bboy87 said:

We have 7 months to see what Epic and the estate is going to do for the 25th anniversary of Bad....

hopefully it won't be a failure

Hopefully and I think Justin is just saying he doesn't want to be forgotten not that he's going to be Michael. That's how I took it. Kid get's a lot of hate tbh.

babybugz said:

bboy87 said:

We have 7 months to see what Epic and the estate is going to do for the 25th anniversary of Bad....

hopefully it won't be a failure

Hopefully and I think Justin is just saying he doesn't want to be forgotten not that he's going to be Michael. That's how I took it. Kid get's a lot of hate tbh.

It's easy to be forgotten than remembered. If he really wanna learn from Michael, he has to study how Michael survived this industry. It's not easy.

Timmy84 said:

babybugz said:

Hopefully and I think Justin is just saying he doesn't want to be forgotten not that he's going to be Michael. That's how I took it. Kid get's a lot of hate tbh.

It's easy to be forgotten than remembered. If he really wanna learn from Michael, he has to study how Michael survived this industry. It's not easy.

That’s what he said. He said he wanted to be at his level/ I have a lot of work to do. It’s just that they both started at young ages and is influence by how long Michael stayed out. As soon as people say next MJ etc people go crazy half of the time these artists are not saying they want to be him just the career that he had it's the media that put that title.

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

It's easy to be forgotten than remembered. If he really wanna learn from Michael, he has to study how Michael survived this industry. It's not easy.

That’s what he said. He said he wanted to be at his level/ I have a lot of work to do. It’s just that they both started at young ages and is influence by how long Michael stayed out. As soon as people say next MJ etc people go crazy half of the time these artists are not saying they want to be him just the career that he had it's the media that put that title.

if justin really wanted to learn from michael he would take michaels advice.. meaning michael has always said "dont be just another can on the assembly line" "CREATE" "INNOVATE" ..

and thats not something that he does.. yes hes only 18, but that exactly it.. HES ONLY 18, he needs to focuse on staying in the industry after his teenage years before hes worried about his career when he is 30..

and the thing that ticks me off.. is that he goes on stage..attempts ALL of michaels moves.. he wears fingure tape like michael, and you have people that are amazed by it... its aggravating.

dm3857 said:

babybugz said:

That’s what he said. He said he wanted to be at his level/ I have a lot of work to do. It’s just that they both started at young ages and is influence by how long Michael stayed out. As soon as people say next MJ etc people go crazy half of the time these artists are not saying they want to be him just the career that he had it's the media that put that title.

if justin really wanted to learn from michael he would take michaels advice.. meaning michael has always said "dont be just another can on the assembly line" "CREATE" "INNOVATE" ..

and thats not something that he does.. yes hes only 18, but that exactly it.. HES ONLY 18, he needs to focuse on staying in the industry after his teenage years before hes worried about his career when he is 30..

and the thing that ticks me off.. is that he goes on stage..attempts ALL of michaels moves.. he wears fingure tape like michael, and you have people that are amazed by it... its aggravating.

Maybe I’m a weird Michael fan or just can care less that’s honestly never bothered me from any of these artists. Clearly a lot of these people are influence by Michael and even Michael himself were fans of these people that most of the fans can’t stand so it’s whatever to me. It’s a compliment ...I prefer the artists that copied/influence by him then the media that turned on/turned back again to Michael.

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

It's easy to be forgotten than remembered. If he really wanna learn from Michael, he has to study how Michael survived this industry. It's not easy.

That’s what he said. He said he wanted to be at his level/ I have a lot of work to do. It’s just that they both started at young ages and is influence by how long Michael stayed out. As soon as people say next MJ etc people go crazy half of the time these artists are not saying they want to be him just the career that he had it's the media that put that title.

Least he didn't say something as incredulous as Usher. What Usher said about being "the next Mike" and what the media wrote wasn't so different. Of course, they'll take Justin's words and make it seem like he said "I wanna be like Mike". And whenever someone doesn't get over that hump so to speak, the media basically hit them like pinatas like "he was so close but no cigar to Mike". You know how the media can use other's words to attack them.

1-Times have changed , the age of download through the internet will make it impossible for any artist to reach MJ's level , it's over!

2- you need timeless great music to be memorable and not forgotten , JB is creating horrible lifeless music .....oh lawd

JB= Just Bullshit

Ok, I know he loves and respect MJ , but i'm not going to be hypocrite and compliment him just because of the fact that he likes MJ , I just cannot stomach that child's voice , MJ had a rare voice , a raw talent , JB is not .

Timmy84 said:

babybugz said:

That’s what he said. He said he wanted to be at his level/ I have a lot of work to do. It’s just that they both started at young ages and is influence by how long Michael stayed out. As soon as people say next MJ etc people go crazy half of the time these artists are not saying they want to be him just the career that he had it's the media that put that title.

Least he didn't say something as incredulous as Usher. What Usher said about being "the next Mike" and what the media wrote wasn't so different. Of course, they'll take Justin's words and make it seem like he said "I wanna be like Mike". And whenever someone doesn't get over that hump so to speak, the media basically hit them like pinatas like "he was so close but no cigar to Mike". You know how the media can use other's words to attack them.

Both cannot reach MJ , I don't know when they goimg to realize that it's not going to happen

Timmy84 said:

babybugz said:

That’s what he said. He said he wanted to be at his level/ I have a lot of work to do. It’s just that they both started at young ages and is influence by how long Michael stayed out. As soon as people say next MJ etc people go crazy half of the time these artists are not saying they want to be him just the career that he had it's the media that put that title.

Least he didn't say something as incredulous as Usher. What Usher said about being "the next Mike" and what the media wrote wasn't so different. Of course, they'll take Justin's words and make it seem like he said "I wanna be like Mike". And whenever someone doesn't get over that hump so to speak, the media basically hit them like pinatas like "he was so close but no cigar to Mike". You know how the media can use other's words to attack them.

It's true. Its fine if you're not a fan but don’t put words in people mouths. Anybody a MJ fan is cool with me anyway so fuck it lol.

But in general some of the fans just quick to jump when someone admires Michael’s career it’s not that serious damn lmao.

babybugz said:

But in general some of the fans just quick to jump when someone admires Michael’s career it’s not that serious damn lmao.

True. They'll never get to his level artistically or creatively but it's admirable that he inspired all of them.

babybugz said:

dm3857 said:

if justin really wanted to learn from michael he would take michaels advice.. meaning michael has always said "dont be just another can on the assembly line" "CREATE" "INNOVATE" ..

and thats not something that he does.. yes hes only 18, but that exactly it.. HES ONLY 18, he needs to focuse on staying in the industry after his teenage years before hes worried about his career when he is 30..

and the thing that ticks me off.. is that he goes on stage..attempts ALL of michaels moves.. he wears fingure tape like michael, and you have people that are amazed by it... its aggravating.

Maybe I’m a weird Michael fan or just can care less that’s honestly never bothered me from any of these artists. Clearly a lot of these people are influence by Michael and even Michael himself were fans of these people that most of the fans can’t stand so it’s whatever to me. It’s a compliment ...I prefer the artists that copied/influence by him then the media that turned on/turned back again to Michael.

it doesnt bother me that these artist are inspired and influenced by michael, i love that michael has been able to inspire the world.. as a musician and performer michael is my biggest influence.

thats not what makes me mad.. its the fact that they toss michaels name back and forth like its nothing...

"im going to be the next michael jackson" "NO I AM" "he/she will be the next mj"

its like.. no your not?

michael jackson was michael jackson because he was different than any other artist.. theres only one..

and they toss his name around like its an easy title to earn...

In his book Frank claims that Michael was atttracted to bookish, simple girls - sexy nerds he called them.

Swa said:

In his book Frank claims that Michael was atttracted to bookish, simple girls - sexy nerds he called them.

Every time I read info like that, especially the more detailed description of Michael's type in the Rabbi Shmuley's book, I'm saddened just a little bit.

WaterInYourBath said:

Swa said:

In his book Frank claims that Michael was atttracted to bookish, simple girls - sexy nerds he called them.

Every time I read info like that, especially the more detailed description of Michael's type in the Rabbi Shmuley's book, I'm saddened just a little bit.

Why? What exactly do you mean?

Well, it would be nice to believe that Mike has found someone towards the end of his life as Frank claimed cause I think that's what he needed the most. And even though in the Shmuley book, he said something in the regard that it wasn't the most important thing to him, I think he needed it. He needed to have someone who would take care of him with love and just be there for him and I would sure love to take care of him. And of course, I would be jealous of that person whoever that would be, but I still wish he had someone like that.

Swa said:

In his book Frank claims that Michael was atttracted to bookish, simple girls - sexy nerds he called them.

Hehehehe....

I got what that man needs...

And for all the fangirls on here who feel slightly jealous of the women in MJ's life, Michael was never lacking female companionship. What he lacked was female companionship WITH MEANING.

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

Swa said:

In his book Frank claims that Michael was atttracted to bookish, simple girls - sexy nerds he called them.

Hehehehe....

I got what that man needs...

And for all the fangirls on here who feel slightly jealous of the women in MJ's life, Michael was never lacking female companionship. What he lacked was female companionship WITH MEANING.

That's what I meant.

Did anyone get a chance to view the video of Bruce and Michael in the studio recording "Will You Be There"?! It was uploaded about a week ago and was about 20 seconds long but Youtube snatched that shit down with the quickness! I believe they were mixing it.

Oh hell yeah!

And I missed the video

dag said:

WaterInYourBath said:

Every time I read info like that, especially the more detailed description of Michael's type in the Rabbi Shmuley's book, I'm saddened just a little bit.

Why? What exactly do you mean?

Well, it would be nice to believe that Mike has found someone towards the end of his life as Frank claimed cause I think that's what he needed the most. And even though in the Shmuley book, he said something in the regard that it wasn't the most important thing to him, I think he needed it. He needed to have someone who would take care of him with love and just be there for him and I would sure love to take care of him. And of course, I would be jealous of that person whoever that would be, but I still wish he had someone like that.

'Cause now I know I'm his type, at least mentally. And he's always definitely been my type, so....

Michael Jackson And Elvis: In Vegas, Two Kings Rise And Fall

On the surface, MGM’s Aria Resort & Casino in Las Vegas seems fit for a king. Designed by famed architect Cesar Pelli, the gleaming, glassy complex is one of the newest on the strip, boasting 4,000 guest rooms, 16 restaurants, 10 bars, a full-service salon, barbershop, fitness center and spa, as well as a specially-designed 1,800-seat theater devoted to Cirque du Soleil’s show, Viva Elvis.

The show was meant to be a major anchor for the Aria. But on a recent visit to Vegas, the grand halls hosted only a trickle of tourists, its floors populated by a patchwork of gamblers. Days later, MGM officially asked Cirque to shutter sparsely-attended Viva Elvis by the end of 2012.

“The Elvis show never seemed to resonate here,” says Jonathan Shecter, a Las Vegas music and talent programmer. “[And] because this property was a bust, Elvis … couldn’t sustain itself. There wasn’t enough business here to support it.”

Meanwhile, the fortunes of another king are on the rise in Sin City. The Michael Jackson Immortal World Tour parked itself at the Mandalay Bay Events Center for the bulk of December. The show, a joint venture between Cirque du Soleil and the Jackson estate, was accompanied by the Michael Jackson Fan Fest—an exhibition featuring the some of the superstar’s most notable accoutrements, including his sequined white glove, his military-inspired jackets and a “Smooth Criminal”-inspired saloon.

From taxi-tops sporting Immortal’s logo to hotel keycards emblazoned with Jackson’s image, the show was both unavoidable and massively successful, bringing in an average of about $2 million per night in Vegas. During the second week of December, that sum was half a million dollars more than the next highest-earning live show, Taylor Swift’s tour, according to concert data provider Pollstar.

The fact that Immortal managed to either sell out or nearly fill the 8,500-seat Mandalay Bay Events Center every night—while Viva Elvis struggled to attract crowds a quarter that size—speaks volumes to the shifting fortunes of The King of Rock and Roll and The King of Pop. Michael Jackson’s estate has raked in over $400 million over the past two years; Elvis’s has taken in just over $100 million by FORBES’ count.

To be sure, there have been a few factors working against Elvis and his Cirque show. The Aria and its theater were built as centerpieces of a development called CityCenter, a 76-acre project created as a joint venture between MGM and Dubai World that opened during the worst days of the recession in 2009 and never emerged as the high-end destination it was supposed to be.

“It was one of the last high rise projects built,” says Las Vegas real estate broker Bruce Hiatt. “Prices were high when CityCenter began sales while the real estate bubble burst. That put CityCenter in a tough position to be successful with buyers running for the exits across the USA.”

Location of Viva Elvis aside, one reason The King’s star seems to be fading in comparison to Jackson’s is, quite simply, that he’s been gone much longer. There just aren’t that many people left who can associate youthful moments and experiences with Elvis and his music.

The same can’t be said for Jackson’s songs, which remain very popular with those in their twenties, thirties and beyond. One need only look at the influential entertainers who attended “Immortal” (the night I was there, the list included Jay-Z, Beyoncé and Cee-Lo Green) for confirmation.

“The face of Vegas is now twenty-something and thirty-something people who want something hip and fun, something they can relate to,” says Shecter. “I think Michael connects more with that audience than Elvis does.”

Even as “Viva Elvis” prepares to take its final bow, plans are already in the works to renovate MGM’s Mandalay Bay Theatre, which currently houses the Lion King, to accommodate a modified version of Immortal in time for a 2013 opening.

If the show’s December run is any indication, it should be a bonanza for MGM, Cirque du Soleil and the Jackson estate—and another sign that Elvis’s star may have already been eclipsed by Michael Jackson’s, in Las Vegas and beyond.

For more on the business of music, see my bookEmpire State of Mind: How...ner Office and follow me on Twitter.

http://www.forbes.com/sit...-and-fall/

Props for Biebs for having at least a gameplan and goals for the future but I don't see he or many of his contemporaries having long term success

Swa said:

In his book Frank claims that Michael was atttracted to bookish, simple girls - sexy nerds he called them.

Well, to me, it seemed like MJ was a bit of a geek/nerd himself (video games, superhero comics, Star Wars, history buff...). He probably needed a woman was like minded or shared the same interests. Actually, having friends, in general, who are like minded also helps so you don't feel so alone.

ViintageJunkiie said:

Did anyone get a chance to view the video of Bruce and Michael in the studio recording "Will You Be There"?! It was uploaded about a week ago and was about 20 seconds long but Youtube snatched that shit down with the quickness! I believe they were mixing it.

I have¨n't seen it and I also know nothing about it. Let me know when it appears there again.

NaughtyKitty said:

mjforever said:

NaughtyKitty said:

I know right?

NaughtyKitty said:

mjforever said:

I know right?

damn!!

Unholyalliance said:

Swa said:

In his book Frank claims that Michael was atttracted to bookish, simple girls - sexy nerds he called them.

Well, to me, it seemed like MJ was a bit of a geek/nerd himself (video games, superhero comics, Star Wars, history buff...). He probably needed a woman was like minded or shared the same interests. Actually, having friends, in general, who are like minded also helps so you don't feel so alone.

That's why I gravitated to him as a kid, I was always the nerdy and geeky one, and right now, the quirky and sometimes eccentric one not right away, but yeah, it eventually happened cause I saw so much of myself in him and still do a lot of times today though I have my own identity. And all you have to do is look at those knitted sweaters he wore in the Bad era...but he really rocked them awwww