SoulAlive said:

isn't it absurd that we're now talking about restraining orders against family members? that's how crazy this situation has become.Jermaine,Randy,Janet and Rebbie did so much damage to their own family.They should be ashamed and embarrased.

Exacatly. Janet, Randy, Jermaine and Rebbie brought all of this upon themselves. They have embarrased the family with THEIR deception. It's not as if someone else did this to them or accused them of something that they didn't do. THEY DID THIS TO THEMSELVES! It's embarrassing for them and their defenders. None of this would have happened had it not been for their GREED!

babynoz said:

kibbles said:

if janet wants to visit her mother at kat's house, then maybe she should buy one for her, put kat's name on the deed, and then katherine wouldn't have to worry about the so-called evil estate. she should have done it along time ago, truth be told.

you're right it will cause more drama, because there is nothing stopping the others who are able to go into the house from interceding on behalf of those that are excluded. the estate is underestimating the fact that the jacksons are going to stick together no matter what.

I tend to agree, but then more drama will be forthcoming regardless.

Question...do you think it would have been better for the estate to petition the court for a temporary restraining order? I'm not sure about Cali but in our jurisdiction a court order would be the way to deal with that issue and it can be done by the guardian ad litem on behalf of a minor.

A court ordered cooling off period where all parties are ordered to stay away from each other would carry more weight and each side would have to present their case at a hearing.

I wonder too if Janet ever considered having mom come live with her instead of in a separate house but maybe Mama Kate don't wanna live with any of them?

maybe the estate didn't want to go that far, as a restraining order is usually issued where there is the potential for extreme violence and fear i.e., abusive boyfriends. i wouldn't put the jacksons in that category...yet. given randy's past behavior, though, i wouldn't rule out his potential for violence. so i think they took the precautions they could, and hopefully this will bring about the 'cooling off' period w/o further action.

TypoQueen said:

SoulAlive said:

If Janet,Jermaine,Rebbie or Randy wants to see their mother,they can simply invite her over to their own homes.Or invite to a restaurant for lunch.For the time being,it's not a good idea for them to be around MJ's children.There's still alot of anger and bitterness,and the last thing that Katherine needs is another family argument in her driveway.

^ Agree. As someone else said, one of them could purchase Katherine a house and make sure she had no financial worries so that she could live her twilight years with no worries. I do wonder why none of them have done this before I am sure the majority of us on this thread would have done this for our loved ones

im sure if janet agreed to do this she would want her mother away from the estate completely, including mike's kids. i doubt katherine would agree to leave the kids, she lost her son and those kids probably makes her feel like she still has a part of him.they may not be his blood but he raised em so in his mothers eyes they are his.

SoulAlive said:

isn't it absurd that we're now talking about restraining orders against family members? that's how crazy this situation has become.Jermaine,Randy,Janet and Rebbie did so much damage to their own family.They should be ashamed and embarrased.

poor mrs. jackson, i wonder how she is sleeping. wow how can these people put mrs. jackson through such stress.

Does anyone know where Randy actually lives now? IIRC he and his kids and Alejandra were all staying at the Hayvenhurst home. And then when KJ and P, P, & B moved to the Calabasas home when Hayvenhurst was getting renovated, Alejandra and her kids moved into a condo that the Estate paid for right? So where is Randy living--back at Hayvenhurst?

NaughtyKitty said:

Does anyone know where Randy actually lives now? IIRC he and his kids and Alejandra were all staying at the Hayvenhurst home. And then when KJ and P, P, & B moved to the Calabasas home when Hayvenhurst was getting renovated, Alejandra and her kids moved into a condo that the Estate paid for right? So where is Randy living--back at Hayvenhurst?

That was a utterly ridiculous how Katherine had to get Estate involved when Alejandra did not want to move her ass out

Who knows where that hobo lives..... At first I kinda had respect for Randy because he didnt do the show and it appear he wasnt trying to profit off Michael... Boy was I wrong

mancabdriver said:

this Free2BMe said:

Agree. Janet is shady as hell and no excuses by her delusional stanatics will nullify that. She is the RING LEADER in this deception because she feels that her stans, media and puiblic will forgive her because she is Janet Jackson. It looks as if she is correct about her stans, they will forgive her even if she murdered someone. They are that pathetic. I don't know how much clearer her involvement has to be before these delusional stans see how far Janet's ass is involved. Even Paris, a 14 year-old girl has admitted that Janet did not slap her and that she did not cuss Janet out.

However, this cowardly fake heifer sits back and ALLOWS her stans and other people like Gladys Knight to bash this girl for no reason. Janet knows why she was trying to take Paris' cell phone, it was because Paris exposed their scheme. To do a CHILD like that is inexcusable. Janet's cowardice is almost as upsetting as the scam that she and her siblings tried to pull. I can bet that she wouldn't have walked up to Prince and tried to take his cell phone. Her actions toward Paris shows more envy than that of a concerned "aunt". These kids iknow that Janet is full of shit. They know what she has tried to do to her own brother and their father since his death. This entire scam that she is involved in is based on Jealousy,greed and the fact that she wants to be that's in charge of things. Can one imagine the outrage that these ignorant Janet stans would have had IF Michael had done the same thing to her, his mother, or any of his nieces and nephews. Of course, since it is Fake Ass Janet jackson, let's just forget that she LIED, used deception, tried to manipulate the public and allowed KIDS to take the heat for what SHE did. What a person to defend, stanatics! I wonder what you people are going to do when her next scam blows up in her face?

Can someone please buy this person a life?

X INFINITY

The Jackson Family is spiraling out-of-control. After a bitter argument with her niece, Paris, Janet Jackson has gone missing!

Katherine Jackson was reported missing and her grandchildren (Michael’s kids) – Paris, Prince and Blanket – were worried sick. Paris Jackson waited at home Sunday, hoping for a phone call from her grandmother, the woman who has cared for her since her father, Michael Jackson, died three years ago.

“Yes, my grandmother is missing,” Paris Jackson, 14, tweeted Sunday morning. “I haven’t spoken with her in a week i want her home now.”

A nephew reported Jackson family matriarch Katherine Jackson, 82, missing late Saturday after her grandchildren were unable to get in touch with her for a week.

But Katherine was found. It is all part of a messy battle between several of Michael’s siblings and Michael’s children.

Jackson’s nephew, Trent, filed a report with the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Office. But one of her sons involved in the dispute said in a series of Twitter postings Friday that Katherine Jackson was fine and resting in Arizona.

I want to reassure everyone that Mother is fine but is resting up in AZ on the orders of a doctor, not us,” Jermaine Jackson tweeted.

“This is our mother and her health is paramount. We are not inventing or plotting anything. We are following doctor’s advice. Period,” he added.

But rumors are that Jermaine and Janet have teamed up to prove that Michael’s will is invalid. They reportedly assert that the fact that they don’t get any money – has nothing to do with their fight.

“We just want Michael’s wishes to be granted in full. He would want his siblings to have a good portion of his estate. We were always a close-knit family. It’s what he wanted.”

“No way, they don’t get anything,” said an attorney for Michael’s kids. ”The kids get 40% of Michael’s money, 20% goes to charity and 40% goes to Katherine – until she passes, then that money goes to the kids.”

Oops, that leaves out Michael’s siblings.

When Paris Jackson called her aunts Rebbie and Janet over the past several days to find her grandmother, she was told each time she could not speak to her.

Katherine Jackson ”has never gone 24 hours without talking to her kids,” she said. “I’m concerned that she would never do this. We have no idea what’s going on with her. No one has talked to her.”

Janet met Paris at their home in Encino and Janet reportedly called Paris a “spoiled little b****” during an “ambush”.

Police were called as Janet, along with brothers Randy and Jermaine stormed the children’s house as the feud between the warring clan erupted into open warfare.

Paris responded to Janet by saying: ”This is our house. Not the Jackson family house. Get the f*** out!”

And then… Janet went missing. She hasn’t been seen for 24 hours and Jermaine is concerned.

Sources close to Jermaine say that he fears “Paris and her henchmen” have done “something awful” to Janet.

The family is worried sick about Janet, but Michael’s children say they have no idea what happened to her.

Diana Ross has agreed to mediate in the Jackson Family Feud but Paris had this to say about that, “who the hell is Diana Ross?”

Meanwhile, Michael prays for peace in his family.

If you have information on the whereabouts of Janet Jackson please contact WWN immediately…

http://weeklyworldnews.co...n-missing/

For those who dont know, Weekly World News writes fictional, satire news. This story is a fake!

[Edited 7/30/12 10:32am]

[Edited 7/30/12 10:33am]

^

NaughtyKitty said:

Does anyone know where Randy actually lives now? IIRC he and his kids and Alejandra were all staying at the Hayvenhurst home. And then when KJ and P, P, & B moved to the Calabasas home when Hayvenhurst was getting renovated, Alejandra and her kids moved into a condo that the Estate paid for right? So where is Randy living--back at Hayvenhurst?

none of the brothers were living there, alejandra was there with the 4 kids she had with randy and jermaine, plus the extra kid donte that nobody really knows who he belongs to

NaughtyKitty said:

The Jackson Family is spiraling out-of-control. After a bitter argument with her niece, Paris, Janet Jackson has gone missing!

Katherine Jackson was reported missing and her grandchildren (Michael’s kids) – Paris, Prince and Blanket – were worried sick. Paris Jackson waited at home Sunday, hoping for a phone call from her grandmother, the woman who has cared for her since her father, Michael Jackson, died three years ago.

“Yes, my grandmother is missing,” Paris Jackson, 14, tweeted Sunday morning. “I haven’t spoken with her in a week i want her home now.”

A nephew reported Jackson family matriarch Katherine Jackson, 82, missing late Saturday after her grandchildren were unable to get in touch with her for a week.

But Katherine was found. It is all part of a messy battle between several of Michael’s siblings and Michael’s children.

Jackson’s nephew, Trent, filed a report with the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Office. But one of her sons involved in the dispute said in a series of Twitter postings Friday that Katherine Jackson was fine and resting in Arizona.

I want to reassure everyone that Mother is fine but is resting up in AZ on the orders of a doctor, not us,” Jermaine Jackson tweeted.

“This is our mother and her health is paramount. We are not inventing or plotting anything. We are following doctor’s advice. Period,” he added.

But rumors are that Jermaine and Janet have teamed up to prove that Michael’s will is invalid. They reportedly assert that the fact that they don’t get any money – has nothing to do with their fight.

“We just want Michael’s wishes to be granted in full. He would want his siblings to have a good portion of his estate. We were always a close-knit family. It’s what he wanted.”

“No way, they don’t get anything,” said an attorney for Michael’s kids. ”The kids get 40% of Michael’s money, 20% goes to charity and 40% goes to Katherine – until she passes, then that money goes to the kids.”

Oops, that leaves out Michael’s siblings.

When Paris Jackson called her aunts Rebbie and Janet over the past several days to find her grandmother, she was told each time she could not speak to her.

Katherine Jackson ”has never gone 24 hours without talking to her kids,” she said. “I’m concerned that she would never do this. We have no idea what’s going on with her. No one has talked to her.”

Janet met Paris at their home in Encino and Janet reportedly called Paris a “spoiled little b****” during an “ambush”.

Police were called as Janet, along with brothers Randy and Jermaine stormed the children’s house as the feud between the warring clan erupted into open warfare.

Paris responded to Janet by saying: ”This is our house. Not the Jackson family house. Get the f*** out!”

And then… Janet went missing. She hasn’t been seen for 24 hours and Jermaine is concerned.

Sources close to Jermaine say that he fears “Paris and her henchmen” have done “something awful” to Janet.

The family is worried sick about Janet, but Michael’s children say they have no idea what happened to her.

Diana Ross has agreed to mediate in the Jackson Family Feud but Paris had this to say about that, “who the hell is Diana Ross?”

Meanwhile, Michael prays for peace in his family.

If you have information on the whereabouts of Janet Jackson please contact WWN immediately…

http://weeklyworldnews.co...n-missing/

For those who dont know, Weekly World News writes fictional, satire news. This story is a fake!

[Edited 7/30/12 10:32am]

[Edited 7/30/12 10:33am]

Awwww! You shouldn't have put up the disclaimer so soon. I was looking forward to all the cries of...

"See, I told you Paris Jackson Stans so!"

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Even the Onion couldn't top this comedic fiasco!

The "Who The Hell Is Diana Ross?" is instant classic.

None of this would have happened like this if:

1) Randy's little letter had been written in a professional manner and was overseen by a legal team.

1a) Janet had the sense to realise the above before putting her signature to it. She has the money and legal team to do it.

2) If any of MJ's siblings wanted to contest the will, they should have done it in court and not by essentially throwing their toys out of the pram.

3) Katherine had just picked up the damn phone after 1-2 days of being away.

lazycrockett said:

The "Who The Hell Is Diana Ross?" is instant classic.

That should be a tag line, along with "Paris and her henchmen."

^Paris & Her Henchmen. Sounds like a punk rock band

[Edited 7/30/12 11:20am]

I will say when Janet fucks up, she really fucks up.

lowkey said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Does anyone know where Randy actually lives now? IIRC he and his kids and Alejandra were all staying at the Hayvenhurst home. And then when KJ and P, P, & B moved to the Calabasas home when Hayvenhurst was getting renovated, Alejandra and her kids moved into a condo that the Estate paid for right? So where is Randy living--back at Hayvenhurst?

none of the brothers were living there, alejandra was there with the 4 kids she had with randy and jermaine, plus the extra kid donte that nobody really knows who he belongs to

I wonder where Randy was living, I thought he was living with his mother until they moved

I hope that's a fake joke about janet missing, I know she always keeps a low profile though

SoulAlive said:

isn't it absurd that we're now talking about restraining orders against family members? that's how crazy this situation has become.Jermaine,Randy,Janet and Rebbie did so much damage to their own family.They should be ashamed and embarrased.

Who would have thought, right? The thing is that people, especially children, should not have to worry about being ambushed where they live.

There really is no going back on this. Is it an example of "no good deed goes unpunished?" If Katherine had just put her foot down on all this bullshit to begin with ages ago, instead of being kind and gentle about it, Raz B Jackson, J-Majesty and Janet might not be in this shit. (I can't even mention the other non-LaToya sister by name my dissapointment in her is so complete.) Funny how, for some people, the Universe often punishes the people around them.

Ellie said:

None of this would have happened like this if:

1) Randy's little letter had been written in a professional manner and was overseen by a legal team.

1a) Janet had the sense to realise the above before putting her signature to it. She has the money and legal team to do it.

2) If any of MJ's siblings wanted to contest the will, they should have done it in court and not by essentially throwing their toys out of the pram.

3) Katherine had just picked up the damn phone after 1-2 days of being away.

basically. also, in addition to getting legal advice (who would have likely told them that they had little chance of removing the execs without definitive proof and examples of misconduct and randy's rantings or their "feelings" abou the execs don't count as proof), you would think they would have rallied katherine to their side BEFORE the letter was released.

and yeah, i still don't understand the not calling the kids part. fine, take katherine to the spa and convince her to sign on to the plan to challenge the execs. the kids didn't need to be involved in that plot. but at least have kat pick up the phone and check in with them to say "hi, how ya doin', i'm just chillin' at the spa, i'll be back home on tuesday". how hard would that have been? it was their petty and nasty dismissal of the children, particularly paris, that caused their own downfall.

at the end of the day, we're giving these guys too much credit for having any sense, whatsoever. they know they've missed the deadline to contest the will, they know they have no evidence against the execs, but somehow, they think a strongly worded letter, replete with lies about "mini-strokes" and complaints that the estate won't make the mean old aeg stop trying to depose them, will somehow convince the two johns to bow down and leave their posts? okay, every says randy is cra-cra, but is janet also cra-cra? rebbie, the level-headed older sis, also cra-cra? i guess so!

kibbles said:

babynoz said:

I tend to agree, but then more drama will be forthcoming regardless.

Question...do you think it would have been better for the estate to petition the court for a temporary restraining order? I'm not sure about Cali but in our jurisdiction a court order would be the way to deal with that issue and it can be done by the guardian ad litem on behalf of a minor.

A court ordered cooling off period where all parties are ordered to stay away from each other would carry more weight and each side would have to present their case at a hearing.

I wonder too if Janet ever considered having mom come live with her instead of in a separate house but maybe Mama Kate don't wanna live with any of them?

maybe the estate didn't want to go that far, as a restraining order is usually issued where there is the potential for extreme violence and fear i.e., abusive boyfriends. i wouldn't put the jacksons in that category...yet. given randy's past behavior, though, i wouldn't rule out his potential for violence. so i think they took the precautions they could, and hopefully this will bring about the 'cooling off' period w/o further action.

I think you're right about the estate not wanting to go there but by the same token a minor skirmish with Trent, Randy, Jermaine and the security is alleged to have occurred already. I hope that things would never escalate beyond that point but like you said, i wouldn't rule it out.

I guess they still have the option of getting an order if another incident happens.

Katherine Jackson 'Furious' With

Son Randy For Trying To Overthrow

Executors Of Michael's Estate

Katherine Jackson is furious with her son,Randy, for trying to overthrow the executors of Michael Jackson 's estate, without her knowledge or consent while she was holed up at the Miraval resort in Tucson, Arizona,RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.

"Katherine was completely unaware that Randy had orchestrated his siblings signing a letter sent to the executors of Michael Jackson'sestate demanding their immediate resignation. Now that Katherine has been home for a few days, she recognizes that Randy was the one that planned this, and she is absolutely furious for him doing so. Katherine has never had a stroke or a mini-stroke as the ridiculous letter says. Katherine will never speak out publicly against her children, it's just not who she is. Behind the scenes, however, Katherine is extremely upset and disappointed in Randy's actions that have brought so much unwanted chaos into all of their lives," a source close to the situation tells us.

Last week, Katherine lost guardianship of Michael's three kids after they were unable to reach her for over nine days. Judge Mitchell Beckloff gave temporary custody of the kids to Katherine's grandson, TJ Jackson, son of Tito. Katherine and Tito have agreed to share custody of the kids and will go to court in the very near future to formally ask the judge to sign off on it.

Meanwhile, Katherine has issued a stern warning to her children to "stop talking to the press about their family business. Katherine specifically told Randy that if he wants to pursue this ridiculous claim that Michael's will is fake, to remain quiet about it. If Randy does find evidence, which Katherine knows is very unlikely to happen, to take it to court and not play it out the in press.

That is what the courts are for Katherine reminded Randy. Everyone loses when Randy takes his claims public, and it just causes undue stress on Katherine and Michael's children," the insider told us.

http://www.radaronline.co...son-estate

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mancabdriver said:

this Free2BMe said:

Agree. Janet is shady as hell and no excuses by her delusional stanatics will nullify that. She is the RING LEADER in this deception because she feels that her stans, media and puiblic will forgive her because she is Janet Jackson. It looks as if she is correct about her stans, they will forgive her even if she murdered someone. They are that pathetic. I don't know how much clearer her involvement has to be before these delusional stans see how far Janet's ass is involved. Even Paris, a 14 year-old girl has admitted that Janet did not slap her and that she did not cuss Janet out.

However, this cowardly fake heifer sits back and ALLOWS her stans and other people like Gladys Knight to bash this girl for no reason. Janet knows why she was trying to take Paris' cell phone, it was because Paris exposed their scheme. To do a CHILD like that is inexcusable. Janet's cowardice is almost as upsetting as the scam that she and her siblings tried to pull. I can bet that she wouldn't have walked up to Prince and tried to take his cell phone. Her actions toward Paris shows more envy than that of a concerned "aunt". These kids iknow that Janet is full of shit. They know what she has tried to do to her own brother and their father since his death. This entire scam that she is involved in is based on Jealousy,greed and the fact that she wants to be that's in charge of things. Can one imagine the outrage that these ignorant Janet stans would have had IF Michael had done the same thing to her, his mother, or any of his nieces and nephews. Of course, since it is Fake Ass Janet jackson, let's just forget that she LIED, used deception, tried to manipulate the public and allowed KIDS to take the heat for what SHE did. What a person to defend, stanatics! I wonder what you people are going to do when her next scam blows up in her face?

Can someone please buy this person a life?

"one of the basic causes for all the trouble in the world today is that (some) people talk/key in too much and think too little. they act impulsively without thinking." ~ margaret chase smith

allsmutaside said:

There really is no going back on this. Is it an example of "no good deed goes unpunished?" If Katherine had just put her foot down on all this bullshit to begin with ages ago, instead of being kind and gentle about it, Raz B Jackson, J-Majesty and Janet might not be in this shit. (I can't even mention the other non-LaToya sister by name my dissapointment in her is so complete.) Funny how, for some people, the Universe often punishes the people around them.

I would go back even further and say I wish she had put her foot down beginning with heavy handed Papa Joe but back in the day that wasn't a woman's "place"...especially a very pious woman.

Pinky and the Brain and Ren and Stimpy are replaying patterns of dysfunction ingrained in them long ago that they never grew out of under a microscope of public scrutiny. I'm just thinking out loud but I'm beginning to wonder if they ever learned anything about personal responsibility and respecting boundaries?

Why Janet Jackson became embroiled in family feud involving Michael's kids

By STACY BROWN

Even the most dysfunctional families have their sane one, and in the famously chaotic Jackson clan, that member has always been Janet.

Until now.

This past week, the family feuded publicly over the late Michael’s estate, with his children taking to Twitter to accuse their Aunt Janet and others of kidnapping their grandmother and legal guardian, Katherine, in order to wrest away control of the King of Pop’s fortune.

At the public memorial service for Michael on July 7, 2009, it was Janet who soothed an emotional Paris, then just 11 years old, as she tearfully remembered her father as “the best daddy,” and it was into Janet’s arms she flew after emotionally collapsing.

Nearly three years to the day, things are quite different. Last Monday, 14-year-old Paris Jackson not only defied her 46-year-old Aunt Janet but also defied the way the Jackson family has traditionally operated: Instead of keeping this latest family feud private, Paris, frantic over her relatives’ refusal to let her speak to her grandma, took to Twitter and declared matriarch Katherine missing.

The national media were quick to go on red alert, and Janet was caught on camera confronting her niece in the driveway of Katherine’s estate.

“You’re a spoiled little bitch!” Janet yelled.

“This is our house,” Paris shot back. “Not the Jackson family house. Get the f--k out!”

On Thursday, Paris’ brother Prince Michael, 15, posted a text message he’d sent to several relatives, including his famous aunt, listed in his iPhone simply as “Janet Jackson.”

“This is enough,” it read, “so I am texting you for the simple fact that WE DEMAND TO SPEAK TO MY GRANDMA NOW!!!”

Janet’s reply was terse: “Don’t let them pls.”

What’s happened to Janet Jackson? How is it that the seemingly calmest, most soft-spoken sibling could be so vicious to her niece and nephews?

Why would a woman who launched her solo career by publicly emancipating herself from her overbearing family — her 1986 breakthrough album was called “Control” — allow herself to become enmeshed in such an ugly family feud? And why would Janet — the only one of 10 Jackson siblings to have a career nearly as successful as Michael’s — allow her image to be tarnished this way?

One Jackson family member tells The Post the answer is simple: It’s all about money. She’s got some; Michael’s estate has more — Billboard recently estimated its net worth at $1 billion — and her siblings have none. She lives in fear of supporting them.

“Janet’s last three tours have failed to sell tickets, and she’s cut each of them short,” the sibling says. “She hasn’t had a hit record in more than a decade, and she no longer has a recording contract.”

This family member says that Janet’s net worth is estimated at $100 million but that “she only has money going out and nothing new coming in.”

Janet hasn’t had a hit song since 2001’s “Someone to Call My Lover,” and the last time she had any cultural relevance was in February 2004, after Justin Timberlake exposed her breast during their Super Bowl performance.

She’s starred in a couple of Tyler Perry films, but lately her brand has been defined by her yo-yo dieting (she’s a spokeswoman for Nutrisystem) and struggles with self-actualization. Her 2011 self-help book, “True You: A Journey to Finding and Loving Yourself,” was a best seller, ironic given that she hasn’t been able to detach fully from her destructive family — especially older brother Randy, whom she is said to worship.

“Janet has nothing to do,” her sibling says. “And she is devoted to any cause Randy takes up.”

It was Randy, says this sibling, who hatched the plan to remove Katherine from the Jackson home, challenge Michael’s will, remove the children from Katherine’s legal custody and ultimately gain control of the estate.

“Randy thought that if they were to publicly show that [Katherine] was no longer capable of caring for the children and no longer able to handle the day-to-day responsibilities of the house, then Randy could take her position.”

Randy, now 50, enlisted his sister Rebbie, 62, brothers Jermaine, 58, and Tito, 60, and Janet, the sibling says. The coup’s ultimate aim: to overthrow Michael’s estate executors, John Branca and John McClain.

With that, Randy would control the $70,000 monthly allowance Katherine gets from the estate and the $100,000 the children get.

About two weeks ago, Randy pushed the button on the plan.

Four of the Jackson siblings — Jermaine, Tito, Jackie and Marlon — were doing a concert in New Mexico. Randy coordinated with Katherine’s assistant, Janice Smith, to have the 82-year-old matriarch ready for “a long vacation.”

A doctor hired by the siblings was brought in to visit with Katherine and promptly told her she needed rest, the family member says. The siblings kept her isolated from outside contact, busying her with games of Uno while Jermaine issued statements that his mother had suffered a series of strokes and needed rest.

One can only wonder what the Janet of 1986 — scared, free, struggling to carve her own persona — would make of today’s Janet, back in league with her tormenters against McClain.

And yet, not all is well with her siblings. Janet has fought viciously with La Toya, Jermaine and Jackie.

In 2001, Janet bought a Las Vegas home for her mother with the stipulation that family patriarch Joe Jackson never be allowed to live there, according to Rebbie Jackson.

“She never forgave Joseph for what he did to us when we were children. She doesn’t deal with him at all,” Rebbie said.

While Janet has helped pay bills for her mother in the past and paid her brother Marlon’s mortgage for a full year and moved him to Atlanta, she has mostly been careful about helping her siblings with their cash problems.

“They need to get jobs if they think I’m going to do what Michael did for them. They are grown-ass men. I’m not giving them nothing,” Janet said, according to this family member.

While Janet’s relationship with Michael appeared close, the siblings were one another’s biggest rivals. Michael even once asked Janet to stop using her surname when she performed.

It wasn’t until after repeated pleas from Katherine Jackson that Janet went to a Santa Maria, Calif., courthouse to show support for Michael during his child-molestation trial in 2005.

While Janet’s fortune remains stable, she fears for her security should she find herself supporting eight siblings and their families.

While Michael was in hiding in Bahrain following his acquittal, Janet started paying Katherine’s bills and giving her siblings money. But she has begun to cut them off.

Randy and Jermaine, who have children by the same woman, had previously requested that the estate pay their back child support, something Branca ultimately approved. Randy once owed as much as $150,000 to his ex.

Since Michael’s death in 2009, Branca and McClain have worked miracles to alleviate the $500 million debt left by the legend. The estate owns a share in Sony/ATV music publishing, which contains all of Jackson’s hits and the prized Beatles catalog. It is said to be worth upward of $2 billion. The bulk of it will go to Jackson’s three children: Paris, Prince Michael and 10-year-old Blanket.

If Janet doesn’t support her brothers, the estate could.

“It is a fact that the primary reason Janet got involved in Randy’s plan,” says a sibling, “is because she wants to see her brothers control Michael’s money so they won’t come to her anymore.”

After Prince tweeted that his late father had warned him about “certain people,” the family member said one of those people was Janet. Often calling her “evil, selfish and cheap,” Michael warned his children that Janet wouldn’t be the best of aunts.

Last week, California Judge Mitchell Beckloff appointed Tito’s son, TJ Jackson, guardian of Prince, Paris and Blanket.

TJ’s mother, Dee Dee Jackson, was murdered in 1994 by a man she’d begun dating after divorcing Tito. Michael took TJ and TJ’s two brothers under his wing. He was part of the Michael Jackson-inspired music group 3T.

As such, TJ is inclined to take the side of Jackson’s kids in disputes and said either Rebbie or Janet had a fake doctor persuade Katherine to leave California.

“I am taking actions that I have deemed appropriate to protect Michael’s children,” TJ said in court.

Janet, it’s clear, will no longer be a part of their lives, and this thwarted plan has eroded her power.

The three children have been reunited with their grandmother and have vowed to stay as far as possible from their aunts and uncles. Janet’s efforts to give her brothers a financial parachute has backfired.

“[The children] will probably never let this go,” says one sibling. “They certainly won’t forget it. And the ones the family members tried to paint as bad guys are the very ones those children will always see as protectors.”

Stacy Brown is a reporter and longtime friend of the Jackson family. (LOL)

http://www.nypost.com/p/n...z228XyTsdM

[Edited 7/30/12 12:48pm]

kibbles said:

Ellie said:

None of this would have happened like this if:

1) Randy's little letter had been written in a professional manner and was overseen by a legal team.

1a) Janet had the sense to realise the above before putting her signature to it. She has the money and legal team to do it.

2) If any of MJ's siblings wanted to contest the will, they should have done it in court and not by essentially throwing their toys out of the pram.

3) Katherine had just picked up the damn phone after 1-2 days of being away.

basically. also, in addition to getting legal advice (who would have likely told them that they had little chance of removing the execs without definitive proof and examples of misconduct and randy's rantings or their "feelings" abou the execs don't count as proof), you would think they would have rallied katherine to their side BEFORE the letter was released.

and yeah, i still don't understand the not calling the kids part. fine, take katherine to the spa and convince her to sign on to the plan to challenge the execs. the kids didn't need to be involved in that plot. but at least have kat pick up the phone and check in with them to say "hi, how ya doin', i'm just chillin' at the spa, i'll be back home on tuesday". how hard would that have been? it was their petty and nasty dismissal of the children, particularly paris, that caused their own downfall.

at the end of the day, we're giving these guys too much credit for having any sense, whatsoever. they know they've missed the deadline to contest the will, they know they have no evidence against the execs, but somehow, they think a strongly worded letter, replete with lies about "mini-strokes" and complaints that the estate won't make the mean old aeg stop trying to depose them, will somehow convince the two johns to bow down and leave their posts? okay, every says randy is cra-cra, but is janet also cra-cra? rebbie, the level-headed older sis, also cra-cra? i guess so!

I was thinking about that too and the only thing I can surmise is that if the objective was avoiding the subpoena, they feared the kids would reveal Kate's whereabouts to someone and word would get back to AEG. They knew if the kids asked Kate where she was she would tell them the truth.

"Grandma, some men came looking for you today!"

Of course, once the letter to the estate was leaked they certainly didn't want the kids asking about that either.

mookie said:

Why Janet Jackson became embroiled in family feud involving Michael's kids

By STACY BROWN

Even the most dysfunctional families have their sane one, and in the famously chaotic Jackson clan, that member has always been Janet.

Until now.

This past week, the family feuded publicly over the late Michael’s estate, with his children taking to Twitter to accuse their Aunt Janet and others of kidnapping their grandmother and legal guardian, Katherine, in order to wrest away control of the King of Pop’s fortune.

At the public memorial service for Michael on July 7, 2009, it was Janet who soothed an emotional Paris, then just 11 years old, as she tearfully remembered her father as “the best daddy,” and it was into Janet’s arms she flew after emotionally collapsing.

Nearly three years to the day, things are quite different. Last Monday, 14-year-old Paris Jackson not only defied her 46-year-old Aunt Janet but also defied the way the Jackson family has traditionally operated: Instead of keeping this latest family feud private, Paris, frantic over her relatives’ refusal to let her speak to her grandma, took to Twitter and declared matriarch Katherine missing.

The national media were quick to go on red alert, and Janet was caught on camera confronting her niece in the driveway of Katherine’s estate.

“You’re a spoiled little bitch!” Janet yelled.

“This is our house,” Paris shot back. “Not the Jackson family house. Get the f--k out!”

On Thursday, Paris’ brother Prince Michael, 15, posted a text message he’d sent to several relatives, including his famous aunt, listed in his iPhone simply as “Janet Jackson.”

“This is enough,” it read, “so I am texting you for the simple fact that WE DEMAND TO SPEAK TO MY GRANDMA NOW!!!”

Janet’s reply was terse: “Don’t let them pls.”

What’s happened to Janet Jackson? How is it that the seemingly calmest, most soft-spoken sibling could be so vicious to her niece and nephews?

Why would a woman who launched her solo career by publicly emancipating herself from her overbearing family — her 1986 breakthrough album was called “Control” — allow herself to become enmeshed in such an ugly family feud? And why would Janet — the only one of 10 Jackson siblings to have a career nearly as successful as Michael’s — allow her image to be tarnished this way?

One Jackson family member tells The Post the answer is simple: It’s all about money. She’s got some; Michael’s estate has more — Billboard recently estimated its net worth at $1 billion — and her siblings have none. She lives in fear of supporting them.

“Janet’s last three tours have failed to sell tickets, and she’s cut each of them short,” the sibling says. “She hasn’t had a hit record in more than a decade, and she no longer has a recording contract.”

This family member says that Janet’s net worth is estimated at $100 million but that “she only has money going out and nothing new coming in.”

Janet hasn’t had a hit song since 2001’s “Someone to Call My Lover,” and the last time she had any cultural relevance was in February 2004, after Justin Timberlake exposed her breast during their Super Bowl performance.

She’s starred in a couple of Tyler Perry films, but lately her brand has been defined by her yo-yo dieting (she’s a spokeswoman for Nutrisystem) and struggles with self-actualization. Her 2011 self-help book, “True You: A Journey to Finding and Loving Yourself,” was a best seller, ironic given that she hasn’t been able to detach fully from her destructive family — especially older brother Randy, whom she is said to worship.

“Janet has nothing to do,” her sibling says. “And she is devoted to any cause Randy takes up.”

It was Randy, says this sibling, who hatched the plan to remove Katherine from the Jackson home, challenge Michael’s will, remove the children from Katherine’s legal custody and ultimately gain control of the estate.

“Randy thought that if they were to publicly show that [Katherine] was no longer capable of caring for the children and no longer able to handle the day-to-day responsibilities of the house, then Randy could take her position.”

Randy, now 50, enlisted his sister Rebbie, 62, brothers Jermaine, 58, and Tito, 60, and Janet, the sibling says. The coup’s ultimate aim: to overthrow Michael’s estate executors, John Branca and John McClain.

With that, Randy would control the $70,000 monthly allowance Katherine gets from the estate and the $100,000 the children get.

About two weeks ago, Randy pushed the button on the plan.

Four of the Jackson siblings — Jermaine, Tito, Jackie and Marlon — were doing a concert in New Mexico. Randy coordinated with Katherine’s assistant, Janice Smith, to have the 82-year-old matriarch ready for “a long vacation.”

A doctor hired by the siblings was brought in to visit with Katherine and promptly told her she needed rest, the family member says. The siblings kept her isolated from outside contact, busying her with games of Uno while Jermaine issued statements that his mother had suffered a series of strokes and needed rest.

One can only wonder what the Janet of 1986 — scared, free, struggling to carve her own persona — would make of today’s Janet, back in league with her tormenters against McClain.

And yet, not all is well with her siblings. Janet has fought viciously with La Toya, Jermaine and Jackie.

In 2001, Janet bought a Las Vegas home for her mother with the stipulation that family patriarch Joe Jackson never be allowed to live there, according to Rebbie Jackson.

“She never forgave Joseph for what he did to us when we were children. She doesn’t deal with him at all,” Rebbie said.

While Janet has helped pay bills for her mother in the past and paid her brother Marlon’s mortgage for a full year and moved him to Atlanta, she has mostly been careful about helping her siblings with their cash problems.

“They need to get jobs if they think I’m going to do what Michael did for them. They are grown-ass men. I’m not giving them nothing,” Janet said, according to this family member.

While Janet’s relationship with Michael appeared close, the siblings were one another’s biggest rivals. Michael even once asked Janet to stop using her surname when she performed.

It wasn’t until after repeated pleas from Katherine Jackson that Janet went to a Santa Maria, Calif., courthouse to show support for Michael during his child-molestation trial in 2005.

While Janet’s fortune remains stable, she fears for her security should she find herself supporting eight siblings and their families.

While Michael was in hiding in Bahrain following his acquittal, Janet started paying Katherine’s bills and giving her siblings money. But she has begun to cut them off.

Randy and Jermaine, who have children by the same woman, had previously requested that the estate pay their back child support, something Branca ultimately approved. Randy once owed as much as $150,000 to his ex.

Since Michael’s death in 2009, Branca and McClain have worked miracles to alleviate the $500 million debt left by the legend. The estate owns a share in Sony/ATV music publishing, which contains all of Jackson’s hits and the prized Beatles catalog. It is said to be worth upward of $2 billion. The bulk of it will go to Jackson’s three children: Paris, Prince Michael and 10-year-old Blanket.

If Janet doesn’t support her brothers, the estate could.

“It is a fact that the primary reason Janet got involved in Randy’s plan,” says a sibling, “is because she wants to see her brothers control Michael’s money so they won’t come to her anymore.”

After Prince tweeted that his late father had warned him about “certain people,” the family member said one of those people was Janet. Often calling her “evil, selfish and cheap,” Michael warned his children that Janet wouldn’t be the best of aunts.

Last week, California Judge Mitchell Beckloff appointed Tito’s son, TJ Jackson, guardian of Prince, Paris and Blanket.

TJ’s mother, Dee Dee Jackson, was murdered in 1994 by a man she’d begun dating after divorcing Tito. Michael took TJ and TJ’s two brothers under his wing. He was part of the Michael Jackson-inspired music group 3T.

As such, TJ is inclined to take the side of Jackson’s kids in disputes and said either Rebbie or Janet had a fake doctor persuade Katherine to leave California.

“I am taking actions that I have deemed appropriate to protect Michael’s children,” TJ said in court.

Janet, it’s clear, will no longer be a part of their lives, and this thwarted plan has eroded her power.

The three children have been reunited with their grandmother and have vowed to stay as far as possible from their aunts and uncles. Janet’s efforts to give her brothers a financial parachute has backfired.

“[The children] will probably never let this go,” says one sibling. “They certainly won’t forget it. And the ones the family members tried to paint as bad guys are the very ones those children will always see as protectors.”

Stacy Brown is a reporter and longtime friend of the Jackson family. (LOL)

http://www.nypost.com/p/n...z228XyTsdM

Wow! This article contains alot of info that I never knew