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Reply #90 posted 07/25/12 11:56pm

Free2BMe

CynicKill said:

Was I the only one that was a little shocked when they heard Michael left the siblings NOTHING in his will?

I know I know, they supposedly had a difficult history, but Michael was worth hundreds of millions of dollars at his death. I thought he was really close to LaToya and close to Janet, Rebe and Tito.

Couldn't a bruh at least set them up with houses and a few mil?

Janet I feel is being unfairly maligned. As previously noted Michael had issues and I figured drugs were a major part of them. I mean didn't he have a pharmacy's worth of drugs in his medicine cabinet? There were reports of prescription drugs taken for everything from burns to broken legs and what not. If Janet was wishy washy during an interview about some intervention could you blame her?

She was caught between being forthcoming AND not wanting to damage his legacy.

How the hell is Janet being unfailry maligned when she has BOTH FEET in this shit that's happening. Have you been keeping up with what she is doing? She has been acting like a bitch and people are calling her out on it.

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Reply #91 posted 07/25/12 11:56pm

Ottensen

kibbles said:

Red said:

Dayum - some of you are so freakin harsh. Do you even know an 82 year old on high blood pressure pills and who knows what else? This woman has been under incredible pressure since Michael left - looking after all those kids. Most women Katherine's age could certainly NOT handle it. Do any of you even know what it's like raising spoiled teens? Miraval IS a place that you don't want to have a phone, especially if you've booked yourself multiple specialist/medical appts while there. My mother's 85 - on blood pressure meds and when her pressure's up for whatever reason/stress - she slurs - and that's the least of it. Y'all ridiculous. I'm sure this is about spoiled children and greedy family. Poor woman can't even escape for a week. If I needed to get away from it all - I sure as hell wouldn't tell them where I was going either.

Have a heart people.

no one is saying that kat can't take a vacation. the crux of issue is why she couldn't have at least taken one phone call from paris - just one - in all that time, esp. when the girl is tweeting all over the universe? if she is a guardian, at least call her up and lay down your authority and tell her to stop doing that.

have a heart? i could say the same for katherine. she wants to get away from it all, but she certainly had visitors judging by the photos the family released. i guess she just didn't want to be around mj's kids, which must make them feel really, really, really great.

if she's so overwhelmed by mj3, then why is she going to fight tj for guardianship? maybe you answered that question: greedy family. the real money goes where ever the kids are.

That's incorrect under estate law.

The Guardian of orphans only manages the person, and may be allowed a house to properly raise them in, manages their lives from day to day, makes decisions on their behalf regarding their schooling, health and medical needs.

The Executor of the estate is the one who has their hands in the money as they manage it from day to day and invest it on behalf of the children. They are responsible for distributing the funds for the children's living expenses, and can invest it as they wish, but of course are expected to exercise prudence.If one can control the executor (s), then they control the direction of the fortune, how the money is made, etc.

This is why I am seriously skeptical of someone challenging executors who were able to bring an estate like this that was so deeply in debt to gross over a billion dollars, and additionally assist Mrs. Jackson in managing her own personal funds to bring her out of debt as well. If Jermaine hadn't already displayed so much opportunistic behavior after hsi brother's passing I would be a little more giving on my theory. But frankly, all I see (in my mind), are some lazy brothers who want to engineer puppets into place as Executors so they can construct all sorts of cockamamey deals using their brother's name where they can get cuts and kickbacks ad infinitum and allow them to keep living off the deceased. twocents

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Reply #92 posted 07/25/12 11:57pm

Ottensen

lazycrockett said:

^Bitch not Brat.

fishslap Such nastiness! wink

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Reply #93 posted 07/26/12 12:07am

Vanilli

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I'm on Team Jackson 3! lol

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Reply #94 posted 07/26/12 12:12am

Ottensen

Vanilli said:

I'm on Team Jackson 3! lol

Wait, which one is that? It's getting hard to keep track falloff

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Reply #95 posted 07/26/12 12:13am

musicology54

Vanilli said:

I'm on Team Jackson 3! lol


Count me in.
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Reply #96 posted 07/26/12 12:29am

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Ottensen said:

Vanilli said:

I'm on Team Jackson 3! lol

Wait, which one is that? It's getting hard to keep track falloff

Auntie Ottie! :hug: To think I decide to end my Org hiatus and I come back to this :falloff: This needs to get resolved soon
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #97 posted 07/26/12 12:34am

claudiax

I'm on Team latoya! lol

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Reply #98 posted 07/26/12 12:37am

musicology54

claudiax said:

I'm on Team latoya! lol


eek awkward.




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Reply #99 posted 07/26/12 12:48am

Vanilli

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musicology54 said:

claudiax said:

I'm on Team latoya! lol

eek awkward. razz

lol

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Reply #100 posted 07/26/12 12:58am

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Reply #101 posted 07/26/12 12:59am

musicology54

Thank god This thread is more peaceful at midnight.
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Reply #102 posted 07/26/12 1:02am

SoulAlive

It seems that each day,there is a new shocker.I wonder what today's big headline will be nuts

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Reply #103 posted 07/26/12 1:05am

musicology54

SoulAlive said:

It seems that each day,there is a new shocker.I wonder what today's big headline will be nuts


And you know when there's headline there's bound to be a new defender.
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Reply #104 posted 07/26/12 1:20am

Free2BMe

helena36 said:

CynicKill said:

Was I the only one that was a little shocked when they heard Michael left the siblings NOTHING in his will?

I know I know, they supposedly had a difficult history, but Michael was worth hundreds of millions of dollars at his death. I thought he was really close to LaToya and close to Janet, Rebe and Tito.

I wasn't to be honest. I remember thinking, well, guess all his resentment and frustration at being bullied and guilted into paying for whatever and whoever finally came out. Too bad he couldn't do it before he died. It might have cleared the air.

The public perception of his relationship with the family seems stuck in the 80s. He never spoke to Latoya again except at the big family gatherings after the stunt she pulled in the 90's. The meet-ups like the BET James Brown thing and stuff? All arranged by Latoya without MJ's knowledge and he was less than welcoming when he found out.

He wasn't close to any of the family except for his mother. This was someone who said regarding his family that he didn't trust any of them except for Kate and went on to add "...and her, I wonder about sometime."

[Edited 7/25/12 21:35pm]

I agree. All ypu have to do is see how she treated the kids in this situation. All she had to do was to pick up a phone and call these kids. Instead, the LIED and said that she didn't have or want any phones around. I don't trust her at all. To think that Michael trusted her with his kids. I fear for thos hcildren in the care of Katherine, especially after what janet and randy did. Paris showed more dignigy than Janet. Seriously, I can't believe how low Janet is acting.Is she THAT desperate?

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Reply #105 posted 07/26/12 1:22am

claudiax

Vanilli said:

musicology54 said:

claudiax said: eek awkward. razz

lol

[Edited 7/26/12 1:26am]

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Reply #106 posted 07/26/12 1:22am

Free2BMe

SEANMAN said:

Michael was also close to Janet. He may not have seen her often, but they were close. He reached out to her during several pivotal moments in his life and career. He spoke via satellite at her MTV ICON show. She told Robin Roberts about their last conversation, a few days before he died, and that he sat across from her and they laughed like it was old times. It's so sad to me that people would think she is in any way, shape or form trying to steal and/or disrespect his legacy.

Janet is a LIAR! She lied about the so-called "intervention" and therefore, I don't trust ANYTHING that she says. She has ZERO credibility.

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Reply #107 posted 07/26/12 1:24am

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luv4u said:

This could take a toll on Katherine's health ..... even kill her. eek

If it does, her OWN children who concocted this mess will only have THEMSELVES to blame. They are the reason for ALL of this shit that is happening. The buck/vblame stops with them.

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Reply #108 posted 07/26/12 1:30am

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NaughtyKitty said:

KATHERINE JACKSON
Guardianship Ruling
"BASED ON LIES"

BREAKING NEWS
072512_katherine_jackson_nightline_launch_v2Katherine Jackson is challenging the court ruling that temporarily stripped her of guardianship of Michael Jackson's children -- and claiming she never wanted TJ Jackson to step into the role ... despite court documents stating otherwise.

In a taped segment for ABC's "Nightline" ... Katherine read prepared comments from a notebook, and said -- "Their ruling in court today was about the guardianship, and I think it was based on a bunch of lies. But I have a good idea who's doing that ... who's behind it."

Katherine went on to say she spoke to TJ last night and "told him it wasn't necessary for him to go down and sign up for guardianship, but I don't know who instructed him to do that ... 'cause he wanted me to come home before that happened."

It's a strange statement because Katherine seems to be acknowledging she knew TJ was going to file for guardianship ... but not before she got home.

In fact, as we reported earlier, TJ stated in court docs that Katherine "supported" him taking steps to protect Michael's kids.

The whole TV segment seemed almost like a hostage situation as Katherine was surrounded by Janet, Jermaine, Rebbie, Rebbie's daughter and, for some reason, the marketing director for the Tucson spa where Katherine's been for more than a week. A local news reporter was in the room, but was not allowed to ask questions.

As for leaving Prince, Paris, and Blanket alone in L.A. -- Katherine claimed she left instructions about who was to take care of them while she was gone ... though she didn't name anyone specifically.

The 82-year old also said during her absence her assistant had been keeping in touch with her grandchildren -- and that she didn't personally call "because I just gave up my phone. I didn't want to have any phone calls."

TJ JACKSON
Katherine WANTED ME
to Take the Kids

EXCLUSIVE DETAILS
0725_tj_katherine_jackson_getty_tmz
Katherine Jackson SUPPORTED TJ Jackson's efforts to obtain temporary guardianship of Michael Jackson's 3 children ... so says TJ in court docs obtained by TMZ.

TJ filed the docs with the court before today's hearing -- and in the papers, TJ claims Katherine was being manipulated by family members who were hellbent on controlling Katherine.

In fact, TJ claims one of his aunts -- either Janet or Rebbie -- arranged for a person to IMPERSONATE A DOCTOR to convince Katherine to blow off a concert series and instead fly with her conspiratorial children to Arizona.

TJ claims he had been assisting with the care of MJ's children since MJ died ... and even before Katherine disappeared, she placed them in his care.

According to the docs, TJ claims he finally spoke with Katherine on July 24 -- and during the conversation, she "indicated to me that she supported me in taking steps that I deemed appropriate to protect [MJ's children]."

TJ was eventually awarded temporary guardianship over Paris, Prince and Blanket.

After the hearing, Katherine contradicted TJ's story ... insisting she was "devastated" by the court's decision.

This is an embarrassment. Either Katherine is going along with this shit and doesn't give a damn about her grandkids or Janet, Randy, Rebbie and Jermaine are FORCING her to say what she READ. From looking at Janet and Jermaine they look scared as hell and KNOW that they are in DEEP SHIT! Rebbie looks like a damn Stepford Wife. Can't stand her either. Sneaky witch.

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Reply #109 posted 07/26/12 1:30am

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Reply #110 posted 07/26/12 1:39am

Free2BMe

claudiax said:

Are the COWARDLY Jackon Family Defenders going to act like bitches and berate and belittle Marlon like you did Paris? A CHILD whose ONLY concern was the welfare and health of her mother. Come on cowards, let's see if you going to treat Marlon like you did a CHILD for speaking out about not knowing where his mother has been. ... I am waiting to see what you hypocritical cowards are going to say now.

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Reply #111 posted 07/26/12 2:02am

SoulAlive

musicology54 said:

SoulAlive said:

It seems that each day,there is a new shocker.I wonder what today's big headline will be nuts

And you know when there's headline there's bound to be a new defender.

nod

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Reply #112 posted 07/26/12 2:05am

SoulAlive

Free2BMe said:

luv4u said:

This could take a toll on Katherine's health ..... even kill her. eek

If it does, her OWN children who concocted this mess will only have THEMSELVES to blame. They are the reason for ALL of this shit that is happening. The buck/vblame stops with them.

Exactly nod her own children don't even realize what they're doing to their mother (emotionally and healthwise).All of this drama and tension isn't good for anybody,especially someone in their 80s.

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Reply #113 posted 07/26/12 2:09am

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Unbelievable.

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #114 posted 07/26/12 2:28am

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my mom is home she look and sound great.

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #115 posted 07/26/12 2:48am

TypoQueen

So Katherine first port of call is a tv interview and NOT her grandchildren mad that is so very wrong!!
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Reply #116 posted 07/26/12 2:51am

dag

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TypoQueen said:

So Katherine first port of call is a tv interview and NOT her grandchildren mad that is so very wrong!!

Exactly my thoughts. I was wondering how come she has time to sit down at a press conferense, but can't call grandchildren and authorities to stop having the guardianship being taken away from her.

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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #117 posted 07/26/12 3:00am

SoulAlive

I've been reading some of the letters posted on CNN.Here's one....

I lost all respect for Janet Jackson and the rest of the family. They seem to be after the money which Michael purposely didn't want them to have because he hated most of them. He cut them all off except his mother. No judge will invalidate the will and the children are old enough to tell a judge what they want and they don't want Janet or the other losers to take care of them. They lived off Michael for years and now they are truly desperate, the money must be running out since they want to live a lifestyle they cannot afford because they have no talent. Janet was the only one with a little talent but she hasn't had a hit in years.

eek

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Reply #118 posted 07/26/12 3:01am

SoulAlive

another one....

Katherine Jackson is returning home after all the negative publicity. She probably was not allowed to watch television where she was, otherwise, she would have found out a few days ago what is going on and the real reason her children coax her to Arizona. Instead of the grown children helping their elderly mother take care of those grandchildren, they seem to be out for the loot. Now I see why Michael cut them off his will and had kept them at arms length for many years. My heart really goes out to this woman and her grandchildren.

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Reply #119 posted 07/26/12 3:07am

SoulAlive

from reading these letters (and comments posted on other sites),it seems that alot people think that Katherine's own children "kidnapped" her eek She denies this and maybe it wasn't an actual "kidnapping",but it does seem like maybe they 'coaxed' her out of her home for awhile.Notice how,when she was gone,that's when the letter was sent out to the media and that's when Janet and Randy went to the home and tried to get MJ's kids to go with them.They waited until after Katherine was gone to put their plan into motion.

I don't know....it just seems odd that everything suddenly got crazy once Katherine was out of town hmmm "let's send mother away and then we can start our plan"

Who agrees?

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