gamera said:

Funkier than Prince?!?!

That is some high-grade crack you're smoking.

Is the song funky? Sure. It's got a little stank to it. But to be funkier than Prince, you gotta be dropping sweaty funk-bombs and moving funk-drenched dancefloors with tens of thousands of people, night after night after night after night for about 32 years.

Funkier than Prince... sheeeeesh.

My feet get funkier walking to the 7-11 with a Prince song in my headphones.

Now that's deep

vainandy said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Maroon 5 is making good pop funk. At this point, what they are doing has much more of a groove to it than Prince's newer material.

Oh, I don't know. It can't fuck with "Lavaux". I just wonder if they have any sellout shit on their album because Prince definately does....that damn disgrace of a hidden track. He loses major points for that one. It's a shitty shit hop mess!

I need somebody that ain't gonna kiss no damn ass and sell out.

I know you hate rap , but lay it down is funky under todays hiphop standards.

Take it how you will!

Lavaux,stickylikeglue,actofgod> this garbage any day,

This track reminds me of a chromeo song without the synths/drummachines.

Edit: Sorry, I meant "Laydown".

[Edited 12/26/10 0:08am]

gamera said:

Funkier than Prince?!?!

That is some high-grade crack you're smoking.

Is the song funky? Sure. It's got a little stank to it. But to be funkier than Prince, you gotta be dropping sweaty funk-bombs and moving funk-drenched dancefloors with tens of thousands of people, night after night after night after night for about 32 years.

Funkier than Prince... sheeeeesh.

My feet get funkier walking to the 7-11 with a Prince song in my headphones.

Maybe it's me, maybe I've forgotten how to funk. I'm completely open to that.

But I'm not gonna call Prince "funky" by default. His funk got swallowed up by something much bigger many years ago. Too much production, not being poor anymore. Things like that are funk killers.

abigail05 said:

think it ain't?

So why can't you just enjoy a song without trying to compare it and dog someone else out?

I don't think they'll EVER be funkier than Prince, no way, no how.

Serena said:

abigail05 said:

think it ain't?

So why can't you just enjoy a song without trying to compare it and dog someone else out?

I don't think they'll EVER be funkier than Prince, no way, no how.

Oh, come on. This is Prince.org. The best thing we do is dog Prince!

abigail05 said:

Serena said:

So why can't you just enjoy a song without trying to compare it and dog someone else out?

I don't think they'll EVER be funkier than Prince, no way, no how.

Oh, come on. This is Prince.org. The best thing we do is dog Prince!

No, 'we' don't.

Prince ain't been funky since...you know, I can't remember far back enough. I hestitate to see the setlist for the Welcome 2 America gigs. Oh you know, the same old same old. Too much time is being spent resting on his laurels.

minneapolisFunq said:

vainandy said:

Oh, I don't know. It can't fuck with "Lavaux". I just wonder if they have any sellout shit on their album because Prince definately does....that damn disgrace of a hidden track. He loses major points for that one. It's a shitty shit hop mess!

I need somebody that ain't gonna kiss no damn ass and sell out.

I know you hate rap , but lay it down is funky under todays hiphop standards.

Take it how you will!

Lavaux,stickylikeglue,actofgod> this garbage any day,

This track reminds me of a chromeo song without the synths/drummachines.

Edit: Sorry, I meant "Laydown".

[Edited 12/26/10 0:08am]

Act of God sounds like a revamp of Cream with a bridge from 1982. Its very predictable. Its certainly not a work of brilliance. Its paint by numbers Prince at best.

Sticky Like Glue reminds me of a much, much watered down version of "Pop What You Got" by One Way with a leftover change from something he wrote on Emancipation. Its nothing new for Prince. Its nothing new-sounding; nothing innovative. It sounds dated as hell.

This song by Maroon 5 is not their "funkiest" nor is it their best but its a pop-funk song people can dance to for four minutes or so and has more groove to it than most of Prince's latest output. At least they don't drop the beat 6-8 times in the song to make you stop dancing. Prince has made some great songs in the past and occasionally, he still hits upon something good but most of his output teeters between sounding like it should have come out in 1980-something and sounding overdone and contrived.

Maroon 5 may eventually fall into that category as well but for now, they are making good pop-funk records.

BlaqueKnight said:

Act of God sounds like a revamp of Cream with a bridge from 1982. Its very predictable. Its certainly not a work of brilliance. Its paint by numbers Prince at best.

Sticky Like Glue reminds me of a much, much watered down version of "Pop What You Got" by One Way with a leftover change from something he wrote on Emancipation. Its nothing new for Prince. Its nothing new-sounding; nothing innovative. It sounds dated as hell.

This song by Maroon 5 is not their "funkiest" nor is it their best but its a pop-funk song people can dance to for four minutes or so and has more groove to it than most of Prince's latest output. At least they don't drop the beat 6-8 times in the song to make you stop dancing. Prince has made some great songs in the past and occasionally, he still hits upon something good but most of his output teeters between sounding like it should have come out in 1980-something and sounding overdone and contrived.

Maroon 5 may eventually fall into that category as well but for now, they are making good pop-funk records.

I think this beat dropping thing is one of the worst things going on in music today. It adds nothing and it kills the groove.

BlaqueKnight said:

minneapolisFunq said:

I know you hate rap , but lay it down is funky under todays hiphop standards.

Take it how you will!

Lavaux,stickylikeglue,actofgod> this garbage any day,

This track reminds me of a chromeo song without the synths/drummachines.

Edit: Sorry, I meant "Laydown".

[Edited 12/26/10 0:08am]

Act of God sounds like a revamp of Cream with a bridge from 1982. Its very predictable. Its certainly not a work of brilliance. Its paint by numbers Prince at best.

Sticky Like Glue reminds me of a much, much watered down version of "Pop What You Got" by One Way with a leftover change from something he wrote on Emancipation. Its nothing new for Prince. Its nothing new-sounding; nothing innovative. It sounds dated as hell.

This song by Maroon 5 is not their "funkiest" nor is it their best but its a pop-funk song people can dance to for four minutes or so and has more groove to it than most of Prince's latest output. At least they don't drop the beat 6-8 times in the song to make you stop dancing. Prince has made some great songs in the past and occasionally, he still hits upon something good but most of his output teeters between sounding like it should have come out in 1980-something and sounding overdone and contrived.

Maroon 5 may eventually fall into that category as well but for now, they are making good pop-funk records.

I never mentioning anything about innovation, so nevermind the rage induced rants, I am simply stating that I don't think this track stands up to Prince's most recent 'funk' songs.

I wouldn't have started dancing to this weakness in the first place, please drop the beat so I have an excuse to cut the song short!@

U DIG!

minneapolisFunq said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Act of God sounds like a revamp of Cream with a bridge from 1982. Its very predictable. Its certainly not a work of brilliance. Its paint by numbers Prince at best.

Sticky Like Glue reminds me of a much, much watered down version of "Pop What You Got" by One Way with a leftover change from something he wrote on Emancipation. Its nothing new for Prince. Its nothing new-sounding; nothing innovative. It sounds dated as hell.

This song by Maroon 5 is not their "funkiest" nor is it their best but its a pop-funk song people can dance to for four minutes or so and has more groove to it than most of Prince's latest output. At least they don't drop the beat 6-8 times in the song to make you stop dancing. Prince has made some great songs in the past and occasionally, he still hits upon something good but most of his output teeters between sounding like it should have come out in 1980-something and sounding overdone and contrived.

Maroon 5 may eventually fall into that category as well but for now, they are making good pop-funk records.

I never mentioning anything about innovation, so nevermind the rage induced rants, I am simply stating that I don't think this track stands up to Prince's most recent 'funk' songs.

I wouldn't have started dancing to this weakness in the first place, please drop the beat so I have an excuse to cut the song short!@

U DIG!

1. nobody's raging. Stop overreacting.

2. I don't think they write their music for you personally, so I'm sure they won't be offended if you don't dance.

3. Prince's most recent funk songs are rehashes. Even Lavaux, which is good, is a rehash of Automatic by the Pointer Sisters.

BlaqueKnight said:

minneapolisFunq said:

I never mentioning anything about innovation, so nevermind the rage induced rants, I am simply stating that I don't think this track stands up to Prince's most recent 'funk' songs.

I wouldn't have started dancing to this weakness in the first place, please drop the beat so I have an excuse to cut the song short!@

U DIG!

1. nobody's raging. Stop overreacting.

2. I don't think they write their music for you personally, so I'm sure they won't be offended if you don't dance.

3. Prince's most recent funk songs are rehashes. Even Lavaux, which is good, is a rehash of Automatic by the Pointer Sisters.

I suggest you take your own advice!

You clearly have some type of agenda, and thats fine with me, I wont be affected by it.

Again, what does Prince rehashing old sounds have to do with Maroon5 being funkier than him?

You have already stated that this was "pop-funk" and as I recall, that isn't "real" funk to you.

Owned with your own logic/statements? Hmm.

minneapolisFunq said:

BlaqueKnight said:

1. nobody's raging. Stop overreacting.

2. I don't think they write their music for you personally, so I'm sure they won't be offended if you don't dance.

3. Prince's most recent funk songs are rehashes. Even Lavaux, which is good, is a rehash of Automatic by the Pointer Sisters.

I suggest you take your own advice!

You clearly have some type of agenda, and thats fine with me, I wont be affected by it.

Again, what does Prince rehashing old sounds have to do with Maroon5 being funkier than him?

You have already stated that this was "pop-funk" and as I recall, that isn't "real" funk to you.

Owned with your own logic/statements? Hmm.

Agenda? WTF?

Children.

BlaqueKnight said:

minneapolisFunq said:

I suggest you take your own advice!

You clearly have some type of agenda, and thats fine with me, I wont be affected by it.

Again, what does Prince rehashing old sounds have to do with Maroon5 being funkier than him?

You have already stated that this was "pop-funk" and as I recall, that isn't "real" funk to you.

Owned with your own logic/statements? Hmm.

Agenda? WTF?

Children.

Thats what I thought!

This is a cool song. I actually like several M5 songs. However, the Prince comparison is ridiculous. Musically it's not on Prince's level. This has a nice groove, but I would not call it funky. Prince's guitar comps are much funkier.

This thread is interesting though, and has made me curious about a couple of things:

1. Why does Prince get bashed for not creating anything "new"? Why can't he just write songs and play them? He's been in this business for 32 years and writing/playing longer than that. He's created a unique sound and influenced his peers as well as a new generation with that sound. Why does he have to keep reinventing the wheel?

2. Why do you consider Prince's last albums to be so poor? What expectations did you have that were not met?

Not debating, just curious.

shaking my head

xlr8r said:

shaking my head

Do you expect prince to create something "new" forever? Since when has maroon 5 ever been as creative as prince was? Sticky like glue is better then this so called "funky" song.

laurarichardson said:

phunkdaddy said:

Please. I like Prince too but their was nothing funky about Planet Earth.

I'll give you 3121 and Dance 4 Me from Lotus Flower. 2010 was a waste.

Planet Earth was the weakest out of this past decade but if only think two cuts are funky out of the whole lot you got a hearing problem.

Let's all be honest no one in commercial radio is going to play any serious gut bucket funk. I seriously doubt if a large audience exist for that type of music. I know it does not exsist on the org.

What makes P really good at what he does his the diversity you find in his music. The last group of cds have included everything from funk, pop, rnb and rock. You are not finding anybody streching out with that many styles of music on one cd these days and with the state of music industry as it is. It is unlikely that we will ever see diversity again in popular music.

Therefore funk or no funk P beats a band like Maroon 5 hands down. I also have never heard so many people be hostile toward about a singers voice like so many people are with Maroon 5.

At least P does not have the problem.

Just to clarify. I thought the whole 3121 project was good with a few funky tracks. I thought

it was his best cd of the decade. Planet Earth wasn't that good imo which seemed to be

the concensus on the org excluding the die hard Prince fans. Lotus Flower while not a bad album

only contained one real funky cut Dance 4 Me. 2010 to me was just a bunch of mash ups put

together on an album. I'm glad he released that abroad. I don't mind the diversity as i dig

rock and pop too but P started off R&B and should never abandon that base. In other words, don't

get the Lionel Richie syndrome.

abigail05 said:

think it ain't?

That's not as sharply funky as "Sticky Like Glue". It's more like standard kinda easy funk. But I do like Maroon 5.

People are still in here hating on Maroon 5? They have some good grooves. The music speaks for itself.

ufoclub said:

That's not as sharply funky as "Sticky Like Glue". It's more like standard kinda easy funk. But I do like Maroon 5.

Sticky Like Glue ain't that funky.

BlaqueKnight said:

ufoclub said:

That's not as sharply funky as "Sticky Like Glue". It's more like standard kinda easy funk. But I do like Maroon 5.

Sticky Like Glue ain't that funky.

I think it is kinda funky, but not dancing funky.

I'd call it a major return to form though. I LOVE the sound of 20Ten.

BlaqueKnight said:

ufoclub said:

That's not as sharply funky as "Sticky Like Glue". It's more like standard kinda easy funk. But I do like Maroon 5.

Sticky Like Glue ain't that funky.

Sticky's like the motion of a slow core workout compared to the cheating fast calf raises of the Maroon 5 song... and I don't mean dancing. To me, funk has always been more of a motion or a swagger that messes with your walk.

Actually when you lighten funk with speedy repitition and make it sweet you get good disco, and I think the Maroon 5 single is like good disco.

I guess I think of hard funk as making you alone move quite strangely, but maybe not keep a floor dancing.

I would've enjoyed the song more if it was sung by somebody else. I like the groove but I can't take his whiny voice, I never did, really.

ufoclub said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Sticky Like Glue ain't that funky.

Sticky's like the motion of a slow core workout compared to the cheating fast calf raises of the Maroon 5 song... and I don't mean dancing. To me, funk has always been more of a motion or a swagger that messes with your walk.

Actually when you lighten funk with speedy repitition and make it sweet you get good disco, and I think the Maroon 5 single is like good disco.

I guess I think of hard funk as making you alone move quite strangely, but maybe not keep a floor dancing.

Sticky Like Glue tries to capture the vibe of what songs like Mechanical Emotion do so well, but fails IMO. Sorry, but like I said - Sticky Like Glue ain't that funky. If we were talking Lavaux, you'd have no arguments from me.

Give A Little More has a very strong groove and its constant and doesn't take you out of the moment. That's part of Prince's major flaws in his songs these days - he throws in changes that take you too far out of the moment in the song. He's done it for years now but at this point its become a formula for him which makes his songs very predictable. Also, the fact that a lot of 20Ten sounds like it was made in 1986 doesn't help. You don't have to make songs sound dated to recapture the vibes of the past. Maroon 5's last CD showed that.

BlaqueKnight said:

ufoclub said:

Sticky's like the motion of a slow core workout compared to the cheating fast calf raises of the Maroon 5 song... and I don't mean dancing. To me, funk has always been more of a motion or a swagger that messes with your walk.

Actually when you lighten funk with speedy repitition and make it sweet you get good disco, and I think the Maroon 5 single is like good disco.

I guess I think of hard funk as making you alone move quite strangely, but maybe not keep a floor dancing.

Sticky Like Glue tries to capture the vibe of what songs like Mechanical Emotion do so well, but fails IMO. Sorry, but like I said - Sticky Like Glue ain't that funky. If we were talking Lavaux, you'd have no arguments from me.

Give A Little More has a very strong groove and its constant and doesn't take you out of the moment. That's part of Prince's major flaws in his songs these days - he throws in changes that take you too far out of the moment in the song. He's done it for years now but at this point its become a formula for him which makes his songs very predictable. Also, the fact that a lot of 20Ten sounds like it was made in 1986 doesn't help. You don't have to make songs sound dated to recapture the vibes of the past. Maroon 5's last CD showed that.

Lavaux? (the synth sound like part of "Keep Feeling Fascination" or "Let's Here it for the Boy") That's kind of stop start pop march sound to me even though theoretically it's using the same structural formula as "Sticky Like Glue", but Sticky Like Glue has the spacing that makes it funky to my ears. Lavauz ends up sound like some kind of march with attitude. To my ears.

I think "Sticky Like Glue" is taking a super friendly tone (very commercial mood like Earth Wind and Fire) and minimalizing it down and letting quiet space hit like a little reflex mallet. So I'd some of 20ten is a throwback to the tones of 70's but done in the minimal Prince style.

Do you think this is funky?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/98025/06%20Copymachine1.mp3.zip

abigail05 said:

think it ain't?

Cool.

what a joke

that guy's whiny , nasal voice is annoying as hell

[Edited 1/5/11 18:02pm]

it's ok. nothing I feel compelled to go and buy right away, but it's been a while since I even bought a Prince album.

[Edited 1/5/11 15:56pm]