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PrintableMarrk said: Sorry to go off track but does anyone think a deceased MJ can score further hits on Billboard?
Yeah, you've heard of the endless vaulted music, right? Look at Tupac. | |
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Though I think Usher is really overrated this is a huge accomplishment!  He's up their with the legends. | |
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OMG!!
that song sucks....  | |
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Cinnie said: TonyVanDam said: .....which also means that it should be very easy for one of us to FINALLY have a #1 hit. Right? Well I don't know about that but it shouldn't be used to start comparing catalogs Especially considering Mr. Purple Rain. Really? With comparing him to Usher (or even MJ), some are just further making Mr. Raymond obscure on the ORG. Think about it.  All the topics here go off topic for a few pages BECAUSE people INSIST on putting in their two cents and a half. No that's not how we roll, son. If you roll like that, then I'm rolling to the other thread. 
Anyway, congrats again Usher. 
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sleepyq said: laurarichardson said: ----- I wish some of you would stop including P in these types of catogories. Do any of you think "Head" or "Sister" would have been number one songs? Are any of the dozens of raunchy ass songs that P recorded? P has sold over 40 million cds according to Billboard and that is not a small amount of music to have moved over the last 30 years. I seriously doubt if Usher is ever goning to pull that off. Prince has released like 25 studio CDs and then compilations which have shifted like 8 million combined. Usher has released only 6, with no comp sets and halfway through, the market collapsed. If the market was in good shape today, Usher would easily surpass Prince's career sales in the next decade. But with everyone stealing everything, nobody is shifting albums anymore. His new album would be a smashing success if it shifts 2 million. The days of 13 mil ala Purple Rain r OVA. All time Billboard Hot 100: #16- prince #21- Usher Usher's single placings on BB100: #1 OMG #24 Hey Daddy #40 Lil Freak #66 There Goes My Baby He currently has over 185 million audience impressions with those songs. Usher is still cranking out hits and is easily the mosy (over)played male artist on radio today. Its only a matter of time. [Edited 5/8/10 18:19pm] ----- It must be hard going thru life with poor reading skills. Of course Ushers has had more number ones than Prince. Once again lack of radio airplay for more than half of P's catalogue back in the day would account for that. As far as Usher surpassing Prince in the number of CDs sold I find it hard to believe that Usher will every sell 40 million cds overall because his carreer is on a downward shift in his early 30s and I down see him as having the staying power to make it another 10 or 20 years. "Prince has released like 25 studio CDs and then compilations which have shifted like 8 million combined." I do not even know what your talking about. According to RIAA P has sold about 40 million CDs. | |
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Congrats to Usher. I saw him in concert at Essence one year and he was pretty good. As far as singles go, I'll take "Call Me a Mack" and "Can U Get Wit It" over anything he's doing nowadays. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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laurarichardson said: It must be hard going thru life with poor reading skills.
You always say this to other orgers.  Maybe you're the one not making her points clearly. | |
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Let's keep it real.
It's a 12 year 3 month span between the first number one and the most recent. It's a built up excuse for press on a trivial issue. He's in a 3 way tie for the tenth spot and since he showed up last that makes him #12. When  go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all  up in the house but when log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming! | |
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HonestMan13 said: It's a 12 year 3 month span between the first number one and the most recent.
For real. | |
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HonestMan13 said: Let's keep it real.
It's a 12 year 3 month span between the first number one and the most recent. It's a built up excuse for press on a trivial issue. He's in a 3 way tie for the tenth spot and since he showed up last that makes him #12. 
I like the way you put that there.  | |
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90s and 00s presence aside, I like how we're already counting 2010 as a "third decade" | |
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Yeah, but how many CDs has Prince sold since 2000, that don't include giveaways and book tie ins. Or in fact full priced CD's, most of the time you can get his shit on discount here.
Anyway, it will be a lot less than Usher, how many copies did Confessions and 8701 sell? So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time | |
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sleepyq said: On the Billboard Hot 100:
Nice & Slow- Febuary 14, 1998 (2 weeks) U Remind Me- July 7, 2001 (4 weeks) U Got It Bad- December 15, 2001 (6 weeks) Yeah!- Febuary 24, 2004 (12 weeks) Burn- May 22, 2004 (7 weeks) Confessions Part II- July 24, 2004 (2 weeks) My Boo- October 30, 2004 (6 weeks) Love in This Club- March 15, 2008 (3 weeks) OMG- May 15, 2010 (1 week) All Time List: 1. The Beatles (20) 2. Mariah Carey (18) 3. Elvis Presley (17) (Pre-Hot 100 charts and Hot 100) 4. Michael Jackson (13) 5. Madonna (12) (tie) 5. The Supremes (12) (tie) 7. Whitney Houston (11) 8. Janet Jackson (10) (tie) 8. Stevie Wonder (10) (tie) 10. Bee Gees (9) (tie) 10. Elton John (9) (tie) 10. Usher (9) (tie) At 31 years old, Usher is by far the youngest artist to make the all time list of Billboard chart history. He is also the 1st artist to have a #1 song in the 90s, 00s, and 10s, marking 3 decades of chart toppers. He has now spent 43 weeks at the number one spot making him the artist with the 4th longest reign at the top spot. His album Raymond v Raymond is also his 5th consecutive album to spun a #1 single on the main chart. Congratulations to Usher!       He had 1 number one in 98 at the end of the decade. He had 7 number ones between 2000 - 2009 for that decade. He's had 1 number one in 2010 for that decade. Mind you 2010 in the beginning of the decade and far from over. They're making it sound like his hits have spanned 30 years when it's more like spanning 12 years with 5 years of actual number one hits tossed about. The accolade isn't very well deserved. It's hype for the sake of hype. When go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all up in the house but when log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming! | |
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The only real advantage Usher has is that he hooks up with whatever hot producer is on the scene and if the producer's hot and Usher has an image, that's how it works. Usher shouldn't even be compared to the ones who got number-ones and had some classic albums on their belt anyway.
Compared to anyone else NOW yes he's one of the best in what they consider to be "R&B" now. It's unfair to even compare him to any legend. We'll see what happens ten years down the line. And no need to compare him to the Purple One. Y'all lucky some fam didn't put this at the major Prince board, otherwise, there would be fire and brimstone in this bitch. Believe that! | |
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sleepyq said: On the Billboard Hot 100:
Nice & Slow- Febuary 14, 1998 (2 weeks) U Remind Me- July 7, 2001 (4 weeks) U Got It Bad- December 15, 2001 (6 weeks) Yeah!- Febuary 24, 2004 (12 weeks) Burn- May 22, 2004 (7 weeks) Confessions Part II- July 24, 2004 (2 weeks) My Boo- October 30, 2004 (6 weeks) Love in This Club- March 15, 2008 (3 weeks) OMG- May 15, 2010 (1 week) All Time List: 1. The Beatles (20) 2. Mariah Carey (18) 3. Elvis Presley (17) (Pre-Hot 100 charts and Hot 100) 4. Michael Jackson (13) 5. Madonna (12) (tie) 5. The Supremes (12) (tie) 7. Whitney Houston (11) 8. Janet Jackson (10) (tie) 8. Stevie Wonder (10) (tie) 10. Bee Gees (9) (tie) 10. Elton John (9) (tie) 10. Usher (9) (tie) At 31 years old, Usher is by far the youngest artist to make the all time list of Billboard chart history. He is also the 1st artist to have a #1 song in the 90s, 00s, and 10s, marking 3 decades of chart toppers. He has now spent 43 weeks at the number one spot making him the artist with the 4th longest reign at the top spot. His album Raymond v Raymond is also his 5th consecutive album to spun a #1 single on the main chart. Congratulations to Usher! Well... Usher...
Actually Usher back in the day was the shit!!!!! Definitely the most talented entertainer since MJ IMO. I remember him back in the dayz when he was 19. He was great. Even guys used to like him despite the dominance of hip hop culture. He was great entertainer. I really enjoyed the My way/8701 era. Very good singer and most importantly very good LIVE singer and performer. Which doesn't exist anymore. Chris Brown and Omarion to name a few can't sing at all... He just fell off after 8701 artistically. He didn't grow anymore. I didnt like confessions which was his biggest selling record. Since then he never came back... Now He looks old and tired... Too much success made him lazy... Strange though because there's no new artist who can touch him when it comes to talent. | |
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Marrk said: Sorry to go off track but does anyone think a deceased MJ can score further hits on Billboard?
Probably. In fact, being deceased is probably the only reason he'll ever have another big hit. | |
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Does he take his shirt off in the new video? otherwise I don't care. 2012: The Queen Returns | |
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Vanilli said: 
Usher, Michael Jackson isn't a musical genre. 3 decades of ripping off a real legend shouldn't count for much, but apparently in this day and age it does. HOLY FUCK!!! his dick is a musical legend  2012: The Queen Returns | |
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HonestMan13 said: Let's keep it real.
It's a 12 year 3 month span between the first number one and the most recent. It's a built up excuse for press on a trivial issue. He's in a 3 way tie for the tenth spot and since he showed up last that makes him #12. I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! | |
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sleepyq said: On the Billboard Hot 100:
Nice & Slow- Febuary 14, 1998 (2 weeks) U Remind Me- July 7, 2001 (4 weeks) U Got It Bad- December 15, 2001 (6 weeks) Yeah!- Febuary 24, 2004 (12 weeks) Burn- May 22, 2004 (7 weeks) Confessions Part II- July 24, 2004 (2 weeks) My Boo- October 30, 2004 (6 weeks) Love in This Club- March 15, 2008 (3 weeks) OMG- May 15, 2010 (1 week) All Time List: 1. The Beatles (20) 2. Mariah Carey (18) 3. Elvis Presley (17) (Pre-Hot 100 charts and Hot 100) 4. Michael Jackson (13) 5. Madonna (12) (tie) 5. The Supremes (12) (tie) 7. Whitney Houston (11) 8. Janet Jackson (10) (tie) 8. Stevie Wonder (10) (tie) 10. Bee Gees (9) (tie) 10. Elton John (9) (tie) 10. Usher (9) (tie) At 31 years old, Usher is by far the youngest artist to make the all time list of Billboard chart history. He is also the 1st artist to have a #1 song in the 90s, 00s, and 10s, marking 3 decades of chart toppers. He has now spent 43 weeks at the number one spot making him the artist with the 4th longest reign at the top spot. His album Raymond v Raymond is also his 5th consecutive album to spun a #1 single on the main chart. this list is deceptive becuz there are artists on that list who have not had a number one since the 90s. Elvis surely did not have any hits in the 80s or 90s or 00s or 10s. Neither did the Beatles or the Supremes. Just goes to show that lists don't mean crap. | |
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RKJCNE said: Vanilli said:
Usher, Michael Jackson isn't a musical genre. 3 decades of ripping off a real legend shouldn't count for much, but apparently in this day and age it does. HOLY FUCK!!! his dick is a musical legend MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P مايكل جاكسون للأبد 1958 | |
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RKJCNE said: Does he take his shirt off in the new video? otherwise I don't care.
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Mariah being the second highest is an outrage
Some big time payola must be the main reason why she is up there. | |
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thesexofit said: Mariah being the second highest is an outrage
Some big time payola must be the main reason why she is up there. She actually earned hers when the single was pushed and promoted for sale in stores. Now everything is digital and so shady. When go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all up in the house but when log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming! | |
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Huggiebear said: Yeah, but how many CDs has Prince sold since 2000, that don't include giveaways and book tie ins. Or in fact full priced CD's, most of the time you can get his shit on discount here.
Anyway, it will be a lot less than Usher, how many copies did Confessions and 8701 sell? Usher 8701- 7.6 mil Confessions- 16 mil Here I Stand- 2.2 mil Raymond v Raymond- 1 mil US Total: 17.4 mil Worldwide Total: 26.8 mil Prince: The Very Best of Prince- 3.4 mil The Rainbow Children- 400k N.E.W.S.- 100k Musicology- 3.5 mil (including concert giveaways) 3121- 1.4 mil The Ultimate Prince- 400k Planet Earth- 600k Lotusflower- 500k US Total: 5.9 mil Total: 10.2 | |
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Here's a new quote from Usher regarding his status:
"I've been doing this 18 years now and my icon is well on its way. Michael was doing it for 50 years and that's something I'd like to grow towards. At the same time, I am one of a kind, a worldwide pop icon." | |
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sleepyq said: Huggiebear said: Yeah, but how many CDs has Prince sold since 2000, that don't include giveaways and book tie ins. Or in fact full priced CD's, most of the time you can get his shit on discount here.
Anyway, it will be a lot less than Usher, how many copies did Confessions and 8701 sell? Usher 8701- 7.6 mil Confessions- 16 mil Here I Stand- 2.2 mil Raymond v Raymond- 1 mil US Total: 17.4 mil Worldwide Total: 26.8 mil Prince: The Very Best of Prince- 3.4 mil The Rainbow Children- 400k N.E.W.S.- 100k Musicology- 3.5 mil (including concert giveaways) 3121- 1.4 mil The Ultimate Prince- 400k Planet Earth- 600k Lotusflower- 500k US Total: 5.9 mil Total: 10.2 ---- Once again your comparing a guy going into his 50s to Usher who is at his late 20s and 30s. Older artist don't get the radio airplay that young artist receive and some of P's CDs have been independent so he is not getting airplay, payola, promotion or video time. If you put these two artists against each other artistically Usher is not on P's wavelength. Not now and not back in P's prime. If Usher had been around in Ps prime know one have been comparing them Usher has been lucky to have receive great promotion and to have spread his cd output over the years and he came along when music is at its worst. Those are the only reason he is still around and I am not sure how much longer his luck is going to go but we will see. He could still be around another 20 years from now and too me he still will not be on P's level or MJs as a artist. . | |
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I don't know why but usher's span reminds me of janet's a lot, so I'm predicting that after 2015 something will happen that will make his sales dip. And she was the first artist to have #1's in the 80's, 90's and 00's. | |
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alphastreet said: I don't know why but usher's span reminds me of janet's a lot, so I'm predicting that after 2015 something will happen that will make his sales dip. And she was the first artist to have #1's in the 80's, 90's and 00's.
----- Exactly does anyone think Janet will ever sell a large amount of CDs again | |
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Comparing Usher 2 Prince on any level is rather pointless. | |
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