SoulAlive said:

AlexdeParis said:

Are you ignoring me? I think Ray of Light is her definitive album (by a long shot, actually).

I'm sorry

I don't wanna hear, I don't wanna know, please don't say you're sorry.

AlexdeParis said:

SoulAlive said:

I'm sorry

I don't wanna hear, I don't wanna know, please don't say you're sorry.

You silly.

Listening to tracks from "Like a Prayer", I forget how consistent of a pop song craftmaker Madonna was. I remembered when "Keep It Together" was played on R&B stations when I was attending kindergarten.

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Timmy84 said:

Listening to tracks from "Like a Prayer", I forget how consistent of a pop song craftmaker Madonna was. I remembered when "Keep It Together" was played on R&B stations when I was attending kindergarten.

I hit the big time but I still get the blues

just giving to get something,always wanting something back

love the lyrics

The Blonde Ambition tour (LAP) was also no joke. Went from doing stadiums of True Blue tour back to arenas where you could actually SEE her. This was my first live show I caught from her.

That Keep It Together mentioned was a wink to Sly Stone.

Hell, even the Rolling Stone interview for this release was her best at that time ..maybe even till this day.

So we got patchoulli

adult themed songs

great pop tunes and dramatic awesome videos (Oh Father, Express Yourself, LAP)

The ballhyhooed Prince duet

The LAP video controversy

The Pepsi commerical that was pulled after five minutes

The great tour that brought us Truth Or Dare

Some of her best vocal chops on wax

Madonna being considered a serious arttist by her once staunch critics

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AlexdeParis said:

SoulAlive said:

who agrees with this? I wanna hear from someone who thinks ROL is Madonna's definitive album.I love this discussion

Are you ignoring me? I think Ray of Light is her definitive album (by a long shot, actually).

have you ever actually explained why?

i think ray of light is good, solid overall, but to me there are some definite filler tracks!!!

drowned word - i swear i have never understood the hype on this one. it's a good mood setter but when she named a tour after it, opened the show with it, friends of mine who hated madonna before were 'turned' by that song...my dad loves it...idk...i don't get it

nothing really matters - imo, the weakest of the upbeat tracks on there. never had a desire to hear this one in concert. it has 4 notes in it, and she wasted her first grammy performance on that mess. the bridge is weak (and bridges are a madge specialty!)

little star - gag me, i can't do this one

mer girl - lyrics are cool, but what a muddled mess of a track

that said, i luuuurve candy perfume girl, swim, shanti and the power of goodbye...frozen and ray of light are so played out to me...sky fits heaven and to have and not to hold also kick major ass

"Drowned World/Substitute For Love" is quite possibly,the best song that Madonna has ever done.I was listening to it yesterday on my iPod and after all these years,it still blows me away.Just an amazing song!

badujunkie said:

AlexdeParis said:

Are you ignoring me? I think Ray of Light is her definitive album (by a long shot, actually).

have you ever actually explained why?

It's her best album because there isn't any filler IMO. The Orbit sounds give it a cohesiveness her other albums don't have and it's the strongest collection of songs she's ever released. Lyrically, this is definitely the best Madonna album. I love that she reached a point she could release a song like "Little Star," which is so unabashedly full of love without being cheesy. "Mer Girl" is so morbid and vivid -- what a way to close it out. It definitely leaves a mark. I find "Nothing Really Matters" to be hypnotic; it certainly isn't filler to me. "The Power of Good-Bye" is my favorite Madonna song ever. "Drowned World/Substitute for Love," "Ray of Light," "Frozen," "Swim," "Skin," "To Have and Not to Hold"... those are some of the best individual songs she's done, but as a group they make an artistic statement unlike any other she's attempted. In short, the individual parts are awesome, but the whole package is even better.

Compare that to LAP, where there are some great singles and strong album tracks, but nothing really rises to the level of "Oh Father." No contest IMO.

AlexdeParis said:

badujunkie said:

have you ever actually explained why?

It's her best album because there isn't any filler IMO. The Orbit sounds give it a cohesiveness her other albums don't have and it's the strongest collection of songs she's ever released. Lyrically, this is definitely the best Madonna album. I love that she reached a point she could release a song like "Little Star," which is so unabashedly full of love without being cheesy. "Mer Girl" is so morbid and vivid -- what a way to close it out. It definitely leaves a mark. I find "Nothing Really Matters" to be hypnotic; it certainly isn't filler to me. "The Power of Good-Bye" is my favorite Madonna song ever. "Drowned World/Substitute for Love," "Ray of Light," "Frozen," "Swim," "Skin," "To Have and Not to Hold"... those are some of the best individual songs she's done, but as a group they make an artistic statement unlike any other she's attempted. In short, the individual parts are awesome, but the whole package is even better.

Compare that to LAP, where there are some great singles and strong album tracks, but nothing really rises to the level of "Oh Father." No contest IMO.

I remember buying 'Ray Of Light' the day it was released and spending that entire day listening to it over and over and over and over (lol).I fell in love with it! It was unlike anything that Madonna had done before.I was mesmerized by it.This album features her most impressive vocals,her strongest songwriting,and amazing production by William Orbit.I can certainly see why many fans consider it her greatest work.

Like A Prayer is her best song Ray Of Light her best album, and one of my fave albums of all time

I'm a total sucker for Music's guitar ballads as well ( I deserve it, Gone). Some of the best stuff she ever did to my ears

LightOfArt said:

Like A Prayer is her best song Ray Of Light her best album, and one of my fave albums of all time

I'm a total sucker for Music's guitar ballads as well ( I deserve it, Gone). Some of the best stuff she ever did to my ears

Music is her fourth best album; it's her pure pop/rock album...no filler & awesome production

JoeTyler said:

LightOfArt said:

Like A Prayer is her best song Ray Of Light her best album, and one of my fave albums of all time

I'm a total sucker for Music's guitar ballads as well ( I deserve it, Gone). Some of the best stuff she ever did to my ears

Music is her fourth best album; it's her pure pop/rock album...no filler & awesome production

Might be, but also her worst album artwork

LightOfArt said:

JoeTyler said:

Music is her fourth best album; it's her pure pop/rock album...no filler & awesome production

Might be, but also her worst album artwork

uh? Hard Candy, man

Music is her most random, so-so cover but not the worst, in fact, it matches the sound/feel/production of the album...

JoeTyler said:

LightOfArt said:

I'm a total sucker for Music's guitar ballads as well ( I deserve it, Gone). Some of the best stuff she ever did to my ears

Music is her fourth best album; it's her pure pop/rock album...no filler & awesome production

'Music' is nice....a very edgy,experimental album that takes electronica into some exciting directions.It's not her best work by any means but it was cool to see her trying new beats and sounds,instead of repeating herself.

Highlights: title track,Impressive Instant,Gone,Don't Tell Me,What It Feels Like For A Girl,Paradise (Not For Me)

SoulAlive said:

JoeTyler said:

Music is her fourth best album; it's her pure pop/rock album...no filler & awesome production

'Music' is nice....a very edgy,experimental album that takes electronica into some exciting directions.It's not her best work by any means but it was cool to see her trying new beats and sounds,instead of repeating herself.

Highlights: title track,Impressive Instant,Gone,Don't Tell Me,What It Feels Like For A Girl,Paradise (Not For Me)

yep

back in the day, American Life disappointed the hell out of me because she just followed the pattern of the lesser tracks of Music (specially I Deserve It, Nobody's Perfect), but using a cheap electroclash sound, completely erasing the fresh pop/rock/pseudo-country sound of Music. Bad bad sequel, bad singles, bad image, bad lyrics, bad vibe, bad timing

xlr8r said:

The Blonde Ambition tour (LAP) was also no joke. Went from doing stadiums of True Blue tour back to arenas where you could actually SEE her. This was my first live show I caught from her.

That was also my first Madonna concert I saw her on Saturday,May 19,1990 at the Oakland Coliseum,the second of three shows at this arena."Vogue" was the Number One song in America.That was such an exciting time to be a Madonna fan.A few days after this concert,'I'm Breathless' was released.

SoulAlive said:

xlr8r said:

The Blonde Ambition tour (LAP) was also no joke. Went from doing stadiums of True Blue tour back to arenas where you could actually SEE her. This was my first live show I caught from her.

That was also my first Madonna concert I saw her on Saturday,May 19,1990 at the Oakland Coliseum,the second of three shows at this arena."Vogue" was the Number One song in America.That was such an exciting time to be a Madonna fan.A few days after this concert,'I'm Breathless' was released.

Have i told you lately i hate you?

Weren't you at the Confessions tour in San Jose I was at? I thought the second night - May 31, was it? -- was the most insane energy i've ever felt at a madge show, but maybe it was because i was 8th row with the completely psycho fanatics

AlexdeParis said:

badujunkie said:

have you ever actually explained why?

It's her best album because there isn't any filler IMO. The Orbit sounds give it a cohesiveness her other albums don't have and it's the strongest collection of songs she's ever released. Lyrically, this is definitely the best Madonna album. I love that she reached a point she could release a song like "Little Star," which is so unabashedly full of love without being cheesy. "Mer Girl" is so morbid and vivid -- what a way to close it out. It definitely leaves a mark. I find "Nothing Really Matters" to be hypnotic; it certainly isn't filler to me. "The Power of Good-Bye" is my favorite Madonna song ever. "Drowned World/Substitute for Love," "Ray of Light," "Frozen," "Swim," "Skin," "To Have and Not to Hold"... those are some of the best individual songs she's done, but as a group they make an artistic statement unlike any other she's attempted. In short, the individual parts are awesome, but the whole package is even better.

Compare that to LAP, where there are some great singles and strong album tracks, but nothing really rises to the level of "Oh Father." No contest IMO.

you have inspired me to revisit rol on the way to work this a.m., thanks

badujunkie said:

SoulAlive said:

That was also my first Madonna concert I saw her on Saturday,May 19,1990 at the Oakland Coliseum,the second of three shows at this arena."Vogue" was the Number One song in America.That was such an exciting time to be a Madonna fan.A few days after this concert,'I'm Breathless' was released.

Have i told you lately i hate you?

Weren't you at the Confessions tour in San Jose I was at? I thought the second night - May 31, was it? -- was the most insane energy i've ever felt at a madge show, but maybe it was because i was 8th row with the completely psycho fanatics

Yep,I was at that show too Confessions is my favorite Madonna tour...or at least my favorite of the four tours she has done in the past ten years.

SoulAlive said:

JoeTyler said:

Music is her fourth best album; it's her pure pop/rock album...no filler & awesome production

'Music' is nice....a very edgy,experimental album that takes electronica into some exciting directions.It's not her best work by any means but it was cool to see her trying new beats and sounds,instead of repeating herself.

Highlights: title track,Impressive Instant,Gone,Don't Tell Me,What It Feels Like For A Girl,Paradise (Not For Me)

My favorite from music is definitely "Nobody's Perfect." One of my favorites by her overall...

badujunkie said:

AlexdeParis said:

It's her best album because there isn't any filler IMO. The Orbit sounds give it a cohesiveness her other albums don't have and it's the strongest collection of songs she's ever released. Lyrically, this is definitely the best Madonna album. I love that she reached a point she could release a song like "Little Star," which is so unabashedly full of love without being cheesy. "Mer Girl" is so morbid and vivid -- what a way to close it out. It definitely leaves a mark. I find "Nothing Really Matters" to be hypnotic; it certainly isn't filler to me. "The Power of Good-Bye" is my favorite Madonna song ever. "Drowned World/Substitute for Love," "Ray of Light," "Frozen," "Swim," "Skin," "To Have and Not to Hold"... those are some of the best individual songs she's done, but as a group they make an artistic statement unlike any other she's attempted. In short, the individual parts are awesome, but the whole package is even better.

Compare that to LAP, where there are some great singles and strong album tracks, but nothing really rises to the level of "Oh Father." No contest IMO.

you have inspired me to revisit rol on the way to work this a.m., thanks

Let me know how it goes. I'm actually going to revisit LAP thanks to this thread. Haven't really heard it in its entirety in a while now.

AlexdeParis said:

badujunkie said:

you have inspired me to revisit rol on the way to work this a.m., thanks

Let me know how it goes. I'm actually going to revisit LAP thanks to this thread. Haven't really heard it in its entirety in a while now.

Ok.

You're starting to wear me down. "To Have and Not To Hold," "Skin," "CPG," "Swim," this listen of "NRM" - starting to get where you're coming from.

I still hate "Little Star!"

SoulAlive said:

badujunkie said:

Have i told you lately i hate you?

Weren't you at the Confessions tour in San Jose I was at? I thought the second night - May 31, was it? -- was the most insane energy i've ever felt at a madge show, but maybe it was because i was 8th row with the completely psycho fanatics

Yep,I was at that show too Confessions is my favorite Madonna tour...or at least my favorite of the four tours she has done in the past ten years.

It can't beat BA live!!! wait - tell me - you didn't go to the GS, did you?

AlexdeParis said:

SoulAlive said:

'Music' is nice....a very edgy,experimental album that takes electronica into some exciting directions.It's not her best work by any means but it was cool to see her trying new beats and sounds,instead of repeating herself.

Highlights: title track,Impressive Instant,Gone,Don't Tell Me,What It Feels Like For A Girl,Paradise (Not For Me)

My favorite from music is definitely "Nobody's Perfect." One of my favorites by her overall...

So you just are an electronica head, or that is your favorite Maddy style?

Gaga doing "Born This Way" acapella during the filming of her HBO special

badujunkie said:

SoulAlive said:

Yep,I was at that show too Confessions is my favorite Madonna tour...or at least my favorite of the four tours she has done in the past ten years.

It can't beat BA live!!! wait - tell me - you didn't go to the GS, did you?

No,I didn't go to The Girlie Show She never brought that tour to my area.

JoeTyler said:

LightOfArt said:

Like A Prayer is her best song Ray Of Light her best album, and one of my fave albums of all time

I'm a total sucker for Music's guitar ballads as well ( I deserve it, Gone). Some of the best stuff she ever did to my ears

Music is her fourth best album; it's her pure pop/rock album...no filler & awesome production

I think Music is one of her worst albums. Half of it sounds like Ray of Light retreads, and I really don't think there are any exceptional songs on it. The only albums of hers I like less than it are I'm Breathless, Evita and Hard Candy.

Does anyone besides me love I'm Breathless?

badujunkie said:

Does anyone besides me love I'm Breathless?