All of this proves one thing and one thing only. Twitter is so much better than wanky Facebook.

Free2BMe said:

Ellie said:

A little OT, but Janet exposed herself the second she started getting kissy kissy with Jay Leno. I don't even like my own brother but I sure as hell love him, and I wouldn't associate with anyone that openly attacked him in the way Leno overtly did.

Don't even say it's having to suck it up and be professional for the sake of her career because every single one of the ridiculous number of late night TV hosts in America was perfectly fine with their MJ jokes throughout the years, but Leno was the only one that was mean spirited, slanderous and accusatory, and his show is the one she chooses to appear on time and time again like they're close friends.

Thank You, other MJ fans have been saying this for YEARS. You can bet that Michael would never have gone on a show that slandered Janet. Of course, she has no problem kissing ass.

[Edited 7/26/12 13:18pm]

yep, same here! it's one thing to go on a show to promote your stuff and be polite to the host, but janet is always just-so-chummy with jay, rosie, and oprah, three people who would've gladly lit her brother on fire in the street. i couldn't do it and don't understand that kind of detachment.

also, remember: janet and randy gladly helped katherine put a beat down on a woman who they thought was having an affair with joe. janet is not the shy, composed, 'above it all' person that she pretends to be, or that the media have made her out to be.

Free2BMe said:

musicology54 said:

You sound exactly like azz. Red said:

How is Paris spoiled just because she said that her Grandmother had not had a stroke? How is Paris spoiled just because she exposed YOUR favorite Jackson, Janet and her other idiot sibilings in their scam? How is Paris spoiled when she said that she had not heard from her GrandPARENT in 10 days? Is Marlon spoiled, since he is now crying like a bitch saying that HE has not heard from his own mother? You Jackson defenders need to make up your fucking minds and stop blaiming a child for what your favorite-Janet and others- fucked up. STOP BEING COWARDS and admit that Janet and her family are behind this mess and they were BUSTED!!

and that's your f*cking opinion darlin - you're welcome to it. I am no Jackson defendor - complete opposit. The Jackson family is the epitome of a "dysfunctional family" caused by greed. It's a train wrech and most of us can't help to comment on what WE think. I stand by my viewpoint - U don't have to accept it. U also don't have to be so vitriolic with your comments. We'll watch Paris grow up and unfortunately she will be under a microscope for the rest of her life - kinda like Daddy, but I genuinely hope she finds someone - either family or other mentor that can keep her on the straight. Psssss - I still think she's spoiled - and it's not an assumption based on this last antic.

isobelfq said:

musicology54 said:

NaughtyKitty said:

I never thougth I'd say this but Gladys Knight can kiss my ass. I SAID KISS MY ASS!!! KISS IT!!! KISS IT!!!!

Paris deserves a smack in the face for what? Telling the truth? calling for some answers from people trying to control her life and her money?

I'm from the south too and i know what she's talking about. In the south you don't tell on people; you just keep your mouth shut and let them treat you any kind of way because they're older and that's the "respectful" thing to do. And then when you're an adult it's your turn to treat people like shit. and people wonder why this world is so dyfuntional. Fuck respect. Janet didn't have any right, legally or otherwise, to put her hands on any of those kids.

these children are being abused, period, full stop. taking their grandmother away from them and not telling them where she is is abuse. trying to force them to leave their home is abuse, lying to them and everyone in the world to cover their shit is abuse and trying to steal their money is abuse. Gladys shouldn't be advocating more abuse on top of all that. Shame on her.

Thank You. Gladys Knight is full of shit. Btw, I don't give a damn if she is a legend. She had no business saying what she did; especially since Paris did NOT cuss Janet out. This young girl is outspoken when it comes to defendinding her father and now her grandmother; however, she is not disprectful. Michael taught these kids manners and there is NO ONE ANYWHERE who has been around these kids who have said that they are spoiled or ill-mannered. All of this shit is coming from Janet and her delusional stans. I don't have to respect Glady's and I don't anymore. She is shit to me now.

isobelfq said:

Free2BMe said:

Just wanted to say that Jermaine was NEVER as big or bigger than Michael at any point in Jermaine's career. Granted, Jermaine did have some success, however, that success was a blimp as compared to Michael. Another thing, Michael was shy and quiet as a child, however, Michael was NEVER a pushover. I don't know anyone who actually worked with Michael who described him as someone who didm't control his business and affairs. It's true that he had vultures who UNDERMINED him. Even with all of the vultures saying that he was "broke", Michael never filed for bankruptcy, he didn't sell ATV as the medid claimed that he would. He MERGED ATV with Sony, thereby he still owns HALF of Sony/ATV catalogue worh a billion dollars and counting. That doesn't even take into account Sony/ATV's recent purchase of EMI publishing. Michael's net worth is well over a billion dollars, yet,the puck ass media will try to diminish that. Of course, some people are not even smart enough to realize what the media has done for years and are still trying to do about Michael's financial worth.

I could be wrong about that. I just remember watching something on Vh1 that said that when all the jackson's first started going solo Jermaine was the most sucessful one of them all and no one gave that much thougth to michael. Either way Jermaine is jealous, always has been.

jermaine must have paid vh1 outright to state those lies! as free said, jermaine has never ever been bigger - or as big - as mj as a solo artist, even when they were kids. jermaine had one big solo hit, 'daddy's home', while mj had at least three or four, and they've had staying power. i think jermaine only had one solo album while they were all at motown, but i know mj had at least two.

when jermaine left to go on his own, he was heavily promoted but his album went nowhere. it took five years and stevie wonder to bring him another big hit, but it's not like i hear 'let's get serious' or any of his subsequent hits with any regularity. his songs haven't necessarily become 'classics'.

aardvark15 said:

Your the one not looking at facts. People need to quit picking out what they want to hear.

musicology54 said:

I feel sorry for blanket. Having to go through this mess.

I feel sorry for Blanket too. Something about him tugs at my heart. He just seems so sad.

isobelfq said:

Be back in an hour. I'm off to watch Hollywood Exes now Child!

That's a good show! I really like watching it

OK back on topic, I'm wondering if the kids might want TJ to have permanent custody--out of love and concern for Katherine. Because their aunts and uncles have truly shown their ugly and ruthless dark sides, I wonder if they might think it would be a better situation for her mental and physical well-being for them to be under guardianship of someone else. I would think that when the next court hearing for guardianship happens, the judge is going to want to hear from the kids themselves how they feel about this.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Prince Jackson's Controversial

Tweet Removed As Family War Grows

The Jackson family drama just continues to grow.

On Thursday, a controversial tweet posted on Prince Michael Jackson's account bashing his aunt Janet Jackson, was mysteriously removed and replaced with a strange, cryptic message, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.

As previously reported, Prince Michael broke his silence Thursday on the dramasurrounding his family by tweeting a terse text exchange between he and his aunt which appears to show the Control singer did not want Prince, Paris or Blanket to see their grandmother, Katherine Jackson during the time she was squirreled away at an Arizona Spa.

RadarOnline.com has independently verified the validity of the text messages and Twitter account.

In the text -- sent this past Monday at 4:52 p.m. -- Prince Michael writes "This is enough so I am texting you for the simple fact that WE DEMAND TO SPEAK TO MY GRANDMA NOW!" Prince Michael sent the text to his auntsRebbie and Janet, and also to another relative, Austin Jackson. Janet responded: "Don't let them pls."

The text exchange contradicts a claim made by Randy Jackson earlier this week that Michael's children were free to see or talk with their grandmother at any time.

Those Tweets have since been deleted from Prince's profile and replaced with "these tweets are not our own," which was posted from a computer and not an iPhone, which Prince usually uses when posting to his account. The most recent Tweet has also been deleted.

"There is cause for concern because Prince and Janet did exchange those text messages that were shown on his Twitter account early this morning," a source close to the situation tells RadarOnline.com. "Prince was up very late last night and was in possession of his cell phone. Prince fell asleep very, very late last night, so there's a level of speculation that he wasn't the person to remove the tweets -- that someone else did, and then posted the new bizarre message in place.

"The children are absolutely safe though. Remember, TJ is their legal guardian right now, not Katherine. Even though she is home the kids' regular security team are with them and haven't been replaced."

Meanwhile, Katherine Jackson's attorney, Perry Sanders hopes to meet with his client later today to discuss a game plan to regain custody of her grandchildren, according to our sources.

Story developing....

http://www.radaronline.co...ts-removed

Free2BMe said:

isobelfq said:

I never thougth I'd say this but Gladys Knight can kiss my ass. I SAID KISS MY ASS!!! KISS IT!!! KISS IT!!!!

Paris deserves a smack in the face for what? Telling the truth? calling for some answers from people trying to control her life and her money?

I'm from the south too and i know what she's talking about. In the south you don't tell on people; you just keep your mouth shut and let them treat you any kind of way because they're older and that's the "respectful" thing to do. And then when you're an adult it's your turn to treat people like shit. and people wonder why this world is so dyfuntional. Fuck respect. Janet didn't have any right, legally or otherwise, to put her hands on any of those kids.

these children are being abused, period, full stop. taking their grandmother away from them and not telling them where she is is abuse. trying to force them to leave their home is abuse, lying to them and everyone in the world to cover their shit is abuse and trying to steal their money is abuse. Gladys shouldn't be advocating more abuse on top of all that. Shame on her.

Thank You. Gladys Knight is full of shit. Btw, I don't give a damn if she is a legend. She had no business saying what she did; especially since Paris did NOT cuss Janet out. This young girl is outspoken when it comes to defendinding her father and now her grandmother; however, she is not disprectful. Michael taught these kids manners and there is NO ONE ANYWHERE who has been around these kids who have said that they are spoiled or ill-mannered. All of this shit is coming from Janet and her delusional stans. I don't have to respect Glady's and I don't anymore. She is shit to me now.

Um, you guys, wasn't Gladys's statement in reaction to the false report that Paris slapped her aunt and cursed at her? It's a story that spread so fast amongst news outlets that a lot of people were speaking on it because it was shocking, not knowing that it was made up (thanks TMZ). Does anyone have the video on this so we can get the context of what she was trying to say?

I'm just saying...let's not cast aspersions on the woman because of a reaction to something she (like many others) had to something she didn't realize wasn't true. Mrs. Knight, in my personal experience, is a pretty solid woman whom it's doubtful would actually "advocate abuse". You don't have to repsect her, but. to say she advocates abuse is a stretch..well, y'all know what I mean....I hope.

Lawd, this thread is doin' too many thangs

Ottensen said:

Free2BMe said:

Thank You. Gladys Knight is full of shit. Btw, I don't give a damn if she is a legend. She had no business saying what she did; especially since Paris did NOT cuss Janet out. This young girl is outspoken when it comes to defendinding her father and now her grandmother; however, she is not disprectful. Michael taught these kids manners and there is NO ONE ANYWHERE who has been around these kids who have said that they are spoiled or ill-mannered. All of this shit is coming from Janet and her delusional stans. I don't have to respect Glady's and I don't anymore. She is shit to me now.

Um, you guys, wasn't Gladys's statement in reaction to the false report that Paris slapped her aunt and cursed at her? It's a story that spread so fast amongst news outlets that a lot of people were speaking on it because it was shocking, not knowing that it was made up (thanks TMZ). Does anyone have the video on this so we can get the context of what she was trying to say?

I'm just saying...let's not cast aspersions on the woman because of a reaction to something she (like many others) had to something she didn't realize wasn't true. Mrs. Knight, in my personal experience, is a pretty solid woman whom it's doubtful would actually "advocate abuse". You don't have to repsect her, but. to say she advocates abuse is a stretch..well, y'all know what I mean....I hope.

Lawd, this thread is doin' too many thangs

Yeah I think she was responding to that report of Paris being slapped by Janet.

Here is the video:

Ottensen said:

Free2BMe said:

Thank You. Gladys Knight is full of shit. Btw, I don't give a damn if she is a legend. She had no business saying what she did; especially since Paris did NOT cuss Janet out. This young girl is outspoken when it comes to defendinding her father and now her grandmother; however, she is not disprectful. Michael taught these kids manners and there is NO ONE ANYWHERE who has been around these kids who have said that they are spoiled or ill-mannered. All of this shit is coming from Janet and her delusional stans. I don't have to respect Glady's and I don't anymore. She is shit to me now.

Um, you guys, wasn't Gladys's statement in reaction to the false report that Paris slapped her aunt and cursed at her? It's a story that spread so fast amongst news outlets that a lot of people were speaking on it because it was shocking, not knowing that it was made up (thanks TMZ). Does anyone have the video on this so we can get the context of what she was trying to say?

I'm just saying...let's not cast aspersions on the woman because of a reaction to something she (like many others) had to something she didn't realize wasn't true. Mrs. Knight, in my personal experience, is a pretty solid woman whom it's doubtful would actually "advocate abuse". You don't have to repsect her, but. to say she advocates abuse is a stretch..well, y'all know what I mean....I hope.

Lawd, this thread is doin' too many thangs

umm...saying that Paris would have no teeth is advocating abuse. She's saying she would knock them out, not taker her to the dentist and have them pulled. Kidding or not that's advocating abuse. People shouldn't say shit like that, full stop. So whether or not paris slapped janet is irrelavent. Janet shouldn't have put her hands on her in the first place. and if paris had hit her back i would say good, she's defending herself. you don't have to wait until you're 18 to start defending yourself. if paris can do it now, good on her.

Besides, Ms. Knight's whole reaction is hypocritical. She's saying Paris shouldn't spread shit about the jacksons while she herself was spreading shit about the jacksons.

abc

Katherine Jackson is home -- but the circumstances over how she became “missing” for nearly 11 days is still a mystery.

Michael Jackson’s daughter Paris Jackson tweeted early this morning: "grandma's here! #thankyougod." Jackson's son Marlon also posted a note on Twitter saying his mother had returned, adding she looked and sound great.

The family matriarch’s apparent arrival back home in Calabasas, Calif., came after a Los Angeles judge temporarily stripped her of guardianship of The Glove One’s three kids.

MJ’s kids — Paris, Prince and Blanket — are now under the legal care of 34-year-old Tito Joe “TJ” Jackson, son of Tito Jackson. He went to court yesterday and said Katherine sounded odd in a phone conversation, using unusual words and slurring her speech.

Then late last night, Katherine delivered a weird televised message, declaring that she’s been staying at a Tucson, Ariz. spa, and any hints that she’s been held against her will was a “bunch of lies.”

Katherine read from a prepared statement, surrounded by kids Jermaine, Janet and Rebbie, Rebbie’s adult daughter and the spa’s marketing director.

“There are rumors going around about me that I’ve been kidnapped and held against my will,” she read.

“I’m here today to tell everyone now that I’m fine and I’m here with my children and my children would never do a thing like that hold against me against my will. It’s very stupid of people to think that.”

Katherine made the statement to ABC’s “Nightline.” A reporter at the event was not allowed to ask any questions, and kids occasionally had to help Katherine by pointing to where she was in the script.

The matriarch took off earlier this month without telling her grandkids, prompting her nephew Trent to call cops and report her missing. Paris took to Twitter and demanded that her “missing” grandmom be returned home.

Katherine’s strange, impromptu trip coincidentally came at the same time several of her kids sought to overturn Michael Jackson’s will.

MJ’s siblings, led by Jermaine and Randy, insist the document is fake and they want estate executors to step down.

The King of Pop’s three kids and Katherine had been opposed to the scheme, because they’re well cared for under terms of the will, family sources said.

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Mitchell Beckloff made a vague, ominous remark in court, that “intentional acts of third parties” were impeding Katherine to act as guardian.

Katherine, speaking off her script, said she should be returned as guardian: “The ruling in court today was about the guardianship and I think it was based on a bunch of lies, but I have a good idea of who’s doing that, who’s behind it.”

"I am devastated that while I've been away, that my children, my grandchildren, have been taken away from me, and I'm coming home to see about that, also," Katherine said.

“I told him [TJ Jackson] it wasn’t necessary for him to go down to court and sign up for guardianship.”

MJ’s son Prince isn’t sold on the company line that his grandmother was simply staying at an Arizona spa on doctor’s orders.

"As long as I can remember my dad repeatedly warned me of certain people and their ways," Prince Michael tweeted. "Although I am happy my grandma was returned, after speaking with her I realize how misguided and how badly she was lied to. I 'm really angry and hurt."

Katherine gets $840,000 a year to care for MJ’s three kids, TMZ reported.

The judge could end up funneling all that money to TJ, and cut Katherine out of the picture -- an unintended consequence of the siblings trying to overturn The King of Pop’s will, TMZ said.

this story is getting to be like a mini-series

isobelfq said:

Ottensen said:

Um, you guys, wasn't Gladys's statement in reaction to the false report that Paris slapped her aunt and cursed at her? It's a story that spread so fast amongst news outlets that a lot of people were speaking on it because it was shocking, not knowing that it was made up (thanks TMZ). Does anyone have the video on this so we can get the context of what she was trying to say?

I'm just saying...let's not cast aspersions on the woman because of a reaction to something she (like many others) had to something she didn't realize wasn't true. Mrs. Knight, in my personal experience, is a pretty solid woman whom it's doubtful would actually "advocate abuse". You don't have to repsect her, but. to say she advocates abuse is a stretch..well, y'all know what I mean....I hope.

Lawd, this thread is doin' too many thangs

umm...saying that Paris would have no teeth is advocating abuse. She's saying she would knock them out, not taker her to the dentist and have them pulled. Kidding or not that's advocating abuse. People shouldn't say shit like that, full stop. So whether or not paris slapped janet is irrelavent. Janet shouldn't have put her hands on her in the first place. and if paris had hit her back i would say good, she's defending herself. you don't have to wait until you're 18 to start defending yourself. if paris can do it now, good on her.

Besides, Ms. Knight's whole reaction is hypocritical. She's saying Paris shouldn't spread shit about the jacksons while she herself was spreading shit about the jacksons.

If that's the way you feel, okay, Hon. Have at it.

Ellie said:

All of this proves one thing and one thing only. Twitter is so much better than wanky Facebook.

You know something...I haven't been on FB since this mess started. [img:$uid]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e70/SexyBeautifulOne/lmao.gif[/img:$uid]

NaughtyKitty said:

KATHERINE JACKSON
Had FULL Phone Access
at Arizona Resort

EXCLUSIVE

Katherine Jackson had FULL ACCESS to a working phone during her stay in Arizona and could easily have called her grandkids whenever she wanted ... so says a rep for the resort.

A spokesperson for the Miraval Resort -- where Katherine stayed for nine days, beginning last week -- tells TMZ, Katherine stayed in a luxury villa that DEFINITELY contained a working phone.

For the record ... the villa also came with a full kitchen, a private patio, its own pool ... and its own butler.

And if full phone access wasn't enough -- Katherine also had FREE WI-FI.

Bottom line ... the Miraval Resort is adamant ... Katherine wasn't as cut off from the outside world as she previously claimed.

After yesterday's court hearing, Katherine's lawyer was asked why she wasn't allowed to use a phone to call her grandkids -- and her lawyer said he was told "the section of the facility she stayed at didn't allow phones of any kind. Or computers."

The Miraval rep insists ... that's just not true.

so much for 'guest discretion' Miraval.

Ottensen said:

isobelfq said:

umm...saying that Paris would have no teeth is advocating abuse. She's saying she would knock them out, not taker her to the dentist and have them pulled. Kidding or not that's advocating abuse. People shouldn't say shit like that, full stop. So whether or not paris slapped janet is irrelavent. Janet shouldn't have put her hands on her in the first place. and if paris had hit her back i would say good, she's defending herself. you don't have to wait until you're 18 to start defending yourself. if paris can do it now, good on her.

Besides, Ms. Knight's whole reaction is hypocritical. She's saying Paris shouldn't spread shit about the jacksons while she herself was spreading shit about the jacksons.

If that's the way you feel, okay, Hon. Have at it.

I don't want to get into a flame war with you over this but don't be condescending; it's not necessary.

Red said:

NaughtyKitty said:

KATHERINE JACKSON
Had FULL Phone Access
at Arizona Resort

EXCLUSIVE

Katherine Jackson had FULL ACCESS to a working phone during her stay in Arizona and could easily have called her grandkids whenever she wanted ... so says a rep for the resort.

A spokesperson for the Miraval Resort -- where Katherine stayed for nine days, beginning last week -- tells TMZ, Katherine stayed in a luxury villa that DEFINITELY contained a working phone.

For the record ... the villa also came with a full kitchen, a private patio, its own pool ... and its own butler.

And if full phone access wasn't enough -- Katherine also had FREE WI-FI.

Bottom line ... the Miraval Resort is adamant ... Katherine wasn't as cut off from the outside world as she previously claimed.

After yesterday's court hearing, Katherine's lawyer was asked why she wasn't allowed to use a phone to call her grandkids -- and her lawyer said he was told "the section of the facility she stayed at didn't allow phones of any kind. Or computers."

The Miraval rep insists ... that's just not true.

so much for 'guest discretion' Miraval.

'Guest discrection' goes out the window when the guest publicly lies on the establishment.

Ottensen said:

bboy87 said:

The same can be said about Brandi, Jackie's daughter because she's adopted and about Donte because we still don't know who his parents really are

Shit, is so damned many of them grandkids, can we be sure that all their behinds can be accounted for? For all we or anybody at Havenhurst knows, one of 'em coulda just snuck in at a Jackson Family BBQ and never left !

like Lucky did in Poetic Justice

"Cousin Pete!"

my prediction: the kids do not stay with katherine. i didn't see it, but i heard excerpts from gma/nightline, and holy mackeral! she didn't do herself any favors. plus, you have a producer for gma saying that he was not allowed to ask her even pre-approved questions (allegedly, i only read that so i put that caveat out there). it makes it look like she's being controlled, or as the judge characterized it 'interference from third parties'. it seems to me, based on his words, the judge is looking for any excuse to relieve her of her guardianship at this point, and she probably gave it to him.

my second prediction: the kids do not stay with any jackson. tj has been appointed, yet p&p have still not calmed down. the fact that both of these kids are now tweeting, says that no adult is in control in calabasas.

isobelfq said:

Ottensen said:

If that's the way you feel, okay, Hon. Have at it.

I don't want to get into a flame war with you over this but don't be condescending; it's not necessary.

Don't coz it will just ruin a great discussion and flaming is against the site rules.

kibbles said:

my prediction: the kids do not stay with katherine. i didn't see it, but i heard excerpts from gma/nightline, and holy mackeral! she didn't do herself any favors. plus, you have a producer for gma saying that he was not allowed to ask her even pre-approved questions (allegedly, i only read that so i put that caveat out there). it makes it look like she's being controlled, or as the judge characterized it 'interference from third parties'. it seems to me, based on his words, the judge is looking for any excuse to relieve her of her guardianship at this point, and she probably gave it to him.

my second prediction: the kids do not stay with any jackson. tj has been appointed, yet p&p have still not calmed down. the fact that both of these kids are now tweeting, says that no adult is in control in calabasas.

I saw the whole thing and I agree with the people who said she appeared as though she was reading a hostage letter.

Now that she's finally hearing the other side of the story I wonder if she will chastise anybody?

Their efforts at damage control keep backfiring.

It looks to me like everyone WANTS to hate on the jacksons so no matter what they do it'll look suspect:

"Katherine looked like she was reading a hostage letter"

"Katherine had access to phones"

"Janet slapped Paris"

"Randy lied"

So it's hopeless and no one will be happy until the children are taken away from her and put somewhere where they're free to run amok and sing and act, just like their father wanted them to right?

It's turned into a Team Siblings Vs. Team Kids and it looks like the kids are winning. But with so many rumors flying and TMZ being used as a reliable source, it hardly seems to matter.

And at the end of the day I still bet them lawyers are gonna get their hands on that money!

babynoz said:

kibbles said:

my prediction: the kids do not stay with katherine. i didn't see it, but i heard excerpts from gma/nightline, and holy mackeral! she didn't do herself any favors. plus, you have a producer for gma saying that he was not allowed to ask her even pre-approved questions (allegedly, i only read that so i put that caveat out there). it makes it look like she's being controlled, or as the judge characterized it 'interference from third parties'. it seems to me, based on his words, the judge is looking for any excuse to relieve her of her guardianship at this point, and she probably gave it to him.

my second prediction: the kids do not stay with any jackson. tj has been appointed, yet p&p have still not calmed down. the fact that both of these kids are now tweeting, says that no adult is in control in calabasas.

I saw the whole thing and I agree with the people who said she appeared as though she was reading a hostage letter.

Now that she's finally hearing the other side of the story I wonder if she will chastise anybody?

Their efforts at damage control keep backfiring.

Who knows?

What new happenings today?

BREAKING NEWS!!!

Now it all makes sense!!

The reason that TOY TOY has been silent this entire time!

She has been kidnapped by Jack Gordon's ghost and held captive in a Korean karaoke bar!

CynicKill said:

It looks to me like everyone WANTS to hate on the jacksons so no matter what they do it'll look suspect:

"Katherine looked like she was reading a hostage letter"

"Katherine had access to phones"

"Janet slapped Paris"

"Randy lied"

So it's hopeless and no one will be happy until the children are taken away from her and put somewhere where they're free to run amok and sing and act, just like their father wanted them to right?

It's turned into a Team Siblings Vs. Team Kids and it looks like the kids are winning. But with so many rumors flying and TMZ being used as a reliable source, it hardly seems to matter.

And at the end of the day I still bet them lawyers are gonna get their hands on that money!

"Hate" sure is an overused term these days,

In any news story you're gonna get comments on both sides...nothing to panic over though.

My observations go a bit beyond TMZ and the current debacle to consider documented patterns of behavior that occurred way before these kids were even born.

The lawyers always get their cut in these kinds of situations...nothing new about that either.

Agree to disagree...simple.