klick2me said:

dm3857 said:

c'mon now... this is ridiculous. michael was not satanic. saying michael got his talents with a deal from satan is absolutly RIDICULOUS! michaels talents were a gift from GOD! i mean come on! are people really that dumb! michael has been singing and dancing since he was 5! you mean to tell me that michael made a deal with satan when he was a child?

that is a dumb post.

I never said MJ made a deal with Satan at a young age nor did the video say that. That would be ridiculous, I agree. However, Thriller took off when MJ was in his twenties so it was possible he made one then. God created MJ and gave him a voice like no other. But like every other human he gave him free will. The devil is real and people can make deals with him. This is not a boast but I have seen the power of Jesus enough so that I believe this young girls testimony. I have seen people healed, delivered and saved! One day we will all stand before the Lord and give an account for our every idle words. To say this post is dumb is actually an ignorant statement. Search the scriptures with a true heart and God will show you his truth. klick

But if Michael Jackson made deals with the devil (and i can't believe that i'm actually discussing this thing) why did he always cite God as his source of talend. He always claimed that God gave him his talend and without God he wouldn't have been who he was.He claimed this all the time till his final days. Pretty strange for a person who made deals with Satans or Budhas or Allahs.

Now, i think that there are other more important things out there for us to worry than MJ making deals with people or spirits. Worry about your own soul and leave the others in peace, to live their life as their wish. And by the way, if there is trully a paradise or the nice places that the various religions claim to be after death, then Jackson is surelly in one of them. I mean, it's only fair after all the good deeds he made in his life.

I don't think that girl in the video is going to ever see the gates of paradise though.

I would take the subway either after school or during lunch and study break periods to go buy his albums or singles, there used to be an amazing music store that had imports from everywhere, but they closed down.

crazymouse said:

klick2me said:

dm3857 said: I never said MJ made a deal with Satan at a young age nor did the video say that. That would be ridiculous, I agree. However, Thriller took off when MJ was in his twenties so it was possible he made one then. God created MJ and gave him a voice like no other. But like every other human he gave him free will. The devil is real and people can make deals with him. This is not a boast but I have seen the power of Jesus enough so that I believe this young girls testimony. I have seen people healed, delivered and saved! One day we will all stand before the Lord and give an account for our every idle words. To say this post is dumb is actually an ignorant statement. Search the scriptures with a true heart and God will show you his truth. klick

But if Michael Jackson made deals with the devil (and i can't believe that i'm actually discussing this thing) why did he always cite God as his source of talend. He always claimed that God gave him his talend and without God he wouldn't have been who he was.He claimed this all the time till his final days. Pretty strange for a person who made deals with Satans or Budhas or Allahs.

Now, i think that there are other more important things out there for us to worry than MJ making deals with people or spirits. Worry about your own soul and leave the others in peace, to live their life as their wish. And by the way, if there is trully a paradise or the nice places that the various religions claim to be after death, then Jackson is surelly in one of them. I mean, it's only fair after all the good deeds he made in his life.

I don't think that girl in the video is going to ever see the gates of paradise though.

I'm not saint for saying this either, but I never clicked on the video though her expression is enough to make me want to slap her so hard that her teeth will go flying. I think people who think like she does overall think they are better than everyone else and like entering paradise is like competition and that she is in the right and others who don't believe as she does are in the wrong and it's childish, black and white thinking.

have any of you read the book 'Michael Jackson:Sex, Drugs, and Rock and Roll' by Joe Bensam

im looking for another mj book to read, and i was reading the reviews and not really getting anywhere,.

some say it was wonderful, some say dont waste your money, some say it shows how unique mj was, some say its just plain out terrible..

so im wondering if any of you have read it, if so, would you recomend it?

thanks!

dm3857 said:

dm3857 said:

have any of you read the book 'Michael Jackson:Sex, Drugs, and Rock and Roll' by Joe Bensam

im looking for another mj book to read, and i was reading the reviews and not really getting anywhere,.

some say it was wonderful, some say dont waste your money, some say it shows how unique mj was, some say its just plain out terrible..

so im wondering if any of you have read it, if so, would you recomend it?

thanks!

which books have you read? I'm planning on reading Jermaine and now Frank Cascio's books soon

bboy87 said:

dm3857 said:

have any of you read the book 'Michael Jackson:Sex, Drugs, and Rock and Roll' by Joe Bensam

im looking for another mj book to read, and i was reading the reviews and not really getting anywhere,.

some say it was wonderful, some say dont waste your money, some say it shows how unique mj was, some say its just plain out terrible..

so im wondering if any of you have read it, if so, would you recomend it?

thanks!

which books have you read? I'm planning on reading Jermaine and now Frank Cascio's books soon

i have read moonwalker,the michael jackson tapes,jermaines book,man in the music,and am curently reading frank cascios book.

im intrested in 2 books "Michael Jackson Conspiracy" by Aphrodite Jones. and "redemption" by Geraldine Hughes.

both books are about the child molestion charges, and proving his innocence..

i was only 8 in 03 when the trial was going on and am not very educated on it.. of coarse i know michael was innocent, but whenever i have the "michael jackson was guilty" arguement, i would like to be able to throw facts in their face to prove he was innocent..

if anyone has read these books. do you recomend them?

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klick2me said:

dm3857 said:

c'mon now... this is ridiculous. michael was not satanic. saying michael got his talents with a deal from satan is absolutly RIDICULOUS! michaels talents were a gift from GOD! i mean come on! are people really that dumb! michael has been singing and dancing since he was 5! you mean to tell me that michael made a deal with satan when he was a child?

that is a dumb post.

I never said MJ made a deal with Satan at a young age nor did the video say that. That would be ridiculous, I agree. However, Thriller took off when MJ was in his twenties so it was possible he made one then. God created MJ and gave him a voice like no other. But like every other human he gave him free will. The devil is real and people can make deals with him. This is not a boast but I have seen the power of Jesus enough so that I believe this young girls testimony. I have seen people healed, delivered and saved! One day we will all stand before the Lord and give an account for our every idle words. To say this post is dumb is actually an ignorant statement. Search the scriptures with a true heart and God will show you his truth. klick

What a load of... ok, whatever.

Ok, the "devil" can in no way influence the success of a f*cking pop album.

Phishanga said:

Ok, the "devil" can in no way influence the success of a f*cking pop album.

The devil don't have that type of power. People trippin'.

The bible also says we can't shave on Saturdays... lol

But hey believe what you want... I always believed hell was right here on earth. But so is heaven in a way.

Whatever.

Listening to Thriller, reminiscing on June 25, 2009, and my eyes are getting watery.

Sigh.

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smoothcriminal12 said:

Listening to Thriller, reminiscing on June 25, 2009, and my eyes are getting watery (is that a word?).

Sigh.

[Edited 2/11/12 16:03pm]

Still seems unreal Michael's gone, huh?

klick2me said:

WAS MICHAEL JACKSON SATANIC? IS HE IN HELL NOW?

Please watch the entire video to get the full effect. If not, you can fast foward to 54 minutes and 40 seconds to hear this young girl's testamony about hell and MJ.

klick

FUCK this insensitive shit and religious dogma.

Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Listening to Thriller, reminiscing on June 25, 2009, and my eyes are getting watery (is that a word?).

Sigh.

[Edited 2/11/12 16:03pm]

Still seems unreal Michael's gone, huh?

It still hurts. He's the reason why I started loving music. I remember the day he was gon, it was so surreal. I just remember listneing to the radio and hearing Man In The Mirror and just breaking down.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Timmy84 said:

Still seems unreal Michael's gone, huh?

It still hurts. He's the reason why I started loving music. I remember the day he was gon, it was so surreal. I just remember listneing to the radio and hearing Man In The Mirror and just breaking down.

I know how you feel mayne.

Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

It still hurts. He's the reason why I started loving music. I remember the day he was gon, it was so surreal. I just remember listneing to the radio and hearing Man In The Mirror and just breaking down.

I know how you feel mayne.

Thanks Tim.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Timmy84 said:

I know how you feel mayne.

Thanks Tim.

klick2me said:

If you don't agree with what I say I will respect that. Just don't put me down or those who believe in the word of God. Because that is childish talk and not cool.

And religious beliefs, especially those regarding Christianity, are insulted and/or rebuked A LOT around here now.

klick2me said:

alphastreet said:

I'm not saint for saying this either, but I never clicked on the video though her expression is enough to make me want to slap her so hard that her teeth will go flying. I think people who think like she does overall think they are better than everyone else and like entering paradise is like competition and that she is in the right and others who don't believe as she does are in the wrong and it's childish, black and white thinking.

Ok, I never meant to try and prove Gods word by posting what I did; MJ claimed his talent came from God. I believe it did. But the bible clearly states that Satan is the father of lies. The devil himself can disguise himself as an angel of light. Is it so hard to believe that MJ lied? Why would he come straight out and say, "I made a deal with Satan"? Also, people don't make it to heaven by doing good in life. Being a good person is not the way to heaven. That is a lie of the devil. The bible says the way to the Father which is in heaven is thru Jesus and him only. When you are born from your mother you are born from the flesh. The flesh can not comprehend the spirit. You must be born of the spirit in order to understand the things of the spirit. I am not worried about if MJ made a deal. And I'm not worried about my soul because I cast all my cares to Jesus. You say to leave you to your peace but did I ever disrupt it? I am concerned for your soul because hell is real. You are not denying me or my words, you are denying Jesus. And one day you will answer to him about that. If you have not seen the video how can you judge if it's correct? This girl never once said she was better or that anyone was wrong and she was right. Her faith is something special to her and it's not a religion. I would encourage all of you to search the scriptures before commenting in such a fashion. Too many people think MJ could do no wrong. His friend Frank C. said himself that MJ sought out psychics and that's a big no, no! That in its self is satanic. Don't get me wrong, I loved MJ so much. I followed him ever since I was a young kid. But I have seen the power of God and know His word. And what this girl says aside from MJ and hell, it is what I have experienced or been taught. I know Jesus is real because he has shown himself to me. Many times over. And yes, as a result I have given up MJ and his music. If you don't agree with what I say I will respect that. Just don't put me down or those who believe in the word of God. Because that is childish talk and not cool. klick

Like I said, check out what Michael said about his relationship with Jesus in the book I linked

Just like you believe Michael may have made a deal with Satan and lied about it, I believe different

Frank Cascio along with a lot of people have said many things since Michael's passed

Michael was raised as a Jevohah's Witness. He left the JW church in 1987. He spent time around priests, rabbis, and other religious teachers to get a better understanding of faiths and religions when he got older, but he constantly said he believed in Jesus

I respect your opinion but I disagree

dm3857 said:

im intrested in 2 books "Michael Jackson Conspiracy" by Aphrodite Jones. and "redemption" by Geraldine Hughes.

both books are about the child molestion charges, and proving his innocence..

i was only 8 in 03 when the trial was going on and am not very educated on it.. of coarse i know michael was innocent, but whenever i have the "michael jackson was guilty" arguement, i would like to be able to throw facts in their face to prove he was innocent..

if anyone has read these books. do you recomend them?

[Edited 2/11/12 15:08pm]

I've heard Conspiracy is pretty good. Redemption has gotten good reviews but I haven't read it yet

Didn't really like these 2 songs until a couple of years ago

bboy87 said:

klick2me said:

alphastreet said: Ok, I never meant to try and prove Gods word by posting what I did; MJ claimed his talent came from God. I believe it did. But the bible clearly states that Satan is the father of lies. The devil himself can disguise himself as an angel of light. Is it so hard to believe that MJ lied? Why would he come straight out and say, "I made a deal with Satan"? Also, people don't make it to heaven by doing good in life. Being a good person is not the way to heaven. That is a lie of the devil. The bible says the way to the Father which is in heaven is thru Jesus and him only. When you are born from your mother you are born from the flesh. The flesh can not comprehend the spirit. You must be born of the spirit in order to understand the things of the spirit. I am not worried about if MJ made a deal. And I'm not worried about my soul because I cast all my cares to Jesus. You say to leave you to your peace but did I ever disrupt it? I am concerned for your soul because hell is real. You are not denying me or my words, you are denying Jesus. And one day you will answer to him about that. If you have not seen the video how can you judge if it's correct? This girl never once said she was better or that anyone was wrong and she was right. Her faith is something special to her and it's not a religion. I would encourage all of you to search the scriptures before commenting in such a fashion. Too many people think MJ could do no wrong. His friend Frank C. said himself that MJ sought out psychics and that's a big no, no! That in its self is satanic. Don't get me wrong, I loved MJ so much. I followed him ever since I was a young kid. But I have seen the power of God and know His word. And what this girl says aside from MJ and hell, it is what I have experienced or been taught. I know Jesus is real because he has shown himself to me. Many times over. And yes, as a result I have given up MJ and his music. If you don't agree with what I say I will respect that. Just don't put me down or those who believe in the word of God. Because that is childish talk and not cool. klick

Like I said, check out what Michael said about his relationship with Jesus in the book I linked

Just like you believe Michael may have made a deal with Satan and lied about it, I believe different

Frank Cascio along with a lot of people have said many things since Michael's passed

Michael was raised as a Jevohah's Witness. He left the JW church in 1987. He spent time around priests, rabbis, and other religious teachers to get a better understanding of faiths and religions when he got older, but he constantly said he believed in Jesus

I respect your opinion but I disagree

I agree. Michael was spiritual and religious until he died. He had God in his heart.

bboy87 said:

bboy87 said:

Didn't really like these 2 songs until a couple of years ago

Ive always loved this... unappreciated chorus... And I love how Michaels doing the spoken word/rap for the versuses instead of singing