kibbles said:

phunkdaddy said:

@anaylyst

I have for the most part avoided the lunacy of the thread but i agree

with you for the most part as far as people automatically assuming

that the brothers always have bad intent. They have their faults too but

like you stated it's not far fetched that somebody is in these kids and TJ's

ear to divide the family while thinking ahead of how to get their hands on

that money like the Fatback Band.

don't know why my previous post didn't go through. anyway....

the main problem with analyst's breakdown is this, the money is already under the control of other people, not the family. tj doesn't call the shots on this money, and neither do the kids. neither does katherine. THE EXECUTORS control the money and will for the forseable future. mj's will says that in the event that the executors cannot fulfill their duties, then a bank will be appointed. the family will NEVER control mj's estate. therefore, is no reason for "somebody" to divide the kids and tjs against the family. those "somebodies" already their hands on the money.

but everybody keep saying they want mike's money, how are they gonna get it? you right they already have the money,the plan is for them to make sure they keep it.some family members seem to have a problem with the men who are currently in control, i didnt see anywhere in that letter where one of the siblings are asking to take over.once everything is cleared up with the debts and probate the money will start going to the beneficiaries, it would make more sense to me for the greedy kids to chill until mommy can hook them up, once she's gone her share goes back to the kids and she cant will her own kids any of mike's money, so what would they gain from 'harming' their mother?

kibbles said:

phunkdaddy said:

@anaylyst

I have for the most part avoided the lunacy of the thread but i agree

with you for the most part as far as people automatically assuming

that the brothers always have bad intent. They have their faults too but

like you stated it's not far fetched that somebody is in these kids and TJ's

ear to divide the family while thinking ahead of how to get their hands on

that money like the Fatback Band.

don't know why my previous post didn't go through. anyway....

the main problem with analyst's breakdown is this, the money is already under the control of other people, not the family. tj doesn't call the shots on this money, and neither do the kids. neither does katherine. THE EXECUTORS control the money and will for the forseable future. mj's will says that in the event that the executors cannot fulfill their duties, then a bank will be appointed. the family will NEVER control mj's estate. therefore, is no reason for "somebody" to divide the kids and tjs against the family. those "somebodies" already their hands on the money.

Exactly. When you consider the money at this point in the game. The only way it seems to get to it is having guardianship of the kids.

SoulAlive said:

mookie said:

This is the question that keeps getting asked. All throughout the week those reporting on this story kept asking this and last night the guy on CNN said he has asked so many of Janet's friends and even they don't get it.

Anyway saw this earlier.

Jackson Family Feud Could Damage Janet Jackson's Career, Experts Say

With a security video showing Janet Jackson snatching n...cell phone from her, allegations that she called Michael’s daughter a "b...lapped her, and now with Prince Michael Jackson's family text messages going public, many wonder if Janet has damaged her career for good.

“The Jackson family war is awful for the Janet Jackson brand," Ronn Torossian, CEO of 5WPR tells me. "Allegations of physical confrontations, cops being called to the house and public letters by Michael Jackson Jr. are amazingly damaging for Janet Jackson’s career and public persona ... The Jackson family has been through so much scandal through the years and this family war, if it progresses, could make headlines worldwide for months. One wonders if Janet and her siblings will be seen as simply trying to take money from Michael’s kids."

But marketing entrepreneur Peter Shankman argues that, at this point, Janet has very little to lose and that her career has already been dead for quite some time. However, not everyone thinks the recent negative publicity will stop Janet from making another comeback.

“If one dead Jackson can come back to life, [Michael’s estate earned over $475 million since his death] then the career of a surviving Jackson -- Janet Jackson -- should never be written off as fatally injured," says marketing consultant, Huffington Post contributor and CEO of Hanft Projects, Adam Hanft.

http://www.huffingtonpost...10754.html

Janet's been having career problems for awhile now,and this latest stunt won't do her any favors.She really should have stayed out of this fiasco.

That is a bunch of bull. Janet is just trying to protect her Mother.Anybody would act unlike themselves when their Mother is involved. Its nothing wrong with that.The situation had to be very serious for Janet to risk her image to put that lil spoiled brat Paris in check.. Paris has gotten so stuck up since she now knows the power she has.Even though the events that transpired we're wrong. Auntie Janet was the adult here. Not Little miss stuck up Paris..Janet should have put her over her lap & spanked her..The nerve of her to disrespect royalty like that & snatch back her phone & walk away..

Janet's career will be ok & is not dead like this article portrayed it.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

alphastreet said:

mjscarousal said:

Janet showed her true colors after Michael passed when she did all those interviews throwing him under bus and making false assumptions. From then on I realize that she isnt all innocent like the media and her fans like to portray and she is shady.

The reason why Janet got involved because she do not what her greedy brothers to go after her money like they went after Michaels all these years. She rather them steal her brothers money For Janet, this is not about money, this is about sustaining the money she already has from her family cause trust me she dont give a damn about the kids or the family. She just wants to live her life and not be bothered. She hasnt been bothered for decades and now all of a sudden wanna believe she cares about her brothers estate? SURE. She cares about the bros getting off her ass and them getting Michaels money before Katherine passes...

This.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

SoulAlive said:

Janet's been having career problems for awhile now,and this latest stunt won't do her any favors.She really should have stayed out of this fiasco.

That is a bunch of bull. Janet is just trying to protect her Mother.Anybody would act unlike themselves when their Mother is involved. Its nothing wrong with that.The situation had to be very serious for Janet to risk her image to put that lil spoiled brat Paris in check.. Paris has gotten so stuck up since she now knows the power she has.Even though the events that transpired we're wrong. Auntie Janet was the adult here. Not Little miss stuck up Paris..Janet should have put her over her lap & spanked her..The nerve of her to disrespect royalty like that & snatch back her phone & walk away..

Janet's career will be ok & is not dead like this article portrayed it.

Agreed.

lowkey said:

kibbles said:

don't know why my previous post didn't go through. anyway....

the main problem with analyst's breakdown is this, the money is already under the control of other people, not the family. tj doesn't call the shots on this money, and neither do the kids. neither does katherine. THE EXECUTORS control the money and will for the forseable future. mj's will says that in the event that the executors cannot fulfill their duties, then a bank will be appointed. the family will NEVER control mj's estate. therefore, is no reason for "somebody" to divide the kids and tjs against the family. those "somebodies" already their hands on the money.

but everybody keep saying they want mike's money, how are they gonna get it? you right they already have the money,the plan is for them to make sure they keep it.some family members seem to have a problem with the men who are currently in control, i didnt see anywhere in that letter where one of the siblings are asking to take over.once everything is cleared up with the debts and probate the money will start going to the beneficiaries, it would make more sense to me for the greedy kids to chill until mommy can hook them up, once she's gone her share goes back to the kids and she cant will her own kids any of mike's money, so what would they gain from 'harming' their mother?

no, they did not say that they want to be in control, but the signatories to that letter don't want these execs in control. what i'm about to post is *my speculation*, but it's based on a pattern that i've already noticed.

in many cases, whenever the execs mention the beneficiaries, while they are clear to include kat as one of them, they also make clear that the kids are the "long-term" beneficiaries. meaning, they are well aware that kat does not stand toe to toe with the kids. while she is supposed to be able to use up to 40% of the trust while she's alive, as the will states, its for "her support and care". therefore, the question becomes, just how generous will the execs be when it comes to allowing her access to that money to spread around to "hook others up" while she's alive?

i say the evidence is clear: they're not going to be. for example, the execs wasted no time in hauling everyone, i mean EVERYONE, who wasn't a beneficiary to mj's will out of that encino house. they may not have opposed kat's motion to the judge to increase her allowance from $26K to $70K (presumably so she could continue to help others), because in the grand scheme of things, that's nothing. what happens when kat starts to ask for MILLIONS? the execs aren't stupid, they know it will be to "gift" her other children while she's alive, while she can still lay claim to the estate.

that's where the shit is going to hit the fan. the execs, not to mention the kids' guardian ad litem, will likely protest kat (and therefore the other jacksons) taking too much out of the estate for "herself" b/c in the long term, that money is also mj3's money. the more money that kat takes, the less there is for them, and perhaps down the road, mj3 has a case to remove the two johns for allowing kat to milk the estate for the benefit of her kids when their father's will clearly left them out.

you see what i'm saying? so that why's these men really have to go, in the jacksons' view. the jacksons want execs put in place that will be loyal to the family as a whole, not just mj and his kids.

I wonder what Michael would think about all this...

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

SoulAlive said:

Janet's been having career problems for awhile now,and this latest stunt won't do her any favors.She really should have stayed out of this fiasco.

That is a bunch of bull. Janet is just trying to protect her Mother.Anybody would act unlike themselves when their Mother is involved. Its nothing wrong with that.The situation had to be very serious for Janet to risk her image to put that lil spoiled brat Paris in check.. Paris has gotten so stuck up since she now knows the power she has.Even though the events that transpired we're wrong. Auntie Janet was the adult here. Not Little miss stuck up Paris..Janet should have put her over her lap & spanked her..The nerve of her to disrespect royalty like that & snatch back her phone & walk away..

Janet's career will be ok & is not dead like this article portrayed it.

Yeah,shame on Paris for fighting back against greedy,shady relatives who are trying to get their hands on her father's money How dare she disrespect these trustworthy,honorable people!

Janet is just trying to protect her mother

by whisking her off somewhere and not letting her have any contact with the outside world? By keeping her from having any contact with the rest of her family? Is that really Janet's way of "helping" her mother? Janet's actions actions caused Katherine to (temporarily) lose custody of her grandkids.

kibbles said:

lowkey said:

but everybody keep saying they want mike's money, how are they gonna get it? you right they already have the money,the plan is for them to make sure they keep it.some family members seem to have a problem with the men who are currently in control, i didnt see anywhere in that letter where one of the siblings are asking to take over.once everything is cleared up with the debts and probate the money will start going to the beneficiaries, it would make more sense to me for the greedy kids to chill until mommy can hook them up, once she's gone her share goes back to the kids and she cant will her own kids any of mike's money, so what would they gain from 'harming' their mother?

no, they did not say that they want to be in control, but the signatories to that letter don't want these execs in control. what i'm about to post is *my speculation*, but it's based on a pattern that i've already noticed.

in many cases, whenever the execs mention the beneficiaries, while they are clear to include kat as one of them, they also make clear that the kids are the "long-term" beneficiaries. meaning, they are well aware that kat does not stand toe to toe with the kids. while she is supposed to be able to use up to 40% of the trust while she's alive, as the will states, its for "her support and care". therefore, the question becomes, just how generous will the execs be when it comes to allowing her access to that money to spread around to "hook others up" while she's alive?

i say the evidence is clear: they're not going to be. for example, the execs wasted no time in hauling everyone, i mean EVERYONE, who wasn't a beneficiary to mj's will out of that encino house. they may not have opposed kat's motion to the judge to increase her allowance from $26K to $70K (presumably so she could continue to help others), because in the grand scheme of things, that's nothing. what happens when kat starts to ask for MILLIONS? the execs aren't stupid, they know it will be to "gift" her other children while she's alive, while she can still lay claim to the estate.

that's where the shit is going to hit the fan. the execs, not to mention the kids' guardian ad litem, will likely protest kat (and therefore the other jacksons) taking too much out of the estate for "herself" b/c in the long term, that money is also mj3's money. the more money that kat takes, the less there is for them, and perhaps down the road, mj3 has a case to remove the two johns for allowing kat to milk the estate for the benefit of her kids when their father's will clearly left them out.

you see what i'm saying? so that why's these men really have to go, in the jacksons' view. the jacksons want execs put in place that will be loyal to the family as a whole, not just mj and his kids.

but why is it ok for these men to determine how much is too much? her son left her 40% of his estate, from my understanding the allowance is for her care while the estate is still in probate, lets say everything gets cleared up next year and there is 100 million available for the beneficiaries, shouldnt that 100 million be split according to mj's wishes, 40% to his mom,40% put away for the kids, and 20% to charity (minus the executors fees)? if mike didnt want his mom sharing with her other kids there would be no need to add that when she passes away she cant will none of her share to anybody it all goes back to the kids.what i take from that is while she's living the 40% is hers to do as she pleases but once she passes it goes to his kids.

SoulAlive said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

That is a bunch of bull. Janet is just trying to protect her Mother.Anybody would act unlike themselves when their Mother is involved. Its nothing wrong with that.The situation had to be very serious for Janet to risk her image to put that lil spoiled brat Paris in check.. Paris has gotten so stuck up since she now knows the power she has.Even though the events that transpired we're wrong. Auntie Janet was the adult here. Not Little miss stuck up Paris..Janet should have put her over her lap & spanked her..The nerve of her to disrespect royalty like that & snatch back her phone & walk away..

Janet's career will be ok & is not dead like this article portrayed it.

Yeah,shame on Paris for fighting back against greedy,shady relatives who are trying to get their hands on her father's money How dare she disrespect these trustworthy,honorable people!

Janet is just trying to protect her mother

by whisking her off somewhere and not letting her have any contact with the outside world? By keeping her from having any contact with the rest of her family? Is that really Janet's way of "helping" her mother? Janet's actions actions caused Katherine to (temporarily) lose custody of her grandkids.

paris is a child,its not her place to 'fight back' at adults. maybe janet dont want her mother to have custody, maybe its getting to much for her. my priorty would be my elderly mom,let tj have them. if trent had those kids calling katherine to stress her out then yes janet had a right to tell them to leave granny alone she's resting.since when did kids words become the gospel truth? dont forget kids have said things about mike that turned out not to be true.katherine said the kids knew she was going away,she left them in care of a responsible adult and instructions whilte she was gone, it seems like between the time she left and the leaking of the letter somebody got in their ear and caused them to react like that.

SoulAlive said:

Just like Michael, Janet couldn't care less about the rest of the family. As long as Mother is situated, that's all that matters...

lowkey said:

SoulAlive said:

Yeah,shame on Paris for fighting back against greedy,shady relatives who are trying to get their hands on her father's money How dare she disrespect these trustworthy,honorable people!

Janet is just trying to protect her mother

by whisking her off somewhere and not letting her have any contact with the outside world? By keeping her from having any contact with the rest of her family? Is that really Janet's way of "helping" her mother? Janet's actions actions caused Katherine to (temporarily) lose custody of her grandkids.

paris is a child,its not her place to 'fight back' at adults. maybe janet dont want her mother to have custody, maybe its getting to much for her. my priorty would be my elderly mom,let tj have them. if trent had those kids calling katherine to stress her out then yes janet had a right to tell them to leave granny alone she's resting.since when did kids words become the gospel truth? dont forget kids have said things about mike that turned out not to be true.katherine said the kids knew she was going away,she left them in care of a responsible adult and instructions whilte she was gone, it seems like between the time she left and the leaking of the letter somebody got in their ear and caused them to react like that.

I think everything would be fine if Janet,Jermaine,Randy and Rebbie would just step away and live their own lives.Let Katherine raise the kids,without these silly distractions and schemes.They were doing just fine until this "scheme" was put into place.It's OK for them to be there for their mother and to help her if she asks for it,but they don't need to interfere the way they did in the last two weeks.That was absurd.

SoulAlive said:

lowkey said:

paris is a child,its not her place to 'fight back' at adults. maybe janet dont want her mother to have custody, maybe its getting to much for her. my priorty would be my elderly mom,let tj have them. if trent had those kids calling katherine to stress her out then yes janet had a right to tell them to leave granny alone she's resting.since when did kids words become the gospel truth? dont forget kids have said things about mike that turned out not to be true.katherine said the kids knew she was going away,she left them in care of a responsible adult and instructions whilte she was gone, it seems like between the time she left and the leaking of the letter somebody got in their ear and caused them to react like that.

I think everything would be fine if Janet,Jermaine,Randy and Rebbie would just step away and live their own lives.Let Katherine raise the kids,without these silly distractions and schemes.They were doing just fine until this "scheme" was put into place.It's OK for them to be there for their mother and to help her if she asks for it,but they don't need to interfere the way they did in the last two weeks.That was absurd.

That's not fair. Katherine is 82 years old. You expect an 82 year old womam to take care of 2 teenagers and a pre-teen with no issues and help? Not going to happen. Her kids are doing the right thing...

lowkey said:

SoulAlive said:

Yeah,shame on Paris for fighting back against greedy,shady relatives who are trying to get their hands on her father's money How dare she disrespect these trustworthy,honorable people!

Janet is just trying to protect her mother

by whisking her off somewhere and not letting her have any contact with the outside world? By keeping her from having any contact with the rest of her family? Is that really Janet's way of "helping" her mother? Janet's actions actions caused Katherine to (temporarily) lose custody of her grandkids.

paris is a child,its not her place to 'fight back' at adults. maybe janet dont want her mother to have custody, maybe its getting to much for her. my priorty would be my elderly mom,let tj have them. if trent had those kids calling katherine to stress her out then yes janet had a right to tell them to leave granny alone she's resting.since when did kids words become the gospel truth? dont forget kids have said things about mike that turned out not to be true.

katherine said the kids knew she was going away,she left them in care of a responsible adult and instructions whilte she was gone, it seems like between the time she left and the leaking of the letter somebody got in their ear and caused them to react like that.

yes it is. when it's your grandmother, your money, and the adults around have tried their best to isolate you and back you into a corner, yes it is your place to fight back. people keep saying that children should respect adults, but that needs to be a two way street. lying, attempted kidnapping (ii'm talking about trying to force the kids to go to arizona. and yes it it kidnapping. taking a child without the permission of the guardian is kidnapping.) and breaking and entering null and voids any and all respect a person deserves.

we're not talking about mike; we're talking about janet randy and jermaine and we have proof to their true colors.

when did she say that? i remember her saying that she left them with a cook but i don't remember anthing else.

btw, what was taking them to arizona supposed to accomplish? getting them out of the L.A. legal jurisdiction? how would that help them get control of the will?

[Edited 7/28/12 14:51pm]

Im sure that that 82 year old woman has plenty of staff to help raise those kids shes not doing it alone.

ViintageJunkiie said:

SoulAlive said:

I think everything would be fine if Janet,Jermaine,Randy and Rebbie would just step away and live their own lives.Let Katherine raise the kids,without these silly distractions and schemes.They were doing just fine until this "scheme" was put into place.It's OK for them to be there for their mother and to help her if she asks for it,but they don't need to interfere the way they did in the last two weeks.That was absurd.

That's not fair. Katherine is 82 years old. You expect an 82 year old womam to take care of 2 teenagers and a pre-teen with no issues and help? Not going to happen. Her kids are doing the right thing...

Like someone pointed out,Katherine was never raising these children "on her own".She has assistants,a cook,a nanny or two.The household has an entire staff,including security.And now that she is sharing custody with someone else,she will be just fine.

isobelfq said:

SoulAlive said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

That is a bunch of bull. Janet is just trying to protect her Mother.Anybody would act unlike themselves when their Mother is involved. Its nothing wrong with that.The situation had to be very serious for Janet to risk her image to put that lil spoiled brat Paris in check.. Paris has gotten so stuck up since she now knows the power she has.Even though the events that transpired we're wrong. Auntie Janet was the adult here. Not Little miss stuck up Paris..Janet should have put her over her lap & spanked her..The nerve of her to disrespect royalty like that & snatch back her phone & walk away..

Janet's career will be ok & is not dead like this article portrayed it.

Yeah,shame on Paris for fighting back against greedy,shady relatives who are trying to get their hands on her father's money How dare she disrespect these trustworthy,honorable people!

Janet is just trying to protect her mother

by whisking her off somewhere and not letting her have any contact with the outside world? By keeping her from having any contact with the rest of her family? Is that really Janet's way of "helping" her mother? Janet's actions actions caused Katherine to (temporarily) lose custody of her grandkids.

Janet didn't whisk her off anywhere. Kate's lookalike daughter Rebbie did. Stop putting the blame on her.Paris is not over the estate & won't be until she is well into her adult years. She has no say so only barely who she wants to be her guardian. She is too young to be acting like that & disrespecting Auntie Janet like that. The estate is being well taken care of. Paris just needs to go to school continue playing football & be the actress that she so desperately wants to be like her very successful Auntie Jan.

Kate didn't lose custody. She will share it now with TJ. Which is really better that way anyway. She will still get what MJ wanted(His Mother taken care of very well the rest of her life boo boo)...

[Edited 7/28/12 16:26pm]

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

lazycrockett said:

Im sure that that 82 year old woman has plenty of staff to help raise those kids shes not doing it alone.

right!

and i was just thinking if this great womancan rule a country at 86yrs old.

then this wonderful 82yr old woman can still be sound of mind and in still be in charge of her grandchildren.

SoulAlive said:

a person would have to be blind not to see what the Jacksons are doing.The main villians in this scheme (Jermaine and Randy) are broke-ass mofos who can't even afford their child support payments.So,when they read in the media that their dead brothers' estate has paid off all its debts and is now worth a staggering billion dollars (and counting),you get a clear idea why they're doing this.They're anxious and hungry.Make no mistake,this is all about MONEY.This ain't about family protecting family,it's about over-turning the will so that *other members* can get a share.

Look at how the events played out.The main villians (Jermaine,Randy,Janet and Rebbie) whisked their mother away to Arizona,took away her cellphone and made sure she had no contact with other family members.Anyone who wasn't a part of their "scheme" wouldn't be able to communicate with Katherine.In her absence,they sent out that ridiculous letter to the media,wouldn't allow the grandkids to communicate with their own guardian,and pulled that ridiculous driveway stunt,trying to steal Paris' cellphone.Once again,they wanted to cut off someone's ability to communicate with the outside world.It worked with Katherine only because she is old and too trusting.But thankfully,the children fought back.

It'll be interesting to see how the rest of this scandal plays out,but as of right now,it's easy to see what's going on here.

You got everything right. A person would have to be totally brain-dead to see all of these events that have occured and not see that Janet and Co. are at fault. Janet was so arrogant and sure of herself that she could fool her fans(which she has) and the public(which she hasn't) and the media(which she hasn't) with her TOTAL involvement in this farce. Janet just knew that she could BULLY those kids, take away their cell phones, take them away somewhere and that they would fall for her shit. What she never anticipated was the maturity, intelligence and strength of Michael Jackson, her OWN brother, kids. These children are not stupid. They have been aware of Janet and her family;s intention all of the time. The sad thing is you have stans who are actually defending Janet when they know that she is wrong. The ONLY reason that Janet was trying to snatch Paris' cell phone was to STOP HER FROM COMMUNICATING TO THE WORLD about what the Jackson Four(Janet, Jermaine, Rebbie and Randy) were doing. It has crap to do with "respect your aunt". THIS aunt did NOT deserve respect because she is the perpetrator of this mess.

I am bursting with pride how two CHILDREN exposed the deceitfulness of their ADULT aunts and uncles. The fact that these children's concern with their grandmother's health and whereabouts triggered the whole thing. These kids cared more about their grandmother than Janet and Co. cared about their own mother. The fact that Janet and her siblings actually USED their own mother in this fiasco is beyond reprehensible. I can't believe or understand why any sane person would defend Janet and her siblings after what they did to Katherine. These people INTENTIONALLY used deception and manipulation to isolate their mother from her own grandkids in an attempt to keep her from knowing about the letter and to keep her grandkids from telling their grandmother what was happening. What NORMAL person would do what Janet, Rebbie, Randy and Jermaine did? For the detractors who are trying to put all of the blame on a child, Paris; Paris was not the one who came up with this elaborate scam-Janet and Co. did. Paris was not the one who released a letter to a tabloid with the LIE that Katherine had a "mini-stroke"-Janet and Co. did.

Any fall-out belongs at the feet of Janet and Co. I have nothing but scorn for anyone who would do what Janet and her siblings did. Seriously, this type of deception is "mafia-like". This is the type of thing that one would expect in a movie, not the Jackson Family; although, they are known for their jealousy, greed and pathetic behaviors. I am not a Janet Jackson Fan; however, even I never thought that she would STOOP to the bottom of the pit. Even the ultimate Janet stan should sit back and think about what this woman is involved in: deception to keep her mother away from three MINOR children with NO commuication; signing and authoring a letter with the lie that her mother had recently had a "minor stroke"; trying to FORCE a child to stop communicating to the world about that child's concern for her GrandParent; and trying to FORCIBLY take away a child's only way of communication to anyone. Deception, Lies, Manipulation, Cover-Up.

lazycrockett said:

Im sure that that 82 year old woman has plenty of staff to help raise those kids shes not doing it alone.

Thank You. These stans and Jackson Family defenders act as if Katherine lives in a shack somewhere in the wilderness with only herself and the children. Katherine has PLENTY of staff(Michael's estate pays for that now as he did when he was alive) to help her. Katherine has said many, many times(just recently in an Oprah interview) that Paris, Prince and Blanket are VERY GOOD kids who are mannerable, get good grades,etc. Michael did a great job RAISING them. Katherine is there only for love and guidance. Michael already instilled in them values and morals. Therefore, all of this BULLSHIT about Janet trying to help her mother is pure crap. If Katherine is stressed, it has nothing to do with those kids and everything to do with dead-beat children trying to get her son's money. If Katherine is stressed it has to do with the lawsuit that SHE filed against AEG for $$$$. Janet's involvement is very telling that either she doesn't have as much money as people think or that she is scared shitless that her deadbeat family is going to suck her dry as they did Michael. Either way, she is heartless and calculation to use her mother and Michael's children in her and her siblings scheme. I am so sick of cowards blaming these innocent kids for what Janet, Randy, Jermaine and Rebbie fucked up.If anything happens to Katherine, I am going to put the FULL BLAME on these people because they are the ones who started this mess, not Michael's children.

[Edited 7/28/12 17:22pm]

Free2BMe said:

CynicKill said:

mjscarousal said:

Janet showed her true colors after Michael passed when she did all those interviews throwing him under bus and making false assumptions. From then on I realize that she isnt all innocent like the media and her fans like to portray and she is shady.

The reason why Janet got involved because she do not what her greedy brothers to go after her money like they went after Michaels all these years. She rather them steal her brothers money For Janet, this is not about money, this is about sustaining the money she already has from her family cause trust me she dont give a damn about the kids or the family. She just wants to live her life and not be bothered. She hasnt been bothered for decades and now all of a sudden wanna believe she cares about her brothers estate? SURE. She cares about the bros getting off her ass and them getting Michaels money before Katherine passes...

Speculation, speculation and speculation!

Naive, naive, naive

mjscarousal said:

SoulAlive said:

Janet was foolish to get involved in this scheme.She should have stayed in Italy with her boyfriend.She has her own money anyway! I don't know why she allowed herself to be suckered into this ridiculous scheme,which now makes her look bad.Her hands are just as dirty as theirs.

Janet showed her true colors after Michael passed when she did all those interviews throwing him under bus and making false assumptions. From then on I realize that she isnt all innocent like the media and her fans like to portray and she is shady.

The reason why Janet got involved because she do not what her greedy brothers to go after her money like they went after Michaels all these years. She rather them steal her brothers money For Janet, this is not about money, this is about sustaining the money she already has from her family cause trust me she dont give a damn about the kids or the family. She just wants to live her life and not be bothered. She hasnt been bothered for decades and now all of a sudden wanna believe she cares about her brothers estate? SURE. She cares about the bros getting off her ass and them getting Michaels money before Katherine passes...

Correct.

lowkey said:

lmao the mj fanbase has hated janet's guts for years now, i dont think she was depending on their support for any future projects. non mj fans think janet should have whupped paris ass. some of you guys need to get laid, yall are a little to excited over this.

From my observation, most are disgsuted by the whole thing and are juat baffled as to why Janet was involved. None of this makes sense to them. Outside of Janet fans, I don't see anyone saying yeah, this is something she should have done.

As for the kids, I see so many folks giving them props for standing up to their shady relatives. Like me, they find it refreshing that a Jackson has some spunk. These teens owned their grown ass relatives. That's hilarious.

As for Janet's career, again like me, most of the public doesn't seem to be that aware of what she's doing these days, so imo, it sucks that something like this happened. Don't want to say her career is dead, but no way this hasn't killed the "normal one" image.

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free2bfreeda said:

lazycrockett said:

Im sure that that 82 year old woman has plenty of staff to help raise those kids shes not doing it alone.

right!

and i was just thinking if this great womancan rule a country at 86yrs old.

then this wonderful 82yr old woman can still be sound of mind and in still be in charge of her grandchildren.

She doesn't rule any country.

She is the head of state of the Commonwealth (15 countries) but she has no power or responsibilites other than to look pretty.

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