bboy87 said:

Militant said:

Anyone else find it weird that the new single is premiering on Monday - same day as the kids being on Oprah. Makes me want to believe that MJ is pulling all the strings behind the scenes somewhere. LOL. I miss him.

All I know is that it's one hell of a birthday gift for me

i knew i liked u 4 a reason scorpios rock!! my bday is 2day so happy early bday 2 u bboy

L4OATheOriginal said:

bboy87 said:

All I know is that it's one hell of a birthday gift for me

i knew i liked u 4 a reason scorpios rock!! my bday is 2day so happy early bday 2 u bboy

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:highfive

Happy Birthday!

bboy87 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

i knew i liked u 4 a reason scorpios rock!! my bday is 2day so happy early bday 2 u bboy

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:highfive

Happy Birthday!

thank u bro!! and ..go see for colored girls only ..AWESOME!!

kibbles said:

mookie said:

This is from the MJ boards:

According to Gayle King (on her satellite radio show) Oprah did NOT "court" or seek out the Jackson's in any way, it was Marc Schaffel (porn producer/KJ biz partner) who CONTACTED the Oprah team.

Oprah & her team were planning an episode on "Teen Heartthrobs" (which coincidentally aired today) and when Oprah was a kid her "crush" was Jackie Jackson. The ONLY call Oprah's team made was to Jackie to see if he would participate.

Days later the Oprah producer assigned to the Jackie Jackson segment received a phone call and faxed letter from Marc Schaffel on behalf of Joe & Katherine Jackson pitching an interview for KJ's book about MJ. THE OPRAH TEAM REJECTED THE PITCH FROM MARC SHAFFEL, JOE, & KJ saying thanks but no thanks.

A few days after Oprah's team turned them down Marc Schaffel contacted them again to say that "Mr. & Mrs. Jackson would 'sweeten' the deal and allow Oprah an 'exclusive' interview w/ the children of MJ if she would agree to feature KJ on her show." According to Gayle, there was MUCH debate between the producers whether or not to do the show. Gayle said the Oprah team is taking great care in the way they are featuring the kids. She said Schaffel made it clear to producers that the Jackson's were willing to leverage the children to promote their biz ventures to other outlets.

ASSUMING THIS IS TRUE (gotta put that caveat out there)

i don't know why gayle thinks this makes oprah look good or better. one, even if she was doing a 'teen heartthrob' show, and wanted to meet jackie, you cannot make me believe that she didn't also see this as an opportunity to get on the inside of the jackson circle and to eventually wind up with an even bigger scoop. she's a businesswoman who is fooling no one.

secondly, even if she did reject joe and katherine at first, she was certainly willing to interview them when these kids were offered up as bait - to the shock of absolutely no one with a brain. that makes her just as complicit in their exploitation no matter how gayle wants to spin it. 'taking great care in the way they are featuring the kids'? how about not featuring them at all? what a slimy pig.

as to taj's claims that his dear grandma wanted to set the record straight about his uncle and his legacy, has he seen the latest clips of the show making the rounds? yeah, ma jackson who told dateline that she never saw her son on drugs, apparently has changed her tune. i would laugh at him for being so stupid, gullible and blind, but that would be mean. . .

If Katherine only talked about drugs with MJ once isn't it because she had no reason to talk about it more times? She had contact with him and yet didn't suspect a drug related problem so why is she talking about her son as if he was a druggie? What makes her think Michael was a drug addict, in he first place? Katherine had contact with him, she knew everything about him and never suspected anything (by her own admission)...so why call him a druggie now? What evidence does she have?

Besides, her "once" doesn't coincide with Janet's "several interventions". Someone is lying (as if we didn't know it since day one...). Besides, once again, the family members fail at presenting timeframes. That "once" was when, exactly?

Perhaps Oprah could ask her what evidence does the family have of him being a druggie. It's clear they think Michael was one because he wanted nothing to do with them so they started thinking he was "hiding something". However, when it comes to EVIDENCE they have ZERO.

Is it that hard to read the damn autopsy? Is it that hard to realize that there is no evidence of him being a drug addict? Is it that hard to realize the real reason as to why Michael kept his family far, far away?

Tha family is destroying MJ's legacy. Diane Dimond and Tom Sneddon send congratulations. Freaks.

Expect Katherine to imply that Michael lied about Joe, was a raging junkie (why? not even she knows...hell, none of them knows but they say it anyway because he died and they, clueless as always, heard the word "drug" and assumed- and it was convenient- it was due to drug addiction) and describe him as a tyrant who wanted nothing to do with his savior like family. Katherine is, when one goes to the bottom of it, a freak just like her husband and her worthless kids.

One more thing:

These aren't Oprah's grandchildren. She really doesn't have to care. The caring, doubts, and guilt should be on the family's side. If the negotiations went down that way, it is worrisome. They were turned down and then offered the children to get their way? Ouch. So, let's stop blaming Oprah, Kibbles. Don't turn a blind eye to the REAL guilty ones, here.

Marlon & Carol Jackson co-wrote this with Barry White.

bboy87 said:

Woah! Did anyone else see that big blob of white on Michael's forehead.

MOL said:

kibbles said:

ASSUMING THIS IS TRUE (gotta put that caveat out there)

i don't know why gayle thinks this makes oprah look good or better. one, even if she was doing a 'teen heartthrob' show, and wanted to meet jackie, you cannot make me believe that she didn't also see this as an opportunity to get on the inside of the jackson circle and to eventually wind up with an even bigger scoop. she's a businesswoman who is fooling no one.

secondly, even if she did reject joe and katherine at first, she was certainly willing to interview them when these kids were offered up as bait - to the shock of absolutely no one with a brain. that makes her just as complicit in their exploitation no matter how gayle wants to spin it. 'taking great care in the way they are featuring the kids'? how about not featuring them at all? what a slimy pig.

as to taj's claims that his dear grandma wanted to set the record straight about his uncle and his legacy, has he seen the latest clips of the show making the rounds? yeah, ma jackson who told dateline that she never saw her son on drugs, apparently has changed her tune. i would laugh at him for being so stupid, gullible and blind, but that would be mean. . .

If Katherine only talked about drugs with MJ once isn't it because she had no reason to talk about it more times? She had contact with him and yet didn't suspect a drug related problem so why is she talking about her son as if he was a druggie? What makes her think Michael was a drug addict, in he first place? Katherine had contact with him, she knew everything about him and never suspected anything (by her own admission)...so why call him a druggie now? What evidence does she have?

Besides, her "once" doesn't coincide with Janet's "several interventions". Someone is lying (as if we didn't know it since day one...). Besides, once again, the family members fail at presenting timeframes. That "once" was when, exactly?

Perhaps Oprah could ask her what evidence does the family have of him being a druggie. It's clear they think Michael was one because he wanted nothing to do with them so they started thinking he was "hiding something". However, when it comes to EVIDENCE they have ZERO.

Is it that hard to read the damn autopsy? Is it that hard to realize that there is no evidence of him being a drug addict? Is it that hard to realize the real reason as to why Michael kept his family far, far away?

Tha family is destroying MJ's legacy. Diane Dimond and Tom Sneddon send congratulations. Freaks.

Expect Katherine to imply that Michael lied about Joe, was a raging junkie (why? not even she knows...hell, none of them knows but they say it anyway because he died and they, clueless as always, heard the word "drug" and assumed- and it was convenient- it was due to drug addiction) and describe him as a tyrant who wanted nothing to do with his savior like family. Katherine is, when one goes to the bottom of it, a freak just like her husband and her worthless kids.

One more thing:

These aren't Oprah's grandchildren. She really doesn't have to care. The caring, doubts, and guilt should be on the family's side. If the negotiations went down that way, it is worrisome. They were turned down and then offered the children to get their way? Ouch. So, let's stop blaming Oprah, Kibbles. Don't turn a blind eye to the REAL guilty ones, here.

you're right, mol. oprah shouldn't have been there, i'm sure you'd agree, and if she was any type of decent person she would have turned down the offer. BUT, they opened up the door to her. they were the ones who offered up mj's kids on a platter. *sigh*

and on the drug tip, i agreed with every question you've posed. it'll be interesting when she and others are grilled by aeg attys, the prosecutors and murray's defense about the when and how of mj's alleged drug use. coming soon to a courtroom near you.

MOL said:

kibbles said:

ASSUMING THIS IS TRUE (gotta put that caveat out there)

i don't know why gayle thinks this makes oprah look good or better. one, even if she was doing a 'teen heartthrob' show, and wanted to meet jackie, you cannot make me believe that she didn't also see this as an opportunity to get on the inside of the jackson circle and to eventually wind up with an even bigger scoop. she's a businesswoman who is fooling no one.

secondly, even if she did reject joe and katherine at first, she was certainly willing to interview them when these kids were offered up as bait - to the shock of absolutely no one with a brain. that makes her just as complicit in their exploitation no matter how gayle wants to spin it. 'taking great care in the way they are featuring the kids'? how about not featuring them at all? what a slimy pig.

as to taj's claims that his dear grandma wanted to set the record straight about his uncle and his legacy, has he seen the latest clips of the show making the rounds? yeah, ma jackson who told dateline that she never saw her son on drugs, apparently has changed her tune. i would laugh at him for being so stupid, gullible and blind, but that would be mean. . .

If Katherine only talked about drugs with MJ once isn't it because she had no reason to talk about it more times? She had contact with him and yet didn't suspect a drug related problem so why is she talking about her son as if he was a druggie? What makes her think Michael was a drug addict, in he first place? Katherine had contact with him, she knew everything about him and never suspected anything (by her own admission)...so why call him a druggie now? What evidence does she have?

Besides, her "once" doesn't coincide with Janet's "several interventions". Someone is lying (as if we didn't know it since day one...). Besides, once again, the family members fail at presenting timeframes. That "once" was when, exactly?

Perhaps Oprah could ask her what evidence does the family have of him being a druggie. It's clear they think Michael was one because he wanted nothing to do with them so they started thinking he was "hiding something". However, when it comes to EVIDENCE they have ZERO.

Is it that hard to read the damn autopsy? Is it that hard to realize that there is no evidence of him being a drug addict? Is it that hard to realize the real reason as to why Michael kept his family far, far away?

Tha family is destroying MJ's legacy. Diane Dimond and Tom Sneddon send congratulations. Freaks.

Expect Katherine to imply that Michael lied about Joe, was a raging junkie (why? not even she knows...hell, none of them knows but they say it anyway because he died and they, clueless as always, heard the word "drug" and assumed- and it was convenient- it was due to drug addiction) and describe him as a tyrant who wanted nothing to do with his savior like family. Katherine is, when one goes to the bottom of it, a freak just like her husband and her worthless kids.

One more thing:

These aren't Oprah's grandchildren. She really doesn't have to care. The caring, doubts, and guilt should be on the family's side. If the negotiations went down that way, it is worrisome. They were turned down and then offered the children to get their way? Ouch. So, let's stop blaming Oprah, Kibbles. Don't turn a blind eye to the REAL guilty ones, here.

I've said it before on these boards: somebody is lying.

kibbles said:

MOL said:

If Katherine only talked about drugs with MJ once isn't it because she had no reason to talk about it more times? She had contact with him and yet didn't suspect a drug related problem so why is she talking about her son as if he was a druggie? What makes her think Michael was a drug addict, in he first place? Katherine had contact with him, she knew everything about him and never suspected anything (by her own admission)...so why call him a druggie now? What evidence does she have?

Besides, her "once" doesn't coincide with Janet's "several interventions". Someone is lying (as if we didn't know it since day one...). Besides, once again, the family members fail at presenting timeframes. That "once" was when, exactly?

Perhaps Oprah could ask her what evidence does the family have of him being a druggie. It's clear they think Michael was one because he wanted nothing to do with them so they started thinking he was "hiding something". However, when it comes to EVIDENCE they have ZERO.

Is it that hard to read the damn autopsy? Is it that hard to realize that there is no evidence of him being a drug addict? Is it that hard to realize the real reason as to why Michael kept his family far, far away?

Tha family is destroying MJ's legacy. Diane Dimond and Tom Sneddon send congratulations. Freaks.

Expect Katherine to imply that Michael lied about Joe, was a raging junkie (why? not even she knows...hell, none of them knows but they say it anyway because he died and they, clueless as always, heard the word "drug" and assumed- and it was convenient- it was due to drug addiction) and describe him as a tyrant who wanted nothing to do with his savior like family. Katherine is, when one goes to the bottom of it, a freak just like her husband and her worthless kids.

One more thing:

These aren't Oprah's grandchildren. She really doesn't have to care. The caring, doubts, and guilt should be on the family's side. If the negotiations went down that way, it is worrisome. They were turned down and then offered the children to get their way? Ouch. So, let's stop blaming Oprah, Kibbles. Don't turn a blind eye to the REAL guilty ones, here.

you're right, mol. oprah shouldn't have been there, i'm sure you'd agree, and if she was any type of decent person she would have turned down the offer. BUT, they opened up the door to her. they were the ones who offered up mj's kids on a platter. *sigh*

and on the drug tip, i agreed with every question you've posed. it'll be interesting when she and others are grilled by aeg attys, the prosecutors and murray's defense about the when and how of mj's alleged drug use. coming soon to a courtroom near you.

AEG is going to put the family in its place. They are going to GRILL them. It's not that difficult to do anyway. If anyone with two brain cells can do it, if fans like you and me can grill them in two seconds, then wait until you hear those powerful AEG attorneys: they're going to roast each and every family member. I doubt, however, they will be testifying. Remember that Joe, when called to testify under oath, during the monthly allowance and wrongful death lawsuit hearings, put his tail between his legs and didn't even show up in court. Well: he's so brave and courageous when it comes to talking to the media but he backs down when it comes to testifying under oath?! He was everywhere, in the media, talking about Murray and AEG. He was everywhere trying to get his way with the allowance...but when it came to testifying under oath he didn't even put his feet in the courtroom. Oxman is going to get GRILLED and L. Rowe, Joe's buddy, is going to, as well. They're either retarded or demented. Or both.

And Katherine just gets on my nerves. What does Joe need to do for her to say "enough"? She's a puppet and, certainly, NO victim. The only victim here is the one being portrayed as a mean, raging, tyrant junkie.

Breaking News

Well there it was. And Wow.

And what genius from the marketing team over at Sony to cut it just as we hear a hint of Michael with that Aaaow! Of course deliberate to drive desire for the song and to fuel the fire of "is it really him singing".

As for the title - Michael was always breaking news even before his death in the example Militant gave. Feels like a funky track and can only wait to hear more.

The only thing I don't like about the teaser is in the news stories you can clearly hear the word "new allegations" in the mix of news reports. For people wanting to preserve his positive legacy you would have thought someone would have edited that out.

Still nice to feel that ever so familiar excitement on waiting for a new MJ song and album.

Prince and MJ baby

now dont get mad or abusive towards me for this!! i just did it to see!!! im not trying to make fun of no one!! but if Mj and Prince looks were combined to make a baby.. i did it on morphthing.com and i think it came out beautiful what do u all think?

http://www.morphthing.com...63babda06e

WetDream said:

I know it's only a snippet, but a huge NO on it so far. Dated same old, same old. I can't see my opinion changing much as the beat foundation is there and it's too similar and over done. Bad drum machine and violin synth. Hoping for good vocals....

I hear you on the drum machines and synth strings but I guess that's the trade off. In order to stay true to the recordings you keep it how Michael recorded it in 2007 and to be honest at that time he wouldn't have been pulling in session musos or orchestras.

I always wanted Michael to return to real drums and instruments, but I guess it is always easer to lay down a beat on a drum machine that tee up someone to actually play on the track.

Anyone else buy Cirque tickets??? I've got mine.

i dont think i can post this but i will tell u about it.. what i didnt know is that prince actually performed a little tribute to Michael jackson at one of his concerts in france.. the video isnt a video of him.. its just audio from the performance..[Snip - luv4u]

MichaelJ2345 said:

Prince and MJ baby

now dont get mad or abusive towards me for this!! i just did it to see!!! im not trying to make fun of no one!! but if Mj and Prince looks were combined to make a baby.. i did it on morphthing.com and i think it came out beautiful what do u all think?

http://www.morphthing.com...63babda06e

LOL based on that everyone would say Prince is not the father, nor MJ the father - as how can two black men create a light skinned baby, lol.

Funny.

Listening to the small snippet, I wonder what they did. it's one of the songs he did with the Cascios in 2007 but it sounds like maybe Rodney Jerkins had a hand in it also. Maybe this was one of his contributions to the album

It feels like it could be Tabloid Junkie Part 2

[Edited 11/5/10 16:29pm]

sorry guys just one more thing i found out!!

He (Prince) actually did say something in an October 2009 interview. When asked about his feelings on Michael's death, I believe the quote was, "It is always sad to lose someone you loved."

From MTV - DECODING JACKSON ARTWORK

When Michael hits shelves next month, the world will get the first of a promised flurry of posthumous releases from late pop superstar Michael Jackson. While we don't know yet what songs will appear on the album, Jackson's label, Sony Music, did release the cover art, a Kadir Nelson painting that takes fans on a fantasy ride through the greatest moments of the King of Pop's solo career.

The painting by Kadir Nelson features a montage of classic MJ images, from hisOff the Wall-era tux to looks from the "Thriller" video. At the center is a a somber, Renaissance-like of Jackson in royal gold and burgundy vestments, a golden crown hovering over his head.

Let's break down the references:

Almost as iconic as the cover photo on Thriller is the pensive image of Jackson from the front of another one of his smashes, 1987's Bad, which sold more than 30 million copies.

Jackson's video for "Beat It" is one of the most beloved of all time. His signature red leather jacket with the acres of unnecessary zippers, the bright blue t-shirt and the legion of pirouetting bad boys are all present in the painting's representation of that clip.

One of the other Thriller-era looks that's cemented in the minds of fans during is the custom-made tuxedo jacket, pink shirt and red bowtie that Jackson wore in the "Billie Jean" video.

The cover of 1991's Dangerous portrayed Jackson as a mystery man hiding among a circus of bizarre, sideshow attractions. Here, Nelson has isolated a part of the cover that pays homage to the rollercoaster scene from the 1989 video for "Leave Me Alone."

Jackson appears, under a cluster of cameras, in the silver spacesuit he wore in his 1986 3-D space flick "Captain EO." The 17-minute film, directed by Francis Ford Coppola, debuted at the Disneyland EPCOT amusement park and went offline in 1998; it began screening again in 2010 following Jackson's death.

The spaceship from one of Jackson's favorite fantasy movies, Steven Spielberg's 1982 film "E.T.," floats in the painting's sky. Jackson contributed the song "Someone in the Dark" to the movie's Grammy-winning storybook, which he also narrated.

Another scene from the "Leave Me Alone" video isolating the rocketshipthe singer flies around in during the clip.

This detail from the "Leave Me Alone" video depicts a goldfish swimming in a bowl, another likely reference to Jackson's feeling of being constantly scrutinized. An interesting detail is the addition of a crown to the fish's head, which is likely another reference to Jackson's status as pop royalty.

One of the key scenes from the 1987 video for "The W...e Me Feel" — in which Jackson prepares to unleash some of his classic dance moves in silhouette — is also depicted.

MTV's Moonman makes an appearance, a reference to the fact that Jackson's legendary videos were instrumental both in the development of the channel and the art form itsemf.

As we float above the royal image of Jackson — which is similar to a number of paintings the singer commissioned during his life in which he was placed into historical settings — we arrive at the menacing robotic face in the corner from Jackson's 1988 movie "Moonwalker," which co-starred Joe Pesci.

If there is a single moment in MJ's career that can be considered ground zero for his superstardom, it might be his 1983 performance on "Motown 25: Yesterday, Today, Forever." There, he unveiled his signature dance move, the Moonwalk, for the first time.

With the sun setting behind him, we see a 21-year-old Jackson sporting his late-'70s afro and a tuxedo, an homage to the cover of his breakthrough solo album Off the Wall.

Some of Jackson's most gravity-defying moves popped up in the Prohibition-themed clip for 1987's "Smooth Criminal."

The best-selling video of all time, "Thriller" is, to this day, thought of as the "Citizen Kane" of music videos. Here we see Jackson backed by some of the ghouls from the werewolf-themed mini-movie, which was shot by "Animal House" director John Landis. A classic scene from the "Thriller" video during which Jackson does his spotlight dance with the undead.

In addition to being one of the best-selling artists of all time, Jackson was also a humanitarian involved in many causes. He co-wrote and performed on 1985's legendary "We Are The World."

Here he's depicted alongside some of the other stars from that once-in-a-lifetime charity single, including co-writer Lionel Richie, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen and Cyndi Lauper.

Hidden just behind Jackson's get-up from the "Smooth Criminal" video is a mirror with a reflectio...the singer, which Nelson likely included as a sly reference to one of the Jackson's most beloved ballads, "Man in the Mirror."

But also hidden in the image, just above the elephant's head, is a bubble containing singer Prince's signature male-female glyph. Throughout the 1980s and 1990s, Jackson and Prince had a contentious, competitive relationship and the inclusion of the diminutive Minneapolis star's logo could be intended as a playful tweak

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A few oversights and misguided references but nice pick up on Man In The Mirror - something that I hadn't clicked, and also the Goldfish with a crown - I missed the crown and the whole "living in a fishbowl" reference.

[Edited 11/5/10 16:43pm]

bboy87 said:

Listening to the small snippet, I wonder what they did. it's one of the songs he did with the Cascios in 2007 but it sounds like maybe Rodney Jerkins had a hand in it also. Maybe this was one of his contributions to the album

It feels like it could be Tabloid Junkie Part 2

[Edited 11/5/10 16:29pm]

If it's TJ2 then I'll be happy as I love TJ.

BTW - isn't the face behind MJ in the OTW pose Marlon?

I figured it was a hint of the Triumph album cover.

I guess i'm in the minority here because I actually like the album cover. I like the preview of the song too, it sounds like "Tabloid Junkie". Same kind of theme. CANT WAIT TO HEAR THE WHOLE THING!

Cinnamon234 said:

I guess i'm in the minority here because I actually like the album cover. I like the preview of the song too, it sounds like "Tabloid Junkie". Same kind of theme. CANT WAIT TO HEAR THE WHOLE THING!

Same here. Seeing as some of HIStory Disc 2 is my favorite in Michael's whole catalog,

I'm REALLY EXCITED about the direction of this song. Enough with the "mainstream

pop songs" - we got enough of that on Invincible and even with the track, "This Is It" -

hopefully we get to hear a more personal side of Michael..the man ala HIStory and

BOTDF. That is when MJ was at his best IMO.

If you want mainstream everyday pop music, go spin Off The Wall or

even Bad. Enough of that stuff already.

[Edited 11/5/10 16:43pm]

Swa said:

BTW - isn't the face behind MJ in the OTW pose Marlon?

I figured it was a hint of the Triumph album cover.

It looks like it could be the artist of the painting, Kadir Nelson

WetDream said:

I know it's only a snippet, but a huge NO on it so far. Dated same old, same old. I can't see my opinion changing much as the beat foundation is there and it's too similar and over done. Bad drum machine and violin synth. Hoping for good vocals....

Tbqh you were up in here last time bitching about his music when you've realized that you've grown past it as it's too 'juvenile' for your 'grown up tastes.' If that's how you felt before, then this album isn't going to make you feel any different. You may fancy a song here and there, but overall it's going to be 'below' you. It's not that your opinion is valid or invalid, but I don't know what you think you are going to find here. So either just come to that realization and cut your losses or accept it and just take it for what it is.

Like seriously.

When you grow up and mature, then come back as by then you finally might be able to enjoy the music for what it is rather than for what you want it to be.

it wouldn't suprise me if between now and when the album drops, some changes will be made..this isn't the finished product...gues i'll have to wait till monday to hear the new song.

Here's some songs the J5 remade:

RipTheJacker said:

it wouldn't suprise me if between now and when the album drops, some changes will be made..this isn't the finished product...gues i'll have to wait till monday to hear the new song.

They've been working on non stop since August and Sony didn't even get all the details until earlier this week

Militant said:

The "Breaking News" VIDEO TRAILER is up!!!! The song sounds HOT!!! OMG!!!!

http://breakingnews.micha...2520teaser

Michael I know I will cry when I hear this.....Omg