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Reply #1080 posted 11/09/10 2:39pm

Marrk

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MothaFunky said:

Militant said:

I sent y'all the snippets who orgnoted me.

but more importantly....we have PROOF of the Sony/Malachi connection.

The song Jason is singing here:

http://v.youku.com/v_show...5OTk2.html

Is the same song as "All I Need" that is part of the album snippets!!!! Caught out!!!!

Good work Militant biggrin

Sweet Jesus Christ. What the fuck is going on here? I WILL sue Sony myself if they keep up with this horrible deceptive bullshit.

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Reply #1081 posted 11/09/10 2:42pm

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Superstition said:

Swa said:

I may be wrong - and will admit it if I am - but after listening to this clean a capella I am more inclined to say this is MJ.

As I stated from first listening to the songs MJ is there but his vocals are augmented and embelished with other's on backing vocals - you can clearly hear it is someone else on the backing vocals on key accent words like "Jackson".

I think we are all so use to Michael recording his layered harmonious backing vocals on his albums, and to hear other people singing backing vocals is throwing things up for us.

You have to think that with these recordings if there are gaps they will try to fill them to create a full song. That means getting in backing vocalists to flesh it out (like they did with This Is It using the Jacksons). IT's no different to what hundred's of other artists do who use backing vocalists to support the leads.

Hopefully soon credits for the track will be released and a lot of the questioning will be answered.

Feels like everyone has a "source" and they're all saying conflicting things, lol.

Just give me Another Day already, lol.

Have you heard the snippet of "monster"? Same fake vocals, even worse than Breaking News.

The thing is, about 6 snippets leaked, and the tracks believed to be Cascio tracks are the ones fans, once again, immediately picked out as fake.

Don't you think its funny that so many fans are having the same immediate reactions to the same songs supposedly recorded at someone's house?

To be honest I haven't heard Monster - it was taken down before I got a chance. Likewise with "Do you know where your children are".

I don't chase down snippets as I can't verify where they came from or their authenticity. Heard so many "new song" clips on youtube over the years that were obviously fake I gave up.

I'll wait for "official" releases.

To that point - I'm trying to hold out on what the album sounds like or what songs are going to be on it - only because when I bought all his albums on the day of release you didn't know what it was going to sound like. There is something still exciting and listening to a new set of songs you've never heard before - and I wanna keep that.

LOL - who knew a Michael Jackson release would cause controversy, lmao

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Reply #1082 posted 11/09/10 2:42pm

Timmy84

"Blue Gangsta" is TIGHT! So is "Much Too Soon".

"All I Need" is definitely Jason.

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Reply #1083 posted 11/09/10 2:43pm

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^^ Could be these collection of snippets are just gathered by a well meaning fan who bunched them all together - not knowing the JM songs or not.

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Reply #1084 posted 11/09/10 2:44pm

Timmy84

Swa said:

Superstition said:

Have you heard the snippet of "monster"? Same fake vocals, even worse than Breaking News.

The thing is, about 6 snippets leaked, and the tracks believed to be Cascio tracks are the ones fans, once again, immediately picked out as fake.

Don't you think its funny that so many fans are having the same immediate reactions to the same songs supposedly recorded at someone's house?

To be honest I haven't heard Monster - it was taken down before I got a chance. Likewise with "Do you know where your children are".

I don't chase down snippets as I can't verify where they came from or their authenticity. Heard so many "new song" clips on youtube over the years that were obviously fake I gave up.

I'll wait for "official" releases.

To that point - I'm trying to hold out on what the album sounds like or what songs are going to be on it - only because when I bought all his albums on the day of release you didn't know what it was going to sound like. There is something still exciting and listening to a new set of songs you've never heard before - and I wanna keep that.

LOL - who knew a Michael Jackson release would cause controversy, lmao

Honestly you didn't think it would, did ya? lol

Hearing "Breaking News" again, I hear more Jason in this. Michael's part is Hiiii, myyyyy or whatever that is. lol

Everything else is Malachi and sampled MJ whoops.

Sorry but no cigar Swa. hah!

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Reply #1085 posted 11/09/10 2:46pm

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Timmy84 said:

"All I Need" is definitely Jason.

'Jason'? you're too kind Timmy. You meant that 'Malachi cunt'. Right?

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Reply #1086 posted 11/09/10 2:47pm

Timmy84

Superstition said:

Swa said:

I may be wrong - and will admit it if I am - but after listening to this clean a capella I am more inclined to say this is MJ.

As I stated from first listening to the songs MJ is there but his vocals are augmented and embelished with other's on backing vocals - you can clearly hear it is someone else on the backing vocals on key accent words like "Jackson".

I think we are all so use to Michael recording his layered harmonious backing vocals on his albums, and to hear other people singing backing vocals is throwing things up for us.

You have to think that with these recordings if there are gaps they will try to fill them to create a full song. That means getting in backing vocalists to flesh it out (like they did with This Is It using the Jacksons). IT's no different to what hundred's of other artists do who use backing vocalists to support the leads.

Hopefully soon credits for the track will be released and a lot of the questioning will be answered.

Feels like everyone has a "source" and they're all saying conflicting things, lol.

Just give me Another Day already, lol.

Have you heard the snippet of "monster"? Same fake vocals, even worse than Breaking News.

The thing is, about 6 snippets leaked, and the tracks believed to be Cascio tracks are the ones fans, once again, immediately picked out as fake.

Don't you think its funny that so many fans are having the same immediate reactions to the same songs supposedly recorded at someone's house?

That's what struck me odd too. How do we know about Michael recording at someone's house all the way in New Jersey? lol That's another RED FLAG raised right fucking there! lol

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Reply #1087 posted 11/09/10 2:47pm

Timmy84

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The person who leaked Monster gave a fan some snippets. It was posted on MJJC. We really don't know which songs are gonna be on the album. But if the songs "Monster", "Carry On", and "All I Need" are included, they're fake just as "Breaking News". Much Too Soon is Mike though.

Well then again these are snippets who knows what they did throughout the whole song of Much Too Soon. But from what is heard so far.. it's Mike.

[Edited 11/9/10 13:55pm]

Yeah "Carry On" is fake too.

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Reply #1088 posted 11/09/10 2:48pm

Timmy84

Marrk said:

Timmy84 said:

"All I Need" is definitely Jason.

'Jason'? you're too kind Timmy. You meant that 'Malachi cunt'. Right?

lol Malachi pussy/cunt. lol Yeah.

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Reply #1089 posted 11/09/10 2:48pm

PYTDee

One of the snippets.."All I Need" :

In our continuing series on the making of Michael Jackson‘s forthcoming “Michael” album:

Producers of the album–including co-executor John McClain–sent Burt Bacharach a song Michael recorded with Eddie Cascio called “All I Need.”

The legendary writer-producer went into the studio and added strings, etc. to the track. But it didn’t sound right, sources tell me, and was ultimately rejected. “All I Need,” in some form, may wind up on another album of unreleased Jackson songs. But it won’t be on “Michael.”

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Reply #1090 posted 11/09/10 2:51pm

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Timmy84 said:

Swa said:

To be honest I haven't heard Monster - it was taken down before I got a chance. Likewise with "Do you know where your children are".

I don't chase down snippets as I can't verify where they came from or their authenticity. Heard so many "new song" clips on youtube over the years that were obviously fake I gave up.

I'll wait for "official" releases.

To that point - I'm trying to hold out on what the album sounds like or what songs are going to be on it - only because when I bought all his albums on the day of release you didn't know what it was going to sound like. There is something still exciting and listening to a new set of songs you've never heard before - and I wanna keep that.

LOL - who knew a Michael Jackson release would cause controversy, lmao

Honestly you didn't think it would, did ya? lol

Hearing "Breaking News" again, I hear more Jason in this. Michael's part is Hiiii, myyyyy or whatever that is. lol

Everything else is Malachi and sampled MJ whoops.

Sorry but no cigar Swa. hah!

Maybe sarcasm doesn't come across in here - but I was being sarcastic. I knew this release would never pass without it.

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Reply #1091 posted 11/09/10 2:53pm

MothaFunky

Marrk said:

MothaFunky said:

Good work Militant biggrin

Sweet Jesus Christ. What the fuck is going on here? I WILL sue Sony myself if they keep up with this horrible deceptive bullshit.

Very appropriate avatar Mark lol

[Edited 11/9/10 14:53pm]

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Reply #1092 posted 11/09/10 2:54pm

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So of the 6 snippets I've heard

All I Need- the first 3 seconds sound like Michael, the rest? NOPE
Blue Gangsta- MICHAEL
Carry On- nope
Much Too Soon- MICHAEL
Love Never Felt So Good- MICHAEL
Another Day- MICHAEL

Sony needs to take All I Need, Carry On, Monster, and Breaking News off the album ASAP

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Reply #1093 posted 11/09/10 2:54pm

Timmy84

Swa said:

Timmy84 said:

Honestly you didn't think it would, did ya? lol

Hearing "Breaking News" again, I hear more Jason in this. Michael's part is Hiiii, myyyyy or whatever that is. lol

Everything else is Malachi and sampled MJ whoops.

Sorry but no cigar Swa. hah!

Maybe sarcasm doesn't come across in here - but I was being sarcastic. I knew this release would never pass without it.

I was playing with ya too. wink

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Reply #1094 posted 11/09/10 2:56pm

Timmy84

bboy87 said:

So of the 6 snippets I've heard

All I Need- the first 3 seconds sound like Michael, the rest? NOPE
Blue Gangsta- MICHAEL
Carry On- nope
Much Too Soon- MICHAEL
Love Never Felt So Good- MICHAEL
Another Day- MICHAEL

Sony needs to take All I Need, Carry On, Monster, and Breaking News off the album ASAP

nod

And yeah "All I Need" should not be on any posthumous release...EVER (since that song is supposedly going to be on another posthumous release). "Carry On" is definitely not Michael.


Everything else is Michael.

It's safe to say "All I Need", "Carry On", "Breaking News" and "Monster" are the fakes.

[Edited 11/9/10 14:59pm]

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Reply #1095 posted 11/09/10 2:56pm

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MothaFunky said:

Marrk said:

Sweet Jesus Christ. What the fuck is going on here? I WILL sue Sony myself if they keep up with this horrible deceptive bullshit.

Very appropriate avatar Mark lol

[Edited 11/9/10 14:53pm]

Truth! It's unbelievable what going on. lol

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Reply #1096 posted 11/09/10 2:56pm

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Wait a minute...I thought Sony was taking "Breaking News" was being taken off the album according to Sony? (There is actually a separate thread here on the org about it) Was that just BS?

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Reply #1097 posted 11/09/10 3:00pm

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Vanilli said:

Wait a minute...I thought Sony was taking "Breaking News" was being taken off the album according to Sony? (There is actually a separate thread here on the org about it) Was that just BS?

I hope so. I'd take an 8 or 9 track album right now or even a shorter fucking E.P. All Mike's vocals of course.

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Reply #1098 posted 11/09/10 3:02pm

Timmy84

Vanilli said:

Wait a minute...I thought Sony was taking "Breaking News" was being taken off the album according to Sony? (There is actually a separate thread here on the org about it) Was that just BS?

Who knows? I read that info on that site. There could be truth in it who knows? I hope it's off.

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Reply #1099 posted 11/09/10 3:08pm

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Vanilli said:

Wait a minute...I thought Sony was taking "Breaking News" was being taken off the album according to Sony? (There is actually a separate thread here on the org about it) Was that just BS?

Would be the smart thing to do. But the thread has no "source" and there is nothing in google about this statement.

Hopefully it is confirmed or backed up with a source soon.

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Reply #1100 posted 11/09/10 3:09pm

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I hate all this drama and stuff but I gotta say..it is great to be

reading posts from most of my MJ fam here on a regular basis

these past few days. When the album drops and these con songs

aren't (hopefully) on it in any way shape or form, I hope we can all

have a good laugh about this.

"Remember when..."

MJ Fan 1992-Forever

My Org Family: Cinnie, bboy87, Cinnamon234, AnckSuNamun, lilgish, thekidsgirl, thesexofit, Universaluv, theSpark, littlemissG, ThreadCula, badujunkie, DANGEROUSx, Timmy84, MikeMatronik, DarlingDiana, dag, Nvncible1
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Reply #1101 posted 11/09/10 3:10pm

Timmy84

Vanilli said:

I hate all this drama and stuff but I gotta say..it is great to be

reading posts from most of my MJ fam here on a regular basis

these past few days. When the album drops and these con songs

aren't (hopefully) on it in any way shape or form, I hope we can all

have a good laugh about this.

"Remember when..."

nod lol

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Reply #1102 posted 11/09/10 3:11pm

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Timmy84 said:

"Blue Gangsta" is TIGHT! So is "Much Too Soon".

"All I Need" is definitely Jason.

send them to me eek
MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P
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Reply #1103 posted 11/09/10 3:11pm

Swa

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Vanilli said:

I hate all this drama and stuff but I gotta say..it is great to be

reading posts from most of my MJ fam here on a regular basis

these past few days. When the album drops and these con songs

aren't (hopefully) on it in any way shape or form, I hope we can all

have a good laugh about this.

"Remember when..."

Agreed - though shouldn't it be "Remember the time when..."

And you call yourself a fan razz (<--- that is a joke)

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Reply #1104 posted 11/09/10 3:13pm

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I remember back when I was looking to the info about the Cascio tracks, barely anything came up and when they registered the songs to the US Copyright Office, they didn't name the songs, just in one set as "MJ Songbook"

Brad Buxer submitted all the tracks he did with Michael individually and as a set but the songs were named.....

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Reply #1105 posted 11/09/10 3:14pm

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BTW - anyone visit michaeljackson.com and click through to the home page.

It's reverted back to This Is It.

What is going on....

http://www.michaeljackson.com/home

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Reply #1106 posted 11/09/10 3:14pm

Timmy84

bboy87 said:

I remember back when I was looking to the info about the Cascio tracks, barely anything came up and when they registered the songs to the US Copyright Office, they didn't name the songs, just in one set as "MJ Songbook"

Brad Buxer submitted all the tracks he did with Michael individually and as a set but the songs were named.....

Another red flag.

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Reply #1107 posted 11/09/10 3:15pm

Timmy84

Swa said:

BTW - anyone visit michaeljackson.com and click through to the home page.

It's reverted back to This Is It.

What is going on....

http://www.michaeljackson.com/home

hah!

It's gone. cool

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Reply #1108 posted 11/09/10 3:20pm

MothaFunky

Timmy84 said:

Swa said:

BTW - anyone visit michaeljackson.com and click through to the home page.

It's reverted back to This Is It.

What is going on....

http://www.michaeljackson.com/home

hah!

It's gone. cool

Hmm maybe Sony are going to put a page up with previews of all the tracks they were going to put on the album and let us hear samples and vote on what we think of them and whether they should be removed lol

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Reply #1109 posted 11/09/10 3:22pm

Timmy84

MothaFunky said:

Timmy84 said:

hah!

It's gone. cool

Hmm maybe Sony are going to put a page up with previews of all the tracks they were going to put on the album and let us hear samples and vote on what we think of them and whether they should be removed lol

Probably. But remember the track was supposed to be up for a FULL WEEK. For them to take it down a day later shows you something's up! lol typing

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