laurarichardson said:

I'm a huge fan but have accepted she won't though it is unfair and all. I also think her focusing on movies and having the occasional single is a great decision though I loved Discipline

laurarichardson said:

I'm 150% positive Prince will never sell a large amount of CDs ever again.
[Edited 5/11/10 12:09pm]

trueiopian said:

I'd bet he could do a movie soundtrack or 2 and sell big.

Graycap23 said:

trueiopian said:

This is a known fact since the 90's. So really Prince fans have no business coming for Janet as far as sales go.

trueiopian said:

Hummm.....I recall folks saying that Prince's career was over 15 years ago.

It doesn't appear he has to worry about record sales, but if he ever stops selling records he could be a great porn star. Makes John Holmes look like Peter Pan, aka MJ. lol

errant said:

13 years of "hits" maybe but he's been around longer than that.

Graycap23 said:

They were right.

Musicology only scanned 827,000 copies. The rest of it was mandatorily "sold" in concert.

Prince has not had a studio album that scanned over a million copies since The Sympol album in 1992. His various compilations have fared much better. His various compilations have have scanned a collective 5.6 million, and far outsold his new releases which means people are more interested in his 80s work.

In comparison,

Madonna since 1992:
1994- Bedtime Stories: 2.1 mil
1996- Evita- 2 mil
1998- Ray of Light- 3.8 mil
2000- Music- 3 mil
2005- Confessions- 1.7 mil

Prince lags far behind. He's the real "flop" among the group of 80s icons, regardless of muscail talent. Don't get it twisted about his commercial success. He's essentially been irrelivant since 1993. He's not on the level people here like to pretend he's on. Purple Rain makes up over 20% of his career sales. For someone with 25 studio CDs and 5 major compilation sets, thats a very heavy load for one CD to have.
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Milty said:

Fine, we'll be fair.

2. Mariah Carey (18) 18 yrs, 38 YO
3. Elvis Presley (17) 13 yrs, 34 YO
4. Michael Jackson (13) 23 yrs, 37 YO
5. Madonna (12) (tie) 15 yrs, 42 YO
7. Whitney Houston (11) 10 yrs, 32 YO
8. Janet Jackson (10) (tie) 15 yrs, 34 YO
8. Stevie Wonder (10) (tie) 22 yrs, 36 YO
10. Elton John (9) (tie) 24 yrs, 50 YO
10. Usher (9) (tie) 13 yrs, 31 YO

It would appear that Usher has a couple more years in him, and a couple more #1 songs to score. Shitney is an outlier, she was too busy smokin crack, thats why her carurr was cut short. AJust about everyone had their last #1 song in their mid 30s. Its very unlikely OMG is Usher's last #1. He'll clearly end up tieing with either Janet or Shitney. Eat ur heart out.

Shut up and how many #1's does Prince have anyway? People on here give him way too much. Ch...

When Doves Cry (1984)
Lets Go Crazy (1984)
Kiss (1986)
Batdance (1989)
Cream (1991)

5 in total.

sleepyq said:

I agree. That's why I find it hysterical that people on here go on and on about Janet flopping when we're on a Prince site
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Woww

trueiopian said:

Here are 2 of the many flaws with your arguments

1) Every artist mentioned on this thread would not hesitate to name Prince as a major influence and reason for their existence in the music industry. Janet for example made her name by ripping off the Minneapolis sound. A sound that Prince helped create. While she was doing that, Prince had already purposefully moved away from the sound. A sound that back then assured you a hit . Everybody in 85' 86' including Janet was copping Princes sound. If Prince cared primarily about 'hits' he would have dropped Purple Rain II . Instead, he left that work to the likes of Janet and other mid to late 80's hacks . Point: A guy who cares about being number one on the charts does not make Around the World in a Day. When the guy needed money to pay the bills, he dropped a hit. Otherwise, he's a musician first. Something of the kind that punks like Usher could only hope to come back as in the next life.

2) He's essentially been irrelivant since 1993. He's not on the level people here like to pretend he's on.

Then why is it that every time a list off most influential artists of the past 20 or so years is compiled, Prince is always at the top. No matter what the magazine, organization, etc. Why is it that Prince has been on the cover of Guitar, Keyboard, Drum, Bass, and Synth magazines while your 'artists' have never appeared on any . If he is so irrelevant , why was he asked to play the Super Bowl, inducted into the R &R Hall of Fame, and consistently at the top of yearly concert revenue lists whenever he decides to tour . . . no matter how long the gap?

midiscover said:

Oh and one more thing :


TODAYS MATH LESSON - JANET minus JIMMY and TERRY = LATOYA


CLASS DISMISSED.

Well, someone's bothered.

Kiii!! Yes!! Beat on that wall, bothered Betty!

sleepyq said:

Why does everyone have to justify one artist by comparing them to another?
Prince and Usher have absolutely zero in common.
Usher is a singer. Prince is a musician. They are two entriely different types of artist.
If you must compare artists then compare singers to singers and musicians to other musicians.
The only thing Usher probably knows about guitar is that there's occasionally one within a ten foot radius of him.

When someone has to bring up the man we dedicated this board to and compare him with Usher, then you're not helping Usher's case at all. Just saying.

Timmy84 said:

WTF?

I'm not even the one that brought up Prince, dat was someone else. Ppl asked meqwuestions about Prince's and Usher sales and chart histories and I answered and provided the #s along with some analysis

STOP tryna make it out like i said things i didnt.

Graycap23 said:

U think Prince could sell big with a movie soundtrack in the future.

I'm telling u he cannot, and will not. He hasn't sold "big" since 1991. The delusion about his commercial success on this board is staggering.

Layzie said:

He's so delusional.

midiscover said:

Wait, He is saying to himself that he is one of a kind

midiscover said:

He should stop. He's got a long way to go if he thinks he's an "icon". Yeah icons are ones who obviously take bits and pieces of MJ, Bobby Brown and R. Kelly and then make it OBVIOUS that they're always gonna be compared to those guys no matter what they do.

Timmy84 said:

I cringed when I read that statement timmy, saying to himself that he is one of a kind

people will say that to you if you were truly great Blusher, No need to call yourself that.
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seeingvoices12 said:

Most artists nowadays seem more bold when they say that. Least when someone like Marvin or Aretha said it, it was accurate.

chrisslope9 said:

And when did i mention influence or talent? when did i menation "intent?" I dont care what Prince wanted or didn't want, fact is, he's been commercially irreelivant since 1993. Read the topic- this thread is about charts.I spoke about success, not talent, so stop twistin my words. When we wanna talk about commercial success, the charts dont lie. Prince hasn't done anything big on the charts since 1992. His last top 10 hit was in 1994. He only has one top 10 R&B hit since. Hardly setting the charts afire. Musicology was hailed as this huge comeback, when if fact, 10% of it was based on real sales, the rest was hype and media ass-kissing. Muscilogy, the huge comeback, scanned 150k less than Janet's big flop Damita Jo and only 150k more than 20 YO and American Life. Muscology didn't sell half of what Invincible sold. Who's the real flop?


Wut is it ur missing here? Ur points r useless. He's a legend, icon and huge influence, did i ever dispute that? I said his commercial success for the past 18 years has been downright embarassing. And what about the superbowl? Haven't u noticed, its been all old ppl since the Janet fiaso? Paul McCartney? The Whos? Legends, yes. But when's the last time these people had a hit? How much did their last studio albums sell? As for touring, another old people thing. Lionel Ritchie sells more conert tickets than Rihanna. Madonna's tour outgrossed Beyonce's and Britney's- combined. The concert game is totally different from the charts game. Selling lots of tickets doesn't make u relevant on the charts. Thsoe r 2 different things.

trueiopian said:

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As long as he stays independent he will not but he sure gets to keep a lot of the money. Much more than Usher or Janet will ever see from CD sales.