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Thread started 08/28/10 3:30pm

JoeTyler

2004 was the WORST year of all time...

...for pop music dead

I'm currently compiling a list of good dance, pop, rock, etc. hits of the 00s, and looking at the list of Nº1 hits (Billboard) in the USA, I've discovered, completely disgusted, completely amazed, that 2004 was the year when the mainstream audiences finally lost any trace of good taste and embraced shit-hop and shit-dance with open arms (why, I don't know...)

Just take a look at the list of stinkers that got the nº1 position (I'm gonna exclude Hey Ya! which was the only great nº1 single of that stinky year, during January)

February 14 "The Way You Move" OutKast featuring Sleepy Brown [16]
February 21 "Slow Jamz" Twista featuring Kanye West and Jamie Foxx [17]
February 28 "Yeah!" Usher featuring Lil Jon and Ludacris [18]
March 6 [19]
March 13 [20]
March 20 [21]
March 27 [22]
April 3 [23]
April 10 [24]
April 17 [25]
April 24 [26]
May 1 [27]
May 8 [28]
May 15 [29]
May 22 "Burn" Usher [30]
May 29 [31]
June 5 [32]
June 12 [33]
June 19 [34]
June 26 [35]
July 3 [36]
July 10 "I Believe" Fantasia [37]
July 17 "Burn" Usher [38]
July 24 "Confessions Part II" [39]
July 31 [40]
August 7 "Slow Motion" Juvenile featuring Soulja Slim [41]
August 14 [42]
August 21 "Lean Back" Terror Squad [43]
August 28 [44]
September 4 [45]
September 11 "Goodies" Ciara featuring Petey Pablo [46]
September 18 [47]
September 25 [48]
October 2 [49]
October 9 [50]
October 16 [51]
October 23 [52]
October 30 "My Boo" Usher and Alicia Keys [53]
November 6 [54]
November 13 [55]
November 20 [56]
November 27 [57]
December 4 [58]
December 11 "Drop It Like It's Hot" Snoop Dogg featuring Pharrell [59]
December 18 [60]
December 25 [61]

I MEAN, ARE YOU FUCKIN' KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!!! YAAAAAACK! ill barf

I know that during 2004 some great albums were released, but as far as Nº1 hits goes, that year was a disaster, the year, as I've said before, when the old concept of "worthy hit single" just disappeared. Oh humanity!!! can you remember the days when Sinatra, Elvis, Beatles, Stones, Zeppelin, Bowie, Stevie, E,W&F, Bee Gees, M.Jackson, Kook and the Gang, Prince, Madonna, etc. scored timeless nº1 hits???. But...WHO THE FUCK IS GONNA REMEMBER THE "hit" (crappy) SINGLES OF THE BILLBOARD LIST DURING THE MID-TO LATE-00s. Shit, fuck, shit. mad FUCKIN' NOBODY! FUCKIN' NOBODY MAN!

Remember this: 2004 was the year that changed it all: SHIT-HOP AND SHIT-DANCE ARE HERE TO STAY... 6 YEARS OF PURE GARBAGE (despite some exceptions), 2005 was just as bad... eek disbelief But 2004 changed it all,...after 1939, 2004 has been the most harmful year for pop music, of-all-time..............

BILLBOARD= R.I.P.

what are YOU gonna do about it??? what do YOU think about it?

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Reply #1 posted 08/28/10 5:41pm

KoolEaze

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I stopped taking these charts seriously a looooong time ago. It´s all about payola, Clear Channel, some corporate giants and their mindtricks today. Young people and music remind me of this these days:

[img:$uid]http://beta.greenaction.de/files/imagecache/fullimage/files/mitmachphotos/foie_img034.jpg[/img:$uid]

Never mind the utterly shitty songs, what also worries me just as much as the terrible music is how the younger generations don´t seem to have any idea how good music is supposed to sound.....I mean, I know lots of young people who listen to their music on their stupid cellphone or mp3 player...they don´t even own decent loudspeakers or good headphones these days, the headphones they use sound just as cheap and plastic as the music.

All show, no substance. Total overkill.

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Reply #2 posted 08/28/10 5:49pm

Paris9748430

That list isn't that bad. The Way You Move is a great tune.

I can tolerate '04, '10 is fucking attrocious!!!

JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!!
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Reply #3 posted 08/28/10 5:49pm

Moonbeam

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I'd go back to 1999 to identify the year that #1 hits went totally in the crapper.

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Reply #4 posted 08/28/10 5:51pm

JoeTyler

KoolEaze said:

I stopped taking these charts seriously a looooong time ago. It´s all about payola, Clear Channel, some corporate giants and their mindtricks today.

Never mind the utterly shitty songs, what also worries me just as much as the terrible music is how the younger generations don´t seem to have any idea how good music is supposed to sound.....I mean, I know lots of young people who listen to their music on their stupid cellphone or mp3 player...they don´t even own decent loudspeakers or good headphones these days, the headphones they use sound just as cheap and plastic as the music.

All show, no substance. Total overkill.

Yeah neutral It's a terrifying scenario. One thing is for sure: the golden years of Billboard (high quality Nº1 singles by huge superstars/bands EVERY week) are long gone. sad

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Reply #5 posted 08/28/10 5:53pm

JoeTyler

Paris9748430 said:

That list isn't that bad. The Way You Move is a great tune.

I can tolerate '04, '10 is fucking attrocious!!!

Ok, I can tolerate The Way You Move, but it was a huge letdown for me after the excellence of Hey Ya!

and yeah, '05 and '10 are just as bad as '04 . But '04 truly was the beginning of the end...

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Reply #6 posted 08/28/10 5:53pm

Timmy84

Moonbeam said:

I'd go back to 1999 to identify the year that #1 hits went totally in the crapper.

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Reply #7 posted 08/28/10 6:00pm

JoeTyler

Moonbeam said:

I'd go back to 1999 to identify the year that #1 hits went totally in the crapper.

No no no, way off hmph!

During the 99-03 years there were many pop singles just as good as any pop classic of the previous decades; some clear examples: U2 comeback, Cher's Believe, Eminem early singles, C.Aguilera early singles, Daft Punk, Basement Jaxx, Jay Z, Kylie, Madonna) etc. The problem is: those quality singles were overshadowed by the rise of shit-hop...

'04 was the clear and definitive turning point, a COMPLETE AND UTTER WASTE (if we exclude Outkast's two singles...), just a bunch of bad Nº1 shit-hop "hit" singles. American youth is truly fucked up...

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Reply #8 posted 08/28/10 6:01pm

Moonbeam

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Actually, 1997 looks quite putrid too:

Toni Braxton- "Unbreak My Heart" confused

Spice Girls- "Wannabe" ill

Puff Daddy & Mase- "Can't Nobody Hold Me Down" disbelief

Notorious B.I.G.- "Hypnotize" smile

Hanson- "MMMBop" lol

Puff Daddy- "I'll Be Missing You" shake

Notorious B.I.G., Puffy, Mase- "Mo Money Mo Problems" uzi barf sad

Mariah Carey- "Honey" rolleyes

Boyz II Men- "4 Seasons of Loneliness" yawn

Elton John- "Candle in the Wind '97" fart

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Reply #9 posted 08/28/10 6:03pm

Timmy84

JoeTyler said:

Moonbeam said:

I'd go back to 1999 to identify the year that #1 hits went totally in the crapper.

No no no, way off hmph!

During the 99-03 years there were many pop singles just as good as any pop classic of the previous decades; some clear examples: U2 comeback, Cher's Believe, Eminem early singles, C.Aguilera early singles, Daft Punk, Basement Jaxx, Jay Z, Kylie, Madonna) etc. The problem is: those quality singles were overshadowed by the rise of shit-hop...

'04 was the clear and definitive turning point, a COMPLETE AND UTTER WASTE (if we exclude Outkast's two singles...), just a bunch of bad Nº1 shit-hop "hit" singles. American youth is truly fucked up...

Heh that IS a good point...

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Reply #10 posted 08/28/10 6:03pm

Moonbeam

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1998 isn't much better, and 1999 has the notoriety of having the worst song of all time hit #1- "Livin' la Vida Loca".

Really, it was the 90s that saw hits that stayed at #1 for months on end with practically no turnover or anything of interest.

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Reply #11 posted 08/28/10 6:06pm

Timmy84

Moonbeam said:

1998 isn't much better, and 1999 has the notoriety of having the worst song of all time hit #1- "Livin' la Vida Loca".

Really, it was the 90s that saw hits that stayed at #1 for months on end with practically no turnover or anything of interest.

Ugh...lol I had to be reminded of that song by Chris Rock. evillol

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Reply #12 posted 08/28/10 6:06pm

Moonbeam

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Timmy84 said:

JoeTyler said:

No no no, way off hmph!

During the 99-03 years there were many pop singles just as good as any pop classic of the previous decades; some clear examples: U2 comeback, Cher's Believe, Eminem early singles, C.Aguilera early singles, Daft Punk, Basement Jaxx, Jay Z, Kylie, Madonna) etc. The problem is: those quality singles were overshadowed by the rise of shit-hop...

'04 was the clear and definitive turning point, a COMPLETE AND UTTER WASTE (if we exclude Outkast's two singles...), just a bunch of bad Nº1 shit-hop "hit" singles. American youth is truly fucked up...

Heh that IS a good point...

U2 comeback was in 2000 and didn't produce any #1 hits. "Believe" is from 1998 and is pretty embarrassing in any case. Eminem's early singles weren't big hits. Xtina was bad from the start in my book. Daft Punk and Basement Jaxx are good, but they didn't have hit singles in the US. Kylie was nowhere in the US until 2002, and Madonna's overrated Music album only hit in 2000.

1999 was just dire, dire, dire.

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Reply #13 posted 08/28/10 6:06pm

midiscover

Eh ew that was when crunk was popular. Someone post the '09 list ill

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Reply #14 posted 08/28/10 6:08pm

Moonbeam

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I really think mainstream music went south in a big way in the mid-90s and hasn't recovered yet. The thing is, there's still a lot of fantastic music from the mid-90s on, but rarely did any of it get any kind of mainstream push, probably because radio playlists became shorter and shorter (which is why so many of those hits are safer and stayed on top for so long).

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Reply #15 posted 08/28/10 6:11pm

JoeTyler

Moonbeam said:

Actually, 1997 looks quite putrid too:

Toni Braxton- "Unbreak My Heart" confused

Spice Girls- "Wannabe" ill

Puff Daddy & Mase- "Can't Nobody Hold Me Down" disbelief

Notorious B.I.G.- "Hypnotize" smile

Hanson- "MMMBop" lol

Puff Daddy- "I'll Be Missing You" shake

Notorious B.I.G., Puffy, Mase- "Mo Money Mo Problems" uzi barf sad

Mariah Carey- "Honey" rolleyes

Boyz II Men- "4 Seasons of Loneliness" yawn

Elton John- "Candle in the Wind '97" fart

For me, the only real, disposable turd on that list is "Honey" .

The problem with '04 is: it featured a bunch of random shit-hop songs which sound cheap, sung by singers with 0% charisma and with poorly crafted choruses. Why those songs were Nº1's is beyond me... At least Unbreak My Heart was catchy and was sung by a beautiful voice...

Billboard used to feature state-of-the-art pop singles. Not anymore...

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Reply #16 posted 08/28/10 6:12pm

Harlepolis

KoolEaze said:

I stopped taking these charts seriously a looooong time ago. It´s all about payola, Clear Channel, some corporate giants and their mindtricks today. Young people and music remind me of this these days:

[img:$uid]http://beta.greenaction.de/files/imagecache/fullimage/files/mitmachphotos/foie_img034.jpg[/img:$uid]

Never mind the utterly shitty songs, what also worries me just as much as the terrible music is how the younger generations don´t seem to have any idea how good music is supposed to sound.....I mean, I know lots of young people who listen to their music on their stupid cellphone or mp3 player...they don´t even own decent loudspeakers or good headphones these days, the headphones they use sound just as cheap and plastic as the music.

All show, no substance. Total overkill.

What the hell is going on in that picture? eek

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Reply #17 posted 08/28/10 6:14pm

JoeTyler

Moonbeam said:

Timmy84 said:

Heh that IS a good point...

U2 comeback was in 2000 and didn't produce any #1 hits. "Believe" is from 1998 and is pretty embarrassing in any case. Eminem's early singles weren't big hits. Xtina was bad from the start in my book. Daft Punk and Basement Jaxx are good, but they didn't have hit singles in the US. Kylie was nowhere in the US until 2002, and Madonna's overrated Music album only hit in 2000.

1999 was just dire, dire, dire.

Yeah, that's more or less what I meant: 00-03 featured some quality singles that would have been CLEAR Nº1's during the 80s or the 90s, but as I said, they were sadly overshadowed by the rise of shit-hop. "One More Time" would have been a huge Nº1 hit single for 8 weeks in 1979... "Elevation" would have been a Nº1 in 1991 or 1992...

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Reply #18 posted 08/28/10 6:18pm

Moonbeam

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JoeTyler said:

Moonbeam said:

U2 comeback was in 2000 and didn't produce any #1 hits. "Believe" is from 1998 and is pretty embarrassing in any case. Eminem's early singles weren't big hits. Xtina was bad from the start in my book. Daft Punk and Basement Jaxx are good, but they didn't have hit singles in the US. Kylie was nowhere in the US until 2002, and Madonna's overrated Music album only hit in 2000.

1999 was just dire, dire, dire.

Yeah, that's more or less what I meant: 00-03 featured some quality singles that would have been CLEAR Nº1's during the 80s or the 90s, but as I said, they were sadly overshadowed by the rise of shit-hop. "One More Time" would have been a huge Nº1 hit single for 8 weeks in 1979... "Elevation" would have been a Nº1 in 1991 or 1992...

This I agree with! I just think the change happened earlier.

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Reply #19 posted 08/28/10 6:25pm

JoeTyler

Moonbeam said:

JoeTyler said:

Yeah, that's more or less what I meant: 00-03 featured some quality singles that would have been CLEAR Nº1's during the 80s or the 90s, but as I said, they were sadly overshadowed by the rise of shit-hop. "One More Time" would have been a huge Nº1 hit single for 8 weeks in 1979... "Elevation" would have been a Nº1 in 1991 or 1992...

This I agree with! I just think the change happened earlier.

Well, yes, 1997-98 was perhaps the "beginning" of the end (catchy hits anyway), but '04 was the definitive "coupe d'état". Shit-Hop won the war, and the younger, brainless generation who didn't even know the mainstream music from the late-90s took over. Democracy died in '04.

I mean, '04 featured Take Me Out, by Franz Ferdinand, ...I don't know if that song was even a top30 "hit" in the US sad neutral at the same time , Juvenile and Soulja Slim scored a Nº1 hit single barf confused

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Reply #20 posted 08/28/10 6:37pm

NastradumasKid

Moonbeam said:

1998 isn't much better, and 1999 has the notoriety of having the worst song of all time hit #1- "Livin' la Vida Loca".

Really, it was the 90s that saw hits that stayed at #1 for months on end with practically no turnover or anything of interest.

Yeah, I agree. I although there was some good music in the late 90s, a lot of it was pretty shitty, especially when Bad Boy took over Hip Hop... disbelief lol But, in all honesty, I rather listen to that than the mess that's out now. I lost interest on the latest music back in 2004 (surprised?), no thanks to Usher. But for almost two years, I've stopped listening to the radio. I honestly can't tell you what's the latest song out now unless it's Nas, Ludacris, or Kanye. lol

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Reply #21 posted 08/28/10 6:37pm

Moonbeam

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JoeTyler said:

Moonbeam said:

This I agree with! I just think the change happened earlier.

Well, yes, 1997-98 was perhaps the "beginning" of the end (catchy hits anyway), but '04 was the definitive "coupe d'état". Shit-Hop won the war, and the younger, brainless generation who didn't even know the mainstream music from the late-90s took over. Democracy died in '04.

I mean, '04 featured Take Me Out, by Franz Ferdinand, ...I don't know if that song was even a top30 "hit" in the US sad neutral at the same time , Juvenile and Soulja Slim scored a Nº1 hit single barf confused

"Take Me Out", like Modest Mouse's "Float On" and Yeah Yeah Yeahs' "Maps", barely cracked the Hot 100 in 2004. sad

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Reply #22 posted 08/28/10 6:44pm

NastradumasKid

Moonbeam said:

JoeTyler said:

Well, yes, 1997-98 was perhaps the "beginning" of the end (catchy hits anyway), but '04 was the definitive "coupe d'état". Shit-Hop won the war, and the younger, brainless generation who didn't even know the mainstream music from the late-90s took over. Democracy died in '04.

I mean, '04 featured Take Me Out, by Franz Ferdinand, ...I don't know if that song was even a top30 "hit" in the US sad neutral at the same time , Juvenile and Soulja Slim scored a Nº1 hit single barf confused

"Take Me Out", like Modest Mouse's "Float On" and Yeah Yeah Yeahs' "Maps", barely cracked the Hot 100 in 2004. sad

Confessions and stupid ass dance groups like Dem Franchise Boyz and D4L are one of the main reasons why I don't fuck with today's music, or better yet, Hip Hop/R&B. lol

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Reply #23 posted 08/28/10 7:24pm

PurpleJedi

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Harlepolis said:

KoolEaze said:

Young people and music remind me of this these days:

[img:$uid]http://beta.greenaction.de/files/imagecache/fullimage/files/mitmachphotos/foie_img034.jpg[/img:$uid]

What the hell is going on in that picture? eek

Uhm...I'm guessing they're force-feeding this duck SHIT?

There was a story about Chinese farmers force-feeding excrement to their pigs via hoses so that they'd weigh more at time of sale.

By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory!
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Reply #24 posted 08/28/10 8:07pm

728huey

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JoeTyler said:

...for pop music dead

I'm currently compiling a list of good dance, pop, rock, etc. hits of the 00s, and looking at the list of Nº1 hits (Billboard) in the USA, I've discovered, completely disgusted, completely amazed, that 2004 was the year when the mainstream audiences finally lost any trace of good taste and embraced shit-hop and shit-dance with open arms (why, I don't know...)

Just take a look at the list of stinkers that got the nº1 position (I'm gonna exclude Hey Ya! which was the only great nº1 single of that stinky year, during January)

February 14 "The Way You Move" OutKast featuring Sleepy Brown [16]
February 21 "Slow Jamz" Twista featuring Kanye West and Jamie Foxx [17]
February 28 "Yeah!" Usher featuring Lil Jon and Ludacris [18]
March 6 [19]
March 13 [20]
March 20 [21]
March 27 [22]
April 3 [23]
April 10 [24]
April 17 [25]
April 24 [26]
May 1 [27]
May 8 [28]
May 15 [29]
May 22 "Burn" Usher [30]
May 29 [31]
June 5 [32]
June 12 [33]
June 19 [34]
June 26 [35]
July 3 [36]
July 10 "I Believe" Fantasia [37]
July 17 "Burn" Usher [38]
July 24 "Confessions Part II" [39]
July 31 [40]
August 7 "Slow Motion" Juvenile featuring Soulja Slim [41]
August 14 [42]
August 21 "Lean Back" Terror Squad [43]
August 28 [44]
September 4 [45]
September 11 "Goodies" Ciara featuring Petey Pablo [46]
September 18 [47]
September 25 [48]
October 2 [49]
October 9 [50]
October 16 [51]
October 23 [52]
October 30 "My Boo" Usher and Alicia Keys [53]
November 6 [54]
November 13 [55]
November 20 [56]
November 27 [57]
December 4 [58]
December 11 "Drop It Like It's Hot" Snoop Dogg featuring Pharrell [59]
December 18 [60]
December 25 [61]

I MEAN, ARE YOU FUCKIN' KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!!! YAAAAAACK! ill barf

I know that during 2004 some great albums were released, but as far as Nº1 hits goes, that year was a disaster, the year, as I've said before, when the old concept of "worthy hit single" just disappeared. Oh humanity!!! can you remember the days when Sinatra, Elvis, Beatles, Stones, Zeppelin, Bowie, Stevie, E,W&F, Bee Gees, M.Jackson, Kook and the Gang, Prince, Madonna, etc. scored timeless nº1 hits???. But...WHO THE FUCK IS GONNA REMEMBER THE "hit" (crappy) SINGLES OF THE BILLBOARD LIST DURING THE MID-TO LATE-00s. Shit, fuck, shit. mad FUCKIN' NOBODY! FUCKIN' NOBODY MAN!

Remember this: 2004 was the year that changed it all: SHIT-HOP AND SHIT-DANCE ARE HERE TO STAY... 6 YEARS OF PURE GARBAGE (despite some exceptions), 2005 was just as bad... eek disbelief But 2004 changed it all,...after 1939, 2004 has been the most harmful year for pop music, of-all-time..............

BILLBOARD= R.I.P.

what are YOU gonna do about it??? what do YOU think about it?

What are you talking about? I know the 2000's overall was a crappy decade for music in genral, but 2004 was probably by far the best year of the decade. You had releases by LCD Soundsystem, Modest Mouse, Franz Ferdinand, The Killers, Interpol, Wilco, Jet and Arcade Fire, plus you had the amazing American Idiot album by Green Day plus Prince's comeback album Musicology, as well as decent albums from OutKast, Gwen Stefani and Alicia Keys. But then again you're only lookling at the Billboard Hot 100 charts, so of course it's gonna suck royally.

Now the following year, everything began going downhill. Despite Kanye's ego trips, he did put out an amazing album, Mariah had her best album in several years, and Beck was inventive as usual, but that was the same year when 50 Cent completely sold out, we got "classic" gems like "My Humps", "Wait Til You See My Dick". and "Laffy Taffy". In addition to crappy hip-hop, Nickelback suddenly became huge superstars. rolleyes And that year also signaled the rise of both Akon and T-Pain as huge musical influences. disbelief Once that happened, music went down the sewer.

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Reply #25 posted 08/28/10 8:22pm

Aryll

I like and still like all of those songs except ones by Fantasia, Juvenile, Alicia Keys and Usher, and Terror Squad.

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Reply #26 posted 08/28/10 9:01pm

KoolEaze

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Harlepolis said:

KoolEaze said:

I stopped taking these charts seriously a looooong time ago. It´s all about payola, Clear Channel, some corporate giants and their mindtricks today. Young people and music remind me of this these days:

[img:$uid]http://beta.greenaction.de/files/imagecache/fullimage/files/mitmachphotos/foie_img034.jpg[/img:$uid]

Never mind the utterly shitty songs, what also worries me just as much as the terrible music is how the younger generations don´t seem to have any idea how good music is supposed to sound.....I mean, I know lots of young people who listen to their music on their stupid cellphone or mp3 player...they don´t even own decent loudspeakers or good headphones these days, the headphones they use sound just as cheap and plastic as the music.

All show, no substance. Total overkill.

What the hell is going on in that picture? eek

They´re force feeding a goose.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foie_gras

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Reply #27 posted 08/28/10 9:55pm

PurpleJedi

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KoolEaze said:

Harlepolis said:

What the hell is going on in that picture? eek

They´re force feeding a goose.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foie_gras

thumbs up!

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Reply #28 posted 08/28/10 11:50pm

purplesweat

That picture is really fucking unnecessary.

Anyway, I've always thought 2003 was a great year then it went downhill til Lady Gaga kicked some life back into the scene. I'm happy with pop at the moment (since 2009). I would go so far as to say MJ's passing also helped to reinvigorate some artists to try harder. But 2004-2008 really did suck, save for a few good songs here and there. I wasn't even listening to the radio in the end, now I can listen to it again.

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Reply #29 posted 08/29/10 12:22am

newskin69

2004 was a pretty bad year. I remember seeing the VMAs that year and I was like "wtf..."

I will say that 2009 and 2010 have been good though. Hip hop isnt the prime force it was previously, and now we're getting actual decent songs. Lady Gaga kicked some major ass into the scene for sure, and other artist's (Usher even) have made some really good songs that, for the first time in years, make radio listenable.

Shit, even f++king Justin Bieber has way more decent songs than any of the rap b.s. that came out the past couple of years. At least his are actually songs. So yeah, I think music in the past two years has been pretty good compared to previous years.

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