sleepyq said: Vanilli said: Usher, Michael Jackson isn't a musical genre. 3 decades of ripping off a real legend shouldn't count for much, but apparently in this day and age it does. Usher is NOT an MJ clone. He has way more sex appeal, is way less pop/rock, more street styled, and doesn't lipsynch in concert. Whomever he is inspired by, Usher is his own artist, he has all the love and respect for MJ, and has given him all the credit and praise in the world. Why does it make u mad that he is so successful? MJ did his James Brown impersonations, Usher can do whateva da fuck he wants, so please STFU and move on wit ur life. Usher, pretty much, ripped Bobby Brown's style and mixed in a bit of MJ. Especially early in his career. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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sleepyq said: babybugz said: No that's not that song grew on me but .... Fine. Best single. Wuts ur favorite track on the record? I'm obsessed with the horns on She Don't Know. Makes me wanna do some clap-dance thing. There goes my baby is decent. | |
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Confessions was weak. I don't care about its chart success.
1. 8701 2. My Way 3. Raymond vs. Raymond 4. Confessions 5. Here I Stand 6. Usher Anyway, congrats Usher. This is no small feat. | |
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daPrettyman said: sleepyq said: Usher is NOT an MJ clone. He has way more sex appeal, is way less pop/rock, more street styled, and doesn't lipsynch in concert. Whomever he is inspired by, Usher is his own artist, he has all the love and respect for MJ, and has given him all the credit and praise in the world. Why does it make u mad that he is so successful? MJ did his James Brown impersonations, Usher can do whateva da fuck he wants, so please STFU and move on wit ur life. Usher, pretty much, ripped Bobby Brown's style and mixed in a bit of MJ. Especially early in his career. Pretty much. But he did it better than Bobby Houston. Better singer, better looking, better material, more successful. | |
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musicjunky318 said: Confessions was weak. I don't care about its chart success.
1. 8701 2. My Way 3. Raymond vs. Raymond 4. Confessions 5. Here I Stand 6. Usher Anyway, congrats Usher. This is no small feat. Great list. | |
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babybugz said: sleepyq said: Fine. Best single. Wuts ur favorite track on the record? I'm obsessed with the horns on She Don't Know. Makes me wanna do some clap-dance thing. There goes my baby is decent. That song... | |
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musicjunky318 said: Confessions was weak. I don't care about its chart success.
1. 8701 2. My Way 3. Confessions 4. Raymond vs. Raymond 5. Here I Stand 6. Usher Anyway, congrats Usher. This is no small feat. Fixed it for you I'm sorry I can't put raymond vs raymond over confessions no matter how overhyped confessions was. Confessions was not a bad album though but yeah. [Edited 5/6/10 16:52pm] | |
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sleepyq said: babybugz said: There goes my baby is decent. That song... LOL you can yawn all you want even as a usher stan I sure has hell know lil freak is not the best track on there. It's one of the listenable ones with there goes my baby , hey daddy , making love and maybe mars vs venus. | |
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He's actually got a lot more talent than most other urban acts. Lets face it Usher can sing, dance and even rap if he wants too. His music appeals to the whole spectrum of dance, pop, soul, R and B and hip hop, and its not too stupid in its content. Even me a critic of most modern music, will admit the brother has talent, plus hes good looking which will drive all the girls and a few guys crazy as well. In an essence hes the whole package. I love the songs, U remind me, Yeah, Nice and Slow and Love in this club. I haven't heard OMG yet but I want too. Usher rocks So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time | |
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Huggiebear said: He's actually got a lot more talent than most other urban acts. Lets face it Usher can sing, dance and even rap if he wants too. His music appeals to the whole spectrum of dance, pop, soul, R and B and hip hop, and its not too stupid in its content. Even me a critic of most modern music, will admit the brother has talent, plus hes good looking which will drive all the girls and a few guys crazy as well. In an essence hes the whole package. I love the songs, U remind me, Yeah, Nice and Slow and Love in this club. I haven't heard OMG yet but I want too. Usher rocks
----- " hes good looking " That is a matter of opinion. I think he is unattractive and I don't know anyone who thinks he is good looking. Even my teen neice and her friends think he is unattractive. I don't think he is a great dancer,singer, or rapper and he live performances are nothing special. I never saw this guy has having starpower so much props to him for hanging around has long as he has. | |
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hmmmmm, congrats on the accomplishment, but with the politics of a major label behind Usher, such feats are not totally genuine..and someone say why is he compared to female artists, well... LOL Music Royalty in Motion | |
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It will be a sad day when Beyonce, Rhianna and Usher overtake Stevie, Janet, Michael, Madonna and Whitney in having the most billboard #1s. | |
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13 years isn't 3 decades. can fans and publicists stop with these bullshit accolades? we're just making shit up out of thin air with this "3 decades of #1's" and "first to have a #1 in the 90's, 00's, 10's"... it's not even just this thread. i see this bullshit hype in press releases all the time.
dud's had a little over a decade of success and all of a sudden it's 3. did we forget how to count to 10, people? | |
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@sleepyq Usher is a horrible artist with just a bunch of mediocre songs. His music has no depth whatsoever, no depth. He has one of the most boring personalities ever.
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PurpleColossus said: @sleepyq Usher is a horrible artist with just a bunch of mediocre songs. His music has no depth whatsoever, no depth. He has one of the most boring personalities ever.
... thanks 4 sharin ur opinion. | |
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Huggiebear said: He's actually got a lot more talent than most other urban acts. Lets face it Usher can sing, dance and even rap if he wants too. His music appeals to the whole spectrum of dance, pop, soul, R and B and hip hop, and its not too stupid in its content. Even me a critic of most modern music, will admit the brother has talent, plus hes good looking which will drive all the girls and a few guys crazy as well. In an essence hes the whole package. I love the songs, U remind me, Yeah, Nice and Slow and Love in this club. I haven't heard OMG yet but I want too. Usher rocks
Great post. Although, I would NOT suggest checking out OMG. I hate the song. My favorite right now is: [Edited 5/8/10 16:49pm] | |
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errant said: 13 years isn't 3 decades. can fans and publicists stop with these bullshit accolades? we're just making shit up out of thin air with this "3 decades of #1's" and "first to have a #1 in the 90's, 00's, 10's"... it's not even just this thread. i see this bullshit hype in press releases all the time.
dud's had a little over a decade of success and all of a sudden it's 3. did we forget how to count to 10, people? Usher himself is only 31. If u were under the imporession that I meant Usher had enjoyed "30 years of success," then I apologize. Only 9 people in billboard history (since the 1955) have more #1 songs than Usher. Its a big deal. | |
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He's not on that list because he makes good music, him being on that list is simply a reflection of how the quality of music (in general) has been going down in recent times. [Edited 5/8/10 17:11pm] | |
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BlaqueKnight said: sexyfunkystrange said: No offence, he's got loads of great standard talent,..but no way on earth does USHER belong in such an esteemed list in any way shape or form! This must be one of the signs of the apocolypse! I don't know if you've seen Usher live but Usher is a better performer than Whitney, Madonna and Mariah combined. I said PERFORMER, NOT SINGER. His career has been singles-based and this chart is just a numbers reflection. You can't deny dude of his chart success. I agree that in some ways he's not "exceptional" but the same can be said for Madonna as a singer, and Mariah and Whitney as dancers. They each have their own niche. In my book, Usher failed to be as good as he could have potentially been by not focusing on originality enough, but this list is not about that. Its about chart success, which means people buy Usher CDs. Given that understanding, Usher is right where he should be. [Edited 5/6/10 13:57pm] Usher is in great company with Michael & Madonna as THE only artists to have a #1 hit on the Hot 100 Singles Charts (USA) within 3 different decades. THIS^ is something Elvis, The Beatles, The Bee Gees, & Prince NEVER done. | |
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errant said: 13 years isn't 3 decades. can fans and publicists stop with these bullshit accolades? we're just making shit up out of thin air with this "3 decades of #1's" and "first to have a #1 in the 90's, 00's, 10's"... it's not even just this thread. i see this bullshit hype in press releases all the time.
dud's had a little over a decade of success and all of a sudden it's 3. did we forget how to count to 10, people? Billboard means scoring a #1 hit in 3 different decades. What don't you understand? They aren't saying he's necessarily been out for 30 years, this specific feat doesn't go hand in hand with that. Beyonce & Britney could and probably will match this in the near future as well. And Usher's been out since 94. | |
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TonyVanDam said: BlaqueKnight said: I don't know if you've seen Usher live but Usher is a better performer than Whitney, Madonna and Mariah combined. I said PERFORMER, NOT SINGER. His career has been singles-based and this chart is just a numbers reflection. You can't deny dude of his chart success. I agree that in some ways he's not "exceptional" but the same can be said for Madonna as a singer, and Mariah and Whitney as dancers. They each have their own niche. In my book, Usher failed to be as good as he could have potentially been by not focusing on originality enough, but this list is not about that. Its about chart success, which means people buy Usher CDs. Given that understanding, Usher is right where he should be. [Edited 5/6/10 13:57pm] Usher is in great company with Michael & Madonna as THE only artists to have a #1 hit on the Hot 100 Singles Charts (USA) within 3 different decades. THIS^ is something Elvis, The Beatles, The Bee Gees, & Prince NEVER done. ----- I wish some of you would stop including P in these types of catogories. Do any of you think "Head" or "Sister" would have been number one songs? Are any of the dozens of raunchy ass songs that P recorded? P has sold over 40 million cds according to Billboard and that is not a small amount of music to have moved over the last 30 years. I seriously doubt if Usher is ever goning to pull that off. | |
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musicjunky318 said: errant said: 13 years isn't 3 decades. can fans and publicists stop with these bullshit accolades? we're just making shit up out of thin air with this "3 decades of #1's" and "first to have a #1 in the 90's, 00's, 10's"... it's not even just this thread. i see this bullshit hype in press releases all the time.
dud's had a little over a decade of success and all of a sudden it's 3. did we forget how to count to 10, people? Billboard means scoring a #1 hit in 3 different decades. What don't you understand? They aren't saying he's necessarily been out for 30 years, this specific feat doesn't go hand in hand with that. Beyonce & Britney could and probably will match this in the near future as well. And Usher's been out since 94. I know what they meant. It means nothing. If he racks up #1 hits for an ACTUAL three decades, that's impressive. a 13 year career isn't that special. | |
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Janet has number ones in 3 different decades too | |
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laurarichardson said: TonyVanDam said: Usher is in great company with Michael & Madonna as THE only artists to have a #1 hit on the Hot 100 Singles Charts (USA) within 3 different decades. THIS^ is something Elvis, The Beatles, The Bee Gees, & Prince NEVER done. ----- I wish some of you would stop including P in these types of catogories. Do any of you think "Head" or "Sister" would have been number one songs? Are any of the dozens of raunchy ass songs that P recorded? P has sold over 40 million cds according to Billboard and that is not a small amount of music to have moved over the last 30 years. I seriously doubt if Usher is ever goning to pull that off. Usher sold 45 million albums worldwide which is well over Prince's amount. | |
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I remembered Usher's first song in 1993. "Like a Mack", he was what Beaver is now. A 15-year-old who thought he was so hot with the ladies. Then he put out that album a year later or whatever it was, '94 or '95 not sure, with Puffy looking over it, and it bombed, I think.
First time I played My Way, I remember thinking "he's the next Bobby Brown". That was the only time I actually enjoyed him. "U Make Me Wanna" was one of the SONGS of 1997, I still remember trying to do the moves on the video. Then after what was like a year of Usher, he disappeared again after three hit singles. When he reappeared, LaFace had to readjust because the expected follow-up leaked and that "Pop Your Collar" mess was one of the worst things I ever heard. 8701 was full of MJ leftovers from Invincible that MJ didn't wanna record. He just started to become a nuisance so I lost interest. You couldn't escape him in 2004 but the album I burned it and only listened to it twice before putting it in the trashcan. My cousin, who's six months older than me, liked it though. He likes Usher's latest. I don't, but congrats I guess lol | |
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laurarichardson said: TonyVanDam said: Usher is in great company with Michael & Madonna as THE only artists to have a #1 hit on the Hot 100 Singles Charts (USA) within 3 different decades. THIS^ is something Elvis, The Beatles, The Bee Gees, & Prince NEVER done. ----- I wish some of you would stop including P in these types of catogories. Do any of you think "Head" or "Sister" would have been number one songs? Are any of the dozens of raunchy ass songs that P recorded? P has sold over 40 million cds according to Billboard and that is not a small amount of music to have moved over the last 30 years. I seriously doubt if Usher is ever goning to pull that off. Excuse you, but I'm only stating the facts about Usher's success. He did something that Prince NEVER did. THAT is a fair statement. Therefore, don't you dare attack me like we're in Prince:Music & More. THIS is Music:Non-Prince, and all mentions of Prince's shortcomings are fair game in the threads of THIS forum. | |
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errant said: musicjunky318 said: Billboard means scoring a #1 hit in 3 different decades. What don't you understand? They aren't saying he's necessarily been out for 30 years, this specific feat doesn't go hand in hand with that. Beyonce & Britney could and probably will match this in the near future as well. And Usher's been out since 94. I know what they meant. It means nothing. If he racks up #1 hits for an ACTUAL three decades, that's impressive. a 13 year career isn't that special. Well of course a 30 year career would be more impressive. Nevertheless, it is notable considering only 5 people before him were able to do it. Elton John Michael Jackson Janet Jackson Madonna Stevie Wonder If it was nothing more acts would have been able to accomplish it. | |
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Timmy84 said: I remembered Usher's first song in 1993. "Like a Mack", he was what Beaver is now. A 15-year-old who thought he was so hot with the ladies. Then he put out that album a year later or whatever it was, '94 or '95 not sure, with Puffy looking over it, and it bombed, I think.
First time I played My Way, I remember thinking "he's the next Bobby Brown". That was the only time I actually enjoyed him. "U Make Me Wanna" was one of the SONGS of 1997, I still remember trying to do the moves on the video. Then after what was like a year of Usher, he disappeared again after three hit singles. When he reappeared, LaFace had to readjust because the expected follow-up leaked and that "Pop Your Collar" mess was one of the worst things I ever heard. 8701 was full of MJ leftovers from Invincible that MJ didn't wanna record. He just started to become a nuisance so I lost interest. You couldn't escape him in 2004 but the album I burned it and only listened to it twice before putting it in the trashcan. My cousin, who's six months older than me, liked it though. He likes Usher's latest. I don't, but congrats I guess lol I remember when that "...mack" song came out as well. Wasn't it like a single on a movie sndtk or something? I really can't remember because the song sucked. He was trying to diss Tevin and shit. And then came the album...wish I could remember the lead single...but the song Devante produced was kinda cool if not slightly outdated already. Then a few short years Usher was enjoying huge success and I was like Why? And I've been ever since. But congrats anyway, Usher. You're doing your thing and people seem to dig it. Don't know why, though.. I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! | |
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Adisa said: Timmy84 said: I remembered Usher's first song in 1993. "Like a Mack", he was what Beaver is now. A 15-year-old who thought he was so hot with the ladies. Then he put out that album a year later or whatever it was, '94 or '95 not sure, with Puffy looking over it, and it bombed, I think.
First time I played My Way, I remember thinking "he's the next Bobby Brown". That was the only time I actually enjoyed him. "U Make Me Wanna" was one of the SONGS of 1997, I still remember trying to do the moves on the video. Then after what was like a year of Usher, he disappeared again after three hit singles. When he reappeared, LaFace had to readjust because the expected follow-up leaked and that "Pop Your Collar" mess was one of the worst things I ever heard. 8701 was full of MJ leftovers from Invincible that MJ didn't wanna record. He just started to become a nuisance so I lost interest. You couldn't escape him in 2004 but the album I burned it and only listened to it twice before putting it in the trashcan. My cousin, who's six months older than me, liked it though. He likes Usher's latest. I don't, but congrats I guess lol I remember when that "...mack" song came out as well. Wasn't it like a single on a movie sndtk or something? I really can't remember because the song sucked. He was trying to diss Tevin and shit. And then came the album...wish I could remember the lead single...but the song Devante produced was kinda cool if not slightly outdated already. Then a few short years Usher was enjoying huge success and I was like Why? And I've been ever since. But congrats anyway, Usher. You're doing your thing and people seem to dig it. Don't know why, though.. That was for the "Poetic Justice" soundtrack. I don't remember besides from "Again" anyone who was not Janet not having a hit with any of their songs. I don't even think 2Pac recorded a song for that soundtrack. I think the first album's leading single was "Every Time I Think of You" or something, I think Craig Mack was the guest rapper on that song. Not sure... | |
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