SCNDLS said:

even better as i want her to go away already

PricelessHo said:

Who you tellin'??

SCNDLS said:

daingermouz2020 said:

I remember having a conversation with someone about Luther being gay and they got upset and said they didn't believe he was, but I thought everyone knew.

Funny how Luther got away with being gay and Tevin Campbell didn't.

his inner self

SoulAlive said:

speaking of Gladys, she had a grudge against Diana Ross for the longest time

I don't blame her. It is Diana we are talking about.

haha and ofcourse Diana and Patti.

scriptgirl said:

Gladys was frustrated how she was being treated on Motown whereas Diana was given top billing.

Not to mention, Gladys was the one who truly discovered The Jackson 5, but when she called Motown to check the group out, they ignored it, but Bobby Taylor took them to Motown, got them the deal and who was said discovered them?

Diana. You can see the smirk on Gladys' face whenever that story is told

bboy87 said:

Why oh WHY does Diane get to be the easy target when it should've been the dwarf?

I know Diane have her own diva episodes, but I don't think she was capable of making that up,,,,,its easily Motown's PR department.

I wish Suzanne De Passe would write about the thing she saw in there(Motown) she've witness some eyebrow raising stuff than anybody in that company.

Re dwarf, do you mean Berry, who still looks like a Mississippi pimp?

Also, Suzanne De Passes strikes me as a ring tailed bitch. If anybody knows how to play the game and rewrote a few of them herself, it's old girl

scriptgirl said:

didn't Tevin say he wasn't gay but he was /is a freak a few years ago?

Harlepolis said:

I think she and Diana already had beef before the J5 thing.

Suzanne should write a book Deke Richards who was with the label for a time is writing one, he saw ALOT of stuff goin' on back then

My boy Mistermaxxx gave me Deke's number if I had any questions, but I was like "What am I gonna say to Deke muthafuckin' Richards?!"

The brotha wrote some of my favorite songs "Can I See You In The Morning" and "The Love You Save", I can't say nothin' to dude except "Thank You"

SoulAlive said:

It was. I still have the Vibe article with EnVogue on the front
and Cindy pregnant on the cover. Cindy who is the most down to earth
and honest member of the group stated that Luther was mean and nasty.
He told the stage workers to put up a curtain because he didn't want
to see their faces. EnVogue said it was a constant battle with Luther
over how the stage should be set,etc. that it was no way they could
continue the tour with him.

SoulAlive said:

They really are and are timeless and still sounds
great today imo.

bboy87 said:

I think it may have something to do with Diana being given
credit for discovering that famous brother group.

phunkdaddy said:

during a documentary, Gladys said "I called Motown but they never sent anyone, but they did get there.....and you know what happened"


She called Diana Miss Thang in her book when she talks about the group. Nobody knew the truth until around 1987 when Michael and Marlon told the story

Berry Gordy pimped Diana Ross like a dog. People call Diana the "diva" but I do think it's over-exaggerated even if she did have beef with some Motown artists (Marvin, Flo, Martha, Gladys, the Tempts, etc.) But compared to Aretha and Anita, she's Mary Poppins, lol. I remember hearing about how Patti and Martha Reeves wanted to, quote, unquote, "cut that heffa" for stealing their dress wear, lol.

Wouldn't Deke Richards had to have signed some kind of confidentiality contract that would prevent him from telling tales out of school?

And again, when you say "dwarf" do you mean Berry?
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Harlepolis said:

I think most creative folks(musicians, singers, actors, artists) are whack jobs.

scriptgirl said:

Yes, Berry's only like 5'5 or something, he's a midget.

As for Deke, nah, nothing's preventing him from talking about stuff, then again, no one's ever approached him with questions about what was going down during that time, lol
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There has GOT to be a old drag queen in this thread just sippin some Sweet B---- wine waiting to spill some tea

paisleypark4 said:

Hmmm... there'll could be.

scriptgirl said:

He was with Motown in the late 60s or early 70s, they definitely didn't have a confidentiality agreement

PricelessHo said:

I read a interview not too long ago that Joss said that Aretha's people handed Joss a contract with a lot of things so Joss said maybe next time lol...

bboy87 said:

That was One of the reasons but the main reason, Ms. Knight claims that call me Ms.Ross had them removed from an opening spot on the '68 Supremes tour. Ms. Knight spoke these events in matter of fact terms. Whatever went on, well all know Gladys Knight & the Pips careers took off after they left Motown. Can we say B-U-D-D-A-H boy and girls? Oops.

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What label did Gladys go to after Motown?

scriptgirl said:

Buddah Records.

Timmy84 said:

The Pips were one of those acts were they've never really been seen as a Motown act, they left Motown like The Isleys and got bigger. Were they even at Motown 25?