Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:

That's still a disgusting thing to say

Nobody is making excuses for them and their actions. Everyone knows the family has made bad decisions

Joe is a piece of shit, we know that and everyone acknowledges that, but Katherine are raising those kids and they seem to be just fine where they are. They're going to school, they have friends, they spend time with their family. The sooner they're out of the kids lives? Then who's gonna look out for them? Debbie? Diana Ross?

Do we know the full story? Probably not and we definitely won't get it from tabloids. The only thing we can do is hope for the best for the kids

That's really it. I can't even trust stories I read on the family no more because you don't know what their motives are. Even reading Margaret's book I get a headache from the information.

Exactly. I just listen to their music now and keep it moving. I'm actually listening to Triumph as I type this and not a fuck is given lol.

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

That's really it. I can't even trust stories I read on the family no more because you don't know what their motives are. Even reading Margaret's book I get a headache from the information.

Exactly. I just listen to their music now and keep it moving. I'm actually listening to Triumph as I type this and not a fuck is given lol.

Yeah people trippin'...

Ya'll know you would've been RIGHT AT the gates

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bboy87 said:

Ya'll know you would've been RIGHT AT the gates

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No but aww that he named the train after his mother. He was such a mama's boy

kibbles said:

i cannot wait for the day that joe and kat are gone from this earth.

I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy, not to even mention people I have absolutely no personal connection with. You do you, you'll have your own Karma to deal with, but I think that's a horrible thing to say. I wouldn't even wish that on YOU for saying it. There are many other ways to express your dislike for someone without wishing death upon them. Someone on this earth loves those two people (...in Joe's case - to whatever degree), just imagine how you'd feel if someone wished death upon someone YOU loved.

The BBC radio interview 1979 of Michael and George Harrison

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finally surfaced online

bboy87 said:

Ya'll know you would've been RIGHT AT the gates

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I ain't ashamed! I'da been right THERE!

And awww he did name the train after his mom. What a good kid...

Funny how that fan jumped on. Michael was holding on him for dear life. You can tell

he was lip syncing, but he wasn't going to let one crazy fan disturb his performance.

My other favorite Mike moment on stage was when it was raining and he was showing

the crew how it was so slippery because he almost slip. His facial expressions cleary

shows he was not too happy, cute when mad It was so funny to see them rushing trying

to wipe it up. lol

babybugz said:

kibbles said:

http://www.dailymail.co.u...dhood.html

i think this link is appropriate to go with this pix. i don't usually read stuff about the kids, as i stated before out of respect for mj, but when i saw the title i was intrigued.

i cannot wait for the day that joe and kat are gone from this earth. there are few more reprehensible people, and if their other children had any decency, they would go to court and wrest guardianship away from them.

on edit: i mean, really. these ***holes sat in court while the pros played that tape of their dead son, STILL lamenting the pain of his lost childhood at 50 years old! what kind of evil, greedy, lowlifes do you have to be to listen to that hurt and pain, knowing you had a hand in it, and then turn around and sell out his children??? omg. and your other lowlife children who have the power to stop it - i'm looking at janet as well as all the other mofos like jermaine - just sit by and do NOTHING. i'm just really sick to my stomach and really, really, really sad for these kids. <rant over>

[Edited 12/16/11 15:09pm]

What? I didn't even read the rest .. a reason why I had to leave Michael's fandom sadly. smh

Just wanted to say that just because SOME Michael fans say some crazy and over-the-top shit doesn't mean that ALL Michael fans are like that. It really pisses the hell out of me that people put all MJ fans in the same category. IMO, that is no reason to "leave" Michael Jackson fandom. If I were to go by what some MJ fans say, I wouldn't be a fan. Of course, I don't go by what ANYONE says, I make up my own mind. Btw, I am not angry with you;however, I just wanted comment because I have heard others on this org say similiar things. Don't judge ALL fans by what SOME say or base your fandom on FANS. I am a fan of Michael Jackson. Other fans don't determine my fandom.

^ Sometimes one or two apples can spoil a bunch. There are fans and then there are stans but that's for another topic...

babybugz said:

kibbles said:

http://www.dailymail.co.u...dhood.html

i think this link is appropriate to go with this pix. i don't usually read stuff about the kids, as i stated before out of respect for mj, but when i saw the title i was intrigued.

i cannot wait for the day that joe and kat are gone from this earth. there are few more reprehensible people, and if their other children had any decency, they would go to court and wrest guardianship away from them.

on edit: i mean, really. these ***holes sat in court while the pros played that tape of their dead son, STILL lamenting the pain of his lost childhood at 50 years old! what kind of evil, greedy, lowlifes do you have to be to listen to that hurt and pain, knowing you had a hand in it, and then turn around and sell out his children??? omg. and your other lowlife children who have the power to stop it - i'm looking at janet as well as all the other mofos like jermaine - just sit by and do NOTHING. i'm just really sick to my stomach and really, really, really sad for these kids. <rant over>

[Edited 12/16/11 15:09pm]

What? I didn't even read the rest .. a reason why I had to leave Michael's fandom sadly. smh

I know. And if you don't think the way they do your not a "real fan".

Timmy84 said:

^ Sometimes one or two apples can spoil a bunch. There are fans and then there are stans but that's for another topic...

It would almost appear as if some of them feel it's their moral duty to fight Michael Jackson's battles for him, or to challenge what they would assume to have been his demons, as if in some way this will fix something that's gone wrong in their own lives, or perhaps otherwise bring them closer to Michael. Although I suppose this type of behavior or mindset would go toward the true essence of the word "fanaticism". Personally speaking, I would never allow my admiration of anyone to ever go past a sincere appreciation of his or her art, philosophy, and/or aesthetics.

RosesRred said:

Funny how that fan jumped on. Michael was holding on him for dear life. You can tell

he was lip syncing, but he wasn't going to let one crazy fan disturb his performance.

Never saw this before. That was absolutely genius how Michael handled that, and sweet. I'm just thinking of what an "artist" like Akon would have done, lol.

The Jackson 5ive - Possible DVD Release for the 1971 Animated Rankin/Bass-Produced Series?

Look for the show to come home next year, according to one historian's blog

Posted by David Lambert
12/15/2011

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Jackson-5ive-DVD-Plans/16317

In 1971, animation producers Rankin/Bass put together the cartoon personifications of Michael, Marlon, Jermaine, Jackie and Tito with the ABC-aired Saturday morning show the Jackson 5ive. The half-hour program ran for 23 episodes, including a kick-off episode with Motown legend Diana Ross voicing herself. The actual Jacksons weren't part of the regular voice cast, though, as their busy musical schedules prevented it.

However, it's interesting to note that the voice actor who played Michael Jackson in this show, Donald Fullilove, is still active today (unlike most of his "brothers" in this show), and has been heard recently in American Dad!, Wall-E and Up. The group's musical producer in the show's adventures (a personification of Motown founder Berry Gordy), was played by Paul Frees...a voice well known in film and TV (including the original War of the Worlds, Steve Canyon, Mister Magoo, "Boris Badenov" inRocky & Bullwinkle & Friends, "Ignatz Mouse" in Krazy Kat, "Colossus" in Colossus: The Forbin Project , "narrator" of Hardware Wars, various characters in the animated productions The Hobbit, The Return of the King, and "K.A.R.R." in Knight Rider...he had also been the original Pillsbury Doughboy!). Other on-screen characters in the cartoon included Michael's pet mice, "Ray" and "Charles", and pet snake "Rosie".

Why the trip down memory lane? Well, nothing is official, and we're not even certain how accurate this is. NOT to cast doubts on the website who gets the credit for this info, or anything like that. It's just that during the past couple of years, especially as many of this sort of show come to DVD via manufacture on demand programs, and those programs often make plans to release an old show like this one, but then some sort of obstacle comes up and the title doesn't see the light of day. However, while we should take it with a grain of salt until the official studio announcement comes through (whenever that may be), we're pleased to pass along word from historian Rick Goldschmidt's "Enchanted World of Rankin/Bass" blog, posted there yesterday, that "RANKIN/BASS' THE JACKSON FIVE SHOW coming to DVD in 2012! " Our thanks to reader Phil Satterley for the heads-up! Stay tuned, of course, and we'll fill you in as further information becomes available to us.

Free2BMe said:

babybugz said:

What? I didn't even read the rest .. a reason why I had to leave Michael's fandom sadly. smh

Just wanted to say that just because SOME Michael fans say some crazy and over-the-top shit doesn't mean that ALL Michael fans are like that. It really pisses the hell out of me that people put all MJ fans in the same category. IMO, that is no reason to "leave" Michael Jackson fandom. If I were to go by what some MJ fans say, I wouldn't be a fan. Of course, I don't go by what ANYONE says, I make up my own mind. Btw, I am not angry with you;however, I just wanted comment because I have heard others on this org say similiar things. Don't judge ALL fans by what SOME say or base your fandom on FANS. I am a fan of Michael Jackson. Other fans don't determine my fandom.

I will judge however I want to judge I don’t care if you don’t agree. I been in this fandom too long to change my mind on it .There are some who are sane and the rest are crazy .But at the end of the day my only focus is Michael .His fan base don’t turn me off from him but discussing him with fans about the kids/jackson mess do. Who cares now just listen to the music.

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bboy87 said:

The BBC radio interview 1979 of Michael and George Harrison

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finally surfaced online

Is it on youtube?

babybugz said:

bboy87 said:

The BBC radio interview 1979 of Michael and George Harrison

[img:$uid]http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44027000/jpg/_44027801_jensen_bbc416.jpg[/img:$uid]

finally surfaced online

Is it on youtube?

I don't think so. I just got it but i'm gonna run it through Audacity to see if it can get a little clear

bboy87 said:

babybugz said:

Is it on youtube?

I don't think so. I just got it but i'm gonna run it through Audacity to see if it can get a little clear

Upload it if you can

As much as I love MJ's version, Sembello's original version of "Carousel" seems to slightly triumph MJ's

^^ In my opinion Carousel is a weak song to start with.

I'm glad it was scuttled from the Thriller line up, and MJ was smart not to revisit it.

Swa said:

^^ In my opinion Carousel is a weak song to start with.

I'm glad it was scuttled from the Thriller line up, and MJ was smart not to revisit it.

I definitely don't think it's a weak song, just wasn't fit for Thriller. Would've made a nice addition to an 80's teeny bopper film

babybugz said:

Free2BMe said:

Just wanted to say that just because SOME Michael fans say some crazy and over-the-top shit doesn't mean that ALL Michael fans are like that. It really pisses the hell out of me that people put all MJ fans in the same category. IMO, that is no reason to "leave" Michael Jackson fandom. If I were to go by what some MJ fans say, I wouldn't be a fan. Of course, I don't go by what ANYONE says, I make up my own mind. Btw, I am not angry with you;however, I just wanted comment because I have heard others on this org say similiar things. Don't judge ALL fans by what SOME say or base your fandom on FANS. I am a fan of Michael Jackson. Other fans don't determine my fandom.

I will judge however I want to judge I don’t care if you don’t agree. I been in this fandom too long to change my mind on it .There are some who are sane and the rest are crazy .But at the end of the day my only focus is Michael .His fan base don’t turn me off from him but discussing him with fans about the kids/jackson mess do. Who cares now just listen to the music.

[Edited 12/17/11 13:21pm]

You are right. You can judge whomever you want to and I can disagree with you if I want. I'm listening to the music.

[Edited 12/17/11 17:17pm]

ViintageJunkiie said:

Swa said:

^^ In my opinion Carousel is a weak song to start with.

I'm glad it was scuttled from the Thriller line up, and MJ was smart not to revisit it.

I definitely don't think it's a weak song, just wasn't fit for Thriller. Would've made a nice addition to an 80's teeny bopper film

I like it. I picture michael and his brother's singing this song lol.

babybugz said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

I definitely don't think it's a weak song, just wasn't fit for Thriller. Would've made a nice addition to an 80's teeny bopper film

I like it. I picture michael and his brother's singing this song lol.

I think it would have been cool on the Victory Lp.

CANUHELPME said:

babybugz said:

I like it. I picture michael and his brother's singing this song lol.

I think it would have been cool on the Victory Lp.

You think so?

I just don't find the record album material. It would make a nice b-side to something but definitley worth leaving on the cutting room floor.

ViintageJunkiie said:

Swa said:

^^ In my opinion Carousel is a weak song to start with.

I'm glad it was scuttled from the Thriller line up, and MJ was smart not to revisit it.

I definitely don't think it's a weak song, just wasn't fit for Thriller. Would've made a nice addition to an 80's teeny bopper film

Could've been on the Sixteen Candles soundtrack

Niteline could've been in Goonies!

bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

I definitely don't think it's a weak song, just wasn't fit for Thriller. Would've made a nice addition to an 80's teeny bopper film

Could've been on the Sixteen Candles soundtrack

Niteline could've been in Goonies!

Yep! Carousel could've been on "Pretty in Pink" or something like that...

ViintageJunkiie said:

bboy87 said:

Could've been on the Sixteen Candles soundtrack

Niteline could've been in Goonies!

Yep! Carousel could've been on "Pretty in Pink" or something like that...

^^^ Yes!!!!! That would've been special..

Swa said:

^^ In my opinion Carousel is a weak song to start with.

I'm glad it was scuttled from the Thriller line up, and MJ was smart not to revisit it.

I don't think Carousel is a weak song. I agree that it didn't fit the Thriller album line up.

PDogz said:

RosesRred said:

Funny how that fan jumped on. Michael was holding on him for dear life. You can tell

he was lip syncing, but he wasn't going to let one crazy fan disturb his performance.

Never saw this before. That was absolutely genius how Michael handled that, and sweet. I'm just thinking of what an "artist" like Akon would have done, lol.

I've watched this video so many times.

I think that was the perfect song for that to happen on.

I can't see him up there singing Billie Jean.

But one thing I noticed that he was also trying to put

his right leg around that kid's leg and also

trying to put his foot in front of his for support.

He was really trying hard to keep him safe .

Wow, all that and still trying to perform.

As for Akon ... he's a joke..

[Edited 12/18/11 6:32am]

CORRECTION: After viewing the video again

Michael was NOT trying to place

his leg or foot in front of the fan's leg

for the reason I stated above.

. Michael had his right leg already in that position

before the fan jumped on.

It looked as if MJ had to keep his foot placed there either

there was some type of pedal or button to either guide or keep it moving

or to keep him up there maybe when he moved his foot from it

thats when they lowered to the floor..

He was struggling hard to kieep his foot there even when he

was trying to turn to the side with the fan, he hurried up and

placed his left foot back to that same spot.

Just my observation and conclusion.

[Edited 12/21/11 5:19am]