Such hate and vitriol is a waste of energy and time. Focus your energies elsewhere.

It's one thing to not care for someone, or even call an artist out on nonsense, but to spend time hating on someone to a great extent is wasteful. Just sayin'.

But I'll say this about Beyowulf: I'm not impressed with her anymore. I love a good catchy riff and song. Hell, I love Spice Girls songs, too. B's lying about songwriting, and other ghost writing, and side-stepping things about her music puts a bad taste in my mouth. I hate these "stars" that try to create some sort of mystique and prodigy-esque glow around themselves. She exaggerates shit to the point that it's comical. Plus, I just think she takes herself WAY too seriously.

I like Beyonce. I have a lot of her songs. I think she's an amazing singer. Her personality doesn't bother me too much. I admire her hustle.

On the other hand, I do concur that I feel she wastes her talent on throwaway songs and I would like to see her begin to mature and show some growth as an artist. Her dancing is very limited. A break now and then would not be a bad idea. Also if she upgraded her wigs and weaves it would not be a bad idea.

Other than that, I have no hate for Beyonce. Then again I can't think of too many artists that I actually hate. maybe Miley Cyrus and Justin Bieber LOL.

She's definitely a queen.

But her reign is over a vastly shrunken, crumbling, and even more
breathtakingly superficial era.

She so far seems to possess neither the substance of Tina Turner nor the amazing volume of quality material of either Donna Summer or Diana Ross.

As you say, she's a very good singer/entertainer. If only she had been born in an era where she didn't have to be viewed as doing everything on her own, which she clearly can't and shouldn't, Motown might have carved her out a pretty amazing career.

No, not a more popular one, a much higher volume of quality material.

Vanilli said:

Beyonce can sing, I'll give her that, but her music isn't really innovative or wonderful, I actually liked her better when she was still with Destiny's Child, but even then I didn't care much for their music. I mean, to me, her music sounds too generic and on top of that, she does try a little too damn hard to impress people, which is a turn off for me. I mean, she's really just a complete fake ever since she sold out, I don't necessarily mean that in bad way, it's just her sound is so popish and annoying.

I don't hate her, I just think she needs better material or better yet just retire for a while and have some damn kids ( ) with her hubby.
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Curtwill1975 said:

Oh yes, yes it can. Her music is an assault on the senses. Listening to it is akin to being humped by a dog. Add to that her horrible personality, extreme overexposure and lyrics that conflict each other with consecutive singles, and Beyonce becomes a pox on us all.

Moonbeam said:

Yeah, her music sounds generic and not well thought of.

NastradumasKid said:

"Generic" is a generous depiction of her "music". Obnoxious and in your face is more like it!

Moonbeam said:

I'm putting this quote in my sig!!!!!

Curtwill1975 said:

i don't hate her. just don't care for her music is all.

NastradumasKid said:

Go for it!

Moonbeam said:

Just did!!!!!

she's one of the better artists today of the 00's, fuck you all

alphastreet said:

How about you fuck yourself and maybe I'll fuck you? BTW, it's 2010.

alphastreet said:

I'm just as allowed to abhor her as you are to like her!

Moonbeam said:

BEYONCE

Pros
She has a great voice.
Nice ass.
Good music to party to.
She's pretty.
Prince actually let her get onstage with him.

Cons
Sings crappy material unworthy of her voice.
Depends on her ass to move units.
Horrible music for playing at home.
Makes too many unnecessary music videos for subpar tracks.
Overexposed(in every sense of the word).

i was a beyonce hater in the beginning also . when she and her pops kicked those broads out of destiny's child, but as she did more and more stuff (solo and with the group) and i compared her work with the other girl's solo stuff (fucking awful...all of them ). i realized she really was the "star" all along and didn't need those other chicks (she did also ). now is she the greatest vocalist that ever lived? hell no, but she does have her moments and like most artists, her voice normally fits fine with what she's tryna do musically. the greatest dancer or entertainer? no, but i've seen a few of her performances and she puts on a great show and one can't deny that she's fine as all outdoors (not that that really matters, but you know, it helps ). i have yet to listen to a full beyonce album (although i've heard the first 2 destiny's child joints cuz i used to be on they shit like crazy, i can't even stunt ), but have enjoyed most of her singles immensely, some of them more than others. is there anything spectacular or incredibly original about them? not usually, but it's pop music, it's fun, who really cares? she's not the best, she's not the worst, but she doesn't claim to be either . i can see why some people would find her annoying or just not care for her or her music, but to say she's talentless is just not true . on a side note: she should never act...like ever. something we can all agree on

MyNameIsPiper said:

comegetwild said:

Who knows, but I don't pay attention to, say, Beyoncé or Lady Gaga threads because the amount of snobbery and hate on them is just plain annoying

And, personally, I'll never comprehend the whole "she's overexposed" excuse.

Alej said:

Ahh poor Alej....what are we gonna do with you?

When we see a line of "Beyonce's scented toilet paper", I'll remember this post

bboy87 said:

It's so easy to just ignore things, though.

And I guess it's a bit hard for me to understand because I don't live in the USA

bboy87 said:

Shut the hell up!!!!! When Beyonce comes out with some Beyonce scented condoms, then maybe I'll think twice about her.

Moonbeam said:

And Alej, I like Lady Gaga. At least she can write. And I know I'll never get bored watching her. Probably why I like kooky musicians so much...
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I wonder if other boards out there in net land also hate B. I bet there is just like there is for other artists.

I didn't really care for her until I saw her live. She is an incredibly talented performer and vocalist, period. I wasn't excited to see her and she really changed my perception of her.

She's sortof a brand name at this point... a character. you don't know what is really her. All of that is true. But from a sheer performance standpoint I think she's very good, especially by today's pop standards. She's miles better than most artists that make today's Top 40 IMHO.

Alej said:

Not when she's EVERYWHERE

bboy87 said:

Well I don't see her on my TV or hear her on my radio and the usual times I see her online I just go search elsewhere.

Timmy84 said:

I remember reading somewhere, that some dude called Beyonce a corn-fed hen with bad weave and sold out to white people.