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Harlepolis said:

daPrettyman said:

U could actually go back to his debut. I think it had a bit more impact than this one.

Both are equally important IMO. Folks were keeping their ears open for this cat, they were hungry for something new from him eversince his debut, and when this album came out, they fully embraced it.

I'm inclined to mention this as well...

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Good album but do you think it really changed the face of music? "Baduizm" was released a few years prior to this.

PDogz said:

I know not many people here are into bluegrass or country, but this is an important album

post 1955: (for better or worse)

Elvis - Elvis Presley

Little Richard - Here's Little Richard

James Brown - Live at the Apollo

Bob Dylan - Freewheelin' Bob Dylan

The Beatles - A Hard Day's Night

Bob Dylan - Highway 65

The Byrds - Mr.Tambourine Man

The Beatles - Revolver

The Rolling Stones - Aftermath

Beach Boys - Pet Sounds

Bob Dylan - Blonde On Blonde

The Beatles - Sgt.Peppers

Hendrix - Are You Experienced

Pink Floyd - The Piper at the Gates of Dawn

The Beatles - White Album

Elvis - NBC Special

Led Zeppelin - II

Black Sabbath - Paranoid

Marvin Gaye - What's Goin' On

Parliament - Maggot Brain

Led Zeppelin - IV

The Rolling Stones - Exile on Main St.

Stevie Wonder - Talking Book

David Bowie - Ziggy Stardust

Bob Marley - Burnin'

Roxy Music - For Your Pleasure

Marvin Gaye - Let's Get It On

Stevie Wonder - Innervisions

Peter Frampton - Comes Alive

Aerosmith - Rocks

Ramones - Ramones

David Bowie - Low

Kraftwerk - Trans-Europe Express

Television - Marquee Moon

Sex Pistols - Nevermind with the Bollocks

Judas Priest - Stained Class

Blondie - Paralell Lines

The Clash - London Calling

Prince - Dirty Mind

Depeche Mode - Speak and Spell

The Human League - Dare

Michael Jackson - Thriller

Prince - 1999

Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast

Def Leppard - Pyromania

Madonna - Madonna

RUN DMC - RUN DMC

Prince - Purple Rain

Bruce Springsteen - Born in the USA

Whitney Houston - Whitney Houston

Metallica - Master of Puppets

Slayer - Reign in Blood

Janet Jackson - Control

U2- The Joshua Tree

Guns N' Roses - Appetite for Destruction

Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions

Depeche Mode - Violator

Metallica - Metallica

Nirvana - Nevermind

Primal Scream - Screamadelica

Dr.Dre - The Chronic

Sepultura - Chaos AD

Blur - Parklife

Nine Inch Nails - Downward Spiral

Korn - Korn

Notorious BIG - Ready to Die

Mariah Carey - Daydream

Bjork - Post

Beck - Odelay

Spice Girls - Spice

Goldie - Timeless

Madonna - Ray of Light

Shania Twain - Come On Over

Backstreet Boys - Millenium

Eminem - Marshall Matters LP

Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory

Slipknot - Iowa

System of a Down - Toxicity

The Strokes - Is This It

Kanye West - College Dropout

Arcade Fire - Funeral

Amy Whinehouse - Back to Black

Britney Spears - Blackout

David Guetta - One Love

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I agree that the Prince sound, such as on 1999 and Purple Rain did that

Control is another good example

I believe Thriller set a blueprint too, especially for the structure of good albums, and how so many songs were starting to sound influenced by Billie Jean and Beat It right after, or even PYT or WBSS. Songs like Like A Virgin, Carribbean Queen etc.

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Although "smooth jazz" existed before this album, it was pretty much the first one that really caught on with mainstream listeners.

Kenny G isn't a Jazz artist.

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JoeTyler said:

post 1955: (for better or worse)

Elvis - Elvis Presley

Little Richard - Here's Little Richard

James Brown - Live at the Apollo

Bob Dylan - Freewheelin' Bob Dylan

The Beatles - A Hard Day's Night

Bob Dylan - Highway 65

The Byrds - Mr.Tambourine Man

The Beatles - Revolver

The Rolling Stones - Aftermath

Beach Boys - Pet Sounds

Bob Dylan - Blonde On Blonde

The Beatles - Sgt.Peppers

Hendrix - Are You Experienced

Pink Floyd - The Piper at the Gates of Dawn

The Beatles - White Album

Elvis - NBC Special

Led Zeppelin - II

Black Sabbath - Paranoid

Marvin Gaye - What's Goin' On

Parliament - Maggot Brain

Led Zeppelin - IV

The Rolling Stones - Exile on Main St.

Stevie Wonder - Talking Book

David Bowie - Ziggy Stardust

Bob Marley - Burnin'

Roxy Music - For Your Pleasure

Marvin Gaye - Let's Get It On

Stevie Wonder - Innervisions

Peter Frampton - Comes Alive

Aerosmith - Rocks

Ramones - Ramones

David Bowie - Low

Kraftwerk - Trans-Europe Express

Television - Marquee Moon

Sex Pistols - Nevermind with the Bollocks

Judas Priest - Stained Class

Blondie - Paralell Lines

The Clash - London Calling

Prince - Dirty Mind

Depeche Mode - Speak and Spell

The Human League - Dare

Michael Jackson - Thriller

Prince - 1999

Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast

Def Leppard - Pyromania

Madonna - Madonna

RUN DMC - RUN DMC

Prince - Purple Rain

Bruce Springsteen - Born in the USA

Whitney Houston - Whitney Houston

Metallica - Master of Puppets

Slayer - Reign in Blood

Janet Jackson - Control

U2- The Joshua Tree

Guns N' Roses - Appetite for Destruction

Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions

Depeche Mode - Violator

Metallica - Metallica

Nirvana - Nevermind

Primal Scream - Screamadelica

Dr.Dre - The Chronic

Sepultura - Chaos AD

Blur - Parklife

Nine Inch Nails - Downward Spiral

Korn - Korn

Notorious BIG - Ready to Die

Mariah Carey - Daydream

Bjork - Post

Beck - Odelay

Spice Girls - Spice

Goldie - Timeless

Madonna - Ray of Light

Shania Twain - Come On Over

Backstreet Boys - Millenium

Eminem - Marshall Matters LP

Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory

Slipknot - Iowa

System of a Down - Toxicity

The Strokes - Is This It

Kanye West - College Dropout

Arcade Fire - Funeral

Amy Whinehouse - Back to Black

Britney Spears - Blackout

David Guetta - One Love

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Joe Tyler gets my vote for most extensive music knowledge on The Org. Dude, u should start a magazine. Most agree, Rolling Stone has lost it

trueiopian said:

Kenny G isn't a Jazz artist.

You work for the Wynton Marsalis jazz police, eh? I didn't say Kenny was jazz, but "smooth jazz". Smooth or contemporary jazz is just another word for instrumental R&B & pop for yuppies/buppies and Kenny made it popular. Miles Davis says there's no such thing as jazz at all and it's a racist word.

datdude said:

JoeTyler said:

post 1955: (for better or worse)

Elvis - Elvis Presley

Little Richard - Here's Little Richard

James Brown - Live at the Apollo

Bob Dylan - Freewheelin' Bob Dylan

The Beatles - A Hard Day's Night

Bob Dylan - Highway 65

The Byrds - Mr.Tambourine Man

The Beatles - Revolver

The Rolling Stones - Aftermath

Beach Boys - Pet Sounds

Bob Dylan - Blonde On Blonde

The Beatles - Sgt.Peppers

Hendrix - Are You Experienced

Pink Floyd - The Piper at the Gates of Dawn

The Beatles - White Album

Elvis - NBC Special

Led Zeppelin - II

Black Sabbath - Paranoid

Marvin Gaye - What's Goin' On

Parliament - Maggot Brain

Led Zeppelin - IV

The Rolling Stones - Exile on Main St.

Stevie Wonder - Talking Book

David Bowie - Ziggy Stardust

Bob Marley - Burnin'

Roxy Music - For Your Pleasure

Marvin Gaye - Let's Get It On

Stevie Wonder - Innervisions

Peter Frampton - Comes Alive

Aerosmith - Rocks

Ramones - Ramones

David Bowie - Low

Kraftwerk - Trans-Europe Express

Television - Marquee Moon

Sex Pistols - Nevermind with the Bollocks

Judas Priest - Stained Class

Blondie - Paralell Lines

The Clash - London Calling

Prince - Dirty Mind

Depeche Mode - Speak and Spell

The Human League - Dare

Michael Jackson - Thriller

Prince - 1999

Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast

Def Leppard - Pyromania

Madonna - Madonna

RUN DMC - RUN DMC

Prince - Purple Rain

Bruce Springsteen - Born in the USA

Whitney Houston - Whitney Houston

Metallica - Master of Puppets

Slayer - Reign in Blood

Janet Jackson - Control

U2- The Joshua Tree

Guns N' Roses - Appetite for Destruction

Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions

Depeche Mode - Violator

Metallica - Metallica

Nirvana - Nevermind

Primal Scream - Screamadelica

Dr.Dre - The Chronic

Sepultura - Chaos AD

Blur - Parklife

Nine Inch Nails - Downward Spiral

Korn - Korn

Notorious BIG - Ready to Die

Mariah Carey - Daydream

Bjork - Post

Beck - Odelay

Spice Girls - Spice

Goldie - Timeless

Madonna - Ray of Light

Shania Twain - Come On Over

Backstreet Boys - Millenium

Eminem - Marshall Matters LP

Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory

Slipknot - Iowa

System of a Down - Toxicity

The Strokes - Is This It

Kanye West - College Dropout

Arcade Fire - Funeral

Amy Whinehouse - Back to Black

Britney Spears - Blackout

David Guetta - One Love

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Joe Tyler gets my vote for most extensive music knowledge on The Org. Dude, u should start a magazine. Most agree, Rolling Stone has lost it

I always wanted to work at Penthouse, as a photographer...

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MickyDolenz said:

trueiopian said:

Kenny G isn't a Jazz artist.

You work for the Wynton Marsalis jazz police, eh? I didn't say Kenny was jazz, but "smooth jazz". Smooth or contemporary jazz is just another word for instrumental R&B & pop for yuppies/buppies and Kenny made it popular. Miles Davis says there's no such thing as jazz at all and it's a racist word.

Thank you my friend '

I like Kenny G, idc he get's a lot of crap from people who like to call him such thing's as the ''Vanilla Ice'' of jazz but he's a talented guy

MickyDolenz said:

You work for the Wynton Marsalis jazz police, eh? I didn't say Kenny was jazz, but "smooth jazz". Smooth or contemporary jazz is just another word for instrumental R&B & pop for yuppies/buppies and Kenny made it popular. Miles Davis says there's no such thing as jazz at all and it's a racist word.

No.

JoeTyler said:

datdude said:

Joe Tyler gets my vote for most extensive music knowledge on The Org. Dude, u should start a magazine. Most agree, Rolling Stone has lost it

I always wanted to work at Penthouse, as a photographer...

trueiopian said:

MickyDolenz said:

You work for the Wynton Marsalis jazz police, eh? I didn't say Kenny was jazz, but "smooth jazz". Smooth or contemporary jazz is just another word for instrumental R&B & pop for yuppies/buppies and Kenny made it popular. Miles Davis says there's no such thing as jazz at all and it's a racist word.

No.

Take it up with the "smooth jazz" stations (generally called something like "The Wave") all over the USA that play the Kenny G, Najee, Gerald Albright, etc. music. I didn't name it that, and don't care really. If you want to waste time nitpicking over something that's not even important, go right ahead. With someone else that is.

did anyone mention Paul's Boutique from the Beastie's? (moreso than Licensed to Ill which was really a Run DMC album since they wrote it).

Also, Urban Hang Suite from Maxwell

People's Instinctive Travels & Paths of Rhythm/3 Feet High & Rising - ATCQ/DeLa Soul

MickyDolenz said:

trueiopian said:

No.

Take it up with the "smooth jazz" stations (generally called something like "The Wave") all over the USA that play the Kenny G, Najee, Gerald Albright, etc. music. I didn't name it that, and don't care really. If you want to waste time nitpicking over something that's not even important, go right ahead. With someone else that is.

It's not that serious.

trueiopian said:

MickyDolenz said:

Take it up with the "smooth jazz" stations (generally called something like "The Wave") all over the USA that play the Kenny G, Najee, Gerald Albright, etc. music. I didn't name it that, and don't care really. If you want to waste time nitpicking over something that's not even important, go right ahead. With someone else that is.

It's not that serious.

she popularized 'girl power' in many ways... i grew up around girls who wanted to BE madonna when this album came out.

they took 'the message' to a whole 'nother level. they used hip hop solely to spead socio-political messages like not many had none before.

like it or not, shawn carter inspired a whole wave of hip hop, fighting between materialism and political consciousness... some did it way better than him, but for many, this man is a point of reference.

those in the west could finally play like the jamaicans, hee hee...

huey lewis came out of the sessions for this album... you know what happened there... and many were inspired by the 'stream of consciousness', bar-band style too.

this begat the whole 'riot grrrl' phenomenon, in many ways... even more than bands like the slits. i mean, kathleen hanna even jacked poly styrene's vocal style.

even though they were big in the CBGB's scene, this was the album which brought punk and hip hop together, for all intents and purposes. remember the 'wild style' collaboration?

even though joan armatrading, terry collier and odetta came before her, ms. chapman popularized the genre for the masses, in my opinion.

this is the first major 'mashup' record i can recall, and still, one of the best.

and the on-u/adrian sherwood/tackhead catalog... which inspired everything from 'industrial', hip hop and reggae... sherwood (with doug wimbish, skip mc donald and keith leblanc) played on 'the message', as well as essentially being the initial force behind those nine inch nails songs. he then worked with lee perry...

people were like, 'you mean black people play... ROCK music?' hee hee... and of course wimbish has associations here as well.

smoothcriminal12 said:

While I think its awesome that you included Thriller, because it did help to shape yesterday's post-disco into today's dance-pop & a lot of other things (and took way too long for someone to post here), I think it's still way too early to post JM's album. Influence takes about 20 years to show itself. That album just came out last year and I don't know if anyone can hear its the infleunce in the work of today's music/artist. Also, its influence hasn't even shown any dominance on the Billboard charts. I mean, I want to post Kanye West's My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy because it's a wonderful album, but I think it's still too early.

Maybe in the future though? Eveything on the radio still sounds hella different from it.

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wow, really???

that album, despite the excellent songwriting, arrived 2 years late...

MJJstudent said:

she popularized 'girl power' in many ways... i grew up around girls who wanted to BE madonna when this album came out.

they took 'the message' to a whole 'nother level. they used hip hop solely to spead socio-political messages like not many had none before.

like it or not, shawn carter inspired a whole wave of hip hop, fighting between materialism and political consciousness... some did it way better than him, but for many, this man is a point of reference.

those in the west could finally play like the jamaicans, hee hee...

huey lewis came out of the sessions for this album... you know what happened there... and many were inspired by the 'stream of consciousness', bar-band style too.

this begat the whole 'riot grrrl' phenomenon, in many ways... even more than bands like the slits. i mean, kathleen hanna even jacked poly styrene's vocal style.

even though they were big in the CBGB's scene, this was the album which brought punk and hip hop together, for all intents and purposes. remember the 'wild style' collaboration?

even though joan armatrading, terry collier and odetta came before her, ms. chapman popularized the genre for the masses, in my opinion.

this is the first major 'mashup' record i can recall, and still, one of the best.

and the on-u/adrian sherwood/tackhead catalog... which inspired everything from 'industrial', hip hop and reggae... sherwood (with doug wimbish, skip mc donald and keith leblanc) played on 'the message', as well as essentially being the initial force behind those nine inch nails songs. he then worked with lee perry...

people were like, 'you mean black people play... ROCK music?' hee hee... and of course wimbish has associations here as well.

I got Germ Free Adolescents playing on my stereo and I definitely agree especially with the tone of Poly's voice. Just great stuff! Definitely a precursor to the riot grrrl movement.

Unholyalliance said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

While I think its awesome that you included Thriller, because it did help to shape yesterday's post-disco into today's dance-pop & a lot of other things (and took way too long for someone to post here), I think it's still way too early to post JM's album. Influence takes about 20 years to show itself. That album just came out last year and I don't know if anyone can hear its the infleunce in the work of today's music/artist. Also, its influence hasn't even shown any dominance on the Billboard charts. I mean, I want to post Kanye West's My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy because it's a wonderful album, but I think it's still too early.

Maybe in the future though? Eveything on the radio still sounds hella different from it.

I was just joking with The ArchAndroid. Maybe one day, though.

MBDTF is definitely a possibility. I think that The ArchAndroid might become one of those "Forgotten Classics" like Dirty Mind or Controversy, that changed the game but were never too popular.

And yeah, I was flipping out when I saw that Thriller hadn't been posted yet. . I expected it to be in the first reply.

NDRU said:

nobody's going to challenge this choice?