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Reply #60 posted 05/16/10 10:42pm

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Ok so Moonwalker is coming out on Blu-ray, but only in the UK. Does anybody know if this will make its way over to America sometime? sad


http://www.amazon.co.uk/M...831&sr=1-1


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Hopefully,but just in case I ordered the Japan Region A version. It is supposed to play here according to the website. smile

Region A includes most North, Central and South American and Southeast Asian countries plus Taiwan, Hong Kong, Japan and Korea
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Reply #61 posted 05/16/10 10:59pm

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NaughtyKitty said:

Ok so Moonwalker is coming out on Blu-ray, but only in the UK. Does anybody know if this will make its way over to America sometime? sad


http://www.amazon.co.uk/M...831&sr=1-1


mad

The Blu Ray has already come out in some areas

thanks to droid on mjjc for these pictures

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Reply #62 posted 05/17/10 6:57am

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EmeraldSkies said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Ok so Moonwalker is coming out on Blu-ray, but only in the UK. Does anybody know if this will make its way over to America sometime? sad


http://www.amazon.co.uk/M...831&sr=1-1


mad


Hopefully,but just in case I ordered the Japan Region A version. It is supposed to play here according to the website. smile

Region A includes most North, Central and South American and Southeast Asian countries plus Taiwan, Hong Kong, Japan and Korea
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Thanks I may have to look into that one smile

Fun facts about Moonwalker from IMDB.com:

*When Michael is taking off the rabbit costume, he pulls down the pants and he has no gloves on, although the next thing you see him take off are the gloves. When he takes off the mask, the gloves are back on. He also has no tape around his fingers when he's taking off the costume, but he has it on when he has the dance-off with Spike (the rabbit, come-to-life), although it is on his fingers when he puts the mask with the other clothes.

*While Michael is performing "Come Together" his white shirt is ripped to his chest, then to his pants, then not ripped at all, then ripped to his pants, and so on throughout the whole performance.

http://www.imdb.com/title...5655/goofs
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Reply #63 posted 05/17/10 7:09am

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New Michael Jackson Movies: Thriller 3D & ‘Gone Too Soon’

Michael Jackson's 'Thriller' may be converted to 3D, while a documentary about the King of Pop's life is already being picked up by distributors worldwide.


If the concert film This Is It left you hungry for more Michael Jackson movies, and you’ve already been down to Walt Disney World for the return of Captain EO, you could be in luck. Two separate Michael Jackson movies are in the works, both of which may end up on the big screen if there’s enough interest in them.

Given the popularity of This Is It, there’s a good chance of that both Thriller 3D and Gone Too Soon will make it to theaters.

First, an oldie but a goodie: “Thriller” was the short film/music video that was directed by John Landis (An American Werewolf in London) and was originally released in theaters as a pre-feature exclusive to Disney’s re-release of Fantasia. According to CHUD, MJ’s estate wants to retrofit the 14-minute video as a digital 3D film.

At a recent event in London, Landis said he’s okay with the idea (despite not being a fan of the technology), but he’s not sure if it will go out to cinemas or just end up on a 3D Blu-ray. The video’s original theatrical release was merely to qualify for the Oscars, but with all the 3D movies coming out these days, and the continued fandom for MJ (who despite being dead just negotiated the biggest record deal of all time), “Thriller 3D” could easily make it into theaters.

One film that would make sense for an MJ double feature (if it were also filmed in 3D) is Gone Too Soon, a documentary that Variety reports was pieced together from 300 hours of footage by Ian Halperin, the author of the book Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson.

The 88-minute film so far has theatrical runs booked for Canada and France (opening June 25th, the anniversary of MJ’s death) and television rights sold to other territories. But there doesn’t appear to be plans for a U.S. release just yet. Halperin claims, “this is the film Michael and his fans deserve,” so hopefully the latter will get to see it soon.

Now, when do I get my desired 3D re-release of Moonwalker?

We’ll keep you updated on both Thriller 3D and Gone Too Soon as the news rolls in.

http://screenrant.com/mic...isc-49133/

New Jackson documentary coming 'Soon'
Halperin brings King of Pop's final days to bigscreen
By MICHAEL SCHNEIDER


The author behind "Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson" is tackling the King of Pop's last days for the bigscreen.
Author-filmmaker Ian Halperin is behind "Gone Too Soon," an 88-minute documentary about Jackson that is culled from 300 hours of footage shot inside the singer's camp.

Shine Intl., which holds global distribution rights to the doc, will unveil "Gone Too Soon" at next month's Mip TV confab in Cannes. Pic is set for a theatrical run in Canada and France, via Transit Medias, on June 25 -- the first anniversary of Jackson's death.

Halperin wrote "Unmasked," which hit No. 1 last year on the New York Times' bestsellers list, after spending five years investigating Jackson.

Footage in "Gone Too Soon" includes video and audio of Jackson shot before his death. It also includes interviews with Jackson's personal manager, chef, spiritual adviser, hairstylist, trainer, protective agent and attorney.

According to the filmmakers, Jackson family members were not involved but are aware of the film. Family attorney Brian Oxman is among the interviewees.

Despite its depiction of the more scandalous aspects of Jackson's life, Halperin called the movie "a balanced tribute to the King of Pop."

"This is the film Michael and his fans deserve," Halperin said.

Shine Intl. president Chris Grant said the doc would "eventually be known as a really important piece of the Michael Jackson saga."

"Ian's done an incredible job telling the story of what actually happened to Michael," Grant said. "We've teased it a bit and the reaction has been tremendous."

Halperin reported in December 2008 that Jackson was in weak health -- and was quoted in a celebrity mag at the time predicting that the pop star would be dead within six months.

Halperin's shingle and Objective Films are behind the doc, which will be distributed for TV in some territories and as a theatrical release in others. Halperin's credits include co-authoring two books about the death of Kurt Cobain, as well as the doc "His Highness Hollywood."

Halperin and Grant are producing "Gone Too Soon" along with Jarred Weisfeld and Sarah Girgis.

http://www.variety.com/ar...id=13&cs=1
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Reply #64 posted 05/17/10 7:39am

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What was the conclusion (or your own thoughts) on MJ's claims the police abused him physically upon booking him?
MJ claimed multiple things that also insinuated racism/discrimination but, then seemingly had them shot down by the Santa Police Dep. one by one.

Then, when you view MJ speaking of it again, it just gives off a terrible, lying, guilty image of himself because his claims were shot down.

He also supplied a pic...could be real. Maybe the cuffs claim was true and all else was an exaggeration or he's no better than Janet Arviso.

It just seemed to be a serious claim and just as soon as it was claimed, it was hushed on both sides.

Thoughts?
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Reply #65 posted 05/17/10 7:52am

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WetDream said:

What was the conclusion (or your own thoughts) on MJ's claims the police abused him physically upon booking him?
MJ claimed multiple things that also insinuated racism/discrimination but, then seemingly had them shot down by the Santa Police Dep. one by one.

Then, when you view MJ speaking of it again, it just gives off a terrible, lying, guilty image of himself because his claims were shot down.

He also supplied a pic...could be real. Maybe the cuffs claim was true and all else was an exaggeration or he's no better than Janet Arviso.

It just seemed to be a serious claim and just as soon as it was claimed, it was hushed on both sides.

Thoughts?


Who cares... that was along time ago, a different time and place.

I would believe that Janet Arvizo has got to be the worse.. What kind of mother would teach her children how to lie, in order to destroy another human being.
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Reply #66 posted 05/17/10 8:57am

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New Michael Jackson Movies: Thriller 3D & ‘Gone Too Soon’

Michael Jackson's 'Thriller' may be converted to 3D, while a documentary about the King of Pop's life is already being picked up by distributors worldwide.


If the concert film This Is It left you hungry for more Michael Jackson movies, and you’ve already been down to Walt Disney World for the return of Captain EO, you could be in luck. Two separate Michael Jackson movies are in the works, both of which may end up on the big screen if there’s enough interest in them.

Given the popularity of This Is It, there’s a good chance of that both Thriller 3D and Gone Too Soon will make it to theaters.

First, an oldie but a goodie: “Thriller” was the short film/music video that was directed by John Landis (An American Werewolf in London) and was originally released in theaters as a pre-feature exclusive to Disney’s re-release of Fantasia. According to CHUD, MJ’s estate wants to retrofit the 14-minute video as a digital 3D film.

At a recent event in London, Landis said he’s okay with the idea (despite not being a fan of the technology), but he’s not sure if it will go out to cinemas or just end up on a 3D Blu-ray. The video’s original theatrical release was merely to qualify for the Oscars, but with all the 3D movies coming out these days, and the continued fandom for MJ (who despite being dead just negotiated the biggest record deal of all time), “Thriller 3D” could easily make it into theaters.

One film that would make sense for an MJ double feature (if it were also filmed in 3D) is Gone Too Soon, a documentary that Variety reports was pieced together from 300 hours of footage by Ian Halperin, the author of the book Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson.

The 88-minute film so far has theatrical runs booked for Canada and France (opening June 25th, the anniversary of MJ’s death) and television rights sold to other territories. But there doesn’t appear to be plans for a U.S. release just yet. Halperin claims, “this is the film Michael and his fans deserve,” so hopefully the latter will get to see it soon.

Now, when do I get my desired 3D re-release of Moonwalker?

We’ll keep you updated on both Thriller 3D and Gone Too Soon as the news rolls in.

http://screenrant.com/mic...isc-49133/

New Jackson documentary coming 'Soon'
Halperin brings King of Pop's final days to bigscreen
By MICHAEL SCHNEIDER


The author behind "Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson" is tackling the King of Pop's last days for the bigscreen.
Author-filmmaker Ian Halperin is behind "Gone Too Soon," an 88-minute documentary about Jackson that is culled from 300 hours of footage shot inside the singer's camp.

Shine Intl., which holds global distribution rights to the doc, will unveil "Gone Too Soon" at next month's Mip TV confab in Cannes. Pic is set for a theatrical run in Canada and France, via Transit Medias, on June 25 -- the first anniversary of Jackson's death.

Halperin wrote "Unmasked," which hit No. 1 last year on the New York Times' bestsellers list, after spending five years investigating Jackson.

Footage in "Gone Too Soon" includes video and audio of Jackson shot before his death. It also includes interviews with Jackson's personal manager, chef, spiritual adviser, hairstylist, trainer, protective agent and attorney.

According to the filmmakers, Jackson family members were not involved but are aware of the film. Family attorney Brian Oxman is among the interviewees.

Despite its depiction of the more scandalous aspects of Jackson's life, Halperin called the movie "a balanced tribute to the King of Pop."

"This is the film Michael and his fans deserve," Halperin said.

Shine Intl. president Chris Grant said the doc would "eventually be known as a really important piece of the Michael Jackson saga."

"Ian's done an incredible job telling the story of what actually happened to Michael," Grant said. "We've teased it a bit and the reaction has been tremendous."

Halperin reported in December 2008 that Jackson was in weak health -- and was quoted in a celebrity mag at the time predicting that the pop star would be dead within six months.

Halperin's shingle and Objective Films are behind the doc, which will be distributed for TV in some territories and as a theatrical release in others. Halperin's credits include co-authoring two books about the death of Kurt Cobain, as well as the doc "His Highness Hollywood."

Halperin and Grant are producing "Gone Too Soon" along with Jarred Weisfeld and Sarah Girgis.

http://www.variety.com/ar...id=13&cs=1



Whoa now! That scuzzball Halperin is making his hater film still!chair I'm already part of several FB movements to boycott that damn film because he claims that MJ 's gay, and apparently "while not a pedophile, liked younger men" madevil People, boycott that film! The Jackson family were not even involved in the making of this film. Katherine herself said to fans not to see the film.
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Reply #67 posted 05/17/10 8:58am

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sigh at that ian halperin guy.

let him rust in peace
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Reply #68 posted 05/17/10 9:02am

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sag10 said:

WetDream said:

What was the conclusion (or your own thoughts) on MJ's claims the police abused him physically upon booking him?
MJ claimed multiple things that also insinuated racism/discrimination but, then seemingly had them shot down by the Santa Police Dep. one by one.

Then, when you view MJ speaking of it again, it just gives off a terrible, lying, guilty image of himself because his claims were shot down.

He also supplied a pic...could be real. Maybe the cuffs claim was true and all else was an exaggeration or he's no better than Janet Arviso.

It just seemed to be a serious claim and just as soon as it was claimed, it was hushed on both sides.

Thoughts?


Who cares... that was along time ago, a different time and place.

I would believe that Janet Arvizo has got to be the worse.. What kind of mother would teach her children how to lie, in order to destroy another human being.


Well, me, i asked.

Ain't no music at the moment so i ask about a very troubled moment in his even more troubled life....but, to be fair, i honestly don't care about most his personal life either....it's just a very odd moment that i have never seen concluded and even completely avoided by fans.
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Reply #69 posted 05/17/10 9:08am

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motownlover said:

sigh at that ian halperin guy.

let him rust in peace


Why sigh?

You haven't seen the film so you have no right to voice an opinion, those of you that are.

He could present a well made, well researched, credible documentary. Just because it doesn't avoid a more negative look, doesn't mean it's "an attack".

The film could back all that it is claiming up with evidence. Regardless of the authors previous work, you can't pre-judge something you know little about.

summing up such an attitude, you sound like this; "Its wrong and sick...but, i haven't seen it".
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Reply #70 posted 05/17/10 9:45am

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almost june
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Reply #71 posted 05/17/10 9:54am

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almost june
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Reply #72 posted 05/17/10 9:57am

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WetDream said:

motownlover said:

sigh at that ian halperin guy.

let him rust in peace


Why sigh?

You haven't seen the film so you have no right to voice an opinion, those of you that are.

He could present a well made, well researched, credible documentary. Just because it doesn't avoid a more negative look, doesn't mean it's "an attack".

The film could back all that it is claiming up with evidence. Regardless of the authors previous work, you can't pre-judge something you know little about.

summing up such an attitude, you sound like this; "Its wrong and sick...but, i haven't seen it".
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I tend to agree..

He appears to one of the many that want to make money off of Michael's very sad death.
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Reply #73 posted 05/17/10 11:16am

MOL

WetDream said:

sag10 said:



Who cares... that was along time ago, a different time and place.

I would believe that Janet Arvizo has got to be the worse.. What kind of mother would teach her children how to lie, in order to destroy another human being.


Well, me, i asked.

Ain't no music at the moment so i ask about a very troubled moment in his even more troubled life....but, to be fair, i honestly don't care about most his personal life either....it's just a very odd moment that i have never seen concluded and even completely avoided by fans.


Good point, but less drama, please! It is not necessarily avoided by fans or whoever. But it is, definitely, a pertinent question.

Obviously, even if Jackson had indeed been abused, do you really think the police would admit it?

Recently, in my country, a mother who killed her child was OBVIOUSLY tortured by the police (deservedly so though!), yet the police always denied it and still denies it to this day. They shot her claims one by one yet it's more than obvious that she was tortured. Since the police has no legal right to beat an accused person unless he/she beats the police first, do you REALLY think they would ever admit they beat the shit out of him/her?

Second; the Sheriff told the media this, some days before the veredict: "When Jackson is found guilty- and I can guarantee you he will- we are going to take him of there [the courtroom] so fast, he will be wishing hell instead."

This implies that the Sheriff (the guy who handcuffed Jackson) was on fire to make the guy's life a living hell, it seemed it was his utopy to beat the shit out of MJ so it would be no surprise if abuse indeed took place. And we all know how Sneddon and the Sherif were obsessed with ruining MJ's life (whether he was or not a child molester).

Yet, Wet, all we have now are conjectures. The pic was a strong indication that Jackson was abused but who knows, isn't it? Let's be imparcial (something the police of LA never was) and try giving both sides a chance.

Maybe Jackson lied, maybe the police was really abusive. I just don't think that, at that point, it made any sense to lie against the police even because the man's life could be, in a near future, in the police officer's hands.

I don't know you but damn (!)... since when are child molestation accusations even comparable to slight physical abuse? That's delusional. Anyway, I hope this answered some of your questions.

But we could start a healthy discussion on that matter. I'm also curious about it.
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Reply #74 posted 05/17/10 11:32am

MOL

WetDream said:

motownlover said:

sigh at that ian halperin guy.

let him rust in peace


Why sigh?

You haven't seen the film so you have no right to voice an opinion, those of you that are.

He could present a well made, well researched, credible documentary. Just because it doesn't avoid a more negative look, doesn't mean it's "an attack".

The film could back all that it is claiming up with evidence. Regardless of the authors previous work, you can't pre-judge something you know little about.

summing up such an attitude, you sound like this; "Its wrong and sick...but, i haven't seen it".
[Edited 5/17/10 9:09am]


Wet, calm down. The film will obviously be based on the book which was released almost a year ago. She/he hasn't seen the movie yet, but you tells you she/he didn't read the book in which the doc will be based on? It's pratically the same. It's like reading the script of the movie so, yes, it is fair to "attack" or "defend" the upcoming documentary even though it hasn't been broadcasted yet.

I do agree with your last sentence however, in this particular case, it is not valid (since the book in which the doc will be based on is already available).

Calm down! lol You're so eager to start fights with guy X and guy Y. I agree that some fans are overazealous (Prince and every other singer also have many), but there's no need to simply be dismissive.
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Reply #75 posted 05/17/10 12:48pm

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MOL, why are you telling me to calm down and claiming i'm dismissive? You cant hear my tone nor are there any explanation marks or anything indicating me not being calm.

I asked a question and explained why i asked. I have no intention for fights....childish arguing on the internet over a subject i'm only partially interested in these days...is a bit silly.

Seems that's what you want.

Anyway, your post still didn't deal with the most troubling parts. I.e. His shoulders were so badly hurt, he couldn't lift his arms that day of the interview yet on the day of the booking, he was smiling and waving to fans on his way out. He was in there but half an hour thus discrediting his other claim of being locked in the toilets for 45 minutes.

I mention it made him look bad/guilty because if it comes off as a lie, average Joe will think he's desperate and clinging at straws.

Just because what i ask doesn't reveal your lord in a positive light as such, doesn't mean that this person is attacking or anything of the sort.

I got no urge to criticise him today even though i could a lot.

Don't know why i explained that.

If you carry on with absurd talk, i just won't reply to you, maybe that will make you understand the fact i'm simply asking a question.
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Reply #76 posted 05/17/10 1:23pm

MOL

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MOL, why are you telling me to calm down and claiming i'm dismissive? You cant hear my tone nor are there any explanation marks or anything indicating me not being calm.

I asked a question and explained why i asked. I have no intention for fights....childish arguing on the internet over a subject i'm only partially interested in these days...is a bit silly.

Seems that's what you want.

Anyway, your post still didn't deal with the most troubling parts. I.e. His shoulders were so badly hurt, he couldn't lift his arms that day of the interview yet on the day of the booking, he was smiling and waving to fans on his way out. He was in there but half an hour thus discrediting his other claim of being locked in the toilets for 45 minutes.

I mention it made him look bad/guilty because if it comes off as a lie, average Joe will think he's desperate and clinging at straws.

Just because what i ask doesn't reveal your lord in a positive light as such, doesn't mean that this person is attacking or anything of the sort.

I got no urge to criticise him today even though i could a lot.

Don't know why i explained that.

If you carry on with absurd talk, i just won't reply to you, maybe that will make you understand the fact i'm simply asking a question.


Wet, you asked a question to which I've respectfully replied.

Jackson is not my lord or whatever. He's just an entertainer who I happen to appreciate just as much as I appreciate Prince.

By the way, what exactly does Jackson say in the interview you are referring to?

I got no urge to criticise him today even though i could a lot.


Fomer fan/admirer?
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http://www.telegraph.co.u...Opera.html

Andrew Lloyd Webber: 'Michael Jackson wanted to appear in Phantom of the Opera'

Michael Jackson was interested in starring in a film version of the Phantom stage musical, says Lord Lloyd Webber

The first person to call me to say Michael Jackson had died was my 17-year-old son. I had an awful feeling that one should almost have seen it coming. After the sadness came the disappointment that I was never going to see him again.

I first met Michael when he came to see Phantom of the Opera in New York when we'd just opened in 1988. He was clearly interested in the piece. He saw it several times and used to come backstage, often without the entourage that followed him around in later life.

The story got to him. I think he had a connection with the lonely, tortured musician. He found the idea of somebody working through music and having a girl as a muse very intriguing – and he loved that there was illusion in the show.

Michael became interested in playing The Phantom himself, in a movie version of the show. We talked about it a lot, but we'd only just opened and, at the time, I felt that it was too early for it to become a film. I felt his interest in Phantom was because he was interested in doing something theatrical himself.

He was a highly theatrical animal. I remember him saying to me that he'd seen Cats and how happy he was that dance was making a comeback in the theatre. He certainly talked about theatre a lot, and when he was last in London, he went to see Oliver!. Of course, he was a great showman himself, but he found the whole stagecraft of musicals extraordinary.

Seeing clips of Thriller on the news this week reminded me what an extraordinary dancer he was. He really brought dance and staging into the pop world, through his videos and concerts. Nobody before him had really done anything much like that. He was ahead of his time with all that he did.

I saw him a couple of times in concert. Thriller was probably the best stage event I've ever seen. From my musical-theatre perspective, I could see that he was bringing a completely new vision about dance to the stage. A tremendous amount of what he was doing then you see in musicals now.

Musically, Michael was also different to anyone before him. He was clever at taking pop hooks and using them in original ways, developing them theatrically. It's an influence that is now everywhere today. I remember listening to a Justin Timberlake album and hearing Michael's influence.

Young people still keep coming to his music because so many of his songs are classics. In the history of pop, Thriller will possibly stand out more than Sergeant Pepper because there were even more stand-alone hits on it. It's right up there with the all-time great albums.

Similarly, I would absolutely put him up there with the all-time greatest performers. I've seen most of the top rock acts – I saw Elvis several times – but with Michael's concerts, his showmanship was consummate. Very few rock singers have such quality.

Everybody was so looking forward to seeing what he would do when he came back to London. From what I was hearing, he was going to push the boundaries of what we'd seen in a rock arena much, much further.

The debts, all the court cases, and the trouble he got himself into, it was all so sad. But you can probably say already that his music has transcended all of that. Nothing sticks to him. In the end, the music will always survive.
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Did anyone see randy twitter?
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Jackson music to be studied in course.

The currents of black musical culture course through the song and dance of Michael Jackson.

Which is why the Center for Black Music Research (CBMR) – based at Columbia College Chicago – will present a major conference on his art, in various downtown Chicago locations, Sept. 23-25.

"Genius Without Borders: Michael Jackson" will present scholars, critics and Jackson associates discussing the art, life and times of the King of Pop. All events will be open to the public and most of them will be free. To date, cultural critic Greg Tate, black studies professor Mark Anthony Neale and scholar Daphne Brooks – among others – have been enlisted as guest speakers.

Why organize the event now, so soon after Jackson's death last June, at age 50?

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"I noticed immediately after his death last summer that there was a lot of uncritical celebration, which I think was great," says Monica Hairston, executive director of the CBMR.

"But I think that now, several months later, we're really ready to look at the legacy in a critical way and understand the artistic processes and the genius that was involved in creating this icon.

"We felt it was a good time to open up the opportunity for some serious scholarship to be started."

The event will build on the CBMR's much-discussed conference of last year, "Genius Without Borders: A Symposium in Honor of the Genius of Ray Charles." But the Jackson soiree will differ from the Charles event in at least one significant way – musicians will not be playing Jackson's songs (at the Charles symposium, vocalists and instrumentalists performed Brother Ray classics with the CBMR's New Black Music Repertory Ensemble).

"We realized that even though we had a really successful performance of Ray Charles' music … so many artists had kind of yoked onto his compositions, and (audiences) had an ear to hear them as standards," says Hairston.

"Whereas people want to hear the Michael Jackson songs as they are.

"They are unique, aural, studio-created works of art. And without those specific studio sounds, I don't think audiences want to hear them.

"I think that will change over time, but it's all still so new."

Scheduling for "Genius Without Borders: Michael Jackson" has yet to be finalized, but Hairston says that in addition to the already announced guests, individuals who worked with Jackson and knew him personally will also be on hand.

For details, contact the Center for Black Music Research at 312-369-7559.
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Reply #80 posted 05/17/10 4:20pm

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What was the conclusion (or your own thoughts) on MJ's claims the police abused him physically upon booking him?
MJ claimed multiple things that also insinuated racism/discrimination but, then seemingly had them shot down by the Santa Police Dep. one by one.

Then, when you view MJ speaking of it again, it just gives off a terrible, lying, guilty image of himself because his claims were shot down.

He also supplied a pic...could be real. Maybe the cuffs claim was true and all else was an exaggeration or he's no better than Janet Arviso.

It just seemed to be a serious claim and just as soon as it was claimed, it was hushed on both sides.

Thoughts?


Me personally, and this view may not be shared, was MJ was probably taunted and verbally abused and ridiculed. The cuffs when placed on may have been too tight and might have caused some bruising but I am not sure that he was physically beaten or abused to the point of those bruises. They were likely inflicted by perhaps being held to tight by offices but don't know to what extent anything went on.

The reason I think it was not played out was that his Lawyer didn't want to play a race card during the trial, so the whole police abuse of a black man angle didn't play out.

I don't think MJ was lying but then I do think things may have been presented to put him in the best light that perhaps weren't 100% truthful. I was happy though that it didn't progress as it ultimately wasn't important to the case.

Swa
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As for Halperin's Gone Too Soon - I am keeping an open mind. I read the biography and thought there was some insight there, but also thought that his most salacious claims were a bit shallow and not fully investigated like other parts, which made me think he couldn't prove certain things.

Like I said, I'm keeping an open mind and will see it when it is out, more to be informed of what is being presented and then to make my mind up on it then.

As for claims MJ was gay - honestly for me I don't really care if he was or wasn't. Do I think he was? No. But it wouldn't change my mind or my appreciation for him if he was gay, bi or straight. With regards to Dr Klein and the guy claiming he had a relationship with MJ - there really wasn't much proof there and to me it read more as a guy who perhaps took MJ saying he loved him and showing signs of affection and perhaps read into it more than was there. That's how it came across in what he said.

Swa
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Swa said:

As for Halperin's Gone Too Soon - I am keeping an open mind. I read the biography and thought there was some insight there, but also thought that his most salacious claims were a bit shallow and not fully investigated like other parts, which made me think he couldn't prove certain things.

Like I said, I'm keeping an open mind and will see it when it is out, more to be informed of what is being presented and then to make my mind up on it then.

As for claims MJ was gay - honestly for me I don't really care if he was or wasn't. Do I think he was? No. But it wouldn't change my mind or my appreciation for him if he was gay, bi or straight. With regards to Dr Klein and the guy claiming he had a relationship with MJ - there really wasn't much proof there and to me it read more as a guy who perhaps took MJ saying he loved him and showing signs of affection and perhaps read into it more than was there. That's how it came across in what he said.

Swa

and is now saying the interview was taken out of context lol
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Swa said:

Jackson music to be studied in course.

The currents of black musical culture course through the song and dance of Michael Jackson.

Which is why the Center for Black Music Research (CBMR) – based at Columbia College Chicago – will present a major conference on his art, in various downtown Chicago locations, Sept. 23-25.

"Genius Without Borders: Michael Jackson" will present scholars, critics and Jackson associates discussing the art, life and times of the King of Pop. All events will be open to the public and most of them will be free. To date, cultural critic Greg Tate, black studies professor Mark Anthony Neale and scholar Daphne Brooks – among others – have been enlisted as guest speakers.

Why organize the event now, so soon after Jackson's death last June, at age 50?

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"I noticed immediately after his death last summer that there was a lot of uncritical celebration, which I think was great," says Monica Hairston, executive director of the CBMR.

"But I think that now, several months later, we're really ready to look at the legacy in a critical way and understand the artistic processes and the genius that was involved in creating this icon.

"We felt it was a good time to open up the opportunity for some serious scholarship to be started."

The event will build on the CBMR's much-discussed conference of last year, "Genius Without Borders: A Symposium in Honor of the Genius of Ray Charles." But the Jackson soiree will differ from the Charles event in at least one significant way – musicians will not be playing Jackson's songs (at the Charles symposium, vocalists and instrumentalists performed Brother Ray classics with the CBMR's New Black Music Repertory Ensemble).

"We realized that even though we had a really successful performance of Ray Charles' music … so many artists had kind of yoked onto his compositions, and (audiences) had an ear to hear them as standards," says Hairston.

"Whereas people want to hear the Michael Jackson songs as they are.

"They are unique, aural, studio-created works of art. And without those specific studio sounds, I don't think audiences want to hear them.

"I think that will change over time, but it's all still so new."

Scheduling for "Genius Without Borders: Michael Jackson" has yet to be finalized, but Hairston says that in addition to the already announced guests, individuals who worked with Jackson and knew him personally will also be on hand.

For details, contact the Center for Black Music Research at 312-369-7559.

I'd love to sit on this

I hope we see more courses like this on Michael, Ray, Stevie, Prince, and others
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Reply #84 posted 05/17/10 5:25pm

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bboy87 said:

Swa said:

Jackson music to be studied in course.

The currents of black musical culture course through the song and dance of Michael Jackson.

Which is why the Center for Black Music Research (CBMR) – based at Columbia College Chicago – will present a major conference on his art, in various downtown Chicago locations, Sept. 23-25.

"Genius Without Borders: Michael Jackson" will present scholars, critics and Jackson associates discussing the art, life and times of the King of Pop. All events will be open to the public and most of them will be free. To date, cultural critic Greg Tate, black studies professor Mark Anthony Neale and scholar Daphne Brooks – among others – have been enlisted as guest speakers.

Why organize the event now, so soon after Jackson's death last June, at age 50?

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"I noticed immediately after his death last summer that there was a lot of uncritical celebration, which I think was great," says Monica Hairston, executive director of the CBMR.

"But I think that now, several months later, we're really ready to look at the legacy in a critical way and understand the artistic processes and the genius that was involved in creating this icon.

"We felt it was a good time to open up the opportunity for some serious scholarship to be started."

The event will build on the CBMR's much-discussed conference of last year, "Genius Without Borders: A Symposium in Honor of the Genius of Ray Charles." But the Jackson soiree will differ from the Charles event in at least one significant way – musicians will not be playing Jackson's songs (at the Charles symposium, vocalists and instrumentalists performed Brother Ray classics with the CBMR's New Black Music Repertory Ensemble).

"We realized that even though we had a really successful performance of Ray Charles' music … so many artists had kind of yoked onto his compositions, and (audiences) had an ear to hear them as standards," says Hairston.

"Whereas people want to hear the Michael Jackson songs as they are.

"They are unique, aural, studio-created works of art. And without those specific studio sounds, I don't think audiences want to hear them.

"I think that will change over time, but it's all still so new."

Scheduling for "Genius Without Borders: Michael Jackson" has yet to be finalized, but Hairston says that in addition to the already announced guests, individuals who worked with Jackson and knew him personally will also be on hand.

For details, contact the Center for Black Music Research at 312-369-7559.

I'd love to sit on this

I hope we see more courses like this on Michael, Ray, Stevie, Prince, and others


If they offered courses like that around here, I wouldn't leave school. razz lol
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Reply #85 posted 05/17/10 5:31pm

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babybugz said:

Did anyone see randy twitter?


Nope. What did he say?
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Reply #86 posted 05/17/10 7:08pm

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SherryJackson said:

bboy87 said:


I'd love to sit on this

I hope we see more courses like this on Michael, Ray, Stevie, Prince, and others


If they offered courses like that around here, I wouldn't leave school. razz lol

exams would only take 10 minutes to do lol
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Reply #87 posted 05/17/10 7:38pm

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bboy87 said:

SherryJackson said:



If they offered courses like that around here, I wouldn't leave school. razz lol

exams would only take 10 minutes to do lol



Oh, man! I want in now!! We'd be honour roll students cool
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Reply #88 posted 05/17/10 10:35pm

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yeah michael jackson should be my career, someone said I should totally be teaching about him or something haha

anyways I just read the halperin thing and started crying at how people still won't leave him alone, A MOVIE??? sad Hasn't he gone through enough? He can't even defend himself and the man has kids!
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May 08th, 2010: Japan: Paper Sleeve Reissue CD's (Limited Edition)




Michael Jackson's cardboard sleeve (mini LP) reissues will be re-released in answer to requests from fans all over the world.

The eleven-album Michael Jackson and The Jacksons cardboard sleeve (mini LP) reissue series feature the following albums: Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad, Dangerous, HIStory, The Jacksons, Goin' Places, Destiny, Triumph, The Jacksons Live, and Victory.

And remarkably, "Invincible," which was originally released in 2001 as Michael Jackson's last original album, is also part of the carboard sleeve (mini LP) reissue series for the first time. The sleeve artwork replicates the sleeve design of the US first pressing edition.

Also, MJ's priced-down reissues will be released and almost all of them feature the digital remastering (2001 - 2010).

The eleven-album Michael Jackson and The Jacksons cardboard sleeve (mini LP) reissue series feature the following albums: Off The Wall, Thriller, BAD, Dangerous, HIStory, Invicible, Essential Jacksons, The Jacksons, Goin' Places, Destiny, Triumph, The Jacksons Live, Victory, and 2300 Jackson Street.

These reissues are avaiable for a limited time only

PREORDER AT CD JAPAN
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/...d&media=CD





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