JANET, of course. Why is this even a question ? At her peak (RN, janet.), Janet was setting records that matched and exceeded Bruce Springsteen and her brother Michael (two of the biggest artists to come out of the '80s). She achieved several "firsts" for female artists that, in truth, began with Control and kept going through to the early 2000s. She was signing record deals bigger than any artist had ever signed before her. She was courted by the likes of Virgin mogul Richard Branson. She had filmakers writing scripts with her in mind (John Singleton wrote "Poetic Justice" with Janet specifially in mind for the lead). She was setting trends with her iconic music videos--videos that are still being copied 20-plus years later. She was racking up hit after hit, and without the benefit of being in a group, Itunes, YouTube, Twitter, etc. And she never had that trying-too-hard-I'm-gonna-be-a-legend-if-it-kills-me aura about her, either. Her status just came because she was (and still is) Janet.

It's too early to tell, but, IMO, Beyonce hasn't released a video yet to match the artistic merit and legendary status of "The Pleasure Principle", "Rhythm Nation", "If", "Nasty", "Alright", "Love Will Never Do" (Without You)", "Got 'til It's Gone", etc ("Single Ladies", I'm lookin' at you...)

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SEANMAN said:

JANET, of course. Why is this even a question ? At her peak (RN, janet.), Janet was setting records that matched and exceeded Bruce Springsteen and her brother Michael (two of the biggest artists to come out of the '80s). She achieved several "firsts" for female artists that, in truth, began with Control and kept going through to the early 2000s. She was signing record deals bigger than any artist had ever signed before her. She was courted by the likes of Virgin mogul Richard Branson. She had filmakers writing scripts with her in mind (John Singleton wrote "Poetic Justice" with Janet specifially in mind for the lead). She was setting trends with her iconic music videos--videos that are still being copied 20-plus years later. She was racking up hit after hit, and without the benefit of being in a group, Itunes, YouTube, Twitter, etc. And she never had that trying-too-hard-I'm-gonna-be-a-legend-if-it-kills-me aura about her, either. Her status just came because she was (and still is) Janet.

It's too early to tell, but, IMO, Beyonce hasn't released a video yet to match the artistic merit and legendary status of "Rhythm Nation", "If", "Nasty", "Alright", "Love Will Never Do" (Without You)", "Got 'til It's Gone", etc ("Single Ladies", I'm lookin' at you...)

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I love all of what you are saying and it's true. And Janet would never say things like "I want to become an icon." Though I like Beyonce, I was really cringing when she was saying it during her first album, you don't SAY things like that! Even if you want it.

musicjunky318 said:

lowkey said:

what part of beyonce's 'peak' has been close to janet's? she didnt have more hits, her albums wasnt bigger,her tours wasnt bigger,her influence wasnt bigger, hell beyonce grew up listening to janet. her actual accomplishments in the industry does not come close to janets, i agree her hype is bigger.i would argue that janet's last big era (all for you) was close to beyonce's peak. i think people base janet's career off of her post nipplegate projects, even for somebody who hasnt had a big pop hit in like a decade she is still used to compare the current girls against, which shows her influence.

LOL I disagree. The Dangerously in Love era (2003-2004) was bigger than that.

Those eras are silly to compare, janet was a veteran artist still selling well even if not the earth shattering numbers, and Beyonce had her first solo debut with 2 number ones and other hits. Both were hits in their own way. Janet was riding off previous successes, and Beyonce off the success of her group and taking a risk going solo, though I can't stand her first album era.

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mjscarousal said:

^^ Not trying to that was a stupid comment.. Implying Janet doesnt have a classic song when she clearly has more influence than Beyonce . Why would she NOT having a signature song? Somebody my age would actually be saying the opposite but thank God I'm not brain wash by the media and can think for myself and dont based everything on hype

The thread isnt about Janet vs MJ. This is about Janet and Beyonce. So why are you bringing Michael Jackson up?

Their are 40 year olds who listen to Drake and watch Hannah Montana so that isnt a good arguement. 40 year olds at Beyonce shows doesnt mean she has a more diverse fanbase.. Janet has different ethnics, age range, culture, demographics at her show

So far all I have read is since Beyonce is a big star now she has more diverse fanbase and popularity than Janet.. Thats like saying since the Justin Bieber movies out sold This is it.. he is more popular than Michael??? well of course it would sell.. he is a big artist now at the moment doesnt mean his more popular.

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I get what you're saying and I'm not going by media, but rather by observations of what I see happening from surroundings when it comes to Janet, Beyonce or other pop acts in general. I already know she has signature songs, but people name different ones though there are also people I come across that have no clue what she's put out but may know what other big names have put out. I believe Janet is remembered for her iconic impact more so than material at times, though I really wish she got more credit. And those 40 year olds listen to those artists cause they have kids...let's hope, though I also don't understand how they grew up on Janet and can't always appreciate her the way we do.

alphastreet said:

SEANMAN said:

JANET, of course. Why is this even a question ? At her peak (RN, janet.), Janet was setting records that matched and exceeded Bruce Springsteen and her brother Michael (two of the biggest artists to come out of the '80s). She achieved several "firsts" for female artists that, in truth, began with Control and kept going through to the early 2000s. She was signing record deals bigger than any artist had ever signed before her. She was courted by the likes of Virgin mogul Richard Branson. She had filmakers writing scripts with her in mind (John Singleton wrote "Poetic Justice" with Janet specifially in mind for the lead). She was setting trends with her iconic music videos--videos that are still being copied 20-plus years later. She was racking up hit after hit, and without the benefit of being in a group, Itunes, YouTube, Twitter, etc. And she never had that trying-too-hard-I'm-gonna-be-a-legend-if-it-kills-me aura about her, either. Her status just came because she was (and still is) Janet.

It's too early to tell, but, IMO, Beyonce hasn't released a video yet to match the artistic merit and legendary status of "Rhythm Nation", "If", "Nasty", "Alright", "Love Will Never Do" (Without You)", "Got 'til It's Gone", etc ("Single Ladies", I'm lookin' at you...)

[Edited 9/21/11 17:25pm]

I love all of what you are saying and it's true. And Janet would never say things like "I want to become an icon." Though I like Beyonce, I was really cringing when she was saying it during her first album, you don't SAY things like that! Even if you want it.

Right. If it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen.

I am thinking Janet -- she had an uphill battle from the start. if only for the point that was made about her breaking out of MJ's and the Jackson 5's shadow. That alone was was not an ez battle. and she did it with several defining albums.

With MJ gone : ( I am curious if his fan base will shift towards her resulting in huge sales? If so, it could make another peak for her. IMO, She is the closest we have in filling some of that void. I just hope she puts her cloths back on -- she's got talent and don't need to play that game.

janet. her peak was AFY.

TotalAlisa said:

janet. her peak was AFY.

If you honestly think All For You was her peak you should see my earlier post:

If anybody is gonna say All For You is Janet's peak than they should probly notice it sold less both world wide and in the U.S. than Bey's Dangerously In Love which was released two years after.

To go further Both DIL and B'Day sold more than All For You in the U.S. and all of Bey's albums excluding her current have sold more in the UK than All For You.

Just curious, what makes you consider AFY her peak?

it took me a minute to figure out who the second photo was i'd say Janet. Her peak was "Janet/Thats the way love goes" imo

I didn't recognize Beyonce right away either in that picture, that was a really bad one posted, we all know she has better ones.

I think Janet will have a lot to say after what has happened with MJ and her family and people will want to hear a genuine and honest album, our generation will anyways, and she'll pick up new fans when she does. I love the way she is dressing right now in her ads and on the tour. I think people will respect her for being genuine in her music, but if it's all dancy and lovey-dovey without addressing it, I don't think people will buy it, and I mean that in every sense, it will come off as phony almost even if we fans know she always looks forward trying to repress pain.

TotalAlisa said:

janet. her peak was AFY.

I can understand why you thought so since the title track was huge and she was being respected a lot more than during Velvet Rope in comparison, but have you seen the difference between the weekly charts of the janet. album and all for you? The Janet album was at #1 for about 6 weeks or so and in the top 10 for half a year to a year or something like that and on the charts till 1995. All For You was number 1 with her highest first week, in the top 5 for a month, top 40 for 4 months and then kept dropping drastically and was below the hot 100 until the Hawaii concert bumped it back up. It actually sold 3.1 million despite the 2 million certification, as I was keeping up with the tallies then, and the Janet album sold 7 million copies.

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Guys, we're not about influence, importance to music, or status. In all these respects Janet is much greater than Beyonce. This is obvious and not discussed.

We've just about popularity, nothing more and nothing less. In the aspect of popularity they are very very close in the global dimension.

RKJCNE said:

TotalAlisa said:

janet. her peak was AFY.

If you honestly think All For You was her peak you should see my earlier post:

If anybody is gonna say All For You is Janet's peak than they should probly notice it sold less both world wide and in the U.S. than Bey's Dangerously In Love which was released two years after.

To go further Both DIL and B'Day sold more than All For You in the U.S. and all of Bey's albums excluding her current have sold more in the UK than All For You.

Just curious, what makes you consider AFY her peak?

I DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR POSTS!!!!

like I said AFY is her peak it was her last biggest hit. Whether it sold less than beyonce's first solo album. Because we know it sold more than beyonce's recent album.

alphastreet said:

TotalAlisa said:

janet. her peak was AFY.

I can understand why you thought so since the title track was huge and she was being respected a lot more than during Velvet Rope in comparison, but have you seen the difference between the weekly charts of the janet. album and all for you? The Janet album was at #1 for about 6 weeks or so and in the top 10 for half a year to a year or something like that and on the charts till 1995. All For You was number 1 with her highest first week, in the top 5 for a month, top 40 for 4 months and then kept dropping drastically and was below the hot 100 until the Hawaii concert bumped it back up. It actually sold 3.1 million despite the 2 million certification, as I was keeping up with the tallies then, and the Janet album sold 7 million copies.

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well i was really basing it on popularity and success whether the AFY album sold less than the janet album. The last big commercial success for janet was AFY and then she went down hill. So I consider it her peak.

Its like saying Thrill is MJ's peak because it sold the most, even though his albums after were just as amazing and successful.

I actually like VR and AFY better than the Janet album.

Truth is, Janet has had many "peaks". Some people may look at All For You as Janet's peak because:

-with just over 605,000 copies sold in the first week, it is her biggest opening week album, sales-wise, to date. It was platinum by week 3 of its release. It was also her first album to debut at #1 in Canada.

-it was Janet's fifth consecutive #1 album, a feat still unmatched by any other female artist

-the song "All For You" made history by being the first single ever to be added to every radio format upon its release. The song also topped the Hot 100, R&B and Dance charts, and was the longest running Hot 100 #1 of 2001. Janet also won many awards for the song, including a Best Dance Recording Grammy and a BMI award for Most Played Song of the Year.

-the album's first official single, 2000's "Doesn't Really Matter", made Janet the first artist to score #1 Hot 100 singles in the '80s, '90s and 2000s. The following year would continue this feat, as "All For You" became the first single by a solo female artist to be #1 in 2001

Oh, and she was at a point where people would just spaz even if she just gave them a tiny kiss on the cheek...

[Edited 9/22/11 5:29am]

TotalAlisa said:

RKJCNE said:

To go further Both DIL and B'Day sold more than All For You in the U.S. and all of Bey's albums excluding her current have sold more in the UK than All For You.

Just curious, what makes you consider AFY her peak?

I DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR POSTS!!!!

like I said AFY is her peak it was her last biggest hit. Whether it sold less than beyonce's first solo album. Because we know it sold more than beyonce's recent album.

Ok, but if you insist that AFY was her peak than you are pretty much admitting that Beyonce was bigger in her peak.

Janet also had the case where people knew her as a TV actress who went into singing. Beyonce transitioned into being a solo artist where people became familiar with her name.

Commercial peak - Janet and Beyonce have had peaks, but I don't think Beyonce has had any valleys.

We'll see where Beyonce's career is at after she has her kid, but with her delivering 70 finished songs to the record company, she won't have to be in a recording studio anytime soon. If any of them get outdated, she'll just hire the latest and greatest producer to take care of that. The record company will keep it flowing. That does come across like someone who was planning to take a long break.

SEANMAN said:

Oh, and she was at a point where people would just spaz even if she just gave them a tiny kiss on the cheek...

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That really cute!

alphastreet said:

I didn't recognize Beyonce right away either in that picture, that was a really bad one posted, we all know she has better ones.

I think Janet will have a lot to say after what has happened with MJ and her family and people will want to hear a genuine and honest album, our generation will anyways, and she'll pick up new fans when she does. I love the way she is dressing right now in her ads and on the tour. I think people will respect her for being genuine in her music, but if it's all dancy and lovey-dovey without addressing it, I don't think people will buy it, and I mean that in every sense, it will come off as phony almost even if we fans know she always looks forward trying to repress pain.

I thought Janet already wrote a book about her family, and did plenty of interviews about it. When she did Why Did I Get Married, Tyler was playing interference b/c it was too soon to go into questions about that. Maybe she'll do a song or two about him.

dalsh327 said:

alphastreet said:

I didn't recognize Beyonce right away either in that picture, that was a really bad one posted, we all know she has better ones.

I think Janet will have a lot to say after what has happened with MJ and her family and people will want to hear a genuine and honest album, our generation will anyways, and she'll pick up new fans when she does. I love the way she is dressing right now in her ads and on the tour. I think people will respect her for being genuine in her music, but if it's all dancy and lovey-dovey without addressing it, I don't think people will buy it, and I mean that in every sense, it will come off as phony almost even if we fans know she always looks forward trying to repress pain.

I thought Janet already wrote a book about her family, and did plenty of interviews about it. When she did Why Did I Get Married, Tyler was playing interference b/c it was too soon to go into questions about that. Maybe she'll do a song or two about him.

She wrote a self-help book that was released earlier this year (and went to #1 on the NY Times Bestsellers List). It's filled with anecdotes, recipes, and bits about her life and various struggles with self esteem and weight. She talks about her family in some spots.

SEANMAN said:

Truth is, Janet has had many "peaks". Some people may look at All For You as Janet's peak because:

-with just over 605,000 copies sold in the first week, it is her biggest opening week album, sales-wise, to date. It was platinum by week 3 of its release. It was also her first album to debut at #1 in Canada.

-it was Janet's fifth consecutive #1 album, a feat still unmatched by any other female artist

-the song "All For You" made history by being the first single ever to be added to every radio format upon its release. The song also topped the Hot 100, R&B and Dance charts, and was the longest running Hot 100 #1 of 2001. Janet also won many awards for the song, including a Best Dance Recording Grammy and a BMI award for Most Played Song of the Year.

-the album's first official single, 2000's "Doesn't Really Matter", made Janet the first artist to score #1 Hot 100 singles in the '80s, '90s and 2000s. The following year would continue this feat, as "All For You" became the first single by a solo female artist to be #1 in 2001

Oh, and she was at a point where people would just spaz even if she just gave them a tiny kiss on the cheek...

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Just the name Janet Jackson next to Beyawnce is enough... LOL Sean dont have to list the accolades about oh girl... we know shes the baddest.

Thats a nice gif lol

mjscarousal said:

SEANMAN said:

Truth is, Janet has had many "peaks". Some people may look at All For You as Janet's peak because:

-with just over 605,000 copies sold in the first week, it is her biggest opening week album, sales-wise, to date. It was platinum by week 3 of its release. It was also her first album to debut at #1 in Canada.

-it was Janet's fifth consecutive #1 album, a feat still unmatched by any other female artist

-the song "All For You" made history by being the first single ever to be added to every radio format upon its release. The song also topped the Hot 100, R&B and Dance charts, and was the longest running Hot 100 #1 of 2001. Janet also won many awards for the song, including a Best Dance Recording Grammy and a BMI award for Most Played Song of the Year.

-the album's first official single, 2000's "Doesn't Really Matter", made Janet the first artist to score #1 Hot 100 singles in the '80s, '90s and 2000s. The following year would continue this feat, as "All For You" became the first single by a solo female artist to be #1 in 2001

Oh, and she was at a point where people would just spaz even if she just gave them a tiny kiss on the cheek...

[Edited 9/22/11 5:29am]

Just the name Janet Jackson next to Beyawnce is enough... LOL Sean dont have to list the accolades about oh girl... we know shes the baddest.

Thats a nice gif lol

TotalAlisa said:

alphastreet said:

I can understand why you thought so since the title track was huge and she was being respected a lot more than during Velvet Rope in comparison, but have you seen the difference between the weekly charts of the janet. album and all for you? The Janet album was at #1 for about 6 weeks or so and in the top 10 for half a year to a year or something like that and on the charts till 1995. All For You was number 1 with her highest first week, in the top 5 for a month, top 40 for 4 months and then kept dropping drastically and was below the hot 100 until the Hawaii concert bumped it back up. It actually sold 3.1 million despite the 2 million certification, as I was keeping up with the tallies then, and the Janet album sold 7 million copies.

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well i was really basing it on popularity and success whether the AFY album sold less than the janet album. The last big commercial success for janet was AFY and then she went down hill. So I consider it her peak.

Its like saying Thrill is MJ's peak because it sold the most, even though his albums after were just as amazing and successful.

I actually like VR and AFY better than the Janet album.

But peak means the highest level of popularity among the public, and though she had that with all for you, I think it was at it's highest from the Rhythm Nation through Design of a Decade eras to be honest, and after that if she had a hit, she had a hit, even though I loved her best during the same eras you named too cause I was an active fan then, discovering her at the tail end of the janet. era. If I hear others reference loving Janet the most, they name the janet. era almost all the time and I occasionally hear Control or Rhythm Nation, or "for the songs Together Again and All For You" cute huh?

Since you brought up MJ, I know people act like Thriller is the most popular and I believe them though I was an infant during that era though as soon as I could remember, I remember him in flashes from what was being played, but from what I remember about Bad and Dangerous while happening though I just liked him from afar in passing if he was played at the time, he was extremely popular and it was hard to get away from people performing his stuff or playing him at parties using the popular single of the era, which is why I don't believe critics who say he declined after Thriller, I lived during that time as a casual observer from afar though when I played catch up in the 90's and loved him after rediscovering him and all these things I missed out on or didn't realize was him before though I knew it, he was still considered popular. Yes, during HIStory. I remember an article said the general public likes him, the media don't, and it rang true those days.

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alphastreet said:

TotalAlisa said:

well i was really basing it on popularity and success whether the AFY album sold less than the janet album. The last big commercial success for janet was AFY and then she went down hill. So I consider it her peak.

Its like saying Thrill is MJ's peak because it sold the most, even though his albums after were just as amazing and successful.

I actually like VR and AFY better than the Janet album.

But peak means the highest level of popularity among the public, and though she had that with all for you, I think it was at it's highest from the Rhythm Nation through Design of a Decade eras to be honest, and after that if she had a hit, she had a hit, even though I loved her best during the same eras you named too cause I was an active fan then, discovering her at the tail end of the janet. era. If I hear others reference loving Janet the most, they name the janet. era almost all the time and I occasionally hear Control or Rhythm Nation, or "for the songs Together Again and All For You" cute huh?

Since you brought up MJ, I know people act like Thriller is the most popular and I believe them though I was an infant during that era though as soon as I could remember, I remember him in flashes from what was being played, but from what I remember about Bad and Dangerous while happening though I just liked him from afar in passing if he was played at the time, he was extremely popular and it was hard to get away from people performing his stuff or playing him at parties using the popular single of the era, which is why I don't believe critics who say he declined after Thriller, I lived during that time as a casual observer from afar though when I played catch up in the 90's and loved him after rediscovering him and all these things I missed out on or didn't realize was him before though I knew it, he was still considered popular. Yes, during HIStory. I remember an article said the general public likes him, the media don't, and it rang true those days.

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Let's just say from 1982 to 1991 Michael was the most popular artist in the world. Thriller, Bad and Dangerous in the top 20 best selling albums of all time in the world and in the top 10 best selling albums in the history of Europe.
But from 1979 to 1997 (Ghosts, History-tour) Michael also was very popular, among the leaders.
All his adult albums (except the Invincible) are in top-75 best-selling albums ever.

But the peak MJ, of course, Thriller. He was HUGE.
While this album is not even in my top 3 albums of Jackson.

Janet peak, obviously, Rhythm Nation.
This is the album, with whom Janet is primarily associated in most people.

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LiLi1992 said:

alphastreet said:

But peak means the highest level of popularity among the public, and though she had that with all for you, I think it was at it's highest from the Rhythm Nation through Design of a Decade eras to be honest, and after that if she had a hit, she had a hit, even though I loved her best during the same eras you named too cause I was an active fan then, discovering her at the tail end of the janet. era. If I hear others reference loving Janet the most, they name the janet. era almost all the time and I occasionally hear Control or Rhythm Nation, or "for the songs Together Again and All For You" cute huh?

Since you brought up MJ, I know people act like Thriller is the most popular and I believe them though I was an infant during that era though as soon as I could remember, I remember him in flashes from what was being played, but from what I remember about Bad and Dangerous while happening though I just liked him from afar in passing if he was played at the time, he was extremely popular and it was hard to get away from people performing his stuff or playing him at parties using the popular single of the era, which is why I don't believe critics who say he declined after Thriller, I lived during that time as a casual observer from afar though when I played catch up in the 90's and loved him after rediscovering him and all these things I missed out on or didn't realize was him before though I knew it, he was still considered popular. Yes, during HIStory. I remember an article said the general public likes him, the media don't, and it rang true those days.

[Edited 9/22/11 9:47am]

Let's just say from 1982 to 1991 Michael was the most popular artist in the world. Thriller, Bad and Dangerous in the top 20 best selling albums of all time in the world and in the top 10 best selling albums in the history of Europe.
But from 1979 to 1997 (Ghosts, History-tour) Michael also was very popular, among the leaders.
All his adult albums (except the Invincible) are in top-75 best-selling albums ever.

But the peak MJ, of course, Thriller. He was HUGE.
While this album is not even in my top 3 albums of Jackson.

Janet peak, obviously, Rhythm Nation.
This is the album, with whom Janet is primarily associated in most people.

[Edited 9/22/11 10:10am]

Yeah I agree with you on all of what you are saying about MJ. Though I saw mixed reactions during the late 90's, it seemed like he was still really liked and respected overall during HIStory and BOTDF, even if from afar by most people. I found people being weird after those eras for a bit though and making jokes, cause I was oblivious to them before.

Though I know statistically Rhythm Nation had more popular hits, janet. sold more and I hear way more people crediting her for that era and tour, but then again I'm talking about Canada and it was her first multiple platinum selling album here though not her first platinum one. Having said that, I do think Rhythm Nation is a better album start to finish and Janet's most consistent work came out of it, though I also love the janet. era and think it's so sensual. Maybe if I asked people 10 years older and not up to 5 years older than me, they would name RN as bigger.....

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TotalAlisa said:

RKJCNE said:

To go further Both DIL and B'Day sold more than All For You in the U.S. and all of Bey's albums excluding her current have sold more in the UK than All For You.

Just curious, what makes you consider AFY her peak?

I DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR POSTS!!!!

like I said AFY is her peak it was her last biggest hit. Whether it sold less than beyonce's first solo album. Because we know it sold more than beyonce's recent album.

Were u around for the RN era? RN was definitely her biggest album/project. That is why she rarely does a show without performing EVERY hit from that album. AFY (the song) was one of her biggest hits, but it wasn't the peak of her career.

SEANMAN said:

Truth is, Janet has had many "peaks". Some people may look at All For You as Janet's peak because:

-with just over 605,000 copies sold in the first week, it is her biggest opening week album, sales-wise, to date. It was platinum by week 3 of its release. It was also her first album to debut at #1 in Canada.

-it was Janet's fifth consecutive #1 album, a feat still unmatched by any other female artist

-the song "All For You" made history by being the first single ever to be added to every radio format upon its release. The song also topped the Hot 100, R&B and Dance charts, and was the longest running Hot 100 #1 of 2001. Janet also won many awards for the song, including a Best Dance Recording Grammy and a BMI award for Most Played Song of the Year.

-the album's first official single, 2000's "Doesn't Really Matter", made Janet the first artist to score #1 Hot 100 singles in the '80s, '90s and 2000s. The following year would continue this feat, as "All For You" became the first single by a solo female artist to be #1 in 2001

Oh, and she was at a point where people would just spaz even if she just gave them a tiny kiss on the cheek...

[Edited 9/22/11 5:29am]

Can you really count DRM as the "first single" from AFY? The song is really for the soundtrack of The Nutty Professor 2 and JJ just included a different version on the AFY album.

daPrettyman said:

TotalAlisa said:

I DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR POSTS!!!!

like I said AFY is her peak it was her last biggest hit. Whether it sold less than beyonce's first solo album. Because we know it sold more than beyonce's recent album.

Were u around for the RN era? RN was definitely her biggest album/project. That is why she rarely does a show without performing EVERY hit from that album. AFY (the song) was one of her biggest hits, but it wasn't the peak of her career.

I never considered AFY her peak period. It's between RN and Janet.

I just want to say, Janet looks fine as hell in that first picture.

smoothcriminal12 said:

I just want to say, Janet looks fine as hell in that first picture.

I think that's a pic from her SNL appearance.