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Reply #1140 posted 08/17/09 5:35pm

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LiveToTell86 said:


09) Like A Prayer - Immaculate Collection Version


fit
I hope this isn't true.

anyway two questions
what is Q sound
and what's this beef with Stephan Bray?


I think most of the Immaculate versions were bad. Some of the songs where the difference was minimal were OK. Express Yourself was OK too (although I like the album version more). But Holiday, Into The Groove and La Isla Bonita were horrible. Like A Prayer was horrible too although it is so different that the original that I actually don't mind it in the IC. But to include that horribly dated version in a new compilation is crap when she could include the original or even better the version she performed in Live 8 and the Re-Invention Tour. Even the S&S tour version would be better than the IC version.
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Reply #1141 posted 08/17/09 5:49pm

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This is bulls**t.

If they used the single versions and edits in place of LP versions, they could have added a few more cuts there.

Yeah, that part does bother me. I'd prefer all the songs to be edited so we could get as many as possible.

There are a ton of hits missing here, shunned to make room for non-hits like Hollywood and Miles Away. How did Sorry (#58 Hot 100) make the cut over Keep It Together (#8), True Blue (#3) or I'll Remember (#2)?

Well, the 3 songs you mentioned give her last 3 albums a 2nd track. Erotica is the only full-length Madonna album (not tied to a movie) with fewer than 2 tracks. "Deeper and Deeper" should've been included.

Overall, it's a pretty good group. It contains all of her US #1 hits except "This Used to Be My Playground" and all of her UK #1 hits except "True Blue" and that horrendous cover song.

(Of course, at the risk of sounding like a broken record, it would've been nice to have "Causing a Commotion," which you'll note made almost all of our lists. But I'm just giddy over "Who's That Girl" and the album version of "Into the Groove"!)
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Reply #1142 posted 08/17/09 5:58pm

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you're not a Madonna fan. you go to a record store and see a new Madonna greatest hits album on the shelf and you look at the back and say "Oh, Like A Prayer! I love that song! Express Yourself? I love that one too! I'm going to pick this up!"

you take it home and listen to it and you're like "WTF IS THIS REMIX SHIT! Where's the guitar? Where are the horns?"

seriously. nobody that buys this album and doesn't already know that it's the remixed versions is going to be happy to hear them when they play the album. they're going to feel ripped off that these aren't the versions that they know or remember. this is exactly why the Immaculate Collection needed to be replaced. and now they're using the remixes from it?!

ugh.
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Reply #1143 posted 08/17/09 6:03pm

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lol I still say the "Express Yourself" remix is at least as well known as the original (and probably more). As for the others, well... I think we have to at least acknowledge the fact that those are the definitive versions to a lot of Madonna fans.
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Reply #1144 posted 08/17/09 6:09pm

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AlexdeParis said:

lol I still say the "Express Yourself" remix is at least as well known as the original (and probably more).


I really don't think it is. the only Immaculate Collection versions I still hear on the radio are Into the Groove and occasionally Holiday. that wasn't true for the couple of years after it was released. but for everything but those two, they've all reverted back to the original versions. the Immaculate version of Express Yourself was played as much as the original on stations back when stations still played her new songs for a couple of years after that, but since it's now old and they don't play old songs or even her new stuff, the only one I hear is the original 7" version or album version.

As for the others, well... I think we have to at least acknowledge the fact that those are the definitive versions to a lot of Madonna fans.


nah, just for you and Guy Oseary lol
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Reply #1145 posted 08/17/09 6:10pm

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errant said:

you're not a Madonna fan. you go to a record store and see a new Madonna greatest hits album on the shelf and you look at the back and say "Oh, Like A Prayer! I love that song! Express Yourself? I love that one too! I'm going to pick this up!"

you take it home and listen to it and you're like "WTF IS THIS REMIX SHIT! Where's the guitar? Where are the horns?"

seriously. nobody that buys this album and doesn't already know that it's the remixed versions is going to be happy to hear them when they play the album. they're going to feel ripped off that these aren't the versions that they know or remember. this is exactly why the Immaculate Collection needed to be replaced. and now they're using the remixes from it?!

ugh.


Actually now that I think about it since 16 of the 17 Immaculate songs are also here they should use the original versions and leave the IC with a bit of life as a nice remix album. Like this they completely bury the old compilation
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Reply #1146 posted 08/17/09 7:43pm

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errant said:

AlexdeParis said:

lol I still say the "Express Yourself" remix is at least as well known as the original (and probably more).


I really don't think it is. the only Immaculate Collection versions I still hear on the radio are Into the Groove and occasionally Holiday. that wasn't true for the couple of years after it was released. but for everything but those two, they've all reverted back to the original versions. the Immaculate version of Express Yourself was played as much as the original on stations back when stations still played her new songs for a couple of years after that, but since it's now old and they don't play old songs or even her new stuff, the only one I hear is the original 7" version or album version.

But that's my point. I want what was played on the radio in 1989-90. I hate it when hits compilations ignore the hit versions and just include album tracks. That's what the album's for! I want the radio/video versions.

As for the others, well... I think we have to at least acknowledge the fact that those are the definitive versions to a lot of Madonna fans.


nah, just for you and Guy Oseary lol

I was talking about the fans who have only heard/owned TIC (and there have to be a number of them).
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Reply #1147 posted 08/17/09 8:01pm

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But that's my point. I want what was played on the radio in 1989-90. I hate it when hits compilations ignore the hit versions and just include album tracks. That's what the album's for! I want the radio/video versions.


right. but that remix wasn't the one that was played on the radio in 1989/1990! it was only played from very late 90 and for a couple years when stations were lazy (and the mixes were new) and just threw on TIC.

I was talking about the fans who have only heard/owned TIC (and there have to be a number of them).



well then they aren't fans, then are they? they're just like everyone else. the great unwashed who only have TIC lol
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Reply #1148 posted 08/17/09 8:45pm

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jiorjios said:

More news about the Celebration tracklist:
All songs will appear on their album version except:
a)4 Minutes, Everybody, Sorry, Secret, Erotica, Dress You Up, Miles Away & Don't Tell Me will appear in album edits
b)Vogue, Like A Virgin, Like A Prayer, Express Yourself, Open Your Heart, Borderline, Crazy For You & Cherish will appear in the Immaculate Collection versions.

Cool so we will get the original version of Into The Groove after all:)

What? The "Like A Prayer" remix is far too different and stipped down from the original. Maybe it was cute for "The Immaculate Collection" but not again. I don't like how "Vogue" starts. At least if this is true, "Into The Groove" will be in it's full glory!
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Reply #1149 posted 08/17/09 9:01pm

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errant said:

you're not a Madonna fan. you go to a record store and see a new Madonna greatest hits album on the shelf and you look at the back and say "Oh, Like A Prayer! I love that song! Express Yourself? I love that one too! I'm going to pick this up!"

you take it home and listen to it and you're like "WTF IS THIS REMIX SHIT! Where's the guitar? Where are the horns?"

seriously. nobody that buys this album and doesn't already know that it's the remixed versions is going to be happy to hear them when they play the album. they're going to feel ripped off that these aren't the versions that they know or remember. this is exactly why the Immaculate Collection needed to be replaced. and now they're using the remixes from it?!

ugh.

no one remembers the orginial LAP or EY except the hardcore fans. It's the IC mixes that are played on those cable music channels and ssatilate and regular radio anymore
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Reply #1150 posted 08/17/09 9:12pm

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errant said:

AlexdeParis said:

lol I still say the "Express Yourself" remix is at least as well known as the original (and probably more).


I really don't think it is. the only Immaculate Collection versions I still hear on the radio are Into the Groove and occasionally Holiday. that wasn't true for the couple of years after it was released. but for everything but those two, they've all reverted back to the original versions. the Immaculate version of Express Yourself was played as much as the original on stations back when stations still played her new songs for a couple of years after that, but since it's now old and they don't play old songs or even her new stuff, the only one I hear is the original 7" version or album version.

As for the others, well... I think we have to at least acknowledge the fact that those are the definitive versions to a lot of Madonna fans.


nah, just for you and Guy Oseary lol
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I noticed for a while that radio stations picked up the TIC "Into the Groove" but then they stopped and went with the original (same with "Like A Prayer). That being said, unfortunately the Strobe, which should know better since they just redid their entire playlist, just played the TIC verision. Damn, damn, damn!
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Reply #1151 posted 08/17/09 9:16pm

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ehuffnsd said:

errant said:

you're not a Madonna fan. you go to a record store and see a new Madonna greatest hits album on the shelf and you look at the back and say "Oh, Like A Prayer! I love that song! Express Yourself? I love that one too! I'm going to pick this up!"

you take it home and listen to it and you're like "WTF IS THIS REMIX SHIT! Where's the guitar? Where are the horns?"

seriously. nobody that buys this album and doesn't already know that it's the remixed versions is going to be happy to hear them when they play the album. they're going to feel ripped off that these aren't the versions that they know or remember. this is exactly why the Immaculate Collection needed to be replaced. and now they're using the remixes from it?!

ugh.

no one remembers the orginial LAP or EY except the hardcore fans. It's the IC mixes that are played on those cable music channels and ssatilate and regular radio anymore


Not sure about "Express Yourself" but anytime I've heard "Like A Prayer" on Sirius, it was the album version. Also hear it on other stations. They used to play the TIC version but haven't heard it in a while.

Including TIC versions on Celebration perhaps gives a slightly valid reason for deleting it, but it's purely lazy and or selfish (or fucking vendentta against Steve Bray better not fuck up "Into the Groove" again....who knows what the LP version is?).
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Reply #1152 posted 08/17/09 9:28pm

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errant said:

AlexdeParis said:

But that's my point. I want what was played on the radio in 1989-90. I hate it when hits compilations ignore the hit versions and just include album tracks. That's what the album's for! I want the radio/video versions.


right. but that remix wasn't the one that was played on the radio in 1989/1990! it was only played from very late 90 and for a couple years when stations were lazy (and the mixes were new) and just threw on TIC.

Yeah, but it's much closer than the album version. smile The 7" Remix/Edit is slightly different.
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Reply #1153 posted 08/17/09 9:36pm

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Reply #1154 posted 08/18/09 1:49am

JoeTyler

I still think that track-list is fake; it has "fan-made" written all over its face... lol
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Reply #1155 posted 08/18/09 4:00am

LiveToTell86

^It's real. Madonna Tribe has a long list of accurate news and they know this piece of news would be long dissected by fans, so they definitely would not risk it. The tracklist is finalized and is sent for pressing, so it was safe for Tribe to publish it.

About the Stephen Bray beef, supposedly he did not like the Shep remixes of his LAP singles and he never wanted to work with Madonna again (in fact Patrick Leonard did not like how she preferred Shep's remixes either). I also heard some fans saying he actually had a different version for the actual album version as well, so it must have pissed him off that Madonna changed her mind twice. But the real beef comes from him releasing the In The Beginning / Pre-Madonna compilations that included all the Madonna/Bray demos from around 1981. There are rumours about beefs with other producers, but I believe this was the only thing that crossed the line for her.

I wonder who remastered the original "Into The Groove" then, since I can't see Bray being asked to do that? Maybe Mark "Spike" Stent?
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Reply #1156 posted 08/18/09 4:15am

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I don't know why some fans are disappointed/surprised by this tracklist.Did we really think that they were gonna get it right this time? lol My expectations were low to begin with,so I'm not upset at all.When it was revealed that this would be a 2-CD set,I knew that there was no way they could include all the hits that fans want to hear.I knew that alot was gonna get left off.

I've said repeatedly: The only way to do it right is by releasing a 3 or 4-CD box set that includes everything:all the singles,key album tracks,the soundtrack hits,B-sides and rarities thrown in for good measure.Anything less than that just won't do!

Oh well,maybe one day we will finally get that box set,but I'm not holding my breath shrug
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Reply #1157 posted 08/18/09 4:17am

SoulAlive

Honestly,I'm much more excited about the Beatles remasters lol I wish that Prince and Madonna could see all the excitement surrounding that project,and maybe they could learn a thing or two.
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Reply #1158 posted 08/18/09 4:59am

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VoicesCarry said:

This is bulls**t.

If they used the single versions and edits in place of LP versions, they could have added a few more cuts there.

At this point, 7'' versions need to be used in place of Immaculate Collection versions. This is a hits collection - give me the hit versions. That means the 7'' remixes of Express Yourself and Like a Prayer.

There are a ton of hits missing here, shunned to make room for non-hits like Hollywood and Miles Away. How did Sorry (#58 Hot 100) make the cut over Keep It Together (#8), True Blue (#3) or I'll Remember (#2)?
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This album is not just being released in the United States. Sorry was a huge hit all over Europe. I don't think Keep it Together was even a single in Europe.


Because Sorry was a UK #1 and Top Ten in many other countries.
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Reply #1159 posted 08/18/09 5:02am

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errant said:

you're not a Madonna fan. you go to a record store and see a new Madonna greatest hits album on the shelf and you look at the back and say "Oh, Like A Prayer! I love that song! Express Yourself? I love that one too! I'm going to pick this up!"

you take it home and listen to it and you're like "WTF IS THIS REMIX SHIT! Where's the guitar? Where are the horns?"

seriously. nobody that buys this album and doesn't already know that it's the remixed versions is going to be happy to hear them when they play the album. they're going to feel ripped off that these aren't the versions that they know or remember. this is exactly why the Immaculate Collection needed to be replaced. and now they're using the remixes from it?!

ugh.



I prefer the EY remix over the album version.

I prefer the Open Yopur Heart BAT version over the album version

I like the dance-break of the LAP IC version.
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Reply #1160 posted 08/18/09 5:05am

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graecophilos said:

Glindathegood said:



This album is not just being released in the United States. Sorry was a huge hit all over Europe. I don't think Keep it Together was even a single in Europe.


Because Sorry was a UK #1 and Top Ten in many other countries.


And this is exactly why they should have released a box set.That way,ALL THE SINGLES could have been included.The singles that were popular in America,the singles that were popular in Europe,all of it!

I'm thrilled that "Sorry" is included.I think it's one of her strongest singles,regardless of its chart status in the States.
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Reply #1161 posted 08/18/09 5:09am

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^It's real. Madonna Tribe has a long list of accurate news and they know this piece of news would be long dissected by fans, so they definitely would not risk it. The tracklist is finalized and is sent for pressing, so it was safe for Tribe to publish it.

About the Stephen Bray beef, supposedly he did not like the Shep remixes of his LAP singles and he never wanted to work with Madonna again (in fact Patrick Leonard did not like how she preferred Shep's remixes either). I also heard some fans saying he actually had a different version for the actual album version as well, so it must have pissed him off that Madonna changed her mind twice. But the real beef comes from him releasing the In The Beginning / Pre-Madonna compilations that included all the Madonna/Bray demos from around 1981. There are rumours about beefs with other producers, but I believe this was the only thing that crossed the line for her.

I wonder who remastered the original "Into The Groove" then, since I can't see Bray being asked to do that? Maybe Mark "Spike" Stent?


As far as I know, that's true. Steve and M worked for TIC on a few songs, and Get Over (which I like) was the only song we know that was released.

I can see why M chose Rescue Me over Get Over. The latter was not as trendy as Rescue Me. Get Over is the better pop song, though.

I think Steve was also pissed ALL of his songs have been remixed or were left out. No CAC, True Blue, Angel, Express Yourself..

Btw, when will First Is A Kiss and the other LAp outtake will leak?
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Reply #1162 posted 08/18/09 5:18am

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SoulAlive said:

graecophilos said:



Because Sorry was a UK #1 and Top Ten in many other countries.


And this is exactly why they should have released a box set.That way,ALL THE SINGLES could have been included.The singles that were popular in America,the singles that were popular in Europe,all of it!


nod

An artist of Madonna's commercial stature deserves a truly comprehensive set. The diehards would love it. I'm so happy that "Burning Up" made the tracklist that she could have included "Spanish Lesson" as a repeated track 35 times and I'd still pick it up (well... almost), but Madonna really needs a box set. Properly remastered albums would be great too. Maybe she doesn't want to do such a thing until she's retired as a recording artist?
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Reply #1163 posted 08/18/09 5:27am

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right. but that remix wasn't the one that was played on the radio in 1989/1990! it was only played from very late 90 and for a couple years when stations were lazy (and the mixes were new) and just threw on TIC.

Yeah, but it's much closer than the album version. smile The 7" Remix/Edit is slightly different.



errr... I think there's some confusion here. There is a "7" Remix" which is almost exactly like the album version but with the bass brought up and a few other elements added in. that was the main single mix. that's the one that was a hit in 1989/1990 before TIC came out. then there is a "remix/edit" that was on the b-side of the promo that is an edit of the remix and is similar to the video remix. that version (the video verson) wasn't really on the radio in 89/90.
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Reply #1164 posted 08/18/09 5:42am

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errant said:

you're not a Madonna fan. you go to a record store and see a new Madonna greatest hits album on the shelf and you look at the back and say "Oh, Like A Prayer! I love that song! Express Yourself? I love that one too! I'm going to pick this up!"

you take it home and listen to it and you're like "WTF IS THIS REMIX SHIT! Where's the guitar? Where are the horns?"

seriously. nobody that buys this album and doesn't already know that it's the remixed versions is going to be happy to hear them when they play the album. they're going to feel ripped off that these aren't the versions that they know or remember. this is exactly why the Immaculate Collection needed to be replaced. and now they're using the remixes from it?!

ugh.

no one remembers the orginial LAP or EY except the hardcore fans. It's the IC mixes that are played on those cable music channels and ssatilate and regular radio anymore



not anywhere that i've heard them. i haven't hard TIC mixes of those 2 songs anywhere since the early 90's. it's always the originals now.
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Reply #1165 posted 08/18/09 5:58am

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As far as I know, that's true. Steve and M worked for TIC on a few songs, and Get Over (which I like) was the only song we know that was released.

I can see why M chose Rescue Me over Get Over. The latter was not as trendy as Rescue Me. Get Over is the better pop song, though.

I think Steve was also pissed ALL of his songs have been remixed or were left out. No CAC, True Blue, Angel, Express Yourself..

Btw, when will First Is A Kiss and the other LAp outtake will leak?


I can't even recall how "Get Over" goes. lol I think "Rescue Me" was just done to follow the Shep vein, it didn't bring anything new for them... But Shep did the whole TIC mixing indeed, so maybe even "Get Over" was to be remixed.

I'm afraid those will never leak. sad We almost have nothing from the pre-ROL days regarding leaks... I think the other song was "Love Attack". For some reason, I don't think those songs would be as impressive as "Express Yourself" anyway, I'm sure Madonna did the right thing with the LAP tracklist. Except "Love Song" of course. razz
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Reply #1166 posted 08/18/09 6:33am

JoeTyler

Well, if the track-list is official, then I'm gonna talk about it, let's see lol

CD 1:
01) Hung Up - LP Version (a bold and exciting choice to start the album nod)
02) Music - LP Version
03) Vogue - Immaculate Collection Version
04) 4 Minutes - LP Edit
05) Holiday - LP Version (TIC version is better, in my opinion)
06) Like A Virgin - Immaculate Collection Version (OK)
07) Into The Groove - LP Version (the 1985 original??? OH YEAH!!!! biggrin )
08) Everybody - LP Edit (yeah, the edit version was necessary smile )
09) Like A Prayer - Immaculate Collection Version (good choice, TIC version is somewhat more famous)
10) Ray Of Light - LP Version
11) Sorry - LP Edit (I'm so glad this song is finally included, it's one of her biggest european hits of the post-Music era)
12) Express Yourself - Immaculate Collection Version (fuck no! confused , LAP is WAY better, with all those horns...)
13) Open Your Heart - Immaculate Collection Version
14) Borderline - Immaculate Collection Version
15) Secret - LP Edit
16) Erotica - LP Edit
17) Justify My Love - LP Version (unessential, I don't know if this means TIC will be out of print soon...)
18) Celebrate

CD 2:
01) Dress You Up - LP Edit (odd choice to start the album; anyway I'm so glad this song finally made it)
02) Material Girl - LP Version
03) La Isla Bonita - LP Version
04) Papa Don't Preach - LP Version
05) Lucky Star - LP Edit
06) Burning Up - LP Version [i](YEAHH!!! biggrin ) cool

07) Crazy For You - Immaculate Collection Version (nod)
08) Who's That Girl - LP Version (finally! biggrin biggrin )
09) Frozen - LP Version
10) Miles Away - LP Edit (pffff, give me Give it to me anyday...)
11) Take A Bow - LP Version ( confused the long LP version please...)
12) Beautiful Stranger - LP Version
13) Hollywood - LP Version (worst track of the entire compilation, and where the hell is American Life?? eek )
14) Die Another Day - LP Version ( biggrin )
15) Don't Tell Me - LP Edit
16) Live To Tell - LP Version ( confused the long LP version is way betterd)
17) Cherish - Immaculate Collection Version
18) Revolver


I think it's a good track-list, not perfect, but decent and above all, EXCITING, with some surprises here and there; yeah, there's no Angel or Causing a commotion, but we have Burning Up, Everybody and Dress you up, which are much more hip cool . And there's also Who's that girl, so for that alone we should be happy biggrin On the other hand, the omission of Rain and Deeper and Deeper is a major insult, considering that Hollywood (pfff) and Miles Away are included.
Also, I like the fact that the track-list is not chronological; don't know why, but I like it lol
Conclusion: despite Rain and D&D, this tracklist is good enough and, if the booklet is huge, then I'll be TRULY satisfied...
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Reply #1167 posted 08/18/09 6:53am

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05) Holiday - LP Version (TIC version is better, in my opinion)

Definitely not.Especially that drum break in the end destroys the song
08) Everybody - LP Edit (yeah, the edit version was necessary smile )

Well probably that's the only song where a remixed version (from YCD) does not actually take away from the song. The original version is great also so no complains
09) Like A Prayer - Immaculate Collection Version (good choice, TIC version is somewhat more famous)

Em no way. The IC version sounds horribly dated, turns the song into an average eurocamp dance song and takes off the Prince guitar. Plus most people know the original version from the video not this one
17) Justify My Love - LP Version (unessential, I don't know if this means TIC will be out of print soon [i]

I hope its prize will go down soon. My copy is scratched at the only song not included here: Rescue Me lol. But no JML is not unessential. It is one of her more memorable moments (I will not say song because most people remember it for the video)

CD 2:
01) Dress You Up - LP Edit [i](odd choice to start the album; anyway I'm so glad this song finally made it)

Me too. But I would rather see the S&S tour remix here.
10) Miles Away - LP Edit ([i]pffff, give me Give it to me anyday...)

Yeah it would make more sense for a Greatest Hits compilation but I like Miles Away much more. Plus it did change Madonna's world. First single since she had a hit that didn't make the UK Top 20 lol.
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Also, I like the fact that the track-list is not chronological; don't know why, but I like it lol

I'd much rather have it chronological. But I can see why it's not. Probably to hide the fact that the whole Immaculate Collection is here
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Reply #1168 posted 08/18/09 7:01am

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JoeTyler said:

Well, if the track-list is official, then I'm gonna talk about it, let's see lol

CD 1:
01) Hung Up - LP Version (a bold and exciting choice to start the album nod)
02) Music - LP Version
03) Vogue - Immaculate Collection Version
04) 4 Minutes - LP Edit
05) Holiday - LP Version (TIC version is better, in my opinion)
06) Like A Virgin - Immaculate Collection Version (OK)
07) Into The Groove - LP Version (the 1985 original??? OH YEAH!!!! biggrin )
08) Everybody - LP Edit (yeah, the edit version was necessary smile )
09) Like A Prayer - Immaculate Collection Version (good choice, TIC version is somewhat more famous)
10) Ray Of Light - LP Version
11) Sorry - LP Edit (I'm so glad this song is finally included, it's one of her biggest european hits of the post-Music era)
12) Express Yourself - Immaculate Collection Version (fuck no! confused , LAP is WAY better, with all those horns...)
13) Open Your Heart - Immaculate Collection Version
14) Borderline - Immaculate Collection Version
15) Secret - LP Edit
16) Erotica - LP Edit
17) Justify My Love - LP Version (unessential, I don't know if this means TIC will be out of print soon...)
18) Celebrate

CD 2:
01) Dress You Up - LP Edit (odd choice to start the album; anyway I'm so glad this song finally made it)
02) Material Girl - LP Version
03) La Isla Bonita - LP Version
04) Papa Don't Preach - LP Version
05) Lucky Star - LP Edit
06) Burning Up - LP Version [i](YEAHH!!! biggrin ) cool

07) Crazy For You - Immaculate Collection Version (nod)
08) Who's That Girl - LP Version (finally! biggrin biggrin )
09) Frozen - LP Version
10) Miles Away - LP Edit (pffff, give me Give it to me anyday...)
11) Take A Bow - LP Version ( confused the long LP version please...)
12) Beautiful Stranger - LP Version
13) Hollywood - LP Version (worst track of the entire compilation, and where the hell is American Life?? eek )
14) Die Another Day - LP Version ( biggrin )
15) Don't Tell Me - LP Edit
16) Live To Tell - LP Version ( confused the long LP version is way betterd)
17) Cherish - Immaculate Collection Version
18) Revolver


I think it's a good track-list, not perfect, but decent and above all, EXCITING, with some surprises here and there; yeah, there's no Angel or Causing a commotion, but we have Burning Up, Everybody and Dress you up, which are much more hip cool . And there's also Who's that girl, so for that alone we should be happy biggrin On the other hand, the omission of Rain and Deeper and Deeper is a major insult, considering that Hollywood (pfff) and Miles Away are included.
Also, I like the fact that the track-list is not chronological; don't know why, but I like it lol
Conclusion: despite Rain and D&D, this tracklist is good enough and, if the booklet is huge, then I'll be TRULY satisfied...
[Edited 8/18/09 6:35am]



the thing is, they could have easily added both of those songs (or any 2 songs), if they'd used the single versions for everything. they'd have 6 extra minutes on the first disc and over 4 minutes on the second disc.
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Reply #1169 posted 08/18/09 7:02am

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AlexdeParis said:


Yeah, but it's much closer than the album version. smile The 7" Remix/Edit is slightly different.



errr... I think there's some confusion here. There is a "7" Remix" which is almost exactly like the album version but with the bass brought up and a few other elements added in. that was the main single mix. that's the one that was a hit in 1989/1990 before TIC came out. then there is a "remix/edit" that was on the b-side of the promo that is an edit of the remix and is similar to the video remix. that version (the video verson) wasn't really on the radio in 89/90.

Not around here. The radio played a remixed version where I live.
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