SEANMAN said:

Anyone who has a problem with the way Janet Jackson is doing things in HER OWN family (i.e., outsiders looking in and passing judgement on things they don't have one iota of a fucking clue about except what the media is feeding them) can kiss her honey-brown, aerobicized, $150 million ass. End scene.

The gloves do not work with that outfit. "...just sayin'."

NaughtyKitty said:

Jackson judge orders probe into children's welfare

By ANTHONY McCARTNEY, AP Entertainment Writer – 4 minutes ago

LOS ANGELES (AP) — The judge overseeing the guardianship of Michael Jackson's children wants an independent investigation into their well-being.

Superior Court Judge Mitchell Beckloff ordered an investigator to interview the three children independently and prepare a report that will be reviewed solely by him.

The order comes after nearly a week of turmoil in the Jackson family, including a driveway dispute between relatives on Monday and the absence and return of their grandmother this week.

The children range in ages from 10 to 15.

Beckloff ordered that the investigator have direct access to the children and authorized interviews to be conducted with them at their school.

http://www.google.com/hos...262d8ceb7a

Good decision by the Judge

[Edited 7/27/12 10:33am]

Exactly!!!

Randy Jackson

The Estate Is Trying To Kill My Mother

[img:$uid]http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/07/25/0725-randy-jackson-tmz-2.jpg[/img:$uid]

Randy Jackson believes the executors of the Michael Jackson Estate are conspiring to KILL Katherine Jackson.

Randy made the allegation in an emotional Twitter rant moments ago ... saying, "It is my fear and belief, that they are trying to take my mother’s life."

In the rant, Jackson states his case as to why he believes the MJ Estate is evil ... claiming they are trying to isolate Katherine "just like they did to Michael, in order to propagate their lies, financial agendas and to protect a fraudulent will."

Jackson continues, "It is clear that anyone who stands up against the Executors of the Estate - John Branca, John McClain and their attorney Howard Weitzman - is denied access to my mother."

Randy also says the Estate blocked Janet, Rebbie and Jermaine from the family home in Calabasas, CA ... where Michael's kids live with Katherine.

Free2BMe said:

free2bfreeda said:

abc

Katherine Jackson Meets With Attorney Over Child Custody Battle

By ANTHONY McCARTNEY 07/27/12 12:59 PM ET

http://www.huffingtonpost...10146.html

LOS ANGELES — Michael Jackson's mother will share guardianship of the pop superstar's three children with Tito Jackson's son in a deal that will relieve her of some of the day-to-day stresses of managing a famous family, her attorney said Friday.

The decision was made after a meeting between Katherine Jackson and her lawyer Perry Sanders Jr. on Thursday. He said Michael Jackson's eldest son has told attorneys he approves of the arrangement.

The proposed arrangement could be presented to a judge next week. If approved, it would make Tito Joe "TJ" Jackson a co-guardian of the children – Prince, Paris and Blanket – who range in ages from 10 to 15.

"Mrs. Jackson is extremely pleased with the prospect of enjoying the pleasure of raising Michael's children without the day-to-day tedium of items such as managing the large staff that goes with such a high-profile family and focus her attention on being a grandmother and raising Michael's children," Sanders wrote in a statement.

"She is eager to simply enjoy her great relationship with these children, while deeding over some of the stressors that go hand in hand with being a guardian," he wrote.

A judge on Wednesday suspended Katherine Jackson's guardianship duties temporarily and appointed TJ Jackson as temporary guardian. He was expected to file a petition on Friday to become the children's permanent guardian, but Sanders said that is a formality meant to abide by court orders.

The agreement came after days of turmoil in the Jackson family, including questions about Katherine Jackson's health and whereabouts.

Superior Court Judge Mitchell Beckloff said there were no indications the 82-year-old had done anything wrong, and he would likely re-instate her as guardian upon her return.

Katherine Jackson had been at a Tucson, Ariz., spa since July 15 with her daughter Rebbie and other relatives and had not spoken to her grandchildren during that time.

i really hope the siblings raise the bar and let dignity instead of silly squabbling rule their next moves.

Sorry, I may be in the minority in this: however, I don't think that it is fair that TJ does all the work while Katherine sits around and COLLECTS the money. IMO, that is the ONLY thing that she was worried about and that is that she was losing her money. Her not calling her grandchildren for TEN days shows me that she didn't give a damn about them. I don't give her a pass, just because she is 82 years old. She knew what she was doing and went along with it. I hope these kids keep their eyes open and not be surprised when they find out that she was a part of this deception, also. I pray that I am wrong for the sake of Michael's children.

TJ should receive funds from the estate in support of the children. And perhaps a little something for himself; he may be taking time away from other pursuits that would normally bring money in for his family so that he can care for the children. And Ms. Katherine, no matter what has recently gone down, should continue to receive all monies and perks - we all know Michael wanted her cared for.

SEANMAN said:

Anyone who has a problem with the way Janet Jackson is doing things in HER OWN family (i.e., outsiders looking in and passing judgement on things they don't have one iota of a fucking clue about except what the media is feeding them) can kiss her honey-brown, aerobicized, $150 million ass. End scene.

i'm sorry, seanman, but when janet and co. post a letter at a website, publically accusing men of heinous acts, then she set herself up for "problems" from outsiders. she put herself out there to receive the comments she's getting, good, bad or indifferent. she could have retained a lawyer, and asked that their letter or complaints be filed under seal in a motion to judge beckoloff. then, this wouldn't be an issue as no one would have likely known about it. interesting that they complained about the estate and aeg doing just this. it's really ironic, if you think about it.

i'm just saying, i know you're her fan, but ms. jackson made her own bed, and it will likely get worse before it gets better.

musicjunky318 said:

Randy Jackson RAZ B:

The Estate Is Trying To Kill My Mother

[img:$uid]http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/07/25/0725-randy-jackson-tmz-2.jpg[/img:$uid]

Randy RAZ B Jackson believes the executors of the Michael Jackson Estate are conspiring to KILL Katherine Jackson.

Randy RAZ B Jackson made the allegation in an emotional Twitter rant moments ago ... saying, "It is my fear and belief, that they are trying to take my mother’s life."

In the rant, Jackson states his case as to why he believes the MJ Estate is evil ... claiming they are trying to isolate Katherine "just like they did to Michael, in order to propagate their lies, financial agendas and to protect a fraudulent will."

Jackson continues, "It is clear that anyone who stands up against the Executors of the Estate - John Branca, John McClain and their attorney Howard Weitzman - is denied access to my mother."

Randy RAZ B Jackson also says the Estate blocked Janet, Rebbie and Jermaine from the family home in Calabasas, CA ... where Michael's kids live with Katherine.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/0...ullwrapper

allsmutaside said:

musicjunky318 said:

Randy Jackson RAZ B:

The Estate Is Trying To Kill My Mother

[img:$uid]http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/07/25/0725-randy-jackson-tmz-2.jpg[/img:$uid]

Randy RAZ B Jackson believes the executors of the Michael Jackson Estate are conspiring to KILL Katherine Jackson.

Randy RAZ B Jackson made the allegation in an emotional Twitter rant moments ago ... saying, "It is my fear and belief, that they are trying to take my mother’s life."

In the rant, Jackson states his case as to why he believes the MJ Estate is evil ... claiming they are trying to isolate Katherine "just like they did to Michael, in order to propagate their lies, financial agendas and to protect a fraudulent will."

Jackson continues, "It is clear that anyone who stands up against the Executors of the Estate - John Branca, John McClain and their attorney Howard Weitzman - is denied access to my mother."

Randy RAZ B Jackson also says the Estate blocked Janet, Rebbie and Jermaine from the family home in Calabasas, CA ... where Michael's kids live with Katherine.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/0...ullwrapper

musicjunky318 said:

Randy Jackson

The Estate Is Trying To Kill My Mother

[img:$uid]http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/07/25/0725-randy-jackson-tmz-2.jpg[/img:$uid]

Randy Jackson believes the executors of the Michael Jackson Estate are conspiring to KILL Katherine Jackson.

Randy made the allegation in an emotional Twitter rant moments ago ... saying, "It is my fear and belief, that they are trying to take my mother’s life."

In the rant, Jackson states his case as to why he believes the MJ Estate is evil ... claiming they are trying to isolate Katherine "just like they did to Michael, in order to propagate their lies, financial agendas and to protect a fraudulent will."

Jackson continues, "It is clear that anyone who stands up against the Executors of the Estate - John Branca, John McClain and their attorney Howard Weitzman - is denied access to my mother."

Randy also says the Estate blocked Janet, Rebbie and Jermaine from the family home in Calabasas, CA ... where Michael's kids live with Katherine.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/0...ullwrapper

Randy needs to be put in a mental institution. This mad man is NOW blaming the fiasco the he, Janet, Rebbie, Jermaine insitigated on the estate and saying that the estate is denying THEM access to their mother? Can it get any worse for these people? Their plan has backfired and they are going crazy. They have no one to blame but themselves. MONEY and GREED makes some people do crazy things and this is what is happening to Randy.

SEANMAN said:

Anyone who has a problem with the way Janet Jackson is doing things in HER OWN family (i.e., outsiders looking in and passing judgement on things they don't have one iota of a fucking clue about except what the media is feeding them) can kiss her honey-brown, aerobicized, $150 million ass. End scene.

:

Pick me, Pick me!!!! I'm an outsider that would love to look in! Pick me! Let me stop before I gross you all out for real

That was probably my favorite pic from that calendar btw. Carry On....

allsmutaside said:

SEANMAN said:

Anyone who has a problem with the way Janet Jackson is doing things in HER OWN family (i.e., outsiders looking in and passing judgement on things they don't have one iota of a fucking clue about except what the media is feeding them) can kiss her honey-brown, aerobicized, $150 million ass. End scene.

The gloves do not work with that outfit. "...just sayin'."

SEANMAN - just playin'; didn't mean to offend and sorry if i did.

Free2BMe said:

free2bfreeda said:

abc

Katherine Jackson Meets With Attorney Over Child Custody Battle

By ANTHONY McCARTNEY 07/27/12 12:59 PM ET

http://www.huffingtonpost...10146.html

Sorry, I may be in the minority in this: however, I don't think that it is fair that TJ does all the work while Katherine sits around and COLLECTS the money. IMO, that is the ONLY thing that she was worried about and that is that she was losing her money. Her not calling her grandchildren for TEN days shows me that she didn't give a damn about them. I don't give her a pass, just because she is 82 years old. She knew what she was doing and went along with it. I hope these kids keep their eyes open and not be surprised when they find out that she was a part of this deception, also. I pray that I am wrong for the sake of Michael's children.

no you're not in the minorty; i wondered about that in my previous post.

that's just sanders trying to put a brave spin on this. i don't think there is anyway in HELL the judge is going for a scheme this transparent. remember, this is just their proposal to the judge. he hasn't ruled on this "agreement" between tj and katherine. if katherine is admitting she's not up to the day-to-day job of being a guardian, why in fuck's sake does she believe she should be in charge of the kids' money? (it's a rhetorical question 'cause we all know why she needs to control their purse strings. don't forget about the sheriff dept's ongoing investigation into whether she is being taken advantage of financially.)

as to your last part, i don't think there's any doubt that she is fully aware of the plot by now. when that sheriff showed up, she knew. she probably knew days before that as i'm sure rebbie went to work on her once she was finally able to get her alone. and remember the cryptic remarks in the video; she was pointing her finger at the execs, too.

allsmutaside said:

SEANMAN said:

Anyone who has a problem with the way Janet Jackson is doing things in HER OWN family (i.e., outsiders looking in and passing judgement on things they don't have one iota of a fucking clue about except what the media is feeding them) can kiss her honey-brown, aerobicized, $150 million ass. End scene.

The gloves do not work with that outfit. "...just sayin'."

It is so sad, patheitic AND predictable that Janet stans'only defense to her fucking up is to deflect by using her looks d half-naked photos to EXCUSE what she has done. Of course, what else can they do. She was caught red-handed.

musicjunky318 said:

Randy Jackson

The Estate Is Trying To Kill My Mother

[img:$uid]http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/07/25/0725-randy-jackson-tmz-2.jpg[/img:$uid]

Randy Jackson believes the executors of the Michael Jackson Estate are conspiring to KILL Katherine Jackson.

Randy made the allegation in an emotional Twitter rant moments ago ... saying, "It is my fear and belief, that they are trying to take my mother’s life."

In the rant, Jackson states his case as to why he believes the MJ Estate is evil ... claiming they are trying to isolate Katherine "just like they did to Michael, in order to propagate their lies, financial agendas and to protect a fraudulent will."

Jackson continues, "It is clear that anyone who stands up against the Executors of the Estate - John Branca, John McClain and their attorney Howard Weitzman - is denied access to my mother."

Randy also says the Estate blocked Janet, Rebbie and Jermaine from the family home in Calabasas, CA ... where Michael's kids live with Katherine.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/0...ullwrapper

He needs professional

the MJ Estate is evil ... claiming they are trying to isolate Katherine "just like they did to Michael, in order to propagate their lies, financial agendas and to protect a fraudulent will."

Errrmmm, the MJ Estate tried to isolate Michael? When? Before or after he died? I dont see how his estate could possibly isolate Michael after June 25 2009....But If before then why not say and try to do something about it then?

[Edited 7/27/12 12:31pm]

allsmutaside said:

allsmutaside said:

The gloves do not work with that outfit. "...just sayin'."

SEANMAN - just playin'; didn't mean to offend and sorry if i did.

No offense. They are a bit odd with a two-piece.

LOL @ Musicslave

Free2BMe, you can be first in line for that kiss I mentioned earlier.

KATHERINE JACKSON CASE
Judge Orders Investigator
To Interview Children

The judge in the Katherine Jackson case needs help deciding to whom he should award permanent guardianship of MJ's children -- so he's ordered an independent investigator to interview the kids ... and report back asap.

According to court documents, obtained by TMZ, Judge Mitchell Beckloffhas ordered a probate court investigator named Cary Ornelas to "prepare an investigation report addressing the status of the minor children and their currently suspended guardian, Katherine Jackson."

According to the court order, Ornelas has been authorized to interview the Jackson children at their school ... without notice.

Once completed, Ornelas' report will be submitted to the judge ... for his eyes only.

Michael Jackson's nephew TJ Jackson is currently the kids' temporary guardian, and he has already filed documents asking to make the guardianship permanent.

For her part -- Katherine says she has reached an agreement with TJ under which they will SPLIT guardianship of the kids.

I'm liking this judge He knows what he's doing and what he's up against.

10:50AM PT TJ just filed his petition for permanent guardianship ... and TMZ obtained a copy.

allsmutaside said:

musicjunky318 said:

Randy Jackson RAZ B:

The Estate Is Trying To Kill My Mother

[img:$uid]http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/07/25/0725-randy-jackson-tmz-2.jpg[/img:$uid]

Randy RAZ B Jackson believes the executors of the Michael Jackson Estate are conspiring to KILL Katherine Jackson.

Randy RAZ B Jackson made the allegation in an emotional Twitter rant moments ago ... saying, "It is my fear and belief, that they are trying to take my mother’s life."

In the rant, Jackson states his case as to why he believes the MJ Estate is evil ... claiming they are trying to isolate Katherine "just like they did to Michael, in order to propagate their lies, financial agendas and to protect a fraudulent will."

Jackson continues, "It is clear that anyone who stands up against the Executors of the Estate - John Branca, John McClain and their attorney Howard Weitzman - is denied access to my mother."

Randy RAZ B Jackson also says the Estate blocked Janet, Rebbie and Jermaine from the family home in Calabasas, CA ... where Michael's kids live with Katherine.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/0...ullwrapper

Take the wheel, Jesus H. Christ!

[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Harlepolis/Gifs/2yz0enqjpg.gif[/img:$uid]

Take all your big plans and break them Jermaine, Randy, and Janet. Looks like TJ is trying to do right by the kids. SO glad The Judge ordered an investigation and interviews with the kids. Two thumbs way up for that move!

NaughtyKitty said:

10:50AM PT TJ just filed his petition for permanent guardianship ... and TMZ obtained a copy.

NaughtyKitty said:

musicjunky318 said:

Randy Jackson

The Estate Is Trying To Kill My Mother

[img:$uid]http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/07/25/0725-randy-jackson-tmz-2.jpg[/img:$uid]

Randy Jackson believes the executors of the Michael Jackson Estate are conspiring to KILL Katherine Jackson.

Randy made the allegation in an emotional Twitter rant moments ago ... saying, "It is my fear and belief, that they are trying to take my mother’s life."

In the rant, Jackson states his case as to why he believes the MJ Estate is evil ... claiming they are trying to isolate Katherine "just like they did to Michael, in order to propagate their lies, financial agendas and to protect a fraudulent will."

Jackson continues, "It is clear that anyone who stands up against the Executors of the Estate - John Branca, John McClain and their attorney Howard Weitzman - is denied access to my mother."

Randy also says the Estate blocked Janet, Rebbie and Jermaine from the family home in Calabasas, CA ... where Michael's kids live with Katherine.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/0...ullwrapper

He needs professional

the MJ Estate is evil ... claiming they are trying to isolate Katherine "just like they did to Michael, in order to propagate their lies, financial agendas and to protect a fraudulent will."

Errrmmm, the MJ Estate tried to isolate Michael? When? Before or after he died? I dont see how his estate could possibly isolate Michael after June 25 2009....But If before then why not say and try to do something about it then?

[Edited 7/27/12 12:31pm]

I'm not saying it's the case here but it's not unimagineable to beleive that people in Michael's camp poisoned him against his family when he was alive, hence the isolation.

I'm not as devoted (ferally obsessed) as his fans but I don't recall Michael ever publicly lambasting the family sans Joe, whom he credibly stated that Joe was pretty much a tyrant during their upbringing. Even black sheep LaToya I've never heard him say a bad thing about even after the debacle with her marriage. Not to say that they were close (as someone pointed out to me they are rumored to be estranged as far back as '94). But that runs counter to LaToya's claims that they were close.

LaToya seems like the kind of person who can keep a secret when she wants to and not when it's good for publicity. Having a secret relationship with Michael (especially if he has people in his camp poisoning the family to him) SEEMS plausible.

But there are a lot of loose ends. And if the will wasn't even signed by Michael (he wasn't in LA when he allegedly signed) then there's real problems. I wouldn't trust a lawyer as far as I could throw one.

Harlepolis said:

allsmutaside said:

Take the wheel, Jesus H. Christ!

[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Harlepolis/Gifs/2yz0enqjpg.gif[/img:$uid]

According to the documents for permanent guardianship filed by TJ, Blanket's full name is listed as Prince Michael Jackson II. I wonder if the family calls him by that name or Prince or Prince Michael, or just Blanket. Also lists his birthday as 1/21/2002 but I thought his birtday was in February? And Debbie Rowe is named as his mother.

Harlepolis said:

allsmutaside said:

Take the wheel, Jesus H. Christ!

[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Harlepolis/Gifs/2yz0enqjpg.gif[/img:$uid]

[Edited 7/27/12 12:53pm]

CynicKill said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Errrmmm, the MJ Estate tried to isolate Michael? When? Before or after he died? I dont see how his estate could possibly isolate Michael after June 25 2009....But If before then why not say and try to do something about it then?

[Edited 7/27/12 12:31pm]

I'm not saying it's the case here but it's not unimagineable to beleive that people in Michael's camp poisoned him against his family when he was alive, hence the isolation.

I'm not as devoted (ferally obsessed) as his fans but I don't recall Michael ever publicly lambasting the family sans Joe, whom he credibly stated that Joe was pretty much a tyrant during their upbringing. Even black sheep LaToya I've never heard him say a bad thing about even after the debacle with her marriage. Not to say that they were close (as someone pointed out to me they are rumored to be estranged as far back as '94). But that runs counter to LaToya's claims that they were close.

LaToya seems like the kind of person who can keep a secret when she wants to and not when it's good for publicity. Having a secret relationship with Michael (especially if he has people in his camp poisoning the family to him) SEEMS plausible.

But there are a lot of loose ends. And if the will wasn't even signed by Michael (he wasn't in LA when he allegedly signed) then there's real problems. I wouldn't trust a lawyer as far as I could throw one.

Let's say Michael wasn't in LA but in NY as certain family members and video suggest, who's to say that Michael didn't fax or efax a signed copy back to the attorney's office in LA from NY? Are the two John's claiming that Michael was in LA with them for signatures?

CynicKill said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Errrmmm, the MJ Estate tried to isolate Michael? When? Before or after he died? I dont see how his estate could possibly isolate Michael after June 25 2009....But If before then why not say and try to do something about it then?

[Edited 7/27/12 12:31pm]

I'm not saying it's the case here but it's not unimagineable to beleive that people in Michael's camp poisoned him against his family when he was alive, hence the isolation.

I'm not as devoted (ferally obsessed) as his fans but I don't recall Michael ever publicly lambasting the family sans Joe, whom he credibly stated that Joe was pretty much a tyrant during their upbringing. Even black sheep LaToya I've never heard him say a bad thing about even after the debacle with her marriage. Not to say that they were close (as someone pointed out to me they are rumored to be estranged as far back as '94). But that runs counter to LaToya's claims that they were close.

LaToya seems like the kind of person who can keep a secret when she wants to and not when it's good for publicity. Having a secret relationship with Michael (especially if he has people in his camp poisoning the family to him) SEEMS plausible.

But there are a lot of loose ends. And if the will wasn't even signed by Michael (he wasn't in LA when he allegedly signed) then there's real problems. I wouldn't trust a lawyer as far as I could throw one.

I think the only thing Michael ever said negatively about LaToya is something along the lines of "My sister is an idiot" when she went on her public spiel about his being a "molester".

" But there are a lot of loose ends. And if the will wasn't even signed by Michael (he wasn't in LA when he allegedly signed) then there's real problems. I wouldn't trust a lawyer as far as I could throw one."

I agree. Michael was in Harlem on the day that the executors specifically said that he was IN L.A. to sign the will. Something's rotten in the state of Denmark.

[Edited 7/27/12 12:56pm]

Musicslave said:

CynicKill said:

I'm not saying it's the case here but it's not unimagineable to beleive that people in Michael's camp poisoned him against his family when he was alive, hence the isolation.

I'm not as devoted (ferally obsessed) as his fans but I don't recall Michael ever publicly lambasting the family sans Joe, whom he credibly stated that Joe was pretty much a tyrant during their upbringing. Even black sheep LaToya I've never heard him say a bad thing about even after the debacle with her marriage. Not to say that they were close (as someone pointed out to me they are rumored to be estranged as far back as '94). But that runs counter to LaToya's claims that they were close.

LaToya seems like the kind of person who can keep a secret when she wants to and not when it's good for publicity. Having a secret relationship with Michael (especially if he has people in his camp poisoning the family to him) SEEMS plausible.

But there are a lot of loose ends. And if the will wasn't even signed by Michael (he wasn't in LA when he allegedly signed) then there's real problems. I wouldn't trust a lawyer as far as I could throw one.

Let's say Michael wasn't in LA but in NY as certain family members and video suggest, who's to say that Michael didn't fax or efax a signed copy back to the attorney's office in LA from NY? Are the two John's claiming that Michael was in LA with them for signatures?

From my limited insight, I think that the will was examined and challenged already, and determined valid by a court of law. It would seem to me that if there were any new/addtional evidence regarding fraud worthy of consideration a court of law would entertain it.

SEANMAN said:

CynicKill said:

I'm not saying it's the case here but it's not unimagineable to beleive that people in Michael's camp poisoned him against his family when he was alive, hence the isolation.

I'm not as devoted (ferally obsessed) as his fans but I don't recall Michael ever publicly lambasting the family sans Joe, whom he credibly stated that Joe was pretty much a tyrant during their upbringing. Even black sheep LaToya I've never heard him say a bad thing about even after the debacle with her marriage. Not to say that they were close (as someone pointed out to me they are rumored to be estranged as far back as '94). But that runs counter to LaToya's claims that they were close.

LaToya seems like the kind of person who can keep a secret when she wants to and not when it's good for publicity. Having a secret relationship with Michael (especially if he has people in his camp poisoning the family to him) SEEMS plausible.

But there are a lot of loose ends. And if the will wasn't even signed by Michael (he wasn't in LA when he allegedly signed) then there's real problems. I wouldn't trust a lawyer as far as I could throw one.

I think the only thing Michael ever said negatively about LaToya is something along the lines of "My sister is an idiot" when she went on her public spiel about his being a "molester".

" But there are a lot of loose ends. And if the will wasn't even signed by Michael (he wasn't in LA when he allegedly signed) then there's real problems. I wouldn't trust a lawyer as far as I could throw one."

I agree. Michael was in Harlem on the day that the executors specifically said that he was IN L.A. to sign the will. Something's rotten in the state of Denmark.

[Edited 7/27/12 12:56pm]

Do we know the time of day he was in Harlem and the time of day the executors say he was in LA for signatures? Granted, one person can't be in two places "at the same damn time" (I see ya Future) but one person can finalize a will earlier in that said day and fly out to NY to get his protest on with Al Sharpton later that same day

Free2BMe said:

free2bfreeda said:

abc

Katherine Jackson Meets With Attorney Over Child Custody Battle

By ANTHONY McCARTNEY 07/27/12 12:59 PM ET

http://www.huffingtonpost...10146.html

LOS ANGELES — Michael Jackson's mother will share guardianship of the pop superstar's three children with Tito Jackson's son in a deal that will relieve her of some of the day-to-day stresses of managing a famous family, her attorney said Friday.

The decision was made after a meeting between Katherine Jackson and her lawyer Perry Sanders Jr. on Thursday. He said Michael Jackson's eldest son has told attorneys he approves of the arrangement.

The proposed arrangement could be presented to a judge next week. If approved, it would make Tito Joe "TJ" Jackson a co-guardian of the children – Prince, Paris and Blanket – who range in ages from 10 to 15.

"Mrs. Jackson is extremely pleased with the prospect of enjoying the pleasure of raising Michael's children without the day-to-day tedium of items such as managing the large staff that goes with such a high-profile family and focus her attention on being a grandmother and raising Michael's children," Sanders wrote in a statement.

"She is eager to simply enjoy her great relationship with these children, while deeding over some of the stressors that go hand in hand with being a guardian," he wrote.

A judge on Wednesday suspended Katherine Jackson's guardianship duties temporarily and appointed TJ Jackson as temporary guardian. He was expected to file a petition on Friday to become the children's permanent guardian, but Sanders said that is a formality meant to abide by court orders.

The agreement came after days of turmoil in the Jackson family, including questions about Katherine Jackson's health and whereabouts.

Superior Court Judge Mitchell Beckloff said there were no indications the 82-year-old had done anything wrong, and he would likely re-instate her as guardian upon her return.

Katherine Jackson had been at a Tucson, Ariz., spa since July 15 with her daughter Rebbie and other relatives and had not spoken to her grandchildren during that time.

i really hope the siblings raise the bar and let dignity instead of silly squabbling rule their next moves.

Sorry, I may be in the minority in this: however, I don't think that it is fair that TJ does all the work while Katherine sits around and COLLECTS the money. IMO, that is the ONLY thing that she was worried about and that is that she was losing her money. Her not calling her grandchildren for TEN days shows me that she didn't give a damn about them. I don't give her a pass, just because she is 82 years old. She knew what she was doing and went along with it. I hope these kids keep their eyes open and not be surprised when they find out that she was a part of this deception, also. I pray that I am wrong for the sake of Michael's children.

mrs jackson is (as you key,) 82yrs old. imo she does not have dishonest intentions or any alterior motive(s) in regard to manipulating mj's monies, property and least alone his children.

i mean most women of her age seem to be about spending time with her grandchildren. i feel mrs jackson is doing her best to keep her health intact while in the midst of the turmoil. the kind of turmoil that seems to be coming at her from all sides of the family, the lawyers, the shady doctors, the agenda-ized advisors and the press.

i pray also that you are wrong about mrs jackson. i give her props for knowing she needed to get away. i feel the static it caused was totally unintentional.

i know from experience when things get too overwhelming some people have to "get away." it's kind of a time of emotional self-healing.

ewf said it best!

'get away' (partial lyrics)

i'm not saying i condone her move. however she made sure the mj's kids were in safe hands before she left. who knows if she was having symytoms from the diagnosed high blood pressure.

HBP alone can cause intermittent dizzyness and/or collapse. the last thing (i feel she felt) was to fall out into unconciousness in front of her grandchildren. imo she got away to reebee to feel she herself was in the safe hands of her eldest child in case her health failed her. no more/no less. no condemnation of her getting away comes from me.

[Edited 7/27/12 13:19pm]

musicjunky318 said:

Randy Jackson

The Estate Is Trying To Kill My Mother

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Randy Jackson believes the executors of the Michael Jackson Estate are conspiring to KILL Katherine Jackson.

Randy made the allegation in an emotional Twitter rant moments ago ... saying, "It is my fear and belief, that they are trying to take my mother’s life."

In the rant, Jackson states his case as to why he believes the MJ Estate is evil ... claiming they are trying to isolate Katherine "just like they did to Michael, in order to propagate their lies, financial agendas and to protect a fraudulent will."

Jackson continues, "It is clear that anyone who stands up against the Executors of the Estate - John Branca, John McClain and their attorney Howard Weitzman - is denied access to my mother."

Randy also says the Estate blocked Janet, Rebbie and Jermaine from the family home in Calabasas, CA ... where Michael's kids live with Katherine.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/0...ullwrapper

Lawd....I heard this was part of the "conspiracy" but I didn't think Randy was gonna just flat out say it. I think he's gonna get hit with a lawsuit for the things he's been saying

I ain't choosin' sides on this whole thing (family members AND the estate have acted shady on certain matters) and it's obvious all of this is the result of the siblings being against the will and executors

The tweets of Randy:

Randy Jackson ‏@randyjackson8

1) When TJ asked my mother if he should ask for temporary guardianship, my Mother told TJ NO – twice.

2) The Estate denied Rebbie, Janet and Jermaine access to the house when they returned to home to Calabasas with a letter written by Howard Weitzman, attorney for the Estate, who is not a resident of the home.

3) The Estate is trying to isolate my Mother from her family JUST LIKE THEY DID TO MICHAEL, in order to propagate their lies, financial agendas and to protect a fraudulent will.

4) The same people that are trying to manipulate my mother are the same people that were involved with my brother when he died.

5) In order to obtain temporary guardianship, TJ lied to the court. Rebbie, Janet, Jermaine and I would never harm our mother and we are doing our best to protect her and the Estate knows that. I want to know why Perry Sanders would consider a negotiation based on lies.

6) It is clear that anyone who stands up against the Executors of the Estate - John Branca, John McClain and their attorney Howard Weitzman - is denied access to my mother.

7) It is my fear and belief, that they are trying to take my mother’s life.

25 JulRandy Jackson ‏@randyjackson8

Again.. WHY would it be necessary for TJ to take guardianship of the children away from my mother when they were already in his care?

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25 JulRandy Jackson ‏@randyjackson8

THIS IS NOT OVER.

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25 JulRandy Jackson ‏@randyjackson8

Enough already!! We've already lost one family member.

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25 JulRandy Jackson ‏@randyjackson8

Trust me - the Executors are behind this. The "powers that be" use tabloid media to spin their lies and divide our family.

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bboy87 said:

musicjunky318 said:

Randy Jackson

The Estate Is Trying To Kill My Mother

[img:$uid]http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/07/25/0725-randy-jackson-tmz-2.jpg[/img:$uid]

Randy Jackson believes the executors of the Michael Jackson Estate are conspiring to KILL Katherine Jackson.

Randy made the allegation in an emotional Twitter rant moments ago ... saying, "It is my fear and belief, that they are trying to take my mother’s life."

In the rant, Jackson states his case as to why he believes the MJ Estate is evil ... claiming they are trying to isolate Katherine "just like they did to Michael, in order to propagate their lies, financial agendas and to protect a fraudulent will."

Jackson continues, "It is clear that anyone who stands up against the Executors of the Estate - John Branca, John McClain and their attorney Howard Weitzman - is denied access to my mother."

Randy also says the Estate blocked Janet, Rebbie and Jermaine from the family home in Calabasas, CA ... where Michael's kids live with Katherine.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/0...ullwrapper

Lawd....I heard this was part of the "conspiracy" but I didn't think Randy was gonna just flat out say it. I think he's gonna get hit with a lawsuit for the things he's been saying

I ain't choosin' sides on this whole thing (family members AND the estate have acted shady on certain matters) and it's obvious all of this is the result of the siblings being against the will and executors

You mean to tell me you didn't think Randy was this much of an idiot?