Unholyalliance said:

Emancipation89 said:

^^^ Can't believe they were trying to pick one between Another Part of Me & Streetwalker. They're both great tracks. I mean...who needs Speed Demon or Liberian Girl?!

I do.

Me too.

Maybe this proves the best unreleased track from the BAD sessions was Streetwalker? Kind of tempers my hopes for the likes of Buffalo Bill, Tomboy and whatever else is in the vaults.

Militant said:

Unholyalliance said:

I do.

Me too.

Me three! Especially Liberian Girl which is a classic imo.

Derek1984 said:

Maybe this proves the best unreleased track from the BAD sessions was Streetwalker? Kind of tempers my hopes for the likes of Buffalo Bill, Tomboy and whatever else is in the vaults.

Well according to Bruce Swedien, there weren't many outtakes from the BAD session. He said there were quite a few songs recorded but they were scrapped during pre-production of the album so I can't say the songs were finished since they were left on the cutting room floor before the official recording but the only known (official) outtakes are

Streetwalker

Fly Away

Cheater

Price of Fame

The rest of those songs most likely didn't fit the mood of BAD and were cancelled out before completion.

ViintageJunkiie said:

Cool footage!

If I had to direct someone to Michael's "deep" albums would you all agree that Destiny and History are the top two?

ViintageJunkiie said:

Derek1984 said:

Maybe this proves the best unreleased track from the BAD sessions was Streetwalker? Kind of tempers my hopes for the likes of Buffalo Bill, Tomboy and whatever else is in the vaults.

Well according to Bruce Swedien, there weren't many outtakes from the BAD session. He said there were quite a few songs recorded but they were scrapped during pre-production of the album so I can't say the songs were finished since they were left on the cutting room floor before the official recording but the only known (official) outtakes are

Streetwalker

Fly Away

Cheater

Price of Fame

The rest of those songs most likely didn't fit the mood of BAD and were cancelled out before completion.

I honestly believe when it comes to "outtakes", I think he means completely finished tracks

now if we're talking about demos like Cheater (which wasn't finished) which were done at Hayvenhurst with Bill Bottrell and John Barnes, then there's definitely more

Throwin' Your Life Away

Cheater

Apacalypse Now

Michael McKeller

Make Or Break

Chicago 1945

Al Capone

Groove Of Midnight

Crack Kills

Make A Wish

Buffalo Bill

There were 2 teams working on Bad. The Westlake team and the B team which worked with MJ at his home studio

I just found out James Ingram wrote stuff for the album too. I wonder if that stuff was recorded too.....

Derek1984 said:

Maybe this proves the best unreleased track from the BAD sessions was Streetwalker? Kind of tempers my hopes for the likes of Buffalo Bill, Tomboy and whatever else is in the vaults.

I don't think it proves it's the best. It proves that it fit the album better than the others and had a better flow

bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Well according to Bruce Swedien, there weren't many outtakes from the BAD session. He said there were quite a few songs recorded but they were scrapped during pre-production of the album so I can't say the songs were finished since they were left on the cutting room floor before the official recording but the only known (official) outtakes are

Streetwalker

Fly Away

Cheater

Price of Fame

The rest of those songs most likely didn't fit the mood of BAD and were cancelled out before completion.

I honestly believe when it comes to "outtakes", I think he means completely finished tracks

now if we're talking about demos like Cheater (which wasn't finished) which were done at Hayvenhurst with Bill Bottrell and John Barnes, then there's definitely more

Throwin' Your Life Away

Cheater

Apacalypse Now

Michael McKeller

Make Or Break

Chicago 1945

Al Capone

Groove Of Midnight

Crack Kills

Make A Wish

Buffalo Bill

There were 2 teams working on Bad. The Westlake team and the B team which worked with MJ at his home studio

I just found out James Ingram wrote stuff for the album too. I wonder if that stuff was recorded too.....

Yeah that's what I think Bruce means when he says there were very little.

The ones that you mentioned are most likely the ones that Quincy and Bruce scrapped during pre-production of the BAD album. Can we really count Crack Kills since sources say MJ and RUN DMC never recorded it? Well, I'm sure MJ did a demo anyway. Wasn't there talk going around that Rod Temperton submitted demos for the BAD album? I take it Groove of Midnight was one of them but was that actually FOR MJ or did he just demo it for Siedah?

What about Strawberry Fields Forever? Or was that just for the Decade album?

ViintageJunkiie said:

bboy87 said:

I honestly believe when it comes to "outtakes", I think he means completely finished tracks

now if we're talking about demos like Cheater (which wasn't finished) which were done at Hayvenhurst with Bill Bottrell and John Barnes, then there's definitely more

Throwin' Your Life Away

Cheater

Apacalypse Now

Michael McKeller

Make Or Break

Chicago 1945

Al Capone

Groove Of Midnight

Crack Kills

Make A Wish

Buffalo Bill

There were 2 teams working on Bad. The Westlake team and the B team which worked with MJ at his home studio

I just found out James Ingram wrote stuff for the album too. I wonder if that stuff was recorded too.....

Yeah that's what I think Bruce means when he says there were very little.

The ones that you mentioned are most likely the ones that Quincy and Bruce scrapped during pre-production of the BAD album. Can we really count Crack Kills since sources say MJ and RUN DMC never recorded it? Well, I'm sure MJ did a demo anyway. Wasn't there talk going around that Rod Temperton submitted demos for the BAD album? I take it Groove of Midnight was one of them but was that actually FOR MJ or did he just demo it for Siedah?

What about Strawberry Fields Forever? Or was that just for the Decade album?

Michael was recording in 1985 WITHOUT Quincy. Q didn't get on board until mid-86 I suppose. I Just Can't Stop Loving You and Bad were the first tracks worked on at Westlake with the main team. He worked on Another Part Of Me in early '85 when he did Captain EO with John Barnes then Michael and Q remixed it (John Barnes still should've gotten a production credit on the 87 mix IMO)

What was said in Man In The Music, Michael and HIS team would work on songs at Hayvenhurst, then send them over to the Westlake crew to basically finish up A lot of the songs were done, from what Bottrell said

I wonder about Strawberry Fields Forever and Come Together because they were both recorded in '85 but I don't think they were done specifically for Bad but they could've been

ViintageJunkiie said:

bboy87 said:

I honestly believe when it comes to "outtakes", I think he means completely finished tracks

now if we're talking about demos like Cheater (which wasn't finished) which were done at Hayvenhurst with Bill Bottrell and John Barnes, then there's definitely more

Throwin' Your Life Away

Cheater

Apacalypse Now

Michael McKeller

Make Or Break

Chicago 1945

Al Capone

Groove Of Midnight

Crack Kills

Make A Wish

Buffalo Bill

There were 2 teams working on Bad. The Westlake team and the B team which worked with MJ at his home studio

I just found out James Ingram wrote stuff for the album too. I wonder if that stuff was recorded too.....

Yeah that's what I think Bruce means when he says there were very little.

The ones that you mentioned are most likely the ones that Quincy and Bruce scrapped during pre-production of the BAD album. Can we really count Crack Kills since sources say MJ and RUN DMC never recorded it? Well, I'm sure MJ did a demo anyway. Wasn't there talk going around that Rod Temperton submitted demos for the BAD album? I take it Groove of Midnight was one of them but was that actually FOR MJ or did he just demo it for Siedah?

What about Strawberry Fields Forever? Or was that just for the Decade album?

Yeah it's been unclear over the years just how many of these outtakes that Michael actually finished. I'm starting to doubt that most of the songs he started on he didn't finish them or never got to finish them. Maybe that's why Sony's doing what they're doing, I don't know...

Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Yeah that's what I think Bruce means when he says there were very little.

The ones that you mentioned are most likely the ones that Quincy and Bruce scrapped during pre-production of the BAD album. Can we really count Crack Kills since sources say MJ and RUN DMC never recorded it? Well, I'm sure MJ did a demo anyway. Wasn't there talk going around that Rod Temperton submitted demos for the BAD album? I take it Groove of Midnight was one of them but was that actually FOR MJ or did he just demo it for Siedah?

What about Strawberry Fields Forever? Or was that just for the Decade album?

Yeah it's been unclear over the years just how many of these outtakes that Michael actually finished. I'm starting to doubt that most of the songs he started on he didn't finish them or never got to finish them. Maybe that's why Sony's doing what they're doing, I don't know...

I was told the Estate and Sony just don't know what the fuck they're doing

Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Yeah that's what I think Bruce means when he says there were very little.

The ones that you mentioned are most likely the ones that Quincy and Bruce scrapped during pre-production of the BAD album. Can we really count Crack Kills since sources say MJ and RUN DMC never recorded it? Well, I'm sure MJ did a demo anyway. Wasn't there talk going around that Rod Temperton submitted demos for the BAD album? I take it Groove of Midnight was one of them but was that actually FOR MJ or did he just demo it for Siedah?

What about Strawberry Fields Forever? Or was that just for the Decade album?

Yeah it's been unclear over the years just how many of these outtakes that Michael actually finished. I'm starting to doubt that most of the songs he started on he didn't finish them or never got to finish them. Maybe that's why Sony's doing what they're doing, I don't know...

It's possible! I know MJ didn't half-ass his demos but it makes you wonder how much is actually COMPLETE and not just mumbled words

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah it's been unclear over the years just how many of these outtakes that Michael actually finished. I'm starting to doubt that most of the songs he started on he didn't finish them or never got to finish them. Maybe that's why Sony's doing what they're doing, I don't know...

I was told the Estate and Sony just don't know what the fuck they're doing

What's the info on this MJ album that was due in 1999? Was this what Invincible was supposed to be?

ViintageJunkiie said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah it's been unclear over the years just how many of these outtakes that Michael actually finished. I'm starting to doubt that most of the songs he started on he didn't finish them or never got to finish them. Maybe that's why Sony's doing what they're doing, I don't know...

It's possible! I know MJ didn't half-ass his demos but it makes you wonder how much is actually COMPLETE and not just mumbled words

Exactly!

ViintageJunkiie said:

bboy87 said:

I was told the Estate and Sony just don't know what the fuck they're doing

What's the info on this MJ album that was due in 1999? Was this what Invincible was supposed to be?

Yeah I'm curious about the info. It's possible Sony and the estate are grasping at straws lol

A lot of MJ's songs were registered to the US Copyright Office 1-2 years AFTER his albums. Anyone know if there was a reason for that?

"Learned My Lesson" and "Stand Tall" were copyrighted in 1985. Could they've been copyrighted for inclusion on BAD (1987)?

Gotta Find A Way Somehow, Holiday Inn, Ode to Sorrow, Nymphette Lover and Somewhere in Time are all copyrighted in 1984. Possibly for Victory album? However these songs were written as early as 1976

Fanfare was copyrighted in 1992 but for what? What was he working on in 1992?

Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

What's the info on this MJ album that was due in 1999? Was this what Invincible was supposed to be?

Yeah I'm curious about the info. It's possible Sony and the estate are grasping at straws lol

MJ worked on a handful of songs with Babyface that was supposedly supposed to be included on an album MJ was to release in 1999. I know those records HAVE to be complete

ViintageJunkiie said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah I'm curious about the info. It's possible Sony and the estate are grasping at straws lol

MJ worked on a handful of songs with Babyface that was supposedly supposed to be included on an album MJ was to release in 1999. I know those records HAVE to be complete

Yeah I had heard about that too.

Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

MJ worked on a handful of songs with Babyface that was supposedly supposed to be included on an album MJ was to release in 1999. I know those records HAVE to be complete

Yeah I had heard about that too.

Babyface prolly like "naw you ain't getting these!"

ViintageJunkiie said:

bboy87 said:

I was told the Estate and Sony just don't know what the fuck they're doing

What's the info on this MJ album that was due in 1999? Was this what Invincible was supposed to be?

Yep

hey everyone i just wanted 2 share some cool images that were taking off of second life. today i was fortunate 2 witness somes friends online put on a DAZZLING interperation of the "this is it" concert as it would have taken place. 4 those that don't know what secondlife is, it's a virtual 3D world and there are avatars that can act and do cool things. there are "concerts" on SL and some are just stiff but this perfomance is the BEST CONCERT I HAVE EVER SEEN ON THERE. the dancers moved 2 the music just like how MJ would have done.

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-SmoothCriminal.jpg[/img:$uid]

this is during the performance of smooth criminal

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-TheWayYouMakeMeFeel.jpg[/img:$uid]

the way u make me feel

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-Jackson5Medley.jpg[/img:$uid]

jackson 5 medley

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-BillieJean.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-BillieJean2.jpg[/img:$uid]

during billie jean..notice the clothing it was like how MJ would have worn his clothes during billie jean with the laser lights in the pants, socks and glove!

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-Thriller.jpg[/img:$uid]

Thriller

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-DirtyDiana.jpg[/img:$uid]

dirty diana

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-EarthSong.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-EarthSong2.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJThisisit-EarthSong3.jpg[/img:$uid]

during earth song 1st pic is with the cherry picker, 2nd when the bulldozer and 3rd when the earth heals

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-BlackOrWhite.jpg[/img:$uid]

during black or white

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-MJAir1.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-MJAir2.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-MJAir3.jpg[/img:$uid]

okay i had 2 save some of these pics 4 last..this is during man in the mirror and the replica of MJ Air closing the show. the way the plane turned visually let the whole audience actually feel like we were on the plane itself!

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-ThisisItfinale.jpg[/img:$uid]

the stage after the concert was over

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/PrinceandMJ1.jpg[/img:$uid]

what would happen if prince was at this show? *that's me as prince btw with the crew of the show*

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/PrinceAndMJ2.jpg[/img:$uid]

hope u all enjoyed!

I thought the song Buffalo Bill was recorded for the Victory album.

ViintageJunkiie said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah I had heard about that too.

Babyface prolly like "naw you ain't getting these!"

I can believe it. Face's snooty ass.

[Edited 12/23/11 22:05pm]

NaughtyKitty said:

Militant said:

Me too.

Me three! Especially Liberian Girl which is a classic imo.

ME FOURTH!!!!

L4OATheOriginal said:

hey everyone i just wanted 2 share some cool images that were taking off of second life. today i was fortunate 2 witness somes friends online put on a DAZZLING interperation of the "this is it" concert as it would have taken place. 4 those that don't know what secondlife is, it's a virtual 3D world and there are avatars that can act and do cool things. there are "concerts" on SL and some are just stiff but this perfomance is the BEST CONCERT I HAVE EVER SEEN ON THERE. the dancers moved 2 the music just like how MJ would have done.

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-SmoothCriminal.jpg[/img:$uid]

this is during the performance of smooth criminal

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-TheWayYouMakeMeFeel.jpg[/img:$uid]

the way u make me feel

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-Jackson5Medley.jpg[/img:$uid]

jackson 5 medley

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-BillieJean.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-BillieJean2.jpg[/img:$uid]

during billie jean..notice the clothing it was like how MJ would have worn his clothes during billie jean with the laser lights in the pants, socks and glove!

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-Thriller.jpg[/img:$uid]

Thriller

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-DirtyDiana.jpg[/img:$uid]

dirty diana

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-EarthSong.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-EarthSong2.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJThisisit-EarthSong3.jpg[/img:$uid]

during earth song 1st pic is with the cherry picker, 2nd when the bulldozer and 3rd when the earth heals

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-BlackOrWhite.jpg[/img:$uid]

during black or white

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-MJAir1.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-MJAir2.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-MJAir3.jpg[/img:$uid]

okay i had 2 save some of these pics 4 last..this is during man in the mirror and the replica of MJ Air closing the show. the way the plane turned visually let the whole audience actually feel like we were on the plane itself!

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-ThisisItfinale.jpg[/img:$uid]

the stage after the concert was over

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/PrinceandMJ1.jpg[/img:$uid]

what would happen if prince was at this show? *that's me as prince btw with the crew of the show*

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/PrinceAndMJ2.jpg[/img:$uid]

hope u all enjoyed!

I play SL too!!! Where can I see this show on there!??

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

hey everyone i just wanted 2 share some cool images that were taking off of second life. today i was fortunate 2 witness somes friends online put on a DAZZLING interperation of the "this is it" concert as it would have taken place. 4 those that don't know what secondlife is, it's a virtual 3D world and there are avatars that can act and do cool things. there are "concerts" on SL and some are just stiff but this perfomance is the BEST CONCERT I HAVE EVER SEEN ON THERE. the dancers moved 2 the music just like how MJ would have done.

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-SmoothCriminal.jpg[/img:$uid]

this is during the performance of smooth criminal

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-TheWayYouMakeMeFeel.jpg[/img:$uid]

the way u make me feel

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-Jackson5Medley.jpg[/img:$uid]

jackson 5 medley

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-BillieJean.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-BillieJean2.jpg[/img:$uid]

during billie jean..notice the clothing it was like how MJ would have worn his clothes during billie jean with the laser lights in the pants, socks and glove!

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-Thriller.jpg[/img:$uid]

Thriller

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-DirtyDiana.jpg[/img:$uid]

dirty diana

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-EarthSong.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-EarthSong2.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJThisisit-EarthSong3.jpg[/img:$uid]

during earth song 1st pic is with the cherry picker, 2nd when the bulldozer and 3rd when the earth heals

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-BlackOrWhite.jpg[/img:$uid]

during black or white

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-MJAir1.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-MJAir2.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-MJAir3.jpg[/img:$uid]

okay i had 2 save some of these pics 4 last..this is during man in the mirror and the replica of MJ Air closing the show. the way the plane turned visually let the whole audience actually feel like we were on the plane itself!

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/MJthisisit-ThisisItfinale.jpg[/img:$uid]

the stage after the concert was over

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/PrinceandMJ1.jpg[/img:$uid]

what would happen if prince was at this show? *that's me as prince btw with the crew of the show*

[img:$uid]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h60/L4OA1969/PrinceAndMJ2.jpg[/img:$uid]

hope u all enjoyed!

I play SL too!!! Where can I see this show on there!??

i sent u a orgnote

CANUHELPME said:

I thought the song Buffalo Bill was recorded for the Victory album.

It was. The song was written in 1983 along with Liberian Girl and Dirty Diana. MJ re-recorded it for possible inclusion on the BAD album after failing to get placement on Victory.

That looks cool! I've been thinking of playing Second Life, is it free?