From Miss Diana Ross' May 15, 2010 concert in Boston:



Dang, this is sad. She sang "Missing You," JUST like I expected. Oh man....

NaughtyKitty said:[quote]

EmeraldSkies said:

Thanks I may have to look into that one [quote]

I pre-ordered mine here.

http://www.yesasia.com/gl.../info.html

bboy87 said:

I can't see the other 2 pictures. I got the set in the first picture last year,but I just pre-ordered the Invincible one.

EmeraldSkies said:

Someone bought them and put pictures on their blog
http://my-mjcollection.bl...ontra.html

I'd love to get these

bboy87 said:

You really should,they are beautiful! I also treated myself to these sets last year..



I really love the way they are presented,and the sound quality is amazing.

bboy87 said:

Damn, I would go for doctor´s degree in this course. I wish there was a job position for that, too. My dream job! I´d do it for free.

WaterInYourBath said:

Oh that was hard to take..

Swa said:

I think this is as far as i'm going to get and is pretty much what i think.

It seems it will remain another mystery.

MOL, in a sense i'm a former admirer but, i will always keep a watch on news because i grew up on him and can't just throw that away just because im not into the pop songs anymore.
I'm 50/50 on it all. I can adore his sweet nature but despise his deluded views and sick acts i.e. thinking he's some kind of god (Earth Song performances, hugging and kissing kids to forgive them, promos with him in slow motion, clips of ridiculous people fainting, all to a classical choral piece insinuating worship or religion!) or i can adore Off The Wall and despise later work.

But, whatever, i just casually follow. I get all my news from this thread.

WaterInYourBath said:

This is so sweet. I was thinking of taking my mother to see the concert too.

SherryJackson said:

I have nothing going for me in life anymore, but this would give me a big boost

NaughtyKitty said:

WaterInYourBath said:

Does anyone know if the booklets in the japan cd reissues are in english or in japanese?

Also anyone know if Sony is planning to issue these in the rest of the world or is it a Japan only issue?

Thanks

Swa

bboy87 said:

The source on MJCC confirmed that those 12 newly discovered songs are 100% completed.

Swa said:

They usualy come with 2 booklets. The original in english and one in Japanese

ANOTHER documentary

bboy87 said:

Here we go again. The funniest thing is that there were no pills, other than the ones given in order to administer Propofol, in Jackson's body. But people insist he was a pill addict.

It's easy to decipher: Joe and pals Leonard Rowe and Brian Oxman were hounding Michael as of 2007. This ended up with Michael refusing to even allow them into his house. They try to justify this to the rest of the family by claiming MJ is a junkie and refuses to have contact with his family because he doesn't want it to know. Then the Jacksons hound Michael for a reunion tour which results in MJ being tired of them and, therefore, refuses to have any contact with them. The family, eager to pressure him, wonders why doesn't MJ want contact with them and start thinking he is hiding something from them, hence the distance. They have absolutely no proof he is a drug addict, but because he refuses to have contact with the family, they think he is hiding something from them and, keeping in mind what they had been hearing (from Joe and his pals), start thinking MJ was a junkie. Then, everytime they reach MJ they ask him if he is a drug addict. MJ replies "no" but they, eager to find a justification for the distance kept (since the Jacksons' ego doesn't allow them to look at their own actions) still think he is a drug addict. Then MJ dies and, three weeks after, you have the Jacksons screaming "DRUGGIE". Just read Tito's interview with the Mirror. He confesses he has no proof that MJ is an addict, but because he refused to ahve contact with his family and because of what they had been hearing from "sources", the family thinks he is a junkie. So, I give them ZERO credibility. Even if Michael was an addict the facts remain: the only reason as to why the Jackons claim he was an addict is the fact that he kept a distance from them, so, therefore, they think Michael was "hiding something". And Joe and his pals did the rest whenever they couldn't get $$$ out of MJ. Tito confessed this.

First they pressured MJ to do a reunion tour. Then MJ tired of the hounding completely cuts contact with them, so they start thinking he is hiding something, and conjecture that he is a drug addict. He dies, and the family does everything in its power to perpetuate the MJ was a junkie B.S..

^^ So you think the Jacksons are lying about the 'interventions' to save face? Some of them can definitely come across as shady, but what reason would Janet have to lie?

MOL said:

You continue to miss the point. At the time of his death MJ may have not had that much drugs in him, apart from what Dr Murray had given him. However, MJ himself had admitted through his music he was addicted to drugs in the pass. Now the fact that he had been taking propofol to help him sleep in itself proves that he must have built up a tolerance to more conventional sleeping medication. Dr Murray was NOT the first person to give him propofol, he was just neglectful with it. Drug addiction is similar to alcholism. Most alcoholics still see themselves as alcoholics even though they may have not had a drink for 10 years.

bboy87 said:

Hmm... first verse live, the rest of it lip synched.

Layzie said:

Cause she's lazily going with the flow?

It's all a pretence, unity, family honour, The Jacksons Dynasty bullshit. They're as fake as they come. I've washed my hands of the sorry, lazy, money-grubbing Jacksons this last year.

I look forward to 'new' music from Michael in the future, if it includes work with his brothers, i'll reluctantly have to put up with that. But really, fuck the rest of those useless, lazy, talent-challenged siblings.

is will.i.am being talked out of not releasing his songs ?

and did mike ever do work with that irv gotti guy i cant imagine him singing murder on every song( i know the article is from way back but hey i was curious if they ever did something)

whatsgoingon said:

No, whatsgoingon, you are the one who is missing the point because you don't know what Propofol is. Taking Propofol, even continuously, does not equal being a drug addict. First, Propofol stays in the body for 3-4 minutes and acts immediately which makes it almost impossible to become addicted to it. Besides, an addict to propofol can't even move!

Here's what you don't understand: taking Propofol, even on a daily basis, has nothing to do with drug addiction. A current example (yet stupid but elucidative) to make it easier: a person who is opperated everyday, and therefore is anesthesiated with Propofol, is not a drug addict.




He had a dependency on drugs in 1993, which started after the pedophilia accusations. He went to rehab for it. We're talking about a few months dependency which ended with rehab. So I fail to dee your point, if there's anything to see, anyway.


Yes, that's true. I just fail to see what's so relevant in that fact. He was an insomniac who wanted to sleep hence the Propofol use. He used it whenever he was on tour post 1993. MJ was desperate to sleep, tired. So when he was on tour, he needed to rest. So, he hired a doctor to put him to sleep everynight so he wouldn't be tired the next day and, consequently, be capable of presenting a good show. Dr. Ionache was the other doctor who gave Propofol to him. And you know what he said? "Michael wasn't a drug addict." and even told a story about Michael giving money to one of his patients. The funniest part of it: you just read the part of the interview in which the guy said he had given Michael Propofol. You "forgot" to read the part in which Ionache talks about Michael NOT being a drug addict. Just like Cherilyn Lee said: "Michael Jackson wasn't a drug addict. He just wanted to sleep.".

To sum up: Jackson took Propofol when he was on tour so that he would be able to rest, since he was an insomniac. He wasn't addicted to it, he simply wanted to sleep. So, he hires doctors to put him to sleep safely.

And here, Whatgoingon, is where you realize you were the one who missed the point. You can advance to the "you're an worshipper" argument. It may be the only one you have left.

Marrk said:

Isn't it funny that the Jacksons never give a timeline for the "interventions"? Isn't it funny that Janet quickly deviated the conversation when Oprah asked her to give a timeline for the interventions? She got away with it by claiming she hadn't been in the last intervention (while ignoring the other part of her question...the timeline!). Had Oprah asked her about the 2nd, 3rd, 4rd interventions, Janet would have said she wasn't in those interventions as well. It's so obvious they're doing this so that no one (since the public thinks Jackson was a druggie) will point the finger to them and claim: "Your brother was a drug addict with 3 kids and you did nothing.". The Jacksons are obsessed with the "perfect family" image and that's not new to anyone. It reminds me of Margaret Maldonado saying Tito and Jackie frequently talked about Joe as some kind of monster, yet, in the media, they put him in an amazingly positive light.

Or maybe, they genuinely think they intervened. Perhaps they think that, whenever they reached him and, after pressuring him endlessly, asked him if he was a junkie, they were making interventions. Or, most probably, the Jacksons want to think that whenever they asked him- after the houndings- if he was a druggie, that was an intervention.

And, why, in the blue hell, would people who abandon their own kids, care about a brother? Why in the blue hell would Tito- who refused to even pay for his kids' studies and aliments- care about a brother? Wny would Jermaine and Randy who, pure and simply, abandoned their own children, care about a brother? Why would Randy who has never talked to his own children (his daughters said this) care about a brother?

It seems to me they remembered the times in which they hounded Michael and whenever they reached him- after hours of failed pressure- asked him if he was a drug addict (since, in their minds, MJ refused to have contact with them because he was "hiding something") and, now, they exxagerate it and make it seem as if it was an intervention. Or, and all the available evidence appoints in this direction, they invented the interventions so that the "perfect family" ballooney wouldn't be ruined.
[Edited 5/19/10 12:09pm]

WildStyle said:

I was talking to a guy who mixed the first 2 shows Michael did at Wembley for the Bad tour, and he said Michael always sang live but to the prerecorded vocals. The tapes he has of the shows has Michael singing completely live, even to songs he lipsynched to (Smooth Criminal, Bad, and The Way You Make Me Feel)

WaterInYourBath said:

Lovely

MOL said:[quote]

whatsgoingon said:

The fact of the matter is, most people will not take propofol no matter how serve their insomnia is. MJ had obviously built up tolerance to more traditional sleeping medication, that in itself is a kind of addiction, if he had to take propofol now and again to sleep. Don't kid yourself to think that is normal behaviour for someone who suffers from insominia no matter how serve their problem is. The thing about you guys you see addictions as a hard-core druggie living on the street, shooting up every minute. Drug addiction comes in various forms.