Michael talks about the clef he added in his chin in Moonwalker. Katherine did not talk about Michaels other surgeries just his NOSE. So what point are you making in throwing in these other things?

Your a Janet stan out to get Michael when this is not about him.... You have to come alot stronger than that hun with more credible info if you want to have a convincing arguement!

This is NOT about Michael ... STOP making it to be about him. NONE of this justifies Janets odd behavior in this situation.

You never answer the comments I make. You just post information. Which just confuses me?

Why is it so abnormal that Michael would want to even out the white spots on his skin? Whitening creams were found in his home? Theres nothing wrong with doing this in my opinion. So calm down. Katherine, his mother, is a good source. She's his damn mother. I'm not denying he had vitiligo.

Michael still had more than two nose jobs. He had several.


Im not even talking about Janet in this post, just Michael. I'm not comparing about them in anyway. You said Katherine 'threw Michael under the bus' (a saying which you have removed all meaning from) and I am simply saying she didn't.

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Reply #1181 posted 08/03/12 11:44am

Azz

SoulAlive said:

Azz said:

And yet you have yet to 'prove' me wrong. Because I speak with logic, whereas you speek with obsession and delusion.

You've been proven wrong several times already lol but you keep babbling on,insisting that you're right.At some point,you need to know when to throw in the towel.

I haven't. At some point, you need to throw in the towel.

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Reply #1182 posted 08/03/12 11:48am

dag

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Azz said:

dag said:


I'm not denying he had vitiligo. Read what I'm saying.

But I do believe that he used whitening creams to even out his skin colour. As was found at his home, and is also what Katherine said.

Read what I say before you post pointless posts which add nothing.

Then you obviously don't know what you are saying anymore cause several people have quoted you saying this:

"Michael did change his skin colour, either by bleaching or by creams. If he simply had vitiligo, his skin would be patchy, not one colour."

[Edited 8/3/12 11:49am]

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #1183 posted 08/03/12 11:55am

free2bfreeda

Azz said:


Michael did change his skin colour, either by bleaching or by creams. If he simply had vitiligo, his skin would be patchy, not one colour.

He did lie about havnig two nose jobs, he had way more than that. The whole of his face was reconstructed, he even indented a dent into his chin!

imo i feel mrs jackson was michael's confidant, crying shoulder and comforter for when this disease of vitiligo began to cover his body. usually "people who are stigmatised for their condition may experience depression and similar mood disorders." i'm glad i never said bad things about this gifted person in regard to his skin's appearance.

a very close member of my family had vitiligo - (her doctor pronouced the word 'veit-teg-leo'). anyway, when it first began, it started on her face and arms. one of the things the doctor did was prescribe her a special brown make-up to camouflage and even out the white patches on her skin.

after years of treatment the vitiglio spread. so finally the doctor suggested that she get a more white/lighter toned make up. she flat out refused after applying the make up, and told him she'd rather wear the brown.

if you look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitiligo one can see some of the info on the disease.

so whose to say what michael looked like w/out his make-up in the earlier stages of the skin issue. i'm sure his vanity was under emotional attack, and whose to say that the disease did not eventually cover his whole face.

the facial re-construction, hey i have no opinion pro or con on that issue. just wanted to express from first had what skin pigmentation disorder can do to a person.

oh and by the way, i've got to stay on track b'cause this thread is about mrs jackson and the issues that surround her missing.

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Reply #1184 posted 08/03/12 12:02pm

lazycrockett

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

lazycrockett said:

^ Basically they showed what most people already knew, the family is a fucking ghetto mess.

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Y'all are not going to pin this shit on the ghetto. Ain't nobody in the ghetto crazy enough to try kidnapping their own mama! hammer

You forget they're from Indiana. biggrin

The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything.
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Reply #1185 posted 08/03/12 12:09pm

TheWifey

I thought this thread wasn't about Michael Jackson? It was about the mess with his mother?
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Reply #1186 posted 08/03/12 12:12pm

lazycrockett

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TheWifey said:

I thought this thread wasn't about Michael Jackson? It was about the mess with his mother?

Mj stans are just overzealous cause they aren't all stuck in a sticky thread where no one else goes. smile

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Reply #1187 posted 08/03/12 12:13pm

TheWifey

So Kat threw her kids under the bus huh like they deserved?
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Reply #1188 posted 08/03/12 12:26pm

free2bfreeda

abc

TJ Jackson emerges as Katherine's co-guardian

http://news.yahoo.com/tj-...46530.html

LOS ANGELES (AP) — TJ Jackson was one of Michael Jackson's favorite nephews. An heir to the family's musical talent and striking good looks, he is the son of Tito, one of the original Jackson Five. Largely unknown to the American public until now, he has been anointed as co-guardian of Michael's most prized treasures — his three children.

Suddenly, TJ is the chosen Jackson, the one designated to work beside Michael's mother to look after the welfare of his three cousins Prince, 15, Paris, 14 and Blanket,10, who will inherit the King of Pop's fortune.

He's stepping into a sensitive situation just days after a family feud went viral. But he appears to have only one interest at heart — the children.

"He has been very dedicated to these kids since Michael Jackson's death and he was involved with them before that," TJ's lawyer, Charles A. Schultz, said at a Thursday court hearing.

Superior Court Judge Mitchell Beckloff, who appointed TJ to work with Katherine Jackson, said there is a strong bond between the 34-year-old T.J. and the children.

"They have a very significant relationship with TJ Jackson and they love him very much," said the judge. "There are things about his past that the kids can relate to."

Schultz agreed, saying outside court: "He had a loss early in his life of a close personal relative and they can identify with that."

In 1994, six years after his parents divorced, TJ's mother, Dolores, died in a drowning at her home swimming pool. Her boyfriend was later convicted of causing her drowning and was sentenced to 15 years in prison.

When Michael Jackson died in 2009, Dr. Conrad Murray was accused of causing his death and was convicted of manslaughter. He is currently serving a four-year prison term.

Now, three years after his death, Michael's children are at the center of a familial battle and TJ's role has become even more important. Recently, Katherine Jackson was reported missing and Beckloff replaced her with TJ as the children's guardian. Now she's back, telling a story of having been held virtually incommunicado at a resort in Tucson, Ariz., unaware that she was the subject of a missing person's report.

In the court hearing Thursday, with neither of the parties present, the judge ruled that TJ and Katherine will share guardianship on a temporary basis. The arrangement could be made permanent later.

Beckloff had appointed an investigator to look into the domestic situation at the suburban Calabasas mansion where the young Jacksons have been living with their 82-year-old grandmother.

The result was a glowing report: "It appears from the report that Katherine Jackson has done a wonderful job and cares about the children very much," the judge said. "I think the kids are in terrific hands."

No mention was made of the Jackson siblings who were at the center of a family dispute last week that broke into a public shouting match on the driveway of Katherine's home. What one lawyer called "the chaos" ended with Jermaine Jackson calling for a truce.

TJ, who is movie star-handsome and has a band with his brothers called 3T, is named Tito Joseph for his father and grandfather. Always known as TJ, he appears to have emerged as a welcome stable force in the family.

When Paris began tweeting messages of distress over the temporary disappearance of her grandmother and the battles among Michael's siblings, TJ tweeted to her: "I know it's completely unfair for them to do this to you and your brothers. We will keep trying. I love you." Added a second tweet: "Make your life an act of love."

Thomas Mesereau Jr., the former attorney for Michael who knows the family, had high praise for TJ.

"I met him some time ago and he was a very nice young man, very mature and very sincere," said Mesereau. "It appeared to me that Katherine thought very highly of him."

But Mesereau said the current situation was unthinkable before Michael's death.

"Three years ago, these children had a father who loved them and gave them a wonderful upbringing," the attorney said. "He wanted them to be highly educated, to learn about the world and the wonders of nature. It's very tragic."

TJ's devotion to his uncle, Michael, has been evident. At his funeral, members of the family provided loving tributes in a glossy program. TJ's entry read: "You taught me how to smile. You taught me how to dream. You taught me how to live. Uncle Michael, I will always cherish all of our special moments and blissful time together. I love you so much."

Michael's ties to TJ and his two brothers was confirmed by his will, which named them among "contingent remainder" beneficiaries, who usually gain if the main beneficiaries pass away.

Like most of the Jacksons, TJ has lived among celebrities. The Internet was ablaze this week with reports that he was the first lover of Kim Kardashian when both were in high school. There was no comment from TJ but he has acknowledged that they were close and she consoled him when his mother died.

"We became extra close when my mom passed away,' TJ told People magazine in 1995 of Kardashian. "She dropped everything to be with me."

TJ married his wife, Frances, in 2007 and has three children.

When he and his brothers, Taj and Taryll, formed 3T, they were encouraged by their uncle, Michael, who sang with them on their first records, The 3T group had significant success in Europe with three songs that reached No. 2 on British charts. Two of them, "Why" and "I Need You," released in 1996, featured Michael Jackson's voice.

In 2010, the 3T group reprised Jackson's "We Are the World' with various famous voices to benefit Haiti relief efforts. The brothers also have appeared on reality TV shows with other members of the Jackson clan and have toured overseas.

Last October, the family staged a tribute concert to Michael in Cardiff, Wales. But typically, the Jacksons were divided over whether it was appropriate to hold such a tribute during the Murray trial in Los Angeles. Janet, Jermaine and Randy stayed away. Jackie, Marlon, La Toya and Tito performed. So did TJ and his brothers.

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Reply #1189 posted 08/03/12 12:29pm

allsmutaside

TheWifey said:

So Kat threw her kids under the bus huh like they deserved?

Naw. They were are all headed for the undercairrage, and Kat just pulled herself and the grandkids, and TJ and Trent, back. I think Raz B Jackson chipped a tooth in the altercation.

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Reply #1190 posted 08/03/12 12:44pm

Azz

dag said:

Azz said:


I'm not denying he had vitiligo. Read what I'm saying.

But I do believe that he used whitening creams to even out his skin colour. As was found at his home, and is also what Katherine said.

Read what I say before you post pointless posts which add nothing.

Then you obviously don't know what you are saying anymore cause several people have quoted you saying this:

"Michael did change his skin colour, either by bleaching or by creams. If he simply had vitiligo, his skin would be patchy, not one colour."

[Edited 8/3/12 11:49am]

I futher explained what I meant by it in later posts, yet once again you continue to pinpoint certain statements I have said.

By this I did not mean that he did not have vitiligo. I meant that if it was just vitiligo, his skin would be patchy. I was saying he used whitening creams to even out his skin colour, for his public image. As was found in his home and earlier confirmed by Katherine.

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Reply #1191 posted 08/03/12 1:25pm

Azz

allsmutaside said:

Yes, AZZ, someone checked. I don't know why you changed the line, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter why. I would ask that you give yourself a time-out from this thread. Your presence and constant assault is ruining a perfectly fine experience for rest of the org in here. Yes, you were baited and responded by coming back to the thread, but it really is time for you to show some restraint and self control. Without question your posts in this thread have been innacurate, poorly thought through, unnecessarily oppositional, or outright untruths. You don't always need to show out. Sometimes a person can "win" by simply doing the right thing, and right now the right thing for you to do is take a step back and show some, gain some, feel some ... maturity. Apply this concept throughout your life and you will find yourself with blessings you never realized you were blocking. You will win because these blessings you clearly seek will show up on your doorstep, seeking YOU out, wanting to know - "where have you been?."

I've already adressed that this is false previously

Allow me to adress the rest of your post.

I don't like the use of language you have presented; 'assualt', I have never attacked or used profanity. In fact, I have been the subject to profanity - which is being dealt with accordingly, yet still ongoing.

This thread would not be 'fine'. Why should a thread only express one illogical viewpoint. Whilst yes I am a fan of Janet (MJ also), my posts have been one of logic and rational and understanding in comparison to others. Others who have already have pre-concieved opinions, chose to beleive what they want to believe, and are somewhat delusional and biased.

I did leave the thread, as the conversation tended to bore me, as the participants were displaying a low level of intelligence and a high level of delusion in their posts. But as you said, I was baited and discredited because I was not posting. And yet you are calling me immature. You can't have things both ways, and expect me to stay silent or oblivious.

My posts have not been inacurate, because I have chosen and tend NOT to believe tabloids in comparison to others. Tabloids are the source of most of the inaccuracy which MJ fans chose to believe.


I am baffled as to what 'blessings' you are reffering to. I do not desire any blessings, and if I did, I would not come here to find them.

[Edited 8/3/12 13:27pm]

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Reply #1192 posted 08/03/12 1:44pm

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lazycrockett said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

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Y'all are not going to pin this shit on the ghetto. Ain't nobody in the ghetto crazy enough to try kidnapping their own mama! hammer

You forget they're from Indiana. biggrin

No I didn't. Their hood cards were revoked decades ago. lol

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I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
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Reply #1193 posted 08/03/12 5:11pm

Scorp

dag said:

Azz said:

I believe whitening creams were found in Michael Jackson's house. I'm pretty sure I remember reading something along those lines. Whether it was tabloid lies, remains to be seen. But it does support what katherine has said, and the fact that he managed to mostly be seen with one skin colour rather than patches on his face and arms.

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I should mentioned I'm a new member on this board

it's nice to meet the other participants who view any facet of Michael Jackson's life realistically after he reached the pinnacle of his career with Thriller

the number one topic regarding this entertainer for the past 25 years centers around this single issue, even moreso than the 1993 and 2003 allegations and the lineage of those 3 kids his current following, and commercial media continue to uphold

I'm one of those who appreciated the contribution from the entire Jackson family, for me, it was never about trying to tear down one member in order to build someone else up

In Michael's case, he became so successful during his years of glory, his original fanbase didn't have to resort in tearing down his siblings in order to make case for him, the talent, the music, and the entertainment he was delivering stood on its own merit

It was a very exciting time as this family was respected rather than pissed at and chopped down they way they are today, because of a series of lies led by the family's most successful member that is crushing them as we speak

It was awesome, because it was about the music, it was about success, it was about a dream, it was about a destinty, about a triumph, and a victory, culminating in the most celebrating album in music history

Jermaine, Marlon, Randy, Tito, Jackie, Janet, Rebbie all released stellar music at some point during the late 80s, before their careers were robbed and taken away from them

before Latoya tried to follow Michael's lead in exploiting their own family to facilitate career ambitions, Latoya possessed an attractive personality

ALL that good will, and that grace came crumbling down year by year as Michael Jackson sought the "king of pop" mantle, which required that he move beyond anything, ANYTHING relating to his real heritage

and it's been one flare up after another for the past 25 years

what could have been the greatest story has ended in the greatest tragedy and it all stems from this one issue, whether or not this man had a skin disorder

does his current fans realize what we are dealing with here, this was a man who had boatloads of plastic surgery and cosmetic alteration to generate what he thought would be the greatest commercial following ever realized

but what actually happened was his transformation offended the people who represented the majority of his original audience.....so for every fan he garnered by his transformation, he lost 3 fans along the way, and that disparity reflected in his record sales as BAD sold half of what THRILLER sold (as he wanted to sell 100,000,000 million copies of BAD), and during their initial run, Dangerous sold 5 million less than Bad, History sold 5 million less than Dangerous, and Sony "claimed" Invincible sold 10-12 million worldwide but I doubt that since there were only 3 singles released from that album before the project was virtually ran its course

this was serious business, real serious business, and I never found it funny, because the entertainment value became secondary as this guy was crying out, but his fans didn't want to listen, they were too caught up in the mix......

if he would have refrained from undergoing additional plastic surgery after THRILLER, all of his albums after that would have sold more than they actually did.....

for me, I would have always bought his music with him presenting his talent in his natural state, w/out having one surgery and that goes for any artist

BAD came blasting out the gate selling 16 million copies worldwide after 2 months after initial release and sales would hit a proverbial brickwall, especially here in the America

Thriller sold 25 million in this country alone, Bad reached 6-8 million, a 20 million decline in sales....that's staggering, that's never been seen before

What was the reason for the unanticipated setback....because logical thinking people were disturbed what he was doing to his appearance, especially the manner in which his skin complexion lightened drastically.........

for me, when I saw that BAD video premier, I knew off the bat what time it was, and the message he was sending, as a young black male watching that, to this day, that remains the most disappointing moment I've ever experienced as a follower of music, in my lifetime......

that hurt allot of people, including his own family (who his current fanbase and commercial media attack every single day) that's what his current fanbase doesn't understand and don't care to, because they are too busy seeking for their false sense of entitlment to be fulfilled.......

his transformation is rooted in Michael embracing the ideal racial indifference, which promotes hostility and division.....

he once had an audience who walked on one accord, but once he underwent that physical transformation, he created a divide, among those representing his original fanbase vs those who would evolve into becoming his current following over the past 25 years

it's tragic, because he COULD have maintained the support of his original following as garnered a new generation of fans......

this is what Janet Jackson was able to accomplish from the mid 80s up until the beginning of the new millineum, those fans who bought her debut album in 1982 would continue to buy her albums for the next 20 years....

people who try to uphold the lie about him living w/Vitiligo need to let that go, because he never had it....because that would reveal the real motivation as to why they began supporting him

do people realize from the time he released BAD until the time he conducted that interview with Oprah Winfrey in 1993, Michael Jackson never said anything about what was going on with his appeareance, that was over a period of 5 1/2 years....

and he would have never did it if he didnt have to, but he had to because Dangerous wasn't even charting in the Billboard top 100 by the time 1992 had ended....THAT'S the reason he had his people contact Oprah to schedule the interview.....TO BOOST SALES......

He never had it....the day after the interview, his sisters responded while conducting their own live interview w/a urban radio station and said point blank, there was nobody in their family who had a skin disorder as Michael contended.....

it was all a lie.....

and these pictures his fans post on youtube and the like trying to prove he had it, those pictures have been manipulated from their original take.....

like this first picture showing Mike performing during the Victory Tour.....w/his ear suffering from discoloration...that aint real....I've seen that picture a thousand times when it was originally taken in 1984 and he never had any discoloration

or the pictures w/spots on his body.......yeah, those are spots, by what are the real nature of the spots.....

is it really vitiligo, or vestiges of his origina skin color that would continously try to fight through the chemical process he engaged in that compromised natural pigment production?

if vitiligo inhibits the skins ability to produce pigment, then it COULD NOT produce colored spots, those brown spots on his body which started to appear in the mid/late 90s does not reveal vililigo.....

if he really had it, then his fans wouldn't have to resort to photoshopping pictures, docturing up pictures to prove he has it......

and it's always the same pictures, there's 7-10 pictures the fans love to rely on to prove he had it, when millions of pictures where taken of him throughout his career....

some fans even resort to suggesting he developed it as a child when Mike said during the Oprah interview he developed it during the years of Off The Wall "or" Thriller

He couldn't identify the specific period of time he developed...something as psychologically challenging as acquiring vitiligo, a person who really had it would remember exactly when they started to notice it, especially if it started appearing on his hands as the fans love to cling on to, saying that was the reason he started wearing the glittered glove, which that is a lie too, because he started wearing the glittered glove before he released Off The Wall,before the glove reached iconic status

there were performances he wore the glove on his left hand and on other occassions his right hand.........

he never had it....and because of the fact he deliberately changed his skin color, he lost the majority of his original fanbase the day that BAD video released in 1987

and as the years progressed, the man had to rely on propofol and demorol for 20 years to deal w/the pain and agony he took himself through by having the extreme amount of surgeries he had after THRILLER......

which by 2009, word had it that he developed skin cancer which he probably did because his skin became scaly and his fingernails evolved into a browning/orange color.....

it was heartbraking to see a black man, a human being do this too himself to placate an audience who never would have accepted him if he remained visibly black, and he self destructed as a result......

the lies have suffocated this family mightily and the way "king of pop" fans throughout the globe, the way commercial media attack them over the course of the past 20 years is a damn shame, but they never consider how they would deal with it if the shoe was on the other foot, they would fold like a tent.......

that was the source of his pain he uttered thru song as he sought the mantle, for he was never give the oppurtunity to embrace his blackness when he reached adulthood

this has been devastating in so many ways........

but people need to stop raggin on his family, they've never said anything negative towards the public..they even shown favor to MJ's current fans (even when they don't deserve it)......

I don't believe he molested children...I never believed that, but everything else he presented to the public as truth has been a lie and that's why the public became so cynical with him and stopped buying his music......

He was led to believe by opportunists in the record industry after reaching his career pinncale moving beyond his blackness would generate greater success than he already found but that advice wound up leading him to make the greatest miscalculation in the history of showbizness and we've all lost out as a result...there are no winners in this....and he lost out more than anybody.....

that's why he never released another body of music ever again after Invincible, because he knew what was up by then..

it stopped being about the music a long time ago

and racial indifference encouraged throught age of the pop ascension movement is what gave birth to the madness

[Edited 8/3/12 17:34pm]

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Scorp, is in the house! What's up! Like the minister said,"...make it plain!" lol

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Scorp said:

dag said:

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I should mentioned I'm a new member on this board

it's nice to meet the other participants who view any facet of Michael Jackson's life realistically after he reached the pinnacle of his career with Thriller

the number one topic regarding this entertainer for the past 25 years centers around this single issue, even moreso than the 1993 and 2003 allegations and the lineage of those 3 kids his current following, and commercial media continue to uphold

I'm one of those who appreciated the contribution from the entire Jackson family, for me, it was never about trying to tear down one member in order to build someone else up

In Michael's case, he became so successful during his years of glory, his original fanbase didn't have to resort in tearing down his siblings in order to make case for him, the talent, the music, and the entertainment he was delivering stood on its own merit

It was a very exciting time as this family was respected rather than pissed at and chopped down they way they are today, because of a series of lies led by the family's most successful member that is crushing them as we speak

It was awesome, because it was about the music, it was about success, it was about a dream, it was about a destinty, about a triumph, and a victory, culminating in the most celebrating album in music history

Jermaine, Marlon, Randy, Tito, Jackie, Janet, Rebbie all released stellar music at some point during the late 80s, before their careers were robbed and taken away from them

before Latoya tried to follow Michael's lead in exploiting their own family to facilitate career ambitions, Latoya possessed an attractive personality

ALL that good will, and that grace came crumbling down year by year as Michael Jackson sought the "king of pop" mantle, which required that he move beyond anything, ANYTHING relating to his real heritage

and it's been one flare up after another for the past 25 years

what could have been the greatest story has ended in the greatest tragedy and it all stems from this one issue, whether or not this man had a skin disorder

does his current fans realize what we are dealing with here, this was a man who had boatloads of plastic surgery and cosmetic alteration to generate what he thought would be the greatest commercial following ever realized

but what actually happened was his transformation offended the people who represented the majority of his original audience.....so for every fan he garnered by his transformation, he lost 3 fans along the way, and that disparity reflected in his record sales as BAD sold half of what THRILLER sold (as he wanted to sell 100,000,000 million copies of BAD), and during their initial run, Dangerous sold 5 million less than Bad, History sold 5 million less than Dangerous, and Sony "claimed" Invincible sold 10-12 million worldwide but I doubt that since there were only 3 singles released from that album before the project was virtually ran its course

this was serious business, real serious business, and I never found it funny, because the entertainment value became secondary as this guy was crying out, but his fans didn't want to listen, they were too caught up in the mix......

if he would have maintained his natural appearance up until THRILLER, all of his albums after that would have sold more than they actually did.....

BAD came blasting out the gate selling 16 million copies worldwide after 2 months after initial release and sales would hit a proverbial brickwall, especially here in the America

Thriller sold 25 million in this country alone, Bad reached 6-8 million, a 20 million decline in sales....that's staggering, that's never been seen before

What was the reason for the unanticipated setback....because logical thinking people were disurbed what he was doing to his appearance, especially the manner in which his skin complexion lightened drastically.........

for me, when I saw that BAD video premier, I knew off the bat what time it was, and the message he was sending, as a young black male watching that, to this day, that remains the most disappointing moment I've ever experienced as a follower of music, in my lifetime......

that hurt allot of people, including his own family (who his current fanbase and commercial media attack every single day) that's what his current fanbase doesn't understand and don't care to, because they are too busy seeking for their false sense of entitlment to be fulfilled.......

his transformation is rooted in Michael embracing the ideal racial ambivalence, which promotes hostility and division.....

he once had an audience who walked on one accord, but once he underwent that physical transformation, he created a divide, among those representing his original fanbase vs those who would evolve into becoming his current following over the past 25 years

it's tragic, because he COULD have maintained the support of his original following as garnered a new generation of fans......

this is what Janet Jackson was able to accomplish from the mid 80s up until the beginning of the new millineum, those fans who bought her debut album in 1982 would continue to buy her albums for the next 20 years....

people who try to uphold the lie about him living w/Vitiligo need to let that go, because he never had it....

do people realize from the time he released BAD until the time he conducted that interview with Oprah Winfrey in 1993, Michael Jackson never said anything about what was going on with his appeareance, that was over a period of 5 1/2 years....

and he would have never did it if he didnt have to, but he had to because Dangerous wasn't even charting in the Billboard top 100 by the 1992 had ended....THAT'S the reason he had his people contact Oprah to schedule the interview.....TO BOOST SALES......

He never had it....the day after the interview, his sisters responded while conducting their own live interview w/a urban radio station and said point blank, there was nobody in their family who had a skin disorder as Michael contended.....

it was all a lie.....

and these pictures his fans post on youtube and the like trying to prove he had it, those pictures have been manipulated from their original take.....

like this first picture showing Mike performing during the Victory Tour.....w/his ear suffering from discoloration...that aint real....I've seen that picture a thousand times when it was originally taken in 1984 and he never had any discoloration

or the pictures w/spots on his body.......yeah, those are spots, by what are the real nature of teh spots.....

is it really vitiligo, or vestiges of his origina skin color that would fight throught whatever attempts he was doing to eliminate his skin's ability to produce pigment?

Vitiligo DOES NOT produced colored spots, since it attacks the skins ability to produce pigment, vitiligo would produce discoloration......those brown spots on his body which started to appear in the mid/late 90s does not reveal vililigo.....

if he really had it, then his fans wouldn't have to resort to photoshopping pictures, docturing up pictures to prove he has it......

and it's always the same pictures, there's 7-10 pictures the fans love to rely on to prove he had it, when millions of pictures where taken of him throughout his career....

some fans even resort to suggesting he developed it as a child when Mike said during the Oprah interview he developed it during the years of Off The Wall "or" Thriller

He couldn't identify the specific period of time he developed...something as psychologically challenging as acquiring vitiligo, a person who really had it would remember exactly when they started to notice it, especially if it started appearing on his hands as the fans love to cling on to, saying that was the reason he started wearing the glittered glove, which that is a lie too, because he started wearing the glittered glove before he released Off The Wall, and before the glove reached iconic status, there were performances he wore the glove on his left hand and on other occassions his right hand.........

he never had it....and because of the fact he deliberately changed his skin color, he lost the majority of his original fanbase the day that BAD video released in 1987

and as the years progressed, the man had to rely on propofol and demorol for 20 years to deal w/the pain and agony he took himself through by having the extreme amount of surgeries he had after THRILLER......

which by 2009, word had it that he developed skin cancer which he probably did because his skin became scaly and his fingernails evolved into a browning/orange color.....

it was heartbraking to a black man, a human being do this too himself to placate an audience who never would have accepted him if he remained visibly black, and he self destructed as a result......

the lies have suffocated this family mightily and the way "king of pop" fans throughout the globe, the way commercial media attack them over the course of the past 20 years is a damn shame, but they never consider how they would deal with it if the shoe was on the other foot, they would fold like a tent.......

that was the source of his pain he uttered thru song as he sought the mantle, for he was never give the oppurtunity to embrace his blackness when he reached adulthood

this has been devastating in so many ways........

but people need to stop raggin on his family, they've never said anything negative towards the public..they even shown favor to MJ's current fans (even when they don't deserve it)......

I don't believe he molested children...I never believed that, but everything else he presented to the public as truth has been a lie and that's why the public became so cynical with him and stopped buying his music......

He was led to believe by opportunists in the record industry after reaching his career pinncale moving beyond his blackness would generate greater success than he already found but that advice wound up leading him to make the greatest miscalculation in the history of showbizness and we've all lost out as a result...there are no winners in this....and he lost out more than anybody.....

that's why he never released another body of music ever again after Invincible, because he knew what was up by then..

it stopped being about the music a long time ago

and racial indifference encouraged throught age of the pop ascencion movement is what gave birth to the madness

Interesting.

I always wondered why if he had vitiligo, his skin colour changed far after adolescence.

But the autospy revealed that Michael did in fact have vitiligo.

Aswell as "In addition to propofol, the autopsy revealed that Jackson had a veritable pharmacy flowing in his veins, with traces of lidocaine, diazepam, nordiazepam, lorazepam, midazolam and ephedrine in his blood."

Which proves he was addicted to drugs. So this whole "Janet threw him under the bus" is a lie, because she staged interventions etc to help solve his drug problem. But unfortunately Michael couldn't accept that he was, and eventually surrounded himself with the wrong people, blocking out his family.

[Edited 8/3/12 17:34pm]

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Reply #1196 posted 08/03/12 5:35pm

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dag said:

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I should mentioned I'm a new member on this board

it's nice to meet the other participants who view any facet of Michael Jackson's life realistically after he reached the pinnacle of his career with Thriller

the number one topic regarding this entertainer for the past 25 years centers around this single issue, even moreso than the 1993 and 2003 allegations and the lineage of those 3 kids his current following, and commercial media continue to uphold

I'm one of those who appreciated the contribution from the entire Jackson family, for me, it was never about trying to tear down one member in order to build someone else up

In Michael's case, he became so successful during his years of glory, his original fanbase didn't have to resort in tearing down his siblings in order to make case for him, the talent, the music, and the entertainment he was delivering stood on its own merit

It was a very exciting time as this family was respected rather than pissed at and chopped down they way they are today, because of a series of lies led by the family's most successful member that is crushing them as we speak

It was awesome, because it was about the music, it was about success, it was about a dream, it was about a destinty, about a triumph, and a victory, culminating in the most celebrating album in music history

Jermaine, Marlon, Randy, Tito, Jackie, Janet, Rebbie all released stellar music at some point during the late 80s, before their careers were robbed and taken away from them

before Latoya tried to follow Michael's lead in exploiting their own family to facilitate career ambitions, Latoya possessed an attractive personality

ALL that good will, and that grace came crumbling down year by year as Michael Jackson sought the "king of pop" mantle, which required that he move beyond anything, ANYTHING relating to his real heritage

and it's been one flare up after another for the past 25 years

what could have been the greatest story has ended in the greatest tragedy and it all stems from this one issue, whether or not this man had a skin disorder

does his current fans realize what we are dealing with here, this was a man who had boatloads of plastic surgery and cosmetic alteration to generate what he thought would be the greatest commercial following ever realized

but what actually happened was his transformation offended the people who represented the majority of his original audience.....so for every fan he garnered by his transformation, he lost 3 fans along the way, and that disparity reflected in his record sales as BAD sold half of what THRILLER sold (as he wanted to sell 100,000,000 million copies of BAD), and during their initial run, Dangerous sold 5 million less than Bad, History sold 5 million less than Dangerous, and Sony "claimed" Invincible sold 10-12 million worldwide but I doubt that since there were only 3 singles released from that album before the project was virtually ran its course

this was serious business, real serious business, and I never found it funny, because the entertainment value became secondary as this guy was crying out, but his fans didn't want to listen, they were too caught up in the mix......

if he would have maintained his natural appearance up until THRILLER, all of his albums after that would have sold more than they actually did.....

BAD came blasting out the gate selling 16 million copies worldwide after 2 months after initial release and sales would hit a proverbial brickwall, especially here in the America

Thriller sold 25 million in this country alone, Bad reached 6-8 million, a 20 million decline in sales....that's staggering, that's never been seen before

What was the reason for the unanticipated setback....because logical thinking people were disurbed what he was doing to his appearance, especially the manner in which his skin complexion lightened drastically.........

for me, when I saw that BAD video premier, I knew off the bat what time it was, and the message he was sending, as a young black male watching that, to this day, that remains the most disappointing moment I've ever experienced as a follower of music, in my lifetime......

that hurt allot of people, including his own family (who his current fanbase and commercial media attack every single day) that's what his current fanbase doesn't understand and don't care to, because they are too busy seeking for their false sense of entitlment to be fulfilled.......

his transformation is rooted in Michael embracing the ideal racial ambivalence, which promotes hostility and division.....

he once had an audience who walked on one accord, but once he underwent that physical transformation, he created a divide, among those representing his original fanbase vs those who would evolve into becoming his current following over the past 25 years

it's tragic, because he COULD have maintained the support of his original following as garnered a new generation of fans......

this is what Janet Jackson was able to accomplish from the mid 80s up until the beginning of the new millineum, those fans who bought her debut album in 1982 would continue to buy her albums for the next 20 years....

people who try to uphold the lie about him living w/Vitiligo need to let that go, because he never had it....

do people realize from the time he released BAD until the time he conducted that interview with Oprah Winfrey in 1993, Michael Jackson never said anything about what was going on with his appeareance, that was over a period of 5 1/2 years....

and he would have never did it if he didnt have to, but he had to because Dangerous wasn't even charting in the Billboard top 100 by the 1992 had ended....THAT'S the reason he had his people contact Oprah to schedule the interview.....TO BOOST SALES......

He never had it....the day after the interview, his sisters responded while conducting their own live interview w/a urban radio station and said point blank, there was nobody in their family who had a skin disorder as Michael contended.....

it was all a lie.....

and these pictures his fans post on youtube and the like trying to prove he had it, those pictures have been manipulated from their original take.....

like this first picture showing Mike performing during the Victory Tour.....w/his ear suffering from discoloration...that aint real....I've seen that picture a thousand times when it was originally taken in 1984 and he never had any discoloration

or the pictures w/spots on his body.......yeah, those are spots, by what are the real nature of teh spots.....

is it really vitiligo, or vestiges of his origina skin color that would fight throught whatever attempts he was doing to eliminate his skin's ability to produce pigment?

Vitiligo DOES NOT produced colored spots, since it attacks the skins ability to produce pigment, vitiligo would produce discoloration......those brown spots on his body which started to appear in the mid/late 90s does not reveal vililigo.....

if he really had it, then his fans wouldn't have to resort to photoshopping pictures, docturing up pictures to prove he has it......

and it's always the same pictures, there's 7-10 pictures the fans love to rely on to prove he had it, when millions of pictures where taken of him throughout his career....

some fans even resort to suggesting he developed it as a child when Mike said during the Oprah interview he developed it during the years of Off The Wall "or" Thriller

He couldn't identify the specific period of time he developed...something as psychologically challenging as acquiring vitiligo, a person who really had it would remember exactly when they started to notice it, especially if it started appearing on his hands as the fans love to cling on to, saying that was the reason he started wearing the glittered glove, which that is a lie too, because he started wearing the glittered glove before he released Off The Wall, and before the glove reached iconic status, there were performances he wore the glove on his left hand and on other occassions his right hand.........

he never had it....and because of the fact he deliberately changed his skin color, he lost the majority of his original fanbase the day that BAD video released in 1987

and as the years progressed, the man had to rely on propofol and demorol for 20 years to deal w/the pain and agony he took himself through by having the extreme amount of surgeries he had after THRILLER......

which by 2009, word had it that he developed skin cancer which he probably did because his skin became scaly and his fingernails evolved into a browning/orange color.....

it was heartbraking to a black man, a human being do this too himself to placate an audience who never would have accepted him if he remained visibly black, and he self destructed as a result......

the lies have suffocated this family mightily and the way "king of pop" fans throughout the globe, the way commercial media attack them over the course of the past 20 years is a damn shame, but they never consider how they would deal with it if the shoe was on the other foot, they would fold like a tent.......

that was the source of his pain he uttered thru song as he sought the mantle, for he was never give the oppurtunity to embrace his blackness when he reached adulthood

this has been devastating in so many ways........

but people need to stop raggin on his family, they've never said anything negative towards the public..they even shown favor to MJ's current fans (even when they don't deserve it)......

I don't believe he molested children...I never believed that, but everything else he presented to the public as truth has been a lie and that's why the public became so cynical with him and stopped buying his music......

He was led to believe by opportunists in the record industry after reaching his career pinncale moving beyond his blackness would generate greater success than he already found but that advice wound up leading him to make the greatest miscalculation in the history of showbizness and we've all lost out as a result...there are no winners in this....and he lost out more than anybody.....

that's why he never released another body of music ever again after Invincible, because he knew what was up by then..

it stopped being about the music a long time ago

and racial indifference encouraged throught age of the pop ascencion movement is what gave birth to the madness

PREACH!! And welcome aboard!

"Get up off that grey line"
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Reply #1197 posted 08/03/12 5:37pm

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Addictive drugs such as lorazepam were found in his system. A common drug found in dead drug addicts.

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Reply #1198 posted 08/03/12 5:40pm

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Azz said:

Scorp said:

Interesting.

I always wondered why if he had vitiligo, his skin colour changed far after adolescence.

But the autospy revealed that Michael did in fact have vitiligo.

Aswell as "In addition to propofol, the autopsy revealed that Jackson had a veritable pharmacy flowing in his veins, with traces of lidocaine, diazepam, nordiazepam, lorazepam, midazolam and ephedrine in his blood."

Which proves he was addicted to drugs. So this whole "Janet threw him under the bus" is a lie, because she staged interventions etc to help solve his drug problem. But unfortunately Michael couldn't accept that he was, and eventually surrounded himself with the wrong people, blocking out his family.

[Edited 8/3/12 17:34pm]

THIS. The woman did nothing but be there for him and help him in life, so where some of these folks are getting that she told lies about him and "threw him under the bus" after his death is anybody's guess. I have never heard Janet do anything but speak about her brother with love.

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Reply #1199 posted 08/03/12 5:45pm

Scorp

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Scorp said: exactly...his family never threw him under the bus, if anything they have expressed a great deal of love for him, even after his superficial image was crushing him

That's why Jermaine released Word To The Badd in 1991, because there was no other way to communicate with Michael as he said Michael only spoke to the family 8 times over a two year period up to that point

and the only people willing to support the lie was those who never had his best interest at heart to begin with, because people who would have would not have involved themselves w/the madness

the family was trying to stage interventions for years, but it's hard to accomplish that when he wouldn't let them know were he was half the time

his body was shot from years of abusing it, everything broke down at onc

I stopped seeking the entertainment value when there was no longer reason to

I would like to see how his fans would react if their families were attacked by the globe on a daily basis for 20 years.......I can't even begin to imagine how that would be like....the entire situation is wrong.......

Interesting.

I always wondered why if he had vitiligo, his skin colour changed far after adolescence.

But the autospy revealed that Michael did in fact have vitiligo.

Aswell as "In addition to propofol, the autopsy revealed that Jackson had a veritable pharmacy flowing in his veins, with traces of lidocaine, diazepam, nordiazepam, lorazepam, midazolam and ephedrine in his blood."

Which proves he was addicted to drugs. So this whole "Janet threw him under the bus" is a lie, because she staged interventions etc to help solve his drug problem. But unfortunately Michael couldn't accept that he was, and eventually surrounded himself with the wrong people, blocking out his family.

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