aardvark15 said:

babynoz said:

people lump everybody into the category of being a stan (whatever the hell that is)

It refers the title character in Eminem's hit song Stan, a song about about a crazed fan

Thankies! Never heard it...

babynoz said:

aardvark15 said:

It refers the title character in Eminem's hit song Stan, a song about about a crazed fan

Thankies! Never heard it...

I've never liked Eminem but I've always loved Stan. Definetly his best song

babynoz said:

SoulAlive said:

What a loser

This is the same Randy who was shot by Tina Turner when he shattered the sliding glass door of her home to get to one of her friends who was hiding from him, right?

Wait a minute. What?

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

babynoz said:

This is the same Randy who was shot by Tina Turner when he shattered the sliding glass door of her home to get to one of her friends who was hiding from him, right?

Wait a minute. What?

That's what he claims....

http://www.tmz.com/2011/0...n-twitter/

and

http://prince.org/msg/8/3...?&pg=1

[Edited 7/27/12 16:55pm]

musicology54 said:

You know its a slow news day when you post pics of prince on a thread that isnt about prince.

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I can't believe I'm saying this, but 3T, yes, 3T*, is the only thing about this

family that is remotely interesting and worth mentioning.

(goes to listen to Anything).*

babynoz said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Wait a minute. What?

That's what he claims....

http://www.tmz.com/2011/0...n-twitter/

and

http://prince.org/msg/8/3...?&pg=1

[Edited 7/27/12 16:55pm]

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

babynoz said:

That's what he claims....

http://www.tmz.com/2011/0...n-twitter/

and

http://prince.org/msg/8/3...?&pg=1

[Edited 7/27/12 16:55pm]

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Damn sis, I thought you knew...

Best gif EVER!

CynicKill said:

What performance is this?

babynoz said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

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Damn sis, I thought you knew...

Girl I really did not know Randy's ass was so damn grimy. He is off the fucking chain and now suddenly he is the spokesperson and ring leader of this other shit. It's starting to make sense now.

[Edited 7/27/12 19:19pm]

SoulAlive said:

musicjunky318 said:

Randy Jackson

The Estate Is Trying To Kill My Mother

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Randy Jackson believes the executors of the Michael Jackson Estate are conspiring to KILL Katherine Jackson.

Randy made the allegation in an emotional Twitter rant moments ago ... saying, "It is my fear and belief, that they are trying to take my mother’s life."

In the rant, Jackson states his case as to why he believes the MJ Estate is evil ... claiming they are trying to isolate Katherine "just like they did to Michael, in order to propagate their lies, financial agendas and to protect a fraudulent will."

Jackson continues, "It is clear that anyone who stands up against the Executors of the Estate - John Branca, John McClain and their attorney Howard Weitzman - is denied access to my mother."

Randy also says the Estate blocked Janet, Rebbie and Jermaine from the family home in Calabasas, CA ... where Michael's kids live with Katherine.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/0...ullwrapper

What a loser

Actually I don't think what he said was that far-fetched. Remember, the ONLY people named in the Will to get MJ's money are his mom and his kids.

I could see someone stirring up all this drama, knowing that Katherine is older and hoping that she won't be able to handle it. And then all the money would go to his kids, and if his kids are in that person's back pocket...

You have to remember that some people on this planet just don't give a shit and will pretty much do whatever they can to get a couple of dollars in their hand. Not everybody has a point they won't go beyond.

And initially I kind of held TJ Jackson responsible for some of this shit but whose to say that he isn't just some unwitting puppet for someone else who is in his ear whispering shit to make him turn on his family? To some extent I think that's going on with Michael's kids too, that they're being told things by someone who is trying to position themselves in a way to get access to that money and so they're manipulating them to turn them against the rest of Michael's family. Probably because they know that if the rest of the family and MJ's kids are close, that the family will be looking out for those kids and warning them to stay away from certain people.

Think about it - this family has been in showbusiness for decades. Most of them are probably pretty adept at knowing a rat when they see one. So it makes sense to me that there's someone there trying to draw a wedge between the family and those kids because they know the family stands in the way of them getting access to that money via the kids.

And they were probably using Katherine initially as a catalyst to turn the kids against the family, telling them that the family was holding their grandmother against her will.

All guesswork? Absolutely. I don't know any of them to be able to say what's going on for sure. But if you look at it logically and without the bias of immediately assuming that MJ's siblings have to be at fault, then you'll start to realize there's probably some crap going on behind the scenes that we're not aware of.

And I think it says alot that even Janet is getting involved in this, when she usually tries to fly below the radar and not get involved in ANYthing. If she's putting her neck on the line here there has to be a good reason for it, and I doubt it's monetary in nature because I'm pretty sure she has a shitload of money herself and would help out her family if they needed it. I doubt this is about her trying to get a cut of MJ's cash or participating in some shitty behavior because she doesn't want to help out her own family. She does her own thing but at the same time she's always seemed to be pretty pro-family to me and like she loves her siblings and her mom.

And for the yokels in the thread insisting that there was some big wedge between MJ and his siblings - they were right there with him during the trials and clearly he wanted it otherwise they wouldn't have been. And they were at the MSG special too. Am I saying their relationship was picture-perfect? No, no sibling relationship is. But I bet as much as they annoyed the shit out of each other, they loved each other just as much, just like any set of brothers and sisters. And I don't look at MJ leaving them out of the will as some sort of statement of hatred towards them. If anything, he probably figured "Oh why waste time naming off everybody specifically in the will, I know my mom will take care of it and give them money if they should need it".

And like I said, it's not very surprising at all how sides are being taken among the MJ fan community based on color, again considering that most MJ fans are European and how racist comments are pretty much common in the Michael Jackson fan community. MJ was a big believer in everybody being the same and equal, but that doesn't mean his fans necessarily live by that, no matter what lip-service they might give stating otherwise. A lot of the most ignorant race-based comments I've heard, have come from Michael Jackson fans which I always found ironic considering that MICHAEL IS BLACK.

So no, it doesn't surprise me that most of them are assuming that the family has some kind of sinister intent and is taking swings at them...and I've noticed from bits and pieces of what I've seen here and on Twitter that now they're starting to take aim at MJ's MOTHER.

Michael seemed to be a decent guy but he deserved better fans than what he ultimately got.

[Edited 7/27/12 19:25pm]

godyssey said:

Best gif EVER!

CynicKill said:

What performance is this?

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@anaylyst

I have for the most part avoided the lunacy of the thread but i agree

with you for the most part as far as people automatically assuming

that the brothers always have bad intent. They have their faults too but

like you stated it's not far fetched that somebody is in these kids and TJ's

ear to divide the family while thinking ahead of how to get their hands on

that money like the Fatback Band.

godyssey said:

phunkdaddy said:

@anaylyst

I have for the most part avoided the lunacy of the thread but i agree

with you for the most part as far as people automatically assuming

that the brothers always have bad intent. They have their faults too but

like you stated it's not far fetched that somebody is in these kids and TJ's

ear to divide the family while thinking ahead of how to get their hands on

that money like the Fatback Band.

Seriously, I still can't understand why you people are making excuses and defending Randy, Jermaine, Rebbie and Janet, especially Janet and Randy, after all of the EVIDENCE that you have seen. IF this was a school assignment and students had to write a conclusion on what they have seen, read,etc. and come up with the idiotic conclusions that you people have, they would FAIL the test or assignment.

NO ONE forced Janet, Randy and the rest to try to fool the public with their stunt. They tried to pull the wool over the public's eye and this elaborate STUNT would have worked but for the innocent concern of a young girl and her brothers about their grandmother. No one is trying to divide the Jacksons except the people involved in this deception-Janet, Randy, Jermaine, Rebbie. No one made Janet and Randy try to FORCE Paris and her brothers to go with them. No one FORCED Janet to run up in Paris face and take her cell phone ONLY because Paris exposed Janet's lie. EVERYTHING, and I

mean EVERYTHING is because the Jacksons THOUGHT that they could pull a scam, garner public sympathy and get away with it. This all is about $$$$ and nothing else. The Jacksons did this to themselves. Stop blaming other people for the Jacksons stupidity, ingorance, greed and pathetic desperatiion.

phunkdaddy said:

@anaylyst

I have for the most part avoided the lunacy of the thread but i agree

with you for the most part as far as people automatically assuming

that the brothers always have bad intent. They have their faults too but

like you stated it's not far fetched that somebody is in these kids and TJ's

ear to divide the family while thinking ahead of how to get their hands on

that money like the Fatback Band.

I agree as well.

For MJ die-hards, Janet getting involved proves her "true colors", but it could just as well (and more likely) be that something in the water doesn't compute.

I think as far as katherine is concerned it could've just been a big misunderstanding concerning her health. They didn't want it to get out so they kept it to themselves.

wow! Looks like we got through the entire day without one new shocking development/headline I was waiting for the next shoe to drop.

SoulAlive said:

wow! Looks like we got through the entire day without one new shocking development/headline I was waiting for the next shoe to drop.

There is a family reunion that starts either today or tomorrow.

lazycrockett said:

Its like once a day these idiots play spin the bottle and the winner gets to take the crazy pill.

Analyst said:

SoulAlive said:

What a loser

Actually I don't think what he said was that far-fetched. Remember, the ONLY people named in the Will to get MJ's money are his mom and his kids.

I could see someone stirring up all this drama, knowing that Katherine is older and hoping that she won't be able to handle it. And then all the money would go to his kids, and if his kids are in that person's back pocket...

You have to remember that some people on this planet just don't give a shit and will pretty much do whatever they can to get a couple of dollars in their hand. Not everybody has a point they won't go beyond.

And initially I kind of held TJ Jackson responsible for some of this shit but whose to say that he isn't just some unwitting puppet for someone else who is in his ear whispering shit to make him turn on his family? To some extent I think that's going on with Michael's kids too, that they're being told things by someone who is trying to position themselves in a way to get access to that money and so they're manipulating them to turn them against the rest of Michael's family. Probably because they know that if the rest of the family and MJ's kids are close, that the family will be looking out for those kids and warning them to stay away from certain people.

Think about it - this family has been in showbusiness for decades. Most of them are probably pretty adept at knowing a rat when they see one. So it makes sense to me that there's someone there trying to draw a wedge between the family and those kids because they know the family stands in the way of them getting access to that money via the kids.

And they were probably using Katherine initially as a catalyst to turn the kids against the family, telling them that the family was holding their grandmother against her will.

All guesswork? Absolutely. I don't know any of them to be able to say what's going on for sure. But if you look at it logically and without the bias of immediately assuming that MJ's siblings have to be at fault, then you'll start to realize there's probably some crap going on behind the scenes that we're not aware of.

And I think it says alot that even Janet is getting involved in this, when she usually tries to fly below the radar and not get involved in ANYthing. If she's putting her neck on the line here there has to be a good reason for it, and I doubt it's monetary in nature because I'm pretty sure she has a shitload of money herself and would help out her family if they needed it. I doubt this is about her trying to get a cut of MJ's cash or participating in some shitty behavior because she doesn't want to help out her own family. She does her own thing but at the same time she's always seemed to be pretty pro-family to me and like she loves her siblings and her mom.

And for the yokels in the thread insisting that there was some big wedge between MJ and his siblings - they were right there with him during the trials and clearly he wanted it otherwise they wouldn't have been. And they were at the MSG special too. Am I saying their relationship was picture-perfect? No, no sibling relationship is. But I bet as much as they annoyed the shit out of each other, they loved each other just as much, just like any set of brothers and sisters. And I don't look at MJ leaving them out of the will as some sort of statement of hatred towards them. If anything, he probably figured "Oh why waste time naming off everybody specifically in the will, I know my mom will take care of it and give them money if they should need it".

And like I said, it's not very surprising at all how sides are being taken among the MJ fan community based on color, again considering that most MJ fans are European and how racist comments are pretty much common in the Michael Jackson fan community. MJ was a big believer in everybody being the same and equal, but that doesn't mean his fans necessarily live by that, no matter what lip-service they might give stating otherwise. A lot of the most ignorant race-based comments I've heard, have come from Michael Jackson fans which I always found ironic considering that MICHAEL IS BLACK.

So no, it doesn't surprise me that most of them are assuming that the family has some kind of sinister intent and is taking swings at them...and I've noticed from bits and pieces of what I've seen here and on Twitter that now they're starting to take aim at MJ's MOTHER.

Michael seemed to be a decent guy but he deserved better fans than what he ultimately got.

[Edited 7/27/12 19:25pm]

Do you mean like when Jermaine saw a bunch of rats and took his name off that letter?

Free2BMe said:

phunkdaddy said:

@anaylyst

I have for the most part avoided the lunacy of the thread but i agree

with you for the most part as far as people automatically assuming

that the brothers always have bad intent. They have their faults too but

like you stated it's not far fetched that somebody is in these kids and TJ's

ear to divide the family while thinking ahead of how to get their hands on

that money like the Fatback Band.

Seriously, I still can't understand why you people are making excuses and defending Randy, Jermaine, Rebbie and Janet, especially Janet and Randy, after all of the EVIDENCE that you have seen. IF this was a school assignment and students had to write a conclusion on what they have seen, read,etc. and come up with the idiotic conclusions that you people have, they would FAIL the test or assignment.

NO ONE forced Janet, Randy and the rest to try to fool the public with their stunt. They tried to pull the wool over the public's eye and this elaborate STUNT would have worked but for the innocent concern of a young girl and her brothers about their grandmother. No one is trying to divide the Jacksons except the people involved in this deception-Janet, Randy, Jermaine, Rebbie. No one made Janet and Randy try to FORCE Paris and her brothers to go with them. No one FORCED Janet to run up in Paris face and take her cell phone ONLY because Paris exposed Janet's lie. EVERYTHING, and I

mean EVERYTHING is because the Jacksons THOUGHT that they could pull a scam, garner public sympathy and get away with it. This all is about $$$$ and nothing else. The Jacksons did this to themselves. Stop blaming other people for the Jacksons stupidity, ingorance, greed and pathetic desperatiion.

Right. And I and most people would still feel the same way if this were the Burke family that lived down the street or somewhere in Idaho or some other place. The fact that they are the Jacksons has absolutely nothing to do with the outrage and heavy criticism over their disgusting actions. It doesnt matter that they are a famous family in the spotlight. It doesnt matter that they are Michael Jackson's relatives. It doesnt matter that there are a lot of MJ fans commenting on this. I have read many comments from people on different websites on the internet--many non-MJ/non-Jackson fans saying the same as what's said in here and are turned off by this family. Anyone with a reasonable amount of common sense and intelligence can see what's going on and see right thru Randy and them's BS and can see the shadiness of this family from a mile away.

The resident Jackson family defenders/MJ fan bashers in this thread pick and choose what they want to read and believe in this case. They are the blind ones. There is not much that is defendable in the horrible actions of Randy and Co. and their arguments are weak so they have to resort to bashing MJ fans and calling anyone who criticizes the family a stan

I dare the defenders to read this book:

A very informative book on the family dynamics written by Jermaine's ex. This book came out in 1995 and is a very revealing look at this highly dysfunctional family. One will better understand the craziness going on right now after reading this book.

http://www.barnesandnoble...1016046792

[Edited 7/27/12 20:49pm]

Jackson Brothers Tour
Jermaine Travels Alone

The Jackson brothers are NOT living up to the name of their "Unity" tour -- despite continuing to perform together -- because Jermaine just arrived to the airport on his OWN in Los Angeles.

Tito, Jackie, and Marlon arrived together shortly afterward -- telling us they're happy their mother has finally returned home after disappearing for over a week in Arizona.

Interesting that Tito and Jermaine have agreed to work together -- considering Tito TURNED on Jermaine (and Janet, Rebbie and Randy) and denounced the plot to overthrow the MJ Estate.

TMZ broke the story ... the living members of the Jackson 5 are performing together tonight in Saratoga.

Should be an interesting show.

NaughtyKitty said:

7/27/2012 3:40 PM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Jackson Brothers Tour
Jermaine Travels Alone

exclusive

The Jackson brothers are NOT living up to the name of their "Unity" tour -- despite continuing to perform together -- because Jermaine just arrived to the airport on his OWN in Los Angeles.

Tito, Jackie, and Marlon arrived together shortly afterward -- telling us they're happy their mother has finally returned home after disappearing for over a week in Arizona.

Interesting that Tito and Jermaine have agreed to work together -- considering Tito TURNED on Jermaine (and Janet, Rebbie and Randy) and denounced the plot to overthrow the MJ Estate.

TMZ broke the story ... the living members of the Jackson 5 are performing together tonight in Saratoga.

Should be an interesting show.

Oh brother TMZ

aardvark15 said:

musicology54 said:

He kept on bashing mj fans for no reason. Thats why is was banned.

Because some of them bash people without even looking at evidence. His banning shows how biased this site is.

Just try not to cross them too much and you'll be fine. They're a brutal bunch though.

lazycrockett said:

Its like once a day these idiots play spin the bottle and the winner gets to take the crazy pill.

Free2BMe said:

phunkdaddy said:

@anaylyst

I have for the most part avoided the lunacy of the thread but i agree

with you for the most part as far as people automatically assuming

that the brothers always have bad intent. They have their faults too but

like you stated it's not far fetched that somebody is in these kids and TJ's

ear to divide the family while thinking ahead of how to get their hands on

that money like the Fatback Band.

Seriously, I still can't understand why you people are making excuses and defending Randy, Jermaine, Rebbie and Janet, especially Janet and Randy, after all of the EVIDENCE that you have seen. IF this was a school assignment and students had to write a conclusion on what they have seen, read,etc. and come up with the idiotic conclusions that you people have, they would FAIL the test or assignment.

NO ONE forced Janet, Randy and the rest to try to fool the public with their stunt. They tried to pull the wool over the public's eye and this elaborate STUNT would have worked but for the innocent concern of a young girl and her brothers about their grandmother. No one is trying to divide the Jacksons except the people involved in this deception-Janet, Randy, Jermaine, Rebbie. No one made Janet and Randy try to FORCE Paris and her brothers to go with them. No one FORCED Janet to run up in Paris face and take her cell phone ONLY because Paris exposed Janet's lie. EVERYTHING, and I

mean EVERYTHING is because the Jacksons THOUGHT that they could pull a scam, garner public sympathy and get away with it. This all is about $$$$ and nothing else. The Jacksons did this to themselves. Stop blaming other people for the Jacksons stupidity, ingorance, greed and pathetic desperatiion.

I'm not defending any of them. I don't have shit to gain from defending any of them. Believe me i'm not even engaged in this shit. The biggest high i got off of any of this

shit is listening to Tom Joyner clown them on the radio this morning. I know this family

have issues but it would be assinine to think that the executors of the estate don't have

their eye on a slice of that pie then you are sadly mistaken and the siblings would be very wise to keep an eye on their mother and not let this business of the estate and kids

stress her out because if Katherine has one foot in the grave the sharks will already have

their teeth sharpened to dig in.

Oh please.... The Jacksons just care about money plain and simple. They dont give a damn about the kids or Katherine. There using Katherine to get the money and exploited the children since their father passed for money.