babynoz said:

allsmutaside said:

There really is no going back on this. Is it an example of "no good deed goes unpunished?" If Katherine had just put her foot down on all this bullshit to begin with ages ago, instead of being kind and gentle about it, Raz B Jackson, J-Majesty and Janet might not be in this shit. (I can't even mention the other non-LaToya sister by name my dissapointment in her is so complete.) Funny how, for some people, the Universe often punishes the people around them.

I would go back even further and say I wish she had put her foot down beginning with heavy handed Papa Joe but back in the day that wasn't a woman's "place"...especially a very pious woman.

Pinky and the Brain and Ren and Stimpy are replaying patterns of dysfunction ingrained in them long ago that they never grew out of under a microscope of public scrutiny. I'm just thinking out loud but I'm beginning to wonder if they ever learned anything about personal responsibility and respecting boundaries?

You know I wonder now and again if she didn't because it wasn't necessary. Maybe Joe really wasn't all that bad after all. Sometimes it did seem as if Michael exagerated his emotional response to the events somewhat. The whole world puts a little bit of spin on a top given time.

Azz said:

aardvark15 said:

I'm in disbelief that they think a 14 year old who's looked for attention before is a valider source than the main adult(s) in situation

I'm in disbelief that an 82 year old woman can't visit her husband

he can visit her, he just can't bring his child abusing ass into the kids house. has he ever been in that house? i wouldn't be surprised if the joe part of the rule was old and they just brought it to light. I wouldn't let him around my kids either. Mike really fucked him, hehe.

mookie said:

Why Janet Jackson became embroiled in family feud involving Michael's kids

By STACY BROWN

Even the most dysfunctional families have their sane one, and in the famously chaotic Jackson clan, that member has always been Janet.

Until now.

This past week, the family feuded publicly over the late Michael’s estate, with his children taking to Twitter to accuse their Aunt Janet and others of kidnapping their grandmother and legal guardian, Katherine, in order to wrest away control of the King of Pop’s fortune.

At the public memorial service for Michael on July 7, 2009, it was Janet who soothed an emotional Paris, then just 11 years old, as she tearfully remembered her father as “the best daddy,” and it was into Janet’s arms she flew after emotionally collapsing.

Nearly three years to the day, things are quite different. Last Monday, 14-year-old Paris Jackson not only defied her 46-year-old Aunt Janet but also defied the way the Jackson family has traditionally operated: Instead of keeping this latest family feud private, Paris, frantic over her relatives’ refusal to let her speak to her grandma, took to Twitter and declared matriarch Katherine missing.

The national media were quick to go on red alert, and Janet was caught on camera confronting her niece in the driveway of Katherine’s estate.

“You’re a spoiled little bitch!” Janet yelled.

“This is our house,” Paris shot back. “Not the Jackson family house. Get the f--k out!”

On Thursday, Paris’ brother Prince Michael, 15, posted a text message he’d sent to several relatives, including his famous aunt, listed in his iPhone simply as “Janet Jackson.”

“This is enough,” it read, “so I am texting you for the simple fact that WE DEMAND TO SPEAK TO MY GRANDMA NOW!!!”

Janet’s reply was terse: “Don’t let them pls.”

What’s happened to Janet Jackson? How is it that the seemingly calmest, most soft-spoken sibling could be so vicious to her niece and nephews?

Why would a woman who launched her solo career by publicly emancipating herself from her overbearing family — her 1986 breakthrough album was called “Control” — allow herself to become enmeshed in such an ugly family feud? And why would Janet — the only one of 10 Jackson siblings to have a career nearly as successful as Michael’s — allow her image to be tarnished this way?

One Jackson family member tells The Post the answer is simple: It’s all about money. She’s got some; Michael’s estate has more — Billboard recently estimated its net worth at $1 billion — and her siblings have none. She lives in fear of supporting them.

“Janet’s last three tours have failed to sell tickets, and she’s cut each of them short,” the sibling says. “She hasn’t had a hit record in more than a decade, and she no longer has a recording contract.”

This family member says that Janet’s net worth is estimated at $100 million but that “she only has money going out and nothing new coming in.”

Janet hasn’t had a hit song since 2001’s “Someone to Call My Lover,” and the last time she had any cultural relevance was in February 2004, after Justin Timberlake exposed her breast during their Super Bowl performance.

She’s starred in a couple of Tyler Perry films, but lately her brand has been defined by her yo-yo dieting (she’s a spokeswoman for Nutrisystem) and struggles with self-actualization. Her 2011 self-help book, “True You: A Journey to Finding and Loving Yourself,” was a best seller, ironic given that she hasn’t been able to detach fully from her destructive family — especially older brother Randy, whom she is said to worship.

“Janet has nothing to do,” her sibling says. “And she is devoted to any cause Randy takes up.”

It was Randy, says this sibling, who hatched the plan to remove Katherine from the Jackson home, challenge Michael’s will, remove the children from Katherine’s legal custody and ultimately gain control of the estate.

“Randy thought that if they were to publicly show that [Katherine] was no longer capable of caring for the children and no longer able to handle the day-to-day responsibilities of the house, then Randy could take her position.”

Randy, now 50, enlisted his sister Rebbie, 62, brothers Jermaine, 58, and Tito, 60, and Janet, the sibling says. The coup’s ultimate aim: to overthrow Michael’s estate executors, John Branca and John McClain.

With that, Randy would control the $70,000 monthly allowance Katherine gets from the estate and the $100,000 the children get.

About two weeks ago, Randy pushed the button on the plan.

Four of the Jackson siblings — Jermaine, Tito, Jackie and Marlon — were doing a concert in New Mexico. Randy coordinated with Katherine’s assistant, Janice Smith, to have the 82-year-old matriarch ready for “a long vacation.”

A doctor hired by the siblings was brought in to visit with Katherine and promptly told her she needed rest, the family member says. The siblings kept her isolated from outside contact, busying her with games of Uno while Jermaine issued statements that his mother had suffered a series of strokes and needed rest.

One can only wonder what the Janet of 1986 — scared, free, struggling to carve her own persona — would make of today’s Janet, back in league with her tormenters against McClain.

And yet, not all is well with her siblings. Janet has fought viciously with La Toya, Jermaine and Jackie.

In 2001, Janet bought a Las Vegas home for her mother with the stipulation that family patriarch Joe Jackson never be allowed to live there, according to Rebbie Jackson.

“She never forgave Joseph for what he did to us when we were children. She doesn’t deal with him at all,” Rebbie said.

While Janet has helped pay bills for her mother in the past and paid her brother Marlon’s mortgage for a full year and moved him to Atlanta, she has mostly been careful about helping her siblings with their cash problems.

“They need to get jobs if they think I’m going to do what Michael did for them. They are grown-ass men. I’m not giving them nothing,” Janet said, according to this family member.

While Janet’s relationship with Michael appeared close, the siblings were one another’s biggest rivals. Michael even once asked Janet to stop using her surname when she performed.

It wasn’t until after repeated pleas from Katherine Jackson that Janet went to a Santa Maria, Calif., courthouse to show support for Michael during his child-molestation trial in 2005.

While Janet’s fortune remains stable, she fears for her security should she find herself supporting eight siblings and their families.

While Michael was in hiding in Bahrain following his acquittal, Janet started paying Katherine’s bills and giving her siblings money. But she has begun to cut them off.

Randy and Jermaine, who have children by the same woman, had previously requested that the estate pay their back child support, something Branca ultimately approved. Randy once owed as much as $150,000 to his ex.

Since Michael’s death in 2009, Branca and McClain have worked miracles to alleviate the $500 million debt left by the legend. The estate owns a share in Sony/ATV music publishing, which contains all of Jackson’s hits and the prized Beatles catalog. It is said to be worth upward of $2 billion. The bulk of it will go to Jackson’s three children: Paris, Prince Michael and 10-year-old Blanket.

If Janet doesn’t support her brothers, the estate could.

“It is a fact that the primary reason Janet got involved in Randy’s plan,” says a sibling, “is because she wants to see her brothers control Michael’s money so they won’t come to her anymore.”

After Prince tweeted that his late father had warned him about “certain people,” the family member said one of those people was Janet. Often calling her “evil, selfish and cheap,” Michael warned his children that Janet wouldn’t be the best of aunts.

Last week, California Judge Mitchell Beckloff appointed Tito’s son, TJ Jackson, guardian of Prince, Paris and Blanket.

TJ’s mother, Dee Dee Jackson, was murdered in 1994 by a man she’d begun dating after divorcing Tito. Michael took TJ and TJ’s two brothers under his wing. He was part of the Michael Jackson-inspired music group 3T.

As such, TJ is inclined to take the side of Jackson’s kids in disputes and said either Rebbie or Janet had a fake doctor persuade Katherine to leave California.

“I am taking actions that I have deemed appropriate to protect Michael’s children,” TJ said in court.

Janet, it’s clear, will no longer be a part of their lives, and this thwarted plan has eroded her power.

The three children have been reunited with their grandmother and have vowed to stay as far as possible from their aunts and uncles. Janet’s efforts to give her brothers a financial parachute has backfired.

“[The children] will probably never let this go,” says one sibling. “They certainly won’t forget it. And the ones the family members tried to paint as bad guys are the very ones those children will always see as protectors.”

Stacy Brown is a reporter and longtime friend of the Jackson family. (LOL)

http://www.nypost.com/p/n...z228XyTsdM

[Edited 7/30/12 12:48pm]

Wow. Well ok then! Imma make a guess as to who "this family member/sibling/family source" is that Stacy Brown got his info from---was none other than.....

kibbles said:

Ellie said:

None of this would have happened like this if:

1) Randy's little letter had been written in a professional manner and was overseen by a legal team.

1a) Janet had the sense to realise the above before putting her signature to it. She has the money and legal team to do it.

2) If any of MJ's siblings wanted to contest the will, they should have done it in court and not by essentially throwing their toys out of the pram.

3) Katherine had just picked up the damn phone after 1-2 days of being away.

basically. also, in addition to getting legal advice (who would have likely told them that they had little chance of removing the execs without definitive proof and examples of misconduct and randy's rantings or their "feelings" abou the execs don't count as proof), you would think they would have rallied katherine to their side BEFORE the letter was released.

and yeah, i still don't understand the not calling the kids part. fine, take katherine to the spa and convince her to sign on to the plan to challenge the execs. the kids didn't need to be involved in that plot. but at least have kat pick up the phone and check in with them to say "hi, how ya doin', i'm just chillin' at the spa, i'll be back home on tuesday". how hard would that have been? it was their petty and nasty dismissal of the children, particularly paris, that caused their own downfall.

at the end of the day, we're giving these guys too much credit for having any sense, whatsoever. they know they've missed the deadline to contest the will, they know they have no evidence against the execs, but somehow, they think a strongly worded letter, replete with lies about "mini-strokes" and complaints that the estate won't make the mean old aeg stop trying to depose them, will somehow convince the two johns to bow down and leave their posts? okay, every says randy is cra-cra, but is janet also cra-cra? rebbie, the level-headed older sis, also cra-cra? i guess so!

Great post!

allsmutaside said:

There really is no going back on this. Is it an example of "no good deed goes unpunished?" If Katherine had just put her foot down on all this bullshit to begin with ages ago, instead of being kind and gentle about it, Raz B Jackson, J-Majesty and Janet might not be in this shit. (I can't even mention the other non-LaToya sister by name my dissapointment in her is so complete.) Funny how, for some people, the Universe often punishes the people around them.

just out of curiosity, why do ya'll call him raz b?

allsmutaside said:

babynoz said:

I would go back even further and say I wish she had put her foot down beginning with heavy handed Papa Joe but back in the day that wasn't a woman's "place"...especially a very pious woman.

Pinky and the Brain and Ren and Stimpy are replaying patterns of dysfunction ingrained in them long ago that they never grew out of under a microscope of public scrutiny. I'm just thinking out loud but I'm beginning to wonder if they ever learned anything about personal responsibility and respecting boundaries?

You know I wonder now and again if she didn't because it wasn't necessary. Maybe Joe really wasn't all that bad after all. Sometimes it did seem as if Michael exagerated his emotional response to the events somewhat. The whole world puts a little bit of spin on a top given time.

I sincerly doubt that. i grew up in an abusive household and ususally what happens is that you actually downplay how bad it was because people don't believe you when you tell the truth. I bet it was even worse than what any of them (except maybe latoya) told us. in fact i take that back. maybe latoya was the only one who told the whole truth.

allsmutaside said:

babynoz said:

I would go back even further and say I wish she had put her foot down beginning with heavy handed Papa Joe but back in the day that wasn't a woman's "place"...especially a very pious woman.

Pinky and the Brain and Ren and Stimpy are replaying patterns of dysfunction ingrained in them long ago that they never grew out of under a microscope of public scrutiny. I'm just thinking out loud but I'm beginning to wonder if they ever learned anything about personal responsibility and respecting boundaries?

You know I wonder now and again if she didn't because it wasn't necessary. Maybe Joe really wasn't all that bad after all. Sometimes it did seem as if Michael exagerated his emotional response to the events somewhat. The whole world puts a little bit of spin on a top given time.

Maybe or maybe not but as adults they needed to find a way to overcome whatever negativity impacted them growing up. Facing and overcoming trauma is extremely hard but necessary for good emotional health. For high profile people getting help confidentially is probably nearly impossible too.

I can't remember whether it was an interview or a documentary where it was said that the contrast between the parents was so confusing for the kids that MJ and the rest basically developed two sets of behaviors. At home with Mom they were expected behave within very strict and narrow boundaries but on the road with Joe it was just the opposite and Joe even shared groupies with the older boys, all in full view of young Michael and Marlon.

Michael was by far the most sensitive and I don't know whether or not his accounts were exaggerated but I have heard all of them say that there was some level of abuse taking place.

isobelfq said:

allsmutaside said:

You know I wonder now and again if she didn't because it wasn't necessary. Maybe Joe really wasn't all that bad after all. Sometimes it did seem as if Michael exagerated his emotional response to the events somewhat. The whole world puts a little bit of spin on a top given time.

I sincerly doubt that. i grew up in an abusive household and ususally what happens is that you actually downplay how bad it was because people don't believe you when you tell the truth. I bet it was even worse than what any of them (except maybe latoya) told us. in fact i take that back. maybe latoya was the only one who told the whole truth.

Interesting...thanks for the input. That whole family secrecy dynamic and having to downplay the level of abuse is very sad to hear and I hope you were able to find healing.

That's one reason I'm glad these kids did speak up before the dysfunction could have more of an impact on them.

isobelfq said:

allsmutaside said:

There really is no going back on this. Is it an example of "no good deed goes unpunished?" If Katherine had just put her foot down on all this bullshit to begin with ages ago, instead of being kind and gentle about it, Raz B Jackson, J-Majesty and Janet might not be in this shit. (I can't even mention the other non-LaToya sister by name my dissapointment in her is so complete.) Funny how, for some people, the Universe often punishes the people around them.

just out of curiosity, why do ya'll call him raz b?

He has a shaved head and talks out randomly. And I'm just being a dick.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ne_Jackson

http://www.biography.com/...son-467150

babynoz said:

isobelfq said:

I sincerly doubt that. i grew up in an abusive household and ususally what happens is that you actually downplay how bad it was because people don't believe you when you tell the truth. I bet it was even worse than what any of them (except maybe latoya) told us. in fact i take that back. maybe latoya was the only one who told the whole truth.

Interesting...thanks for the input. That whole family secrecy dynamic and having to downplay the level of abuse is very sad to hear and I hope you were able to find healing.

That's one reason I'm glad these kids did speak up before the dysfunction could have more of an impact on them.

isobelfq - I largely agree with you, really intend no disrespect, and plan to step away from this topic like I should after this post. But to me there was often something that seemed disengenuous when I heard Michael speak about what he experienced as a child. And the whole soft/frail voice thing in public and the strong/adult voice that was private and sometime captured on tape really left me with questions. It seemed to me that Michael decided he was going to fight Joe somehow for how he actually was treated poorly and abused. One weapon Michael may have used was to exagerate. Another may have been to "reveal" in moments designed to particularly shame Joe and emasculate dude. But maybe I'm just talking out the side of my neck and these observations of mine are a reflection of straight up abuse.

NaughtyKitty said:

Wow. Well ok then! Imma make a guess as to who "this family member/sibling/family source" is that Stacy Brown got his info from---was none other than.....

Probably not actually. Stacy Brown is largely connected to Rebbie more than anyone else.

isobelfq said:

Azz said:

I'm in disbelief that an 82 year old woman can't visit her husband

he can visit her, he just can't bring his child abusing ass into the kids house. has he ever been in that house? i wouldn't be surprised if the joe part of the rule was old and they just brought it to light. I wouldn't let him around my kids either. Mike really fucked him, hehe.

There is no 'Mike' without Joe.

SoulAlive said:

mookie said:

Why Janet Jackson became embroiled in family feud involving Michael's kids

By STACY BROWN

Wow! This article contains alot of info that I never knew

MJ fans are believing Stacy Brown now?

Hypocrites if I ever did see...

NaughtyKitty said:

Equally as ridiculous as Katherine being kidnapped by her own children.

I hope you are laughing at yourselves.

^^

For those who dont know, Weekly World News writes fictional, satire news. This story is a fake!

Azz said:

isobelfq said:

he can visit her, he just can't bring his child abusing ass into the kids house. has he ever been in that house? i wouldn't be surprised if the joe part of the rule was old and they just brought it to light. I wouldn't let him around my kids either. Mike really fucked him, hehe.

There is no 'Mike' without Joe.

There is also no Janet, Jermaine, Randy, Rebbie, Marlon, Jackie or Tito without Joe AND Katherine.

Azz said:

SoulAlive said:

Wow! This article contains alot of info that I never knew

MJ fans are believing Stacy Brown now?

Hypocrites if I ever did see...

Most AWARE MJ fans know that Stacy Brown is lower than dirt. He will say and do anything for money. His lies change by the hour, day, occasion, situation,etc. whichever way the wind blows. If you look up the term "Uncle Tom", Stacy Brown's picture should be there. This "man", and I use the term loosely, is an embarrassment to his race.

allsmutaside said:

babynoz said:

Interesting...thanks for the input. That whole family secrecy dynamic and having to downplay the level of abuse is very sad to hear and I hope you were able to find healing.

That's one reason I'm glad these kids did speak up before the dysfunction could have more of an impact on them.

isobelfq - I largely agree with you, really intend no disrespect, and plan to step away from this topic like I should after this post. But to me there was often something that seemed disengenuous when I heard Michael speak about what he experienced as a child. And the whole soft/frail voice thing in public and the strong/adult voice that was private and sometime captured on tape really left me with questions. It seemed to me that Michael decided he was going to fight Joe somehow for how he actually was treated poorly and abused. One weapon Michael may have used was to exagerate. Another may have been to "reveal" in moments designed to particularly shame Joe and emasculate dude. But maybe I'm just talking out the side of my neck and these observations of mine are a reflection of straight up abuse.

there are other people who also witnessed joe's treatment of his kids, or know who know joe and have attested to his coldness and outright cruelty.

isn't it possible, then, that mj was telling the truth about his father? for example, why is joe excluded from calabasas? is tj trying to shame or emasculate joe, too? or is he trying to protect mj3 and his grandmother?

i read excerpts of margaret maldonado's book, and she interviewed the bros. about their experiences growing up, and i think it was tito and jackie who told her harrowing tales. i believe it was jackie who was so broken up that he could hardly speak. mj didn't talk about joe's abuse publically, i don't think, until the oprah interview. but john landis recently said that joe was barred from the thriller set b/c he was so disruptive and mj was basically afraid of him. the late frank dileo, mj's mgr. who would be in a position to know, said the same thing. mj was terrified of his father, practically to the day he died.

you don't exaggerate abuse, if that abuse was relatively minor (if there is such a thing). joe being a d*** would have probably been tolerable if he was just "disagreeable". some of us have disagreeable parents, and we accept that. there was something else altogether going on with joe and mj, joe and his boys, period.

[Edited 7/30/12 15:44pm]

Ellie said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Wow. Well ok then! Imma make a guess as to who "this family member/sibling/family source" is that Stacy Brown got his info from---was none other than.....

Probably not actually. Stacy Brown is largely connected to Rebbie more than anyone else.

They were friends at one time but they arent anymore--Rebbie and Stacy had a falling out at some point and arent speaking anymore. I acknowledge that Rebbie is involved in this lastest stunt but she's usually not one to talk to the media about family matters. I'm laying this one on LaToya. She probably got in touch with Stacy and gave him this little "exclusive" but didnt want to be revealed as the "family source" for this article. She's still trying to play her cards right.

Free2BMe said:

Azz said:

There is no 'Mike' without Joe.

There is also no Janet, Jermaine, Randy, Rebbie, Marlon, Jackie or Tito without Joe AND Katherine.

Janet, Jermaine, Randy, Rebbie, Marlon, Jackie, Tito & Katherine were not mentioned in the above quoted post, so I did not mention them either.

[Edited 7/30/12 16:11pm]

NaughtyKitty said:

Ellie said:

Probably not actually. Stacy Brown is largely connected to Rebbie more than anyone else.

They were friends at one time but they arent anymore--Rebbie and Stacy had a falling out at some point and arent speaking anymore. I acknowledge that Rebbie is involved in this lastest stunt but she's usually not one to talk to the media about family matters. I'm laying this one on LaToya. She probably got in touch with Stacy and gave him this little "exclusive" but didnt want to be revealed as the "family source" for this article. She's still trying to play her cards right.

Stacy Brown became Rebbie's manager. He was her manager and when he went on TV and called Michael an addict.

^He was her manager? I didnt know that she even had a manger. What was he managing--her career? They were associates/friends for years but I dont think he and Rebbie are friends anymore, I read they'd had a falling out at some point. They havent talked in years.

During happier and less drama times.

[Edited 7/30/12 16:49pm]

[Edited 7/30/12 16:50pm]

Free2BMe said:

NaughtyKitty said:

They were friends at one time but they arent anymore--Rebbie and Stacy had a falling out at some point and arent speaking anymore. I acknowledge that Rebbie is involved in this lastest stunt but she's usually not one to talk to the media about family matters. I'm laying this one on LaToya. She probably got in touch with Stacy and gave him this little "exclusive" but didnt want to be revealed as the "family source" for this article. She's still trying to play her cards right.

Stacy Brown became Rebbie's manager. He was her manager and when he went on TV and called Michael an addict.

.....and other things. He helped Bob Jones write that book and then he and Jones got exposed in court during the trial

Dude was on MSNBC every week during Michael's trial, with a smirk on his face and his lip gloss poppin'

NaughtyKitty said:

mookie said:

Why Janet Jackson became embroiled in family feud involving Michael's kids

By STACY BROWN

Even the most dysfunctional families have their sane one, and in the famously chaotic Jackson clan, that member has always been Janet.

Until now.

This past week, the family feuded publicly over the late Michael’s estate, with his children taking to Twitter to accuse their Aunt Janet and others of kidnapping their grandmother and legal guardian, Katherine, in order to wrest away control of the King of Pop’s fortune.

At the public memorial service for Michael on July 7, 2009, it was Janet who soothed an emotional Paris, then just 11 years old, as she tearfully remembered her father as “the best daddy,” and it was into Janet’s arms she flew after emotionally collapsing.

Nearly three years to the day, things are quite different. Last Monday, 14-year-old Paris Jackson not only defied her 46-year-old Aunt Janet but also defied the way the Jackson family has traditionally operated: Instead of keeping this latest family feud private, Paris, frantic over her relatives’ refusal to let her speak to her grandma, took to Twitter and declared matriarch Katherine missing.

The national media were quick to go on red alert, and Janet was caught on camera confronting her niece in the driveway of Katherine’s estate.

“You’re a spoiled little bitch!” Janet yelled.

“This is our house,” Paris shot back. “Not the Jackson family house. Get the f--k out!”

On Thursday, Paris’ brother Prince Michael, 15, posted a text message he’d sent to several relatives, including his famous aunt, listed in his iPhone simply as “Janet Jackson.”

“This is enough,” it read, “so I am texting you for the simple fact that WE DEMAND TO SPEAK TO MY GRANDMA NOW!!!”

Janet’s reply was terse: “Don’t let them pls.”

What’s happened to Janet Jackson? How is it that the seemingly calmest, most soft-spoken sibling could be so vicious to her niece and nephews?

Why would a woman who launched her solo career by publicly emancipating herself from her overbearing family — her 1986 breakthrough album was called “Control” — allow herself to become enmeshed in such an ugly family feud? And why would Janet — the only one of 10 Jackson siblings to have a career nearly as successful as Michael’s — allow her image to be tarnished this way?

One Jackson family member tells The Post the answer is simple: It’s all about money. She’s got some; Michael’s estate has more — Billboard recently estimated its net worth at $1 billion — and her siblings have none. She lives in fear of supporting them.

“Janet’s last three tours have failed to sell tickets, and she’s cut each of them short,” the sibling says. “She hasn’t had a hit record in more than a decade, and she no longer has a recording contract.”

This family member says that Janet’s net worth is estimated at $100 million but that “she only has money going out and nothing new coming in.”

Janet hasn’t had a hit song since 2001’s “Someone to Call My Lover,” and the last time she had any cultural relevance was in February 2004, after Justin Timberlake exposed her breast during their Super Bowl performance.

She’s starred in a couple of Tyler Perry films, but lately her brand has been defined by her yo-yo dieting (she’s a spokeswoman for Nutrisystem) and struggles with self-actualization. Her 2011 self-help book, “True You: A Journey to Finding and Loving Yourself,” was a best seller, ironic given that she hasn’t been able to detach fully from her destructive family — especially older brother Randy, whom she is said to worship.

“Janet has nothing to do,” her sibling says. “And she is devoted to any cause Randy takes up.”

It was Randy, says this sibling, who hatched the plan to remove Katherine from the Jackson home, challenge Michael’s will, remove the children from Katherine’s legal custody and ultimately gain control of the estate.

“Randy thought that if they were to publicly show that [Katherine] was no longer capable of caring for the children and no longer able to handle the day-to-day responsibilities of the house, then Randy could take her position.”

Randy, now 50, enlisted his sister Rebbie, 62, brothers Jermaine, 58, and Tito, 60, and Janet, the sibling says. The coup’s ultimate aim: to overthrow Michael’s estate executors, John Branca and John McClain.

With that, Randy would control the $70,000 monthly allowance Katherine gets from the estate and the $100,000 the children get.

About two weeks ago, Randy pushed the button on the plan.

Four of the Jackson siblings — Jermaine, Tito, Jackie and Marlon — were doing a concert in New Mexico. Randy coordinated with Katherine’s assistant, Janice Smith, to have the 82-year-old matriarch ready for “a long vacation.”

A doctor hired by the siblings was brought in to visit with Katherine and promptly told her she needed rest, the family member says. The siblings kept her isolated from outside contact, busying her with games of Uno while Jermaine issued statements that his mother had suffered a series of strokes and needed rest.

One can only wonder what the Janet of 1986 — scared, free, struggling to carve her own persona — would make of today’s Janet, back in league with her tormenters against McClain.

And yet, not all is well with her siblings. Janet has fought viciously with La Toya, Jermaine and Jackie.

In 2001, Janet bought a Las Vegas home for her mother with the stipulation that family patriarch Joe Jackson never be allowed to live there, according to Rebbie Jackson.

“She never forgave Joseph for what he did to us when we were children. She doesn’t deal with him at all,” Rebbie said.

While Janet has helped pay bills for her mother in the past and paid her brother Marlon’s mortgage for a full year and moved him to Atlanta, she has mostly been careful about helping her siblings with their cash problems.

“They need to get jobs if they think I’m going to do what Michael did for them. They are grown-ass men. I’m not giving them nothing,” Janet said, according to this family member.

While Janet’s relationship with Michael appeared close, the siblings were one another’s biggest rivals. Michael even once asked Janet to stop using her surname when she performed.

It wasn’t until after repeated pleas from Katherine Jackson that Janet went to a Santa Maria, Calif., courthouse to show support for Michael during his child-molestation trial in 2005.

While Janet’s fortune remains stable, she fears for her security should she find herself supporting eight siblings and their families.

While Michael was in hiding in Bahrain following his acquittal, Janet started paying Katherine’s bills and giving her siblings money. But she has begun to cut them off.

Randy and Jermaine, who have children by the same woman, had previously requested that the estate pay their back child support, something Branca ultimately approved. Randy once owed as much as $150,000 to his ex.

Since Michael’s death in 2009, Branca and McClain have worked miracles to alleviate the $500 million debt left by the legend. The estate owns a share in Sony/ATV music publishing, which contains all of Jackson’s hits and the prized Beatles catalog. It is said to be worth upward of $2 billion. The bulk of it will go to Jackson’s three children: Paris, Prince Michael and 10-year-old Blanket.

If Janet doesn’t support her brothers, the estate could.

“It is a fact that the primary reason Janet got involved in Randy’s plan,” says a sibling, “is because she wants to see her brothers control Michael’s money so they won’t come to her anymore.”

After Prince tweeted that his late father had warned him about “certain people,” the family member said one of those people was Janet. Often calling her “evil, selfish and cheap,” Michael warned his children that Janet wouldn’t be the best of aunts.

Last week, California Judge Mitchell Beckloff appointed Tito’s son, TJ Jackson, guardian of Prince, Paris and Blanket.

TJ’s mother, Dee Dee Jackson, was murdered in 1994 by a man she’d begun dating after divorcing Tito. Michael took TJ and TJ’s two brothers under his wing. He was part of the Michael Jackson-inspired music group 3T.

As such, TJ is inclined to take the side of Jackson’s kids in disputes and said either Rebbie or Janet had a fake doctor persuade Katherine to leave California.

“I am taking actions that I have deemed appropriate to protect Michael’s children,” TJ said in court.

Janet, it’s clear, will no longer be a part of their lives, and this thwarted plan has eroded her power.

The three children have been reunited with their grandmother and have vowed to stay as far as possible from their aunts and uncles. Janet’s efforts to give her brothers a financial parachute has backfired.

“[The children] will probably never let this go,” says one sibling. “They certainly won’t forget it. And the ones the family members tried to paint as bad guys are the very ones those children will always see as protectors.”

Stacy Brown is a reporter and longtime friend of the Jackson family. (LOL)

http://www.nypost.com/p/n...z228XyTsdM

[Edited 7/30/12 12:48pm]

Wow. Well ok then! Imma make a guess as to who "this family member/sibling/family source" is that Stacy Brown got his info from---was none other than.....

But is this article credible?

REGARDLESS...

We already know Janet isnt this innocent normal perfect Jackson as the media likes to portray so even if this is not all truth I do think this has some truth to it... Ive always got the vibe that Janet is selfish with the way she has allowed her family to use Michaels money among other things. I dont blame her for not getting involved in her brothers bullshit but alot of times she just seems like she doesnt care. At least Michael showed he cared.... I also think alot of what Janet said about Michael with being all close among other things is bullshit which Michael confirmed any way in the Rabbi tapes.

mjscarousal said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Wow. Well ok then! Imma make a guess as to who "this family member/sibling/family source" is that Stacy Brown got his info from---was none other than.....

But is this article credible?

REGARDLESS...

We already know Janet isnt this innocent normal perfect Jackson as the media likes to portray so even if this is not all truth I do think this has some truth to it... Ive always got the vibe that Janet is selfish with the way she has allowed her family to use Michaels money among other things. I dont blame her for not getting involved in her brothers bullshit but alot of times she just seems like she doesnt care. At least Michael showed he cared.... I also think alot of what Janet said about Michael with being all close among other things is bullshit which Michael confirmed any way in the Rabbi tapes.

Stop painting Michael as an innocent victim.

Janet also gave much money to her family. She has bought houses for her siblings and mother, she gave $10,000 to Reebie a month, royalties to Joe after she fired him, profit from Rhythm Nation to Marlon etc

Giving money is not a sign of love or care (something Michael preached). Michael secluded himself from his family because they were trying to help him.

They were there for him when he wanted them:

and she defended him when he paid $ 25 million to a child who accused him of molestation:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...f08cX6gLZU

But when it was his brothers or sisters time to shine, he was never there:

Here are ALL the Jacksons awarding the brothers for their achievments in the music industry.

or when Janet was crowned the first MTV ICON. Every celebrity in the music industry, including her family was there.

Except Michael, who chose to send in an emotionless 15 second clip:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...AB3r2boGwU

[Edited 7/30/12 18:45pm]

bboy87 said:

Free2BMe said:

Stacy Brown became Rebbie's manager. He was her manager and when he went on TV and called Michael an addict.

.....and other things. He helped Bob Jones write that book and then he and Jones got exposed in court during the trial

Dude was on MSNBC every week during Michael's trial, with a smirk on his face and his lip gloss poppin'

Yes, Stacy Brown was Rebbie's manger. In fact,he was a manager as recent as 8-9 months ago. This is the way that this family is. They will associate with people who tried to destroy their brother. They are just that weak-minded. This skillet-faced bastard was even sitting at a table with Sneddon, Diamond and other scum as they had dinner. Stacy Brown is an "Uncle Tom" who was USED by Sneddon and the prosecution. After they lost, I bet they treated Stacy Brown like the $#%%^& he is.

TANAY JACKSON SPEAKS TO INSIDE EDITION ABOUT FAMILY'S FEUD

http://www.insideedition....-feud.aspx

IS KATHERINE JACKSON TOO OLD TO RAISE MICHAEL'S KIDS?

Airdate : 7/27/2012

Katherine Jackson should not be raising Michael Jackson's children, according to her own granddaughter.

Tito Jackson's daughter, Tanay Jackson, thinks it's just too much for her ailing 82-year-old grandmother.

"I don't think she should continue watching the kids. I just feel like she needs to rest. I feel like she does not need to be under the stress of the whole situation," said Tanay.

Tanay, a performer like her famous relatives, says she's trying hard not to take sides in the civil war between Paris and aunt Janet Jackson.

"Janet is a strong person and being a very strong aunt, and she's just putting her foot down," said Tanay.

She believes that Michael's final wishes should be respected. His will leaves everything to his mother and three children. Several of Michael's siblings, including Janet and Jermaine, are contesting the will's validity.

"If Michael wanted to put his brothers and sisters in the will, he would have," said Tanay.

Meanwhile, a friend of Debbie Rowe, the biological mother of Prince and Paris, was quoted as saying, "The circus is very disconcerting to Debbie; she's concerned about their welfare."

Paris and her brother Prince continue their Twitter campaign to convince the world that a sinister conspiracy is afoot to take away their inheritance and keep them away from their beloved grandmother.

Paris was still up at 1:30 in the morning tweeting, "I love my brothers so [expletive] much," along with a photo of her with Prince and Blanket.

It's hard not to feel sympathy for the Jackson kids who lost their dad at such a young age. But Gladys Knight reacted unsympathetically to reports that Paris cursed at aunt Janet during that now infamous argument in the driveway.

She told viewers of The Talk, "If she had called me that, she would have no teeth. That's how I was brought up."

Tanay Jackson says she's looking forward to a Jackson family reunion, which is scheduled for next month.

http://www.insideedition....-kids.aspx

So Taryll Jackson says that Tanay is not their half-sister.

But, by speaking out, Tanay seems to have created some hoopla of her own. Taryll Jackson – the middle of Tito’s three boys – denied she is even his half-sister.

Referring to an earlier interview she gave he tweeted on Sunday: “Tanay Jackson is NOT related to us.”

In 2008 Tanay – then 25 – filed a petition in a Brooklyn Family Court to declare that the former Jackson 5 member is her father, according to the New York Post.

http://www.radaronline.co...ister-says

Taryll tweeted to E! that Tanay is NOT related to them.

Homegirl ain't gonna stop doing interviews though

NaughtyKitty said:

TANAY JACKSON SPEAKS TO INSIDE EDITION ABOUT FAMILY'S FEUD

Airdate : 7/30/2012

As civil war erupts in the Jackson clan, Michael Jackson's niece, Tanay, is taking sides against the family matriarch, Katherine Jackson.

She says Katherine should not be allowed to continue raising Michael's children—Paris, Prince Michael and Blanket.

"I don't think she should raise the kids," said Tanay, "I understand that she is attached to them and she has been raising them and that's probably why she still wants to have a little bit more involvement."

"Do you think your grandmother is too old to raise these kids?" asked INSIDE EDITION's Les Trent.

"Yeah! Yeah, I think she needs a rest!" said Tanay.

Tanay, the daughter of Tito, doesn't have any doubt about who should have sole guardianship: her own half-brother, T.J.

"The best person to raise them would be T.J. He's younger. He's a dad himself and he's a good dad," said Tanay.

T.J. is the former boyfriend of Kim Kardashian. Now, he has three children of his own and he's become a father figure to Michael's kids.

"Is he close to the kids?" asked Trent.

"Yes. They like him very much, that I know," said Tanay.

Tanay, who is trying to forge her own singing career, is the first member of the Jackson clan to speak out about the murky details of the growing rift inside the Jacksons.

She says that now-notorious spat between Janet Jackson and Paris caught on tape came out of an attempt by Janet to stop the headstrong teen from tweeting about the conflict.

Shocking tweets like this:

"My grandmother is missing. I haven't spoken with her in a week. I want her home now...If anybody sees my grandmother please call the authorities."

"These images of Paris and her aunt getting in each other's face—what is the deal with with Janet and Paris?" asked Trent.

"Janet means very well. She knew that Paris did all the tweets and that's probably why she wanted to take Paris' phone away, so she wouldn't continue to cause all that hoopla," said Tanay.

"What's Paris like?" asked Trent.

"Paris is a teenager. She's a very sensitive person and she is doing what she thinks is right. Everyone will come together and things will be okay," said Tanay.

She says Katherine was not held against her will in a luxury Arizona resort, but that she was was emotionally and physically exhausted.

"Why was she in Arizona?" asked Trent.

"She needed a break. She just needed to be close with family and talk out her issues and hash things out, and she needed some space to think," said Tanay.

Tanay believes the Jackson clan will come together and the feud will be settled. But with a reported billion dollar estate in play, she says anything could happen.

"What do you think Michael would think about all this?" asked Trent.

"I definitely think he would not be happy," replied Tanay.

http://www.insideedition....-feud.aspx

IS KATHERINE JACKSON TOO OLD TO RAISE MICHAEL'S KIDS?

Airdate : 7/27/2012

Katherine Jackson should not be raising Michael Jackson's children, according to her own granddaughter.

Tito Jackson's daughter, Tanay Jackson, thinks it's just too much for her ailing 82-year-old grandmother.

"I don't think she should continue watching the kids. I just feel like she needs to rest. I feel like she does not need to be under the stress of the whole situation," said Tanay.

Tanay, a performer like her famous relatives, says she's trying hard not to take sides in the civil war between Paris and aunt Janet Jackson.

"Janet is a strong person and being a very strong aunt, and she's just putting her foot down," said Tanay.

She believes that Michael's final wishes should be respected. His will leaves everything to his mother and three children. Several of Michael's siblings, including Janet and Jermaine, are contesting the will's validity.

"If Michael wanted to put his brothers and sisters in the will, he would have," said Tanay.

Meanwhile, a friend of Debbie Rowe, the biological mother of Prince and Paris, was quoted as saying, "The circus is very disconcerting to Debbie; she's concerned about their welfare."

Paris and her brother Prince continue their Twitter campaign to convince the world that a sinister conspiracy is afoot to take away their inheritance and keep them away from their beloved grandmother.

Paris was still up at 1:30 in the morning tweeting, "I love my brothers so [expletive] much," along with a photo of her with Prince and Blanket.

It's hard not to feel sympathy for the Jackson kids who lost their dad at such a young age. But Gladys Knight reacted unsympathetically to reports that Paris cursed at aunt Janet during that now infamous argument in the driveway.

She told viewers of The Talk, "If she had called me that, she would have no teeth. That's how I was brought up."

Tanay Jackson says she's looking forward to a Jackson family reunion, which is scheduled for next month.

http://www.insideedition....-kids.aspx