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Reply #1020 posted 07/25/12 3:24pm

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Meanwhile, in heaven....




Mike must be enjoying this. lol
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Reply #1021 posted 07/25/12 3:26pm

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Ah guess who decides to show up now:

Joe Jackson
Returns to L.A. --
Don't Forget About Me!

Because no Jackson family drama is complete without Papa Joe ... Katherine's estranged husband has finally come to town ... and moments ago, he arrived to the family's famous home in Encino, CA.

It's the first time we've seen Joe Jackson since Katherine was reported missing over the weekend.

Joe -- who spends most of his time in Vegas and rarely comes to L.A. -- pulled up at the Jackson compound roughly 30 minutes ago in a black Mercedes with Nevada plates, wearing his trademark fedora. We're told he checked the mail and disappeared into the home.

Katherine is currently on her way back to L.A.

No word on how long Joe plans to stay in town ... or if he plans to meet up with the family to try and end the drama.

Oh lawd................. not that abusive greedy loser. eek

Bet his plan is to swoop down on the grandkids money and get a piece of the money pie.

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Reply #1022 posted 07/25/12 3:27pm

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^Joe does that on any day ending in y.
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Reply #1023 posted 07/25/12 3:36pm

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They're doing this now because,all of MJ's debts have been paid off and the estate is now worth a billion dollars.The brothers are anxious and in panic mode,desperate to get a piece of all that cash.Keep in mind that a few of the brothers (Jermaine and Randy) can't even afford to pay their child support payments.They're basically broke.So,when they read in the news that their dead brother's estate is worth a billion dollars,they decide to strike.That's what this latest scheme is really all about.

Unholyalliance said:

I know that the motivation is money, but do you think that they decided to do this now, simply because of the reports that MJ's estate is worth $1 billion?

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Reply #1024 posted 07/25/12 3:39pm

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lazycrockett said:

^Joe does that on any day ending in y.

lol You've posted that many times nod

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Reply #1025 posted 07/25/12 3:48pm

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SoulAlive said:

are they even still on tour? Seems that,lately,they've been preoccupied with other things.

The tour starts up again Friday. They have a show each night this weekend and that's the end of the tour.

they were here at the greek in l.a. this past sunday. i finally found a review from the times about the show, and the guy spent 3/4 of it talking about all this shit, nothing really about their performances. other reviewers have been generally kind to them; no need in kicking these guys when they can see that these guys are desperately trying to resurrect a past that's long gone. still, it will be interesting to hear the reviews of the last shows. i wonder if they will continue to be kind in light of today's events.

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Reply #1026 posted 07/25/12 3:51pm

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morningsong said:

I'm assuming all this drama has come about because of a teenager and a Twitter account? It's what I'm reading after sifting through all the opinions.

Randy, Janet, Rebbie, and Tito signed a letter to the estate then Michael's kids and Katherine's nephew/assistant hadn't heard from her for a number of days, the nephew filed a missing person's report, someone asked Paris on Twitter and she confirmed it......then all this happened

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Reply #1027 posted 07/25/12 3:54pm

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SoulAlive said:

They're doing this now because,all of MJ's debts have been paid off and the estate is now worth a billion dollars.The brothers are anxious and in panic mode,desperate to get a piece of all that cash.Keep in mind that a few of the brothers (Jermaine and Randy) can't even afford to pay their child support payments.They're basically broke.So,when they read in the news that their dead brother's estate is worth a billion dollars,they decide to strike.That's what this latest scheme is really all about.

Unholyalliance said:

I know that the motivation is money, but do you think that they decided to do this now, simply because of the reports that MJ's estate is worth $1 billion?

Give TJ the kids and have him hire an attorney, and let that poor attorney deal with The Jackson brothers and Janet. I hold them all equally responsible, seeing as they all signed that stupid letter, which kickstarted all this drama. Don't tell me they didn't know what singing that document would mean?

I realize I don't have "all" the facts, but from what I've read and seen reported, plus knowing how this family is, (no family is perfect), this latest twist really sickens me. Michael's kids deserve so much better and if they want to be with TJ...I'm all for it.

I wish Katherine was the strong woman that Angela played her to be in "The Jacksons: An American Dream" but that woman seems gone and replaced with, a person who lets her kids walk all over her.

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Reply #1028 posted 07/25/12 3:54pm

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Not defending the Jacksons but I can't be judgemental about this. We may see bits and pieces but we really don't know the whole story. I can't believe and assume about everything that's printed. You know how the media is , they love to take a story and make it juicy.
I'm not saying I don't believe there's a lot of drama, but I'm not gonna be quick to be judgemental of anyone involved.
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Reply #1029 posted 07/25/12 3:55pm

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this kind of greed infects most americans, what really shocks me is the involvement of Janet. You know it's not money, all families are crazy and have mental things that defy logic. I guess its just a primal family thing which we all have that makes us lose our minds when we feel threatened. Worse of all, this is all in public view with millions passing judgement (and being entertained) by the bizareness.

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Reply #1030 posted 07/25/12 4:04pm

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Shocking New Claim: Katherine Jackson Given Alcohol, Seemed Drunk in Arizona

Katherine Jackson seemed drunk when she finally spoke to Michael Jackson's children Tuesday night for the first time in more than a week, and it alarmed the kids because the devout Jehovah's Witness doesn't normally drink alcohol, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.

As previously reported
, the Jackson family matriarch is on her way back to Los Angeles from the swanky Miraval spa in Arizona, where she had been holed up for the last week with no telephone or computer access. Katherine likely won't go to the rental house that she had been living in with the children, but will instead head to the Jackson family compound in Encino.


"It's time to let cooler heads prevail right now and it's very likely that Katherine will be staying at the Hayvenhurst mansion for the short term," a source close to the situation tells RadarOnline.com. "When Paris spoke to Katherine last night she sounded like she was drunk. Paris repeatedly asked her, are you ok, and Mrs. Jackson was slurring her words. I was told that it appears that Katherine was given alcohol during the time she was staying at Miraval, and remember, it was stated in court today that she had recently been diagnosed with high blood pressure. Katherine is extremely upset and distraught to learn that she lost custody of the children, but is hopeful she will be re-instated as their legal guardian very shortly."

As RadarOnline.com previously reported, Katherine's attorney, Perry Sanders told Radar directly after the hearing, "Randy (Jackson) texted me during the court proceedings and said that Katherine was on her way back to Los Angeles. I will be going back to court in the very near future to have her guardianship of Michael Jackson's children re-instated.

Meanwhile, Katherine could face legal obstacles in her bid to retain guardianship of the kids. "If the kids tell TJ they want him to be their primary guardian, he is ready to honor that wish. It's too soon to say what the children want....again, we need to let cooler heads prevail, and all agree on what is best for the children first and foremost. What is evident is that if Katherine does get custody back there will be further things implemented so that something like this doesn't happen again. There is concern for Mrs. Jackson's health at this point, because she is extremely upset with Randy, Janet and Jermaine for getting her into this situation. We have to remember Katherine's age, and this is taking a tremendous toll on her," the source revealed.


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Reply #1031 posted 07/25/12 4:04pm

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Vanilli said:

SoulAlive said:

They're doing this now because,all of MJ's debts have been paid off and the estate is now worth a billion dollars.The brothers are anxious and in panic mode,desperate to get a piece of all that cash.Keep in mind that a few of the brothers (Jermaine and Randy) can't even afford to pay their child support payments.They're basically broke.So,when they read in the news that their dead brother's estate is worth a billion dollars,they decide to strike.That's what this latest scheme is really all about.

Give TJ the kids and have him hire an attorney, and let that poor attorney deal with The Jackson brothers and Janet. I hold them all equally responsible, seeing as they all signed that stupid letter, which kickstarted all this drama. Don't tell me they didn't know what singing that document would mean?

I realize I don't have "all" the facts, but from what I've read and seen reported, plus knowing how this family is, (no family is perfect), this latest twist really sickens me. Michael's kids deserve so much better and if they want to be with TJ...I'm all for it.

I wish Katherine was the strong woman that Angela played her to be in "The Jacksons: An American Dream" but that woman seems gone and replaced with, a person who lets her kids walk all over her.

This is why MJ fans are sickening.

The woman is 82 years old. And you are right, you don't know the facts!

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Reply #1032 posted 07/25/12 4:05pm

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lazycrockett said:

^Joe does that on any day ending in y.

What else is new.
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Reply #1033 posted 07/25/12 4:07pm

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Not defending the Jacksons but I can't be judgemental about this. We may see bits and pieces but we really don't know the whole story. I can't believe and assume about everything that's printed. You know how the media is , they love to take a story and make it juicy. I'm not saying I don't believe there's a lot of drama, but I'm not gonna be quick to be judgemental of anyone involved.

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Reply #1034 posted 07/25/12 4:09pm

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The View aired today with Gladys Knight as one of the panel. The ladies were talking about this and had film to prove that Janet smacked Paris and called her a "spoiled bitch." Paris smacked her back and said, "Get the fuck out!" Gladys was funny when she said something like, "I was raised in the South. If that had been me, Paris wouldn't have any teeth."

So it seems that the shit has hit the fan. MJ's estate is worth a billion? Holy shit! With that kind of money, I am not surprised everyone is going apeshit in the family. But I do feel sorry for the children. Hell, I felt sorry for them before they were even born. I knew this shit would happen one day. A billion dollars? I won't be surprised is someone comes up dead... Hell folk have done worse for much less money.

It's sad that Michael's fortune is being squandered. You can bet the attorneds well get their third, if not more. Them the ones you gotta watch, greedy muh nod

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Reply #1035 posted 07/25/12 4:12pm

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I saw the Jackson's Unity Tour in Vegas on Thursday, 7/20 and had a great time. I enjoyed the show very much..

Just saying.

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Reply #1036 posted 07/25/12 4:13pm

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Shyra said:

The View aired today with Gladys Knight as one of the panel. The ladies were talking about this and had film to prove that Janet smacked Paris and called her a "spoiled bitch." Paris smacked her back and said, "Get the fuck out!" Gladys was funny when she said something like, "I was raised in the South. If that had been me, Paris wouldn't have any teeth."

So it seems that the shit has hit the fan. MJ's estate is worth a billion? Holy shit! With that kind of money, I am not surprised everyone is going apeshit in the family. But I do feel sorry for the children. Hell, I felt sorry for them before they were even born. I knew this shit would happen one day. A billion dollars? I won't be surprised is someone comes up dead... Hell folk have done worse for much less money.

It's sad that Michael's fortune is being squandered. You can bet the attorneds well get their third, if not more. Them the ones you gotta watch, greedy muh nod

We dont know for certain if Janet really said that... TMZ spinned that story... did you exactly HEAR the audio?

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Reply #1037 posted 07/25/12 4:13pm

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Are you serious. All that you have been doing is bashing mj fans for something we didnt do. You claim that you like michael but you constantly bash his fans left and right.

Azz said:



Vanilli said:




SoulAlive said:


They're doing this now because,all of MJ's debts have been paid off and the estate is now worth a billion dollars.The brothers are anxious and in panic mode,desperate to get a piece of all that cash.Keep in mind that a few of the brothers (Jermaine and Randy) can't even afford to pay their child support payments.They're basically broke.So,when they read in the news that their dead brother's estate is worth a billion dollars,they decide to strike.That's what this latest scheme is really all about.







Give TJ the kids and have him hire an attorney, and let that poor attorney deal with The Jackson brothers and Janet. I hold them all equally responsible, seeing as they all signed that stupid letter, which kickstarted all this drama. Don't tell me they didn't know what singing that document would mean?



I realize I don't have "all" the facts, but from what I've read and seen reported, plus knowing how this family is, (no family is perfect), this latest twist really sickens me. Michael's kids deserve so much better and if they want to be with TJ...I'm all for it.



I wish Katherine was the strong woman that Angela played her to be in "The Jacksons: An American Dream" but that woman seems gone and replaced with, a person who lets her kids walk all over her.




This is why MJ fans are sickening.



The woman is 82 years old. And you are right, you don't know the facts!

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Reply #1038 posted 07/25/12 4:14pm

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Shyra said:

The View aired today with Gladys Knight as one of the panel. The ladies were talking about this and had film to prove that Janet smacked Paris and called her a "spoiled bitch." Paris smacked her back and said, "Get the fuck out!" Gladys was funny when she said something like, "I was raised in the South. If that had been me, Paris wouldn't have any teeth."

So it seems that the shit has hit the fan. MJ's estate is worth a billion? Holy shit! With that kind of money, I am not surprised everyone is going apeshit in the family. But I do feel sorry for the children. Hell, I felt sorry for them before they were even born. I knew this shit would happen one day. A billion dollars? I won't be surprised is someone comes up dead... Hell folk have done worse for much less money.

It's sad that Michael's fortune is being squandered. You can bet the attorneds well get their third, if not more. Them the ones you gotta watch, greedy muh nod

There is no footage, because that did not happen. Paris Tweeted so herself.

Then again, this girl is on record lying.

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Reply #1039 posted 07/25/12 4:14pm

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mjscarousal said:

Shyra said:

The View aired today with Gladys Knight as one of the panel. The ladies were talking about this and had film to prove that Janet smacked Paris and called her a "spoiled bitch." Paris smacked her back and said, "Get the fuck out!" Gladys was funny when she said something like, "I was raised in the South. If that had been me, Paris wouldn't have any teeth."

So it seems that the shit has hit the fan. MJ's estate is worth a billion? Holy shit! With that kind of money, I am not surprised everyone is going apeshit in the family. But I do feel sorry for the children. Hell, I felt sorry for them before they were even born. I knew this shit would happen one day. A billion dollars? I won't be surprised is someone comes up dead... Hell folk have done worse for much less money.

It's sad that Michael's fortune is being squandered. You can bet the attorneds well get their third, if not more. Them the ones you gotta watch, greedy muh nod

We dont know for certain if Janet really said that... TMZ spinned that story... did you exactly HEAR the audio?

Paris already said she wasn't slapped, why are they still reporting it?

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Reply #1040 posted 07/25/12 4:16pm

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Exclusive: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'

In an exclusive interview with ABC News, Katherine Jackson said she is "devastated" her grandchildren have been "taken away" from her and she's returning to Los Angeles to be reunited with them today.

"I am devastated that while I've been away, my grandchildren have been taken away from me, and I'm coming home," she said.

The 82-year-old Jackson family matriarch also addressed rumors concerning her whereabouts.

"There are rumors going around about me that I have been kidnapped," she said. "I am here today to let everybody to know that I am good and fine."

"My children would never do anything to me like that," she added.

Katherine Jackson said today's court ruling that made TJ Jackson the temporary guardian of Paris Michael, Prince Michael, and Prince Michael II was "based on a bunch of lies." She explained that her stay in Arizona at the Miraval Resort & Spa was a "short vacation and rest."

As for not calling her grandchildren for days, Katherine Jackson said, "One reason I didn't call is I just gave up my phone and I didn't want to have any phone calls while I was here."

Check back with ABCNews.com for Katherine Jackson's full statement, and watch her statement tonight on "Nightline."

http://abcnews.go.com/Ent...BB9VqOrFn4

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Reply #1041 posted 07/25/12 4:17pm

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musicology54 said:

Are you serious. All that you have been doing is bashing mj fans for something we didnt do. You claim that you like michael but you constantly bash his fans left and right.Azz said:

This is why MJ fans are sickening.

The woman is 82 years old. And you are right, you don't know the facts!

I am fan of MJ, not MJ's fans. confused

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Reply #1042 posted 07/25/12 4:18pm

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poor Katherine neutral it's gotta be shocking for her to come home and find that her grandchildren have been taken away from her.

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[Edited 7/25/12 16:19pm]

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Reply #1043 posted 07/25/12 4:19pm

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I hate to say it but I don't see how each of these kids won't end up really, really fucked up. The family, the greed, the lawyers, music companies all of them and lets not leave out US, the viewing public who have to take a little responsibility for this whole culture of celebrity.

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Reply #1044 posted 07/25/12 4:20pm

mjscarousal

bboy87 said:

mjscarousal said:

We dont know for certain if Janet really said that... TMZ spinned that story... did you exactly HEAR the audio?

Paris already said she wasn't slapped, why are they still reporting it?

Well you know how it goes anything Jackson the Jacksons are not darlins of the media so they will eat it up for all its worth...

This isnt a good look for Janet but at least the public can see she isnt a perfect Jackson neither.

This is about money... I feel sorry for those children!

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Reply #1045 posted 07/25/12 4:21pm

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Same here.

SoulAlive said:

poor Katherine neutral it's gotta be shocking for her to come home and find that her grandchildren have been taken away from her.




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[Edited 7/25/12 16:19pm]

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Reply #1046 posted 07/25/12 4:21pm

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Again.. WHY would it be necessary for TJ to take guardianship of the children away from my mother when they were already in his care?

Put the keyboard down and just walk away.

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Reply #1047 posted 07/25/12 4:22pm

Azz

TMZ lied about Janet slapping Paris. Paris publicly confirmed this. Yet fans continue to quote TMZ info as reliable. Why? Really weird.

Good point. Same fans who abused TJ for calling out the Cascio tracks are now kissing his ass. No consistency at all.

Yes, they also hate 3T for stating that songs were fake. Treated them horribly...but not now. They flip a switch real quick

My guess is that they like whatever source that justifies their hate towards certain members of the Jackson family.

Exactly. Duke was hated by the fans for his prior MJ coverage but now they all love him for some reason. Very weird.

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Reply #1048 posted 07/25/12 4:24pm

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eek

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Reply #1049 posted 07/25/12 4:25pm

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NaughtyKitty said:

Exclusive: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'

In an exclusive interview with ABC News, Katherine Jackson said she is "devastated" her grandchildren have been "taken away" from her and she's returning to Los Angeles to be reunited with them today.

"I am devastated that while I've been away, my grandchildren have been taken away from me, and I'm coming home," she said.

The 82-year-old Jackson family matriarch also addressed rumors concerning her whereabouts.

"There are rumors going around about me that I have been kidnapped," she said. "I am here today to let everybody to know that I am good and fine."

"My children would never do anything to me like that," she added.

Katherine Jackson said today's court ruling that made TJ Jackson the temporary guardian of Paris Michael, Prince Michael, and Prince Michael II was "based on a bunch of lies." She explained that her stay in Arizona at the Miraval Resort & Spa was a "short vacation and rest."

As for not calling her grandchildren for days, Katherine Jackson said, "One reason I didn't call is I just gave up my phone and I didn't want to have any phone calls while I was here."

Check back with ABCNews.com for Katherine Jackson's full statement, and watch her statement tonight on "Nightline."

http://abcnews.go.com/Ent...BB9VqOrFn4

Yes, Katherine is back to speak the truth.

Brace yourselves to be shamed.

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