JoeTyler said:

I think the omission of "This Used to Be My Playground", "I'll Remember" and "You'll See" is a bigger story than any of those missing, but I'd love to have a 3rd disc of the ones I mentioned plus most of the ones you mentioned and "Gambler".

Moonbeam said:

Ooops, sorry ! I forgot Playground; you're right; change playground for Where's the party remix version and there you have it!
But I'm not so crazy about I'll remember and You'll see, though I'd include them in a 4CD Box set...

Why so concerned about "Deeper..."? I understand it was one of her few dance tracks back in the day (and thus, on GHV2), but she has several more essential dance tunes since then. Plus including it alongside "Vogue" would have looked weird, with the lyric-sample and the similar beats. Love the Re-Invention version though.

OK, I came up with a tracklist I kind of like for a 3CD set.

Pop:

1 Borderline
2 Like a Virgin
3 Material Girl
4 Papa Don't Preach
5 True Blue
6 La Isla Bonita
7 Who's That Girl
8 Like a Prayer
9 Cherish
10 Secret
11 Beautiful Stranger
12 Don't Tell Me
13 What It Feels Like for a Girl
14 Die Another Day
15 Hollywood
16 Jump
17 4 Minutes
18 Revolver

Dance:

1 Everybody
2 Burning Up
3 Holiday
4 Lucky Star
5 Angel
6 Into the Groove
7 Dress You Up
8 Gambler
9 Open Your Heart
10 Causing a Commotion
11 Express Yourself
12 Vogue
13 Deeper and Deeper
14 Ray of Light
15 Music
16 Hung Up
17 Sorry
18 Celebration

Ballads:

1 Crazy for You
2 Live to Tell
3 The Look of Love
4 Oh Father
5 Justify My Love
6 Erotica
7 This Used to Be My Playground
8 Bad Girl
9 Rain
10 I'll Remember
11 Take a Bow
12 You'll See
13 You Must Love Me
14 Frozen
15 The Power of Goodbye
16 Substitute for Love
17 Nothing Fails
18 Miles Away

Slightly edited running order.
[Edited 8/19/09 16:24pm]

Moonbeam said:

That's so much better than what they came up with! I'd love a box set like that.

LiveToTell86 said:

D&D is a classic!!!! and one of the songs that perfectly encapsulates the kind of music that Madgie was doing during the 90-93 era...

JoeTyler said:

"Deeper And Deeper" is one of Madonna's best dance songs.

SoulAlive said:

Yeah, interesting track-list indeed ; add a fourth CD with some strong album tracks (not singles), remixes, B-Sides, unreleased tracks and live cuts and then you'd have the definitive Madgie's box set

LiveToTell86 said:

Assuming they're talking about the remix video of "Express Yourself," this is excellent!

Moonbeam said:

"The Power of Good-Bye"!

JoeTyler said:

But "Vogue" and "JML" do that more, and they were far bigger hits and made impact. "D&D" was a radio hit alright but not sure how it reached "classic" status.

AlexdeParis: I think "edit" implies it's the version that was on the TIC DVD, which is shorter than the album version. The actual remix would have been called "video remix" or something, I might be wrong though. Not that it matters, because either of them would be FANTASTIC if included!

JoeTyler said:

Besides, it's considerably less weird than having "Justify My Love" and "Erotica" side by side. At any rate, Erotica needs a second song.

you can get around the shared lyrics of Vogue and Deeper and Deeper by putting them on different discs. or using them as the first and last track on a disc to give it a thematic opening and closing for a disc, sort of like coming full circle before moving on to the next disc.




and wouldn't it be a kicker if the single disc verion had different songs on it? or different versions? like all single edits just to fit as many tracks as possible on one disc?

that would be both infuriating and gratifying

Why do people get excited about Greatest Hits packages? They're just all the songs you already own in a different order.

JoeTyler said:

I never though of Angel as a dance track and of Erotica as a ballad

SoulAlive said:

yeah, it's really good.

But I think the official tracklist is okay, too.

But I think I'm not gonna buy it. I usually don't buy GH, and since the two new songs will be released as singles, I'll rather buy these.

Where's OFFICIAL confirmation that this is def the final tracklist???

If D&D and Rain are ignored, this is garbage, Madonna's taste in her own catalogue is garbage and I'm just gonna go buy an new unscratched version of Erotica instead. Fuck that noise.

SoulAlive said:

I think we were very lucky to get "Who's That Girl" on the 2 CD set. I would be shocked if it appears on the 1 disc one.

I also would be really surprised if both new tracks don't appear on both CDs.

Celebration
Holiday
Lucky Star
Like A Virgin
Live To Tell
Papa Don't Preach
Like A Prayer
Express Yourself
Vogue
Justify My Love
Take A Bow
Secret
Ray Of Light
Music
Die Another Day
Hung Up
4 Minutes
Miles Away (doesn't make any sense on the 2 disc....shouldn't make any fucking sense here either)
Revolver

LiveToTell86 said:

Why?

Because "Erotica", which fans loved but critics, the media and casual fans hated, is only represented by one track. While "Hard Candy", which was saved from being totally forgotten only by her tour has two tracks. That's not a good balance. if you are going to represent her career, you can do it better than by trying to hype up one of her biggest clunkers. It did change the world....what other Madonna track would barely crack the Top 40 in the UK where she is loved. It's also got a great disco sound and it's lyrics are great (even without the "Vogue" reference). Than again, it's typical Madonna bullshit to screw the project up by including questionable tracks over bigger and better ones (as well as including shitty versions of songs).

I always though Deeper was one of her weakest singles, its never appealed to me. I prefer Bad girl and Fever.

My ideal list

1. Everybody
2. Lucky Star
3. Borderline
4. Holiday
5. Like A Virgin
6. Dress You Up
7. Material Girl
8. Into the Groove
9. Crazy For You
10. Open Your Heart
11 Papa Don't Preach
12.La Isla Bonita
13.Who's that Girl
14.Causing a Commotion
15.Like a Prayer
16.Express Yourself
17.Vogue

1. Justify My Love
2. This Used to be My Playground
2. Erotica
3. Deeper and Deeper
4. Rain
5. I'll Remember
6. Secret
7. Take a Bow
8. Human Nature
9 .You'll See
11.Ray of Light
12.Music
13.Hung Up
14.Sorry
15 4 Minutes
16. Revolver
17. Celebration
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VinnyM27 said:

I disagree, Erotica is far from an universal fan fav. And if you wanna go charts and sales, then HC has the edge because Erotica followed one of her most successful eras ever yet it didn't even sell half of what LAP did and there were no illegal downloads, and at least HC yielded a bonafide hit. Erotica's by no means a lesser "clunker" era than AL or HC. It's not the critics who didn't buy Erotica, neither it was radio who didn't support (unlike AL & HC), in fact the title track broke a radio record, it might have been her most hyped release ever.

But that era has a bad reputation and while "Deeper And Deeper" was played on the radio and fans might love it (unlike later HC singles that was NOT played by radio), it won't make it an essential track, neither the artist should downplay her current work to include it. "Miles Away" was a UK flop (which actually has nothing to do with her being loved or not) but nothing on Erotica did as well as "Miles Away" did in Japan. This is not a US/UK chart compilation. Obviously the "changed the world" is a hype thing, but I don't see how it would apply any of the Erotica tracks. The SEX book did change the world though, but not the music of that era.

suga10 said:

I think you forgot something. Well, I mean, I would hope you're not serious about leaving off "Live to Tell."

You also have #10 missing on disc 2. Is that "Frozen"?

RKJCNE said:

"Bad Girl" and "Deeper and Deeper" are the only 2 Erotica tracks I truly love.

LiveToTell86 said:

Well it is of course all subjective, but Erotica has been viewed highly favourably in retrospect.....as Hard Candy may well be - however, the HC era is different. I remember the savagery of alot of the backlash against her in 92-93. Erotica is streets ahead of HC & AL both lyrically and musically, and it performed badly due to the complete over reaction to all the other stuff she was doing. Nobody talked about the album at all. If she'd have released Deeper & Deeper in 1990 it'd have been a number 1 single.

HC & AL are both good enough records, but performed badly because they're not great records. Erotica in my opinion performed badly because of all the controversy swirling round her career in 1992.

CHIC0 said:

.....errrrrm? Is this tongue in cheek or did somebody really compile those songs together like that?

AlexdeParis said:

Yeah I forget Frozen. That's #10.

And how could I forget Live to Tell??


In that case I'll knock off Causing a Commotion
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[Edited 8/19/09 16:15pm]

Updated:

My ideal list

1. Everybody
2. Lucky Star
3. Borderline
4. Holiday
5. Like A Virgin
6. Dress You Up
7. Material Girl
8. Into the Groove
9. Crazy For You
10. Open Your Heart
11 Papa Don't Preach
12.La Isla Bonita
13.Live to Tell
14 .Who's that Girl
15.Like a Prayer
16.Express Yourself
17.Vogue

1. Justify My Love
2. This Used to be My Playground
2. Erotica
3. Deeper and Deeper
4. Rain
5. I'll Remember
6. Secret
7. Take a Bow
8. Human Nature
9 .You'll See
10.Frozen
11.Ray of Light
12.Music
13.Hung Up
14.Sorry
15 4 Minutes
16. Revolver
17. Celebration

CrozzaUK said:

I saw this on a Madonna fansite It is horrendous,isn't it?