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Reply #150 posted 03/24/11 7:37pm

mookie

Elizabeth Taylor's Funeral Delayed 15 Minutes at Her Request

Thursday March 24, 2011 09:00 PM

She was a Hollywood original to the end.

Elizabeth Taylor was laid to rest Thursday at Forest Lawn Memorial Park in Glendale, Calif., in a small, private funeral attended by friends and family that began 15 minutes after schedule – under instructions she left.

"She even wanted to be late for her own funeral," a family rep said
in a statement.

Taylor's casket was closed and draped with gardenias, violets, and lily of the valley. She was interred in The Great Mausoleum, the same resting place for her longtime friend Michael Jackson.

The one-hour, multi-denominational service officated by Rabbi Jerry Cutler included a reading by actor Colin Farrell, a friend of Taylor's, of Gerard Manley Hopkins’s poem "The Leaden Echo and the Golden Echo."

Taylor's son Michael Wilding, her daughter Liza and her grandson Tarquin Wilding also read selections, and her grandson Rhys Tivey performed a trumpet solo of "Amazing Grace."

The acting legend died Wednesday at the age of 79.

Taylor is survived by four children and 10 grandchildren.

A public service in her honor is expected to he held at a later date.

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Reply #151 posted 03/24/11 7:40pm

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Timmy84 said:

Marrk said:

No disrespect but you answered your own question, none of that makes any sense. Why would an employee blurt out over the phone (to a fan at that!) that he's never been there?

What Jacksons TV show? if it's what aired last year, there was no footage of the brothers driving to a cemetary at all.I've seen footage of Randy there and stills of other family members. Fans continually go there to this day, and employees take gifts from them. Why would these employees continue to do that if their was a leak saying different?

There are celebs equally as famous as Mike there. The scum in the press would be all over his whereabouts if they got a sniff. Don't fuel them. I'm 100% sure he's there sadly.

[Edited 3/24/11 17:47pm]

True. It's good this way though because those idiots won't get in there anyway. So she'll be resting in peace before they know about it.

The only people who speculate that MJ isn't there are those who's want to believe he is alive or in conspiracies. He is there. End of story.

"I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love"
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Reply #152 posted 03/24/11 7:48pm

Timmy84

Swa said:

Timmy84 said:

True. It's good this way though because those idiots won't get in there anyway. So she'll be resting in peace before they know about it.

The only people who speculate that MJ isn't there are those who's want to believe he is alive or in conspiracies. He is there. End of story.

Of course lol

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Reply #153 posted 03/24/11 11:41pm

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DAMN! Didn't she just die 30 minutes and they already had the funeral?

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Reply #154 posted 03/24/11 11:52pm

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Swa said:

Timmy84 said:

True. It's good this way though because those idiots won't get in there anyway. So she'll be resting in peace before they know about it.

The only people who speculate that MJ isn't there are those who's want to believe he is alive or in conspiracies. He is there. End of story.

why would his family acknowledge his not being there then, as well as the forest lawn folks? it's not conspiracy to me; nor do i believe he is still walking on this earth. the thing is, i make the decision to examine everything reported about michael. i haven't seen him there... i have not seen his name associated with being there, so why should i believe he is there- especially if his family stated they did not want to say where he was?

it may be 'end of story' for you, but for me, there's something clearly wrong with the picture presented. i don't believe in satisfaction with major media presentation. i'm just going to respectfully agree to dis-agree.

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Reply #155 posted 03/24/11 11:52pm

Timmy84

ViintageJunkiie said:

DAMN! Didn't she just die 30 minutes and they already had the funeral?

Yep. Didn't waste no time. cool I think it was due to her religion (she converted to Judaism ages ago) that they decide to hold the funeral right away. It wasn't real clear on how Michael's funeral was to be handled but it was clearer with Liz.

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Reply #156 posted 03/24/11 11:54pm

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Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

DAMN! Didn't she just die 30 minutes and they already had the funeral?

Yep. Didn't waste no time. cool I think it was due to her religion (she converted to Judaism ages ago) that they decide to hold the funeral right away. It wasn't real clear on how Michael's funeral was to be handled but it was clearer with Liz.

Thats crazy!

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Reply #157 posted 03/25/11 12:00am

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:

Yep. Didn't waste no time. cool I think it was due to her religion (she converted to Judaism ages ago) that they decide to hold the funeral right away. It wasn't real clear on how Michael's funeral was to be handled but it was clearer with Liz.

Thats crazy!

Has to make a certain group of attention-whoring bible thumpers PISSED! lol They got PUNK'D! evillol

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Reply #158 posted 03/25/11 12:02am

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Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Thats crazy!

Has to make a certain group of attention-whoring bible thumpers PISSED! lol They got PUNK'D! evillol

LOL! Liz was like "hurry up and bury my ass!"

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Reply #159 posted 03/25/11 12:08am

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Marrk said:

MJJstudent said:

this may actually be the case... it's already been given away (by the jackson family, forest lawn and several stories in the press) that michael is not at forest lawn. i have been trying to find links which mention this, and i can't seem to find them anymore. hmmmmmmmmmmm...

there have also been some curious fans who have been digging deeper into this whole thing, and they phoned forest lawn, and this was their answer: "michael is not at forest lawn, and he has never been there." this actually matches a lot of the reports which came out (that somehow i am no longer able to retrieve- i should have screen saved that stuff). one report mentioned that 'the jackson family is secretive about where they are keeping michael,' right after this whole writeup about the fans at the mausoleum. that really set off alarms in my head. if he were actually at the mausoleum, why would the family keep his location a secret? does this even make sense?

somewhere in this whole narrative are a bunch of lies. some who have watched that jacksons' tv show also noted that the brothers were not driving to forest lawn when they went to see michael, but some other cemetary. i haven't watched the show, so i cannot say if this is the case. but there are a lot of distractions so that people will not follow up on truth.

forest lawn has security (especially after the michael thing) so if westboro goes to forest lawn security most likely will not let them in, and ms. taylor most likely WILL be buried beside her parents, safely.

i'm glad you posted that last sentence. i'm glad there is still some media skepticism surrounding this issue (particularly where TMZ (owned by time warner) is concerned).

No disrespect but you answered your own question, none of that makes any sense. Why would an employee blurt out over the phone (to a fan at that!) that he's never been there?

What Jacksons TV show? if it's what aired last year, there was no footage of the brothers driving to a cemetary at all.I've seen footage of Randy there and stills of other family members. Fans continually go there to this day, and employees take gifts from them. Why would these employees continue to do that if their was a leak saying different?

There are celebs equally as famous as Mike there. The scum in the press would be all over his whereabouts if they got a sniff. Don't fuel them. I'm 100% sure he's there sadly.

[Edited 3/24/11 17:47pm]

hmmmmm... i actually saw a portion of the brothers' tv show, where they were driving to a cemetary. they were stating they were going to see michael, when the sign clearly did not sat 'forest lawn'. this is actually one of the factors which egged on the hoax people. if i can find something on youtube or whatever, i'll post it.

let's just say that he actually was NOT at forest lawn (which i don't think he is). if the staff stated he is not there; plus the family has stated they are keeping where he is a secret, what is all that about then? none of that seems right to me.

it's either the family working to keep people away from forest lawn, OR HE'S ACTUALLY NOT THERE. it's got to be one or the other.

it's also fishy to me that the fans can't even get REMOTELY close to the mausoleum... other celebrities are able to be viewed (with security around). the distance people are only able to view michael is ridiculous. no one is saying you have to touch him. and yes, i actually read the statement of 'rules' from forest lawn. and it seems to me that the situation with michael is different.

"The scum in the press would be all over his whereabouts if they got a sniff."

perhaps this is why the family is keeping where he ACTUALLY is a secret? is that not a possibility? and you are inferring that he is at forest lawn. so wouldn't the press know of his whereabouts if that's where he is?

i'm not sure why people are opposed to asking questions regarding anything having to do with michael's transition. i am highly skeptical about everything having to do with 25 june 2009- except for the fact that michael is no longer here.

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Reply #160 posted 03/25/11 12:25am

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Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

DAMN! Didn't she just die 30 minutes and they already had the funeral?

Yep. Didn't waste no time. cool I think it was due to her religion (she converted to Judaism ages ago) that they decide to hold the funeral right away. It wasn't real clear on how Michael's funeral was to be handled but it was clearer with Liz.

i think in michael's case they had to run a bunch of tests and do the autopsy and such... and there was the whole debate of whether or not michael converted to islam... if he were muslim he would have had to been buried within three days. clearly that did not happen.

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Reply #161 posted 03/25/11 12:36am

Timmy84

MJJstudent said:

Timmy84 said:

Yep. Didn't waste no time. cool I think it was due to her religion (she converted to Judaism ages ago) that they decide to hold the funeral right away. It wasn't real clear on how Michael's funeral was to be handled but it was clearer with Liz.

i think in michael's case they had to run a bunch of tests and do the autopsy and such... and there was the whole debate of whether or not michael converted to islam... if he were muslim he would have had to been buried within three days. clearly that did not happen.

Michael wasn't tied to one religion anyways.

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Reply #162 posted 03/25/11 1:03am

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Timmy84 said:

MJJstudent said:

i think in michael's case they had to run a bunch of tests and do the autopsy and such... and there was the whole debate of whether or not michael converted to islam... if he were muslim he would have had to been buried within three days. clearly that did not happen.

Michael wasn't tied to one religion anyways.

he was still very rooted in the JW faith (understandably) and still mentioned GOD as 'jehovah', but no, he never claimed a specific faith after he left the JWs. i love the piece he wrote entitled 'god':

"It's strange that God doesn't mind expressing Himself/Herself in all the religions of the world, while people still cling to the notion that their way is the only right way. Whatever you try to say about God, someone will take offense, even if you say everyone's love of God is right for them.

For me the form God takes is not the most important thing. What's most important is the essence. My songs and dances are outlines for Him to come in and fill. I hold out the form. She puts in the sweetness.

I've looked up at the night sky and beheld the stars so intimately close, it was as if my grandmother had made them for me.
"How rich, how sumptuous," I thought. In that moment I saw God in His creation. I could as easily have seen Her in the beauty of a rainbow, the grace of a deer bounding through a meadow, the truth of a father's kiss. But for me the sweetest contact with God has no form.
I close my eyes, look within, and enter a deep soft silence.
The infinity of God's creation embraces me. We are one."

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Reply #163 posted 03/25/11 1:44am

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what are some peoples' favourite performances of michael's, from his 'solo' tours?

some of mine are :

-human nature (bad tour, brisbane)

-billie jean (dangerous tour, bucharest)

-beat it (dangerous tour rehearsal)

-wanna be startin' somethin' (bad tour, yokohama)

-dangerous (HIStory tour, munich)

-earth song (brunei performance)

-smooth criminal (bad tour, wembley)

-workin' day and night (bad tour, tokyo)

-rock with you (bad tour, yokohama)

-another part of me (the footage is a mixture of the paris and wembley shows, but i believe the audio is from wembley... it's my favourite audio of the live versions- and to me, michael's greatest teaching)

[Edited 4/20/11 1:04am]

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Reply #164 posted 03/25/11 2:09am

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For those who were members of The Michael Jackson Vault forum, it's back open after a long hiatus! biggrin

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #165 posted 03/25/11 7:06am

suga10

You all can laugh at me as much as you like.

But I still MJ is alive.

There was way too much money involved if he didn't do those concerts, and its just way too bizarre that he passed away right after the last rehearsal. Everyone knew he was not going to make it through 50 shows given his age and all, and the way those shows were scheduled to begin with.

And then all the money started generating right after he passed. How bizarre does this get?

He was everyone's cash cow. The artist gets what they want last, and the record companies get their way first, and so do the people who surround the artists- the leeches. They benefit big time also.

There's a reason why the Jacksons and Riley are not shutting up about Michael. The same with TMZ and Levin. They know things are not adding up.

[Edited 3/25/11 7:08am]

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Reply #166 posted 03/25/11 7:11am

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suga10 said:

You all can laugh at me as much as you like.

But I still MJ is alive.

There was way too much money involved if he didn't do those concerts, and its just way too bizarre that he passed away right after the last rehearsal. Everyone knew he was not going to make it through 50 shows given his age and all, and the way those shows were scheduled to begin with.

And then all the money started generating right after he passed. How bizarre does this get?

He was everyone's cash cow. The artist gets what they want last, and the record companies get their way first, and so do the people who surround the artists- the leeches. They benefit big time also.

There's a reason why the Jacksons and Riley are not shutting up about Michael. The same with TMZ and Levin. They know things are not adding up.

[Edited 3/25/11 7:08am]

So you think Paris faked tears at her fathers memorial???

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Reply #167 posted 03/25/11 8:10am

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MattyJam said:

suga10 said:

You all can laugh at me as much as you like.

But I still MJ is alive.

There was way too much money involved if he didn't do those concerts, and its just way too bizarre that he passed away right after the last rehearsal. Everyone knew he was not going to make it through 50 shows given his age and all, and the way those shows were scheduled to begin with.

And then all the money started generating right after he passed. How bizarre does this get?

He was everyone's cash cow. The artist gets what they want last, and the record companies get their way first, and so do the people who surround the artists- the leeches. They benefit big time also.

There's a reason why the Jacksons and Riley are not shutting up about Michael. The same with TMZ and Levin. They know things are not adding up.

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So you think Paris faked tears at her fathers memorial???

She was sad about the whole situation that happened.

But Prince on the otherhand was reacting as if nothing happened. And Prince was the one saw Michael upstairs, when Murray called him.

And a big producer like Teddy Riley would not risk his reputation for no reason- he knows something. He said that it was a conspiracy.

[Edited 3/25/11 8:17am]

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Reply #168 posted 03/25/11 8:30am

NMuzakNSoul

suga10 said:

MattyJam said:

So you think Paris faked tears at her fathers memorial???

She was sad about the whole situation that happened.

But Prince on the otherhand was reacting as if nothing happened. And Prince was the one saw Michael upstairs, when Murray called him.

And a big producer like Teddy Riley would not risk his reputation for no reason- he knows something. He said that it was a conspiracy.

[Edited 3/25/11 8:17am]

If Mike was alive I'd lose all respect for him. But he's not, just like Tupac isn't just like Elvis isn't. People that believe this have trouble with one thing...Letting go.

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Reply #169 posted 03/25/11 9:05am

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sad I'm sorry it made you sad. I wanted to make a tribute video on their great relationship and this is the result...two incredible people, whose bond will last forever sigh

your video was nice, but it made me think more about a friend of mine who physically left this earth last month. he was one of my closest friends, and it's really difficult to think about him right now. watching this just triggered that, is all... to know that michael and elizabeth shared this special relationship triggered the relationship i had with my friend.

barry was my rock, and i consider michael to be my life's teacher... so knowing that both my teacher and rock are gone also triggered a lot of stuff.

I'm sorry about your loss hug Its so hard losing someone close to you. rose

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Reply #170 posted 03/25/11 9:06am

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Very touching.

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Reply #171 posted 03/25/11 9:38am

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NMuzakNSoul said:

suga10 said:

She was sad about the whole situation that happened.

But Prince on the otherhand was reacting as if nothing happened. And Prince was the one saw Michael upstairs, when Murray called him.

And a big producer like Teddy Riley would not risk his reputation for no reason- he knows something. He said that it was a conspiracy.

[Edited 3/25/11 8:17am]

If Mike was alive I'd lose all respect for him. But he's not, just like Tupac isn't just like Elvis isn't. People that believe this have trouble with one thing...Letting go.

I was never some hardcore Michael Jackson fan- although I appreciated his music and all. So the

thing about letting go doesn't apply to me.

And in addition, you say you'd lose all respect for Michael, but all signs point to the situation

being beyond Michael's own control and will.

But whatever, I'm not trying to change people's mind, but that's just my own view of the whole

situation.

But if y'all are interested just look at what Teddy said:

http://twitter.com/teddyriley1 neutral

  1. @_Crescendo_ I never promised anyone anything so what are you saying. My loyalty is to MJ first and only. I don't care what ppl think.
  2. @veronicafall I believe in MJ more than you. I worked with him and still close to him. U better try someone else wit the BS.
  3. @popnwill I love yall too for support my bf. Let's stay strong and lift him up til he returns.
  4. @Dangerous_Inc Now that they got what they want let's see if they keep their word. I'm not talking about Sony either.
  5. @Dangerous_Inc This is MJ world that's controlled by the estate so they have Joe blow doing the mix on Hollywood tonight.
  6. @hawthornefairy1 PLS THINK POSITIVE THAT'S ALL MJ WOULD WANT.

[Edited 3/25/11 10:25am]

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Reply #172 posted 03/25/11 10:42am

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love I just gotta say how much I adore these pictures of them. They both look absolutely gorgeous! Like royalty. A king and his queen mushy

And in this pic we have the king, the queen, and the court jester lol

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Reply #173 posted 03/25/11 10:46am

NMuzakNSoul

suga10 said:

NMuzakNSoul said:

If Mike was alive I'd lose all respect for him. But he's not, just like Tupac isn't just like Elvis isn't. People that believe this have trouble with one thing...Letting go.

I was never some hardcore Michael Jackson fan- although I appreciated his music and all. So the

thing about letting go doesn't apply to me.

And in addition, you say you'd lose all respect for Michael, but all signs point to the situation

being beyond Michael's own control and will.

But whatever, I'm not trying to change people's mind, but that's just my own view of the whole

situation.

But if y'all are interested just look at what Teddy said:

http://twitter.com/teddyriley1 neutral

  1. @_Crescendo_ I never promised anyone anything so what are you saying. My loyalty is to MJ first and only. I don't care what ppl think.
  2. @veronicafall I believe in MJ more than you. I worked with him and still close to him. U better try someone else wit the BS.
  3. @popnwill I love yall too for support my bf. Let's stay strong and lift him up til he returns.
  4. @Dangerous_Inc Now that they got what they want let's see if they keep their word. I'm not talking about Sony either.
  5. @Dangerous_Inc This is MJ world that's controlled by the estate so they have Joe blow doing the mix on Hollywood tonight.
  6. @hawthornefairy1 PLS THINK POSITIVE THAT'S ALL MJ WOULD WANT.

[Edited 3/25/11 10:25am]

Points taken and thanks for explaining. But I think Teddy will do anything for money. He needed it. So he is more than happy to do anything to keep people talking about him. Simple PR.

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Reply #174 posted 03/25/11 10:53am

Timmy84

suga10 said:

NMuzakNSoul said:

If Mike was alive I'd lose all respect for him. But he's not, just like Tupac isn't just like Elvis isn't. People that believe this have trouble with one thing...Letting go.

I was never some hardcore Michael Jackson fan- although I appreciated his music and all. So the

thing about letting go doesn't apply to me.

And in addition, you say you'd lose all respect for Michael, but all signs point to the situation

being beyond Michael's own control and will.

But whatever, I'm not trying to change people's mind, but that's just my own view of the whole

situation.

But if y'all are interested just look at what Teddy said:

http://twitter.com/teddyriley1 neutral

  1. @_Crescendo_ I never promised anyone anything so what are you saying. My loyalty is to MJ first and only. I don't care what ppl think.
  2. @veronicafall I believe in MJ more than you. I worked with him and still close to him. U better try someone else wit the BS.
  3. @popnwill I love yall too for support my bf. Let's stay strong and lift him up til he returns.
  4. @Dangerous_Inc Now that they got what they want let's see if they keep their word. I'm not talking about Sony either.
  5. @Dangerous_Inc This is MJ world that's controlled by the estate so they have Joe blow doing the mix on Hollywood tonight.
  6. @hawthornefairy1 PLS THINK POSITIVE THAT'S ALL MJ WOULD WANT.

[Edited 3/25/11 10:25am]

Teddy need to sit his ass down.

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Reply #175 posted 03/25/11 11:22am

SherryJackson

Timmy84 said:

suga10 said:

I was never some hardcore Michael Jackson fan- although I appreciated his music and all. So the

thing about letting go doesn't apply to me.

And in addition, you say you'd lose all respect for Michael, but all signs point to the situation

being beyond Michael's own control and will.

But whatever, I'm not trying to change people's mind, but that's just my own view of the whole

situation.

But if y'all are interested just look at what Teddy said:

http://twitter.com/teddyriley1 neutral

  1. @_Crescendo_ I never promised anyone anything so what are you saying. My loyalty is to MJ first and only. I don't care what ppl think.
  2. @veronicafall I believe in MJ more than you. I worked with him and still close to him. U better try someone else wit the BS.
  3. @popnwill I love yall too for support my bf. Let's stay strong and lift him up til he returns.
  4. @Dangerous_Inc Now that they got what they want let's see if they keep their word. I'm not talking about Sony either.
  5. @Dangerous_Inc This is MJ world that's controlled by the estate so they have Joe blow doing the mix on Hollywood tonight.
  6. @hawthornefairy1 PLS THINK POSITIVE THAT'S ALL MJ WOULD WANT.

[Edited 3/25/11 10:25am]

Teddy need to sit his ass down.

Mmmmhmmmm nod hammer

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Reply #176 posted 03/25/11 11:29am

Timmy84

NMuzakNSoul said:

suga10 said:

She was sad about the whole situation that happened.

But Prince on the otherhand was reacting as if nothing happened. And Prince was the one saw Michael upstairs, when Murray called him.

And a big producer like Teddy Riley would not risk his reputation for no reason- he knows something. He said that it was a conspiracy.

[Edited 3/25/11 8:17am]

If Mike was alive I'd lose all respect for him. But he's not, just like Tupac isn't just like Elvis isn't. People that believe this have trouble with one thing...Letting go.

I never got why people even believe those stories. Like they can't fathom that they died the way they did. It's a part of our society that is troubling to me.

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Reply #177 posted 03/25/11 12:00pm

NMuzakNSoul

Timmy84 said:

NMuzakNSoul said:

If Mike was alive I'd lose all respect for him. But he's not, just like Tupac isn't just like Elvis isn't. People that believe this have trouble with one thing...Letting go.

I never got why people even believe those stories. Like they can't fathom that they died the way they did. It's a part of our society that is troubling to me.

Yeah Tim... one of the things about society that makes you go what? lol

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Reply #178 posted 03/25/11 12:24pm

Timmy84

NMuzakNSoul said:

Timmy84 said:

I never got why people even believe those stories. Like they can't fathom that they died the way they did. It's a part of our society that is troubling to me.

Yeah Tim... one of the things about society that makes you go what? lol

Right. lol

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Reply #179 posted 03/25/11 2:46pm

suga10

Teddy might look like some nutcase right now. Time will tell if he's really genuine.

[Edited 3/25/11 15:36pm]

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