Oopsies, Fake=Hearsey album.

MickyDolenz said:

^^^The Monkees Head soundtrack had interludes on it, and it came out in 1968.

Stand corrected lol

sosgemini said:

SEANMAN said:

I didn't see many albums (if any at all) with interludes on them before RN. Also, it helped further establish the New Jack Swing genre.

She had them on Control. They just weren't tracked. And didn't funk artist do the whole skit thing before that? Shoot, Alexander O'Neal had them on his Fake album which predated RN1814, too.

His "Fake" album . I guess you could consider the "Lately" skit an interlude, but if you say the "Gimmie A Beat!" command before "Nasty" is an interlude, imma smack u...

SEANMAN said:

sosgemini said:

She had them on Control. They just weren't tracked. And didn't funk artist do the whole skit thing before that? Shoot, Alexander O'Neal had them on his Fake album which predated RN1814, too.

His "Fake" album . I guess you could consider the "Lately" skit an interlude, but if you say the "Gimmie A Beat!" command before "Nasty" is an interlude, imma smack u...

Uhh, the begining of Control. The begining of What Have You Done For Me Lately. I'd also argue that, if released later in her career, the beginning and end of Funny How Time Flies would have been edited as interlude and closing. Janet's just that damn predictable.

sosgemini said:

SEANMAN said:

His "Fake" album . I guess you could consider the "Lately" skit an interlude, but if you say the "Gimmie A Beat!" command before "Nasty" is an interlude, imma smack u...

Uhh, the begining of Control. The begining of What Have You Done For Me Lately. I'd also argue that, if released later in her career, the beginning and end of Funny How Time Flies would have been edited as interlude and closing. Janet's just that damn predictable.

Ok, now you're reaching And i did say the "Lately" skit.

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sosgemini said:

SEANMAN said:

His "Fake" album . I guess you could consider the "Lately" skit an interlude, but if you say the "Gimmie A Beat!" command before "Nasty" is an interlude, imma smack u...

Uhh, the begining of Control. The begining of What Have You Done For Me Lately. I'd also argue that, if released later in her career, the beginning and end of Funny How Time Flies would have been edited as interlude and closing. Janet's just that damn predictable.

That interlude on WHYDFML was classic.

Melanie Andrews: What's up girl?

Melanie: I know he USED to do nice stuff for you but what has he done for you LATELY?

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But no Janet wasn't the first.

Cherrelle had an interlude in "High Priority" prior to "Saturday Love" which featured Alexander O'Neal looking over wondering if he should talk to her lol this was 1985 lol

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Timmy84 said:

sosgemini said:

Uhh, the begining of Control. The begining of What Have You Done For Me Lately. I'd also argue that, if released later in her career, the beginning and end of Funny How Time Flies would have been edited as interlude and closing. Janet's just that damn predictable.

That interlude on WHYDFML was classic.

Melanie Andrews: What's up girl?

Janet: He stood me up...AGAIN.

Melanie: Again?

Janet: Mm-hmm.

Melanie: Well what is UP with this guy? Do you like him THAT much?

Janet: Yes honey I love him! He does a lot of nice things for me.

Melanie: I know he USED to do nice stuff for you but what has he done for you LATELY?

U forgot the "He is fine" part after "Yes honey, I love him!"

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SEANMAN said:

Timmy84 said:

That interlude on WHYDFML was classic.

Melanie Andrews: What's up girl?

Janet: He stood me up...AGAIN.

Melanie: Again?

Janet: Mm-hmm.

Melanie: Well what is UP with this guy? Do you like him THAT much?

Janet: Yes honey I love him! He does a lot of nice things for me.

Melanie: I know he USED to do nice stuff for you but what has he done for you LATELY?

U forgot the "He is fine" part after "Yes honey, I love him!" I just remembered that Vanessa Williams used a snippet of that interlude in "The Right Stuff".

I edited lol

SEANMAN said:

sosgemini said:

Uhh, the begining of Control. The begining of What Have You Done For Me Lately. I'd also argue that, if released later in her career, the beginning and end of Funny How Time Flies would have been edited as interlude and closing. Janet's just that damn predictable.

Ok, now you're reaching And i did say the "Lately" skit.

She's got tons of 5 second interludes. You know she would have. Re: Lately: I didn't know what you were talking about so I just ignored it. I thought there was a song somewhere titled "Lately".

I love that WHYDFML interlude!!!

sosgemini said:

SEANMAN said:

Ok, now you're reaching And i did say the "Lately" skit.

She's got tons of 5 second interludes. You know she would have. Re: Lately: I didn't know what you were talking about so I just ignored it. I thought there was a song somewhere titled "Lately".

Lawd

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DiscoFunkChick said:

sosgemini said:

Seriously? Arachnoid? Rythm Nation? How did those change the landscapes of music? Arachnoid can't event change the tragectory of Janelle's career.

Try saying that 20-30 years down the road.

This ain't the "Albums that will change music" thread.

NDRU said:

no I know they did not invent this style of music, they sure changed what everyone was doing! To this day, people are still copying it.

I remember the day this thing knocked Micheal Jackson's album off it's lofty perch.

It came from nowhere and just changed the landscape of popular music for years.

Oddly, Nirvana offered nothing new. If you strip away the 'grunge' label, it's really

just basic rock n roll, a bit punk influenced and such, but rock and roll none-the-less.

But what seemed like for ages, groups started to emulate them. I got sick of all of these

baratone metal singers trying to over emphasize their 'r's in songs and such.

But then again, Alanis Morisset's Jagged Little Pill had the same affect on female pop acts

during the 90s.

I remember for a stretch of years, only female singers where topping the charts.

Unholyalliance said:

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This one completely changed the course of r&b back in the mid to late 80s. As you can hear the difference from everything that came before and afterwards I think that this one is a much better example of albums that have changed music as opposed to being just influential...if that is possible.

no

IMO, :

1. Thriller - Michael Jackson

2. Prince - Purple Rain

3. Sex Pistols - Nevermind blah blah

4. Run DMC - Raising Hell

5. Pink Floyd - The Wall

6. Nirvana - Nevermind

7. NKOTB - Sure there were boy bands forever, but they were the blueprint for the resurgence in the 90s with Take That, Backstreet Boys, NYSYNC, etc.

8. Blondie

9. AC/DC - Back in Black

SagsWay2low said:

Unholyalliance said:

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This one completely changed the course of r&b back in the mid to late 80s. As you can hear the difference from everything that came before and afterwards I think that this one is a much better example of albums that have changed music as opposed to being just influential...if that is possible.

no

Again, before Janet, radio would not play two female artist on the radio back to back. The influence of this album lead to the successes of Jody's solo debut, Vanessa Williams, Shanice, Karyn White, Nia Peebles, Tracy Spencer and Paula Adbul. So, uhh, YES!!!

SagsWay2low said:

NDRU said:

no I know they did not invent this style of music, they sure changed what everyone was doing! To this day, people are still copying it.

I remember the day this thing knocked Micheal Jackson's album off it's lofty perch.

It came from nowhere and just changed the landscape of popular music for years.

Oddly, Nirvana offered nothing new. If you strip away the 'grunge' label, it's really

just basic rock n roll, a bit punk influenced and such, but rock and roll none-the-less.

But what seemed like for ages, groups started to emulate them. I got sick of all of these

baratone metal singers trying to over emphasize their 'r's in songs and such.

The oddest thing is the band itself HATED the grunge title they were being tagged. They truly only saw themselves as a rock act. A punk-influenced act. When this album became a success, they became a brand and that went against everything they stood for.

SagsWay2low said:

IMO, :

1. Thriller - Michael Jackson

2. Prince - Purple Rain

3. Sex Pistols - Nevermind blah blah

4. Run DMC - Raising Hell

5. Pink Floyd - The Wall

6. Nirvana - Nevermind

7. NKOTB - Sure there were boy bands forever, but they were the blueprint for the resurgence in the 90s with Take That, Backstreet Boys, NYSYNC, etc.

8. Blondie

9. AC/DC - Back in Black

No. NKOTB was nothing but a white version of New Edition (which was a new version of the J5 and Temptations). They were a predecessor to all of those you mentioned, but they didn't change anything.

I just thought of another one:

sosgemini said:

SagsWay2low said:

no

Again, before Janet, radio would not play two female artist on the radio back to back. The influence of this album lead to the successes of Jody's solo debut, Vanessa Williams, Shanice, Karyn White, Nia Peebles, Tracy Spencer and Paula Adbul. So, uhh, YES!!!

Thank you. Control made the industry stand up and take notice of the dance-diva of color, and spaked the success of all of these albums

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SagsWay2low said:

Unholyalliance said:

[img:$uid]http://i.imgur.com/h5jMh.jpg[/img:$uid]

This one completely changed the course of r&b back in the mid to late 80s. As you can hear the difference from everything that came before and afterwards I think that this one is a much better example of albums that have changed music as opposed to being just influential...if that is possible.

no

Are you familair with any r&b/dance-pop from the mid 1980s-present?

I remember the day this thing knocked Micheal Jackson's album off it's lofty perch.

It came from nowhere and just changed the landscape of popular music for years.

I thought that this was kinda confined to America and not the rest of the world.

sosgemini said:

Again, before Janet, radio would not play two female artist on the radio back to back.

The Go-Gos, Pat Benetar, Cyndi Lauper, Heart, Stevie Nicks/Fleetwood Mac, Linda Ronstadt, Donna Summer, Banarama, Aretha Franklin, Natalie Cole, The Jones Girls, Melissa Manchester, Emotions, Deniece Williams, etc. were pre-Control and I heard more than one of them played back to back various times. A lot of disco was female singers too. Then there were the many girl groups popular in the 1960's.

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MickyDolenz said:

sosgemini said:

Again, before Janet, radio would not play two female artist on the radio back to back.

The Go-Gos, Pat Benetar, Cyndi Lauper, Heart, Stevie Nicks/Fleetwood Mac, Linda Ronstadt, Donna Summer, Banarama, Aretha Franklin, Natalie Cole, The Jones Girls, Melissa Manchester, Emotions, Deniece Williams, etc. were pre-Control and I heard them played back to back various times. A lot of disco was female singers too. Then there were the many girl groups popular in the 1960's.

Control made the post-disco-era dance diva of color a commodity. Before it, there were no black, hispanic, mixed-race what-have-you full-on dance divas out in the forefront. After Control, record companies wanted the next Janet, that is why we got Vanessa, Karyn, Jody, Paula etc. shaking their moneymakers in lively, choreography-heavy videos to pulsing dance tracks. Look at Vanessa's "The Right Stuff" video, or Karyn White's "Secret Rendezvous", and you can see it.

SEANMAN said:

MickyDolenz said:

The Go-Gos, Pat Benetar, Cyndi Lauper, Heart, Stevie Nicks/Fleetwood Mac, Linda Ronstadt, Donna Summer, Banarama, Aretha Franklin, Natalie Cole, The Jones Girls, Melissa Manchester, Emotions, Deniece Williams, etc. were pre-Control and I heard them played back to back various times. A lot of disco was female singers too. Then there were the many girl groups popular in the 1960's.

Control made the post-disco-era dance diva of color a commodity. Before it, there were no black, hispanic, mixed-race what-have-you full-on dance divas out in the forefront. After Control, record companies wanted the next Janet, that is why we got Vanessa, Karyn, Jody, Paula etc. shaking their moneymakers in lively, choreography-heavy videos to pulsing dance tracks. Look at Vanessa's "The Right Stuff" video, or Karyn White's "Secret Rendezvous", and you can see it.

That post didn't say anything about race, nor dance diva. It said radio did not play two female acts in a row, which is not true.

^^^Yes it is, Casie Kassam said it himself. So there!

People be tripping, seriously!

Micky, first off, I just woke up and could be oversensitive but how about before calling someone a liar you ask them for further clarification. I know this is the internet and all but try to remember their are actual people behind these typed words and avis because calling someone a lair real dickish thing to wake up to.

Why Cassie Kassam made the statement during his top 40 radioshow is beyond me but the statement was made. And being that the dude was in radio during the 80s and your ass wasn't, well, take it what you may.

Fucking people. Seriously!

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Sosgemini and SEANMAN does have a point considering there weren't that many dance-pop divas before Janet (and Madonna). The both of them made a way for the other women to emerge. So I can see how "Control" changed that part of music in that regard. It definitely was a music changer.

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