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Printablemidnightmover said: PatrickS77 said: Oh, finally rearing your head... have you been so shocked about the concert announcement?? Took you almost a month!
How can he do that, when he has lost his voice? He can put together a decent vocal performance in the studio by recording each line separately and patching it all together. Floetry has described how hard she had to work with him to get a decent vocal for "Butterflies". As long as he actually bothers to do this, I'll be satisfied. It's a lot more than he's done for his previous tours. | |
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ehuffnsd said: eireboy34 said: Patrick Leonard did..... during Blonde Ambition when he was going through a divorce? cause he was the MD for The Virgin Tour and Who's That Girl. Mike McKnight left the U2 tour to work on DWT. No The Girlie Tour...when he say the stage plans for the show with the band being hidden he knew it was no longer about the music and he turned Madge down. | |
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I remember in the Martin Bashir documentary he was singing some song as he was coming out of the store with his kids. I think it might of been Smile. All I remember is thinking what a beautiful voice he had and this was before I was a fan so there was no lowering of standards or anything. I know it was just a few lines but if he could sound that beautiful just walking and not concentrating I don't see why he can't do it while sitting on a stool for the tour or something. | |
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Arnotts said: I remember in the Martin Bashir documentary he was singing some song as he was coming out of the store with his kids. I think it might of been Smile. All I remember is thinking what a beautiful voice he had and this was before I was a fan so there was no lowering of standards or anything. I know it was just a few lines but if he could sound that beautiful just walking and not concentrating I don't see why he can't do it while sitting on a stool for the tour or something.
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Arnotts said: I remember in the Martin Bashir documentary he was singing some song as he was coming out of the store with his kids. I think it might of been Smile. All I remember is thinking what a beautiful voice he had and this was before I was a fan so there was no lowering of standards or anything. I know it was just a few lines but if he could sound that beautiful just walking and not concentrating I don't see why he can't do it while sitting on a stool for the tour or something.
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eireboy34 said: Arnotts said: I remember in the Martin Bashir documentary he was singing some song as he was coming out of the store with his kids. I think it might of been Smile. All I remember is thinking what a beautiful voice he had and this was before I was a fan so there was no lowering of standards or anything. I know it was just a few lines but if he could sound that beautiful just walking and not concentrating I don't see why he can't do it while sitting on a stool for the tour or something.
Dream on..... Well tell me whats the difference? I don't get if hes losing his voice and can't sing properly why he can sing a song beautifully just walking around. | |
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Arnotts said: eireboy34 said: Dream on..... Well tell me whats the difference? I don't get if hes losing his voice and can't sing properly why he can sing a song beautifully just walking around. As I said, dream on....it's good to dream...  | |
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eireboy34 said: Arnotts said: Well tell me whats the difference? I don't get if hes losing his voice and can't sing properly why he can sing a song beautifully just walking around. As I said, dream on....it's good to dream... It's strange that you can't answer the question. | |
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eireboy34 said: ehuffnsd said: during Blonde Ambition when he was going through a divorce? cause he was the MD for The Virgin Tour and Who's That Girl. Mike McKnight left the U2 tour to work on DWT. No The Girlie Tour...when he say the stage plans for the show with the band being hidden he knew it was no longer about the music and he turned Madge down. he wasn't offered a spot on the Girlie Show. he had nothing to do with Erotica or it's surronding projects, and the band wasn't hidden. Nice try though. [Edited 4/1/09 10:12am] You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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eireboy34 said: ehuffnsd said: during Blonde Ambition when he was going through a divorce? cause he was the MD for The Virgin Tour and Who's That Girl. Mike McKnight left the U2 tour to work on DWT. No The Girlie Tour...when he say the stage plans for the show with the band being hidden he knew it was no longer about the music and he turned Madge down. Oh sure, that's why months after the Girlie Show, he co-wrote and co-produced a brand new track with Madonna. And yes, the band wasn't hidden and that show featured some of the most interesting live music by a Madonna band... | |
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Annika said: midnightmover said: He can put together a decent vocal performance in the studio by recording each line separately and patching it all together. Floetry has described how hard she had to work with him to get a decent vocal for "Butterflies". As long as he actually bothers to do this, I'll be satisfied. It's a lot more than he's done for his previous tours. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming he'll be smart and do that. He did it for portions of MSG '01, so he's not averse to it. He'll probably do the same here. Mix up re-recordings, old recordings and (maybe) some genuine live singing here and there. Arnotts said: I remember in the Martin Bashir documentary he was singing some song as he was coming out of the store with his kids. I think it might of been Smile. All I remember is thinking what a beautiful voice he had and this was before I was a fan so there was no lowering of standards or anything. I know it was just a few lines but if he could sound that beautiful just walking and not concentrating I don't see why he can't do it while sitting on a stool for the tour or something.
There is a world of difference between softly singing a few lines acapella and projecting your voice over music for a whole song. I heard Britney Spears sing a few lines of Madonna's "Like A Prayer" acapella in an interview and she sounded good (soulless, but competent). But the one time I actually heard her sing live on stage she sounded ATROCIOUS! Couldn't hold a note to save her life. When you're singing full-voice any weaknesses in your voice will be exposed, and your man's been exposed repeatedly over the years. [Edited 4/1/09 12:35pm] “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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midnightmover said: PatrickS77 said: Oh, finally rearing your head... have you been so shocked about the concert announcement?? Took you almost a month!
Aaah, how sweet. You know almost exactly how long I've been away. You've been counting the days, haven't you?  Well, since we now only have two MJ threads it's kinda easy to notice one prominent stink's absence! It's understandable though, that MJ's announcement of his shows very much pissed on your parade and that you had to lick your wounds! 
How can he do that, when he has lost his voice?
He can put together a decent vocal performance in the studio by recording each line separately and patching it all together. Floetry has described how hard she had to work with him to get a decent vocal for "Butterflies". [Edited 4/1/09 4:21am] Yeah, I'm sure they had to work very hard with him!  Again, if there is no voice, he would have a hard time recording anything! And it's not like Butterflies is the easiest song to sing, especially with all the background vocals![Edited 4/1/09 10:51am] | |
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Rodney said: Now let's be fair here, that "i'll be there" performance was actually one of hist worst on the history tour...but
just listen how sick he sounds when he's just saying his brothers names at the end. I do think his voice has gotten worse over the years but still, when a person has a cold, theres nothing you can do than stay home or in mjs case here, sing. he does surprsise me sometimes... No, it's not. He did far worse versions in the 1997 leg of the tour. A full year after that clip. Are you suggesting he had a cold that lasted all year?
And for the record, he didn't sound too hot on the Dangerous Tour either. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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PatrickS77 said: midnightmover said: Aaah, how sweet. You know almost exactly how long I've been away. You've been counting the days, haven't you?
Well, since we now only have two MJ threads it's kinda easy to notice one prominent stink's absence! It's understandable though, that MJ's announcement of his shows very much pissed on your parade and that you had to lick your wounds! LOL, I see you're just as big a fool as ever. I hate to burst your bubble son, but I'd already been away for a full two weeks when Jacko made his announcement. I've been busy. Your estimate of how long I'd been gone was incorrect, but I didn't want to ruin a good joke by pointing that out.
PatrickS77 said: midnightmover said: He can put together a decent vocal performance in the studio by recording each line separately and patching it all together. Floetry has described how hard she had to work with him to get a decent vocal for "Butterflies". [Edited 4/1/09 4:21am] Yeah, I'm sure they had to work very hard with him! As usual, you are dodging the facts. Floetry said she had to work to get him to sing in key, in time and with more power. She said it herself, and if you've heard his vocals on the History Tour, that should come as no surprise. Again, if there is no voice, he would have a hard time recording anything!
Michael has not lost his voice to the extent that he can't still patch together a respectable vocal in the studio. He'll never be able to record vocals as good as in his heyday, but he can still patch together a non-embarrassing performance by spending hours in there. He's been doing that for years. The days of him recording complete vocals of two or three songs in an afternoon as he did for the Off The Wall album are long gone. Surely, even someone as naive as yourself should know that studio techniques can disguise vocal shortcomings. Just compare Madonna's live vocals with her studio ones, and you should recognise that right away. [Edited 4/1/09 12:40pm] “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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WACKO JACKO has called on the services of oddball pal DAVID COPPERFIELD to make his O2 shows something to remember.
Michael, as he likes to be known to the young ’uns, has challenged the man who once made the Statue of Liberty disappear to help him stun the audience with mindblowing magic. They have met at Copperfield’s Californian HQ and drawn up plans for highwire routines and a levitation trick which will be the centrepiece of the show. A host of other smaller plans are being pieced together, too. Orders have gone in for more than 100 mirrors and enough dry ice to last a Blackpool nightclub into the next century. Shamone. A source said: “Jacko and David have been close pals for years. “Michael is a massive fan of magic and has been to see all the big illusionists in Vegas over the years. “He has some very clear plans on what he wants the show to include and feels David is the man to help make them happen. It’s not just about music for Michael, it’s about the show. “The levitation stunt will be something special.” Rehearsals for Jacko’s tour start next month. It’s pretty clear to everyone that the 50-year-old has a lot of preparation to do before he will be physically fit enough to perform. Advertisement And by the sound of things he’s going to have a seriously complicated concept on his hands by the time the first night kicks off at the east London venue on July 8. If David Copperfield is involved I hope it doesn’t become one big smoke-and-mirrors disguise hiding the man himself from the spotlight. If I don’t see the moonwalk I’ll be leaving seriously unimpressed. Copperfield has levitated over the Grand Canyon and walked through the Great Wall Of China. So if anyone can disguise the fading Pop King’s physical weaknesses, it’s him. I revealed last month how Jacko had invited the cast of Harry Potter along as his VIP guests on the opening night. They had better bring that invisibility cape, just in case... http://www.thesun.co.uk/s...352810.ece Yes, I know its from the Sun tabloid, but I could see something like this happening...you know Mikey likes his magic! MJ L.O.V.E: https://www.facebook.com/...689&type=2 / YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/us...nderSilent | |
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LiveToTell86 said: eireboy34 said: No The Girlie Tour...when he say the stage plans for the show with the band being hidden he knew it was no longer about the music and he turned Madge down. Oh sure, that's why months after the Girlie Show, he co-wrote and co-produced a brand new track with Madonna. And yes, the band wasn't hidden and that show featured some of the most interesting live music by a Madonna band... Not disputing any of the above! Great show!! Just quoting Patrick from Q magazine! The man has the right to not want to do the tour but then write a song with Madge!! Chill!!!!! Who cares anyway?!! | |
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midnightmover said:[quote] PatrickS77 said: As usual, you are dodging the facts. Floetry said she had to work to get him to sing in key, in time and with more power. She said it herself, and if you've heard his vocals on the History Tour, that should come as no surprise. Again, if there is no voice, he would have a hard time recording anything!
Michael has not lost his voice to the extent that he can't still patch together a respectable vocal in the studio. He'll never be able to record vocals as good as in his heyday, but he can still patch together a non-embarrassing performance by spending hours in there. He's been doing that for years. The days of him recording complete vocals of two or three songs in an afternoon as he did for the Off The Wall album are long gone. Surely, even someone as naive as yourself should know that studio techniques can disguise vocal shortcomings. Just compare Madonna's live vocals with her studio ones, and you should recognise that right away. [Edited 4/1/09 12:40pm] what are you trying to prove? that Mj lost his voice, ok,thats your opinion, we get it , move on... I don't know where you get stories from , what Floetry said doesn't hint in anyway that Mj lost his voice, in fact and the truth is that Mj invited floetry to studio to let them listen to the final product of "butterflies" and guess what? when they heard it one of the two girls started to cry , she was shocked how Mj took the song to a whole diiferent level... Maybe Mj's voice on live performances is not as good as it was but to say that MJ lost his voice is the dumbest comment I have ever heard.. [Edited 4/1/09 16:15pm] MICHAEL JACKSON
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seeingvoices12 said: midnightmover said: Michael has not lost his voice to the extent that he can't still patch together a respectable vocal in the studio. He'll never be able to record vocals as good as in his heyday, but he can still patch together a non-embarrassing performance by spending hours in there. He's been doing that for years. The days of him recording complete vocals of two or three songs in an afternoon as he did for the Off The Wall album are long gone. Surely, even someone as naive as yourself should know that studio techniques can disguise vocal shortcomings. Just compare Madonna's live vocals with her studio ones, and you should recognise that right away. [Edited 4/1/09 12:40pm] what are you trying to prove? that Mj lost his voice, ok,thats your opinion, we get it , move on... I don't know where you get stories from , what Floetry said doesn't hint in anyway that Mj lost his voice, in fact and the truth is that Mj invited floetry to studio to let them listen to the final product of "butterflies" and guess what? when they heard it one of the two girls started to cry , she was shocked how Mj took the song to a whole diiferent level... Maybe Mj's voice on live performances is not as good as it was but to say that MJ lost his voice is the dumbest comment I have ever heard.. [Edited 4/1/09 16:15pm] Can someone provide a link where Floetry says they had trouble getting MJ to sing on key, with power, etc? I've searched, but I couldn't find anything. | |
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midnightmover said:
As usual, you are dodging the facts. Floetry said she had to work to get him to sing in key, in time and with more power. She said it herself, and if you've heard his vocals on the History Tour, that should come as no surprise. If people are going to make statements attributed to artists or reports can you please provide the source. Swa "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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Tran said: seeingvoices12 said: what are you trying to prove? that Mj lost his voice, ok,thats your opinion, we get it , move on... I don't know where you get stories from , what Floetry said doesn't hint in anyway that Mj lost his voice, in fact and the truth is that Mj invited floetry to studio to let them listen to the final product of "butterflies" and guess what? when they heard it one of the two girls started to cry , she was shocked how Mj took the song to a whole diiferent level... Maybe Mj's voice on live performances is not as good as it was but to say that MJ lost his voice is the dumbest comment I have ever heard.. [Edited 4/1/09 16:15pm] Can someone provide a link where Floetry says they had trouble getting MJ to sing on key, with power, etc? I've searched, but I couldn't find anything. I would like that too. It's not that I don't believe it but I would like to hear exactly what was said. | |
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Swa said: If people are going to make statements attributed to artists or reports can you please provide the source. Swa I'm sure he can't! [Edited 4/1/09 23:32pm] | |
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Tran said: seeingvoices12 said: what are you trying to prove? that Mj lost his voice, ok,thats your opinion, we get it , move on... I don't know where you get stories from , what Floetry said doesn't hint in anyway that Mj lost his voice, in fact and the truth is that Mj invited floetry to studio to let them listen to the final product of "butterflies" and guess what? when they heard it one of the two girls started to cry , she was shocked how Mj took the song to a whole diiferent level... Maybe Mj's voice on live performances is not as good as it was but to say that MJ lost his voice is the dumbest comment I have ever heard.. [Edited 4/1/09 16:15pm] Can someone provide a link where Floetry says they had trouble getting MJ to sing on key, with power, etc? I've searched, but I couldn't find anything. I remember being told this story back in 2001 or 2002 from a long-time fan. I never questioned the authenticity or cared to back then because I trusted the source and didn’t find it to be a big deal one way or the other. Is it really newsworthy? But over the years I've never seen an editorial piece revealing this info. It could just be a rumor or a true story that got out and got spread around but it’s been around for awhile. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: Tran said: Can someone provide a link where Floetry says they had trouble getting MJ to sing on key, with power, etc? I've searched, but I couldn't find anything. I remember being told this story back in 2001 or 2002 from a long-time fan. I never questioned the authenticity or cared to back then because I trusted the source and didn’t find it to be a big deal one way or the other. Is it really newsworthy? But over the years I've never seen an editorial piece revealing this info. It could just be a rumor or a true story that got out and got spread around but it’s been around for awhile. of course you can only find those kinds of dumb rumors on the haters book. I don't remember that floetry said that MJ's voice was out of key, even some orgers who said those dumb assumptions don't have their sources to back it up...they just heard? when? I wanna see it, she was trying to show Mj how to sing...what a laugh. and what the hell out of key means? out of key is when you can't sing to the point you go out of control, it means you cannot control your voice most of times, every rational person who knows about music knows that Mj has an impeccable timing when he hits a note in the studio, that what distinguished Mj from other artists , his timing Now, what I said was completely the truth, MJ invited those british girls to the studio and one of them started to cry when she heard the final product. That story came out right after the release of the "invinicble" album on billboard...An interview they did with billboard. MICHAEL JACKSON
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seeingvoices12 said: JackieBlue said: I remember being told this story back in 2001 or 2002 from a long-time fan. I never questioned the authenticity or cared to back then because I trusted the source and didn’t find it to be a big deal one way or the other. Is it really newsworthy? But over the years I've never seen an editorial piece revealing this info. It could just be a rumor or a true story that got out and got spread around but it’s been around for awhile. of course you can only find those kinds of dumb rumors on the haters book. I don't remember that floetry said that MJ's voice was out of key, even some orgers who said those dumb assumptions don't have their sources to back it up...they just heard? when? I wanna see it, she was trying to show Mj how to sing...what a laugh. and what the hell out of key means? out of key is when you can't sing to the point you go out of control, it means you cannot control your voice most of times, every rational person who knows about music knows that Mj has an impeccable timing when he hits a note in the studio, that what distinguished Mj from other artists , his timing Now, what I said was completely the truth, MJ invited those british girls to the studio and one of them started to cry when she heard the final product. That story came out right after the release of the "invinicble" album on billboard...An interview they did with billboard. At the time that I heard it, I didn’t take it as a hater story just a sort of behind the scenes peek of what goes on and of course it wasn’t quite as troubling as it’s been made out. It was just something about Michael struggling to find the right key which is not uncommon. can't recall if it was lead or background vocals but Marsha worked with him on it and he got it. The end. But of course now it has an ominous when you add in that MJ has no voice, etc. I just asked my friend about it but he said he’d have to dig in his brain for the memory Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: seeingvoices12 said: of course you can only find those kinds of dumb rumors on the haters book. I don't remember that floetry said that MJ's voice was out of key, even some orgers who said those dumb assumptions don't have their sources to back it up...they just heard? when? I wanna see it, she was trying to show Mj how to sing...what a laugh. and what the hell out of key means? out of key is when you can't sing to the point you go out of control, it means you cannot control your voice most of times, every rational person who knows about music knows that Mj has an impeccable timing when he hits a note in the studio, that what distinguished Mj from other artists , his timing Now, what I said was completely the truth, MJ invited those british girls to the studio and one of them started to cry when she heard the final product. That story came out right after the release of the "invinicble" album on billboard...An interview they did with billboard. At the time that I heard it, I didn’t take it as a hater story just a sort of behind the scenes peek of what goes on and of course it wasn’t quite as troubling as it’s been made out. It was just something about Michael struggling to find the right key which is not uncommon. can't recall if it was lead or background vocals but Marsha worked with him on it and he got it. The end. But of course now it has an ominous when you add in that MJ has no voice, etc. I just asked my friend about it but he said he’d have to dig in his brain for the memory The story is a nothing but a rumor, I don't remember seeing this stroy, what happened is what i actually told you, what i don't like is how some people see the lie and stick with it and repeat it over and over again....and most laughable thing is when some orgers use it a tool in order to prove that Mj lost his voice. I didn't say that Mj is god who doesn't do mistakes, and its quite common that some artists go out of key when they record songs , but generally MJ has an impeccable timing when he records tracks, he is a monster in the studio, using that excuse to hint that Mj lost his voice is dumb. and again, this story is nothing but rumor useless a person submits a valid reliable source The story so far has been somewhat dramatic; Jill Scott, Musiq, Jazzy Jeff... Imagine how the girls felt when they were told by Jeff that Michael Jackson had left a message on his answering machine, saying, "that Floetry stuff is really cool". What followed was a request for them to write a song for him. "We were like what? This is the epitome. This is what's it's all about. I remember watching this man do the moonwalk, we said to each other... okay, we can retire now!" The girls subsequently gave MJ 'Butterflies' which ended up on his 'Invincible' album and featured Marsha's backing vocals
http://www.thesituation.c...oetry.html [Edited 4/2/09 10:40am] MICHAEL JACKSON
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seeingvoices12 said: JackieBlue said: At the time that I heard it, I didn’t take it as a hater story just a sort of behind the scenes peek of what goes on and of course it wasn’t quite as troubling as it’s been made out. It was just something about Michael struggling to find the right key which is not uncommon. can't recall if it was lead or background vocals but Marsha worked with him on it and he got it. The end. But of course now it has an ominous when you add in that MJ has no voice, etc. I just asked my friend about it but he said he’d have to dig in his brain for the memory The story is a nothing but a rumor, I don't remember seeing this stroy, what happened is what i actually told you, what i don't like is how some people see the lie and stick with it and repeat it over and over again....and most laughable thing is when some orgers use it a tool in order to prove that Mj lost his voice. I didn't say that Mj is god who doesn't do mistakes, and its quite common that some artists go out of key when they record songs , but generally MJ has an impeccable timing when he records tracks, he is a monster in the studio, using that excuse to hint that Mj lost his voice is dumb. and again, this story is nothing but rumor useless a person submits a valid reliable source I don't doubt what you stated as I've read the articles with Floetry. There's no source because it was never an editorial piece to begin with and yes, it more than likely is a rumor but even if wasn't it makes no difference to me. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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seeingvoices12 said: midnightmover said: Michael has not lost his voice to the extent that he can't still patch together a respectable vocal in the studio. He'll never be able to record vocals as good as in his heyday, but he can still patch together a non-embarrassing performance by spending hours in there. He's been doing that for years. The days of him recording complete vocals of two or three songs in an afternoon as he did for the Off The Wall album are long gone. Surely, even someone as naive as yourself should know that studio techniques can disguise vocal shortcomings. Just compare Madonna's live vocals with her studio ones, and you should recognise that right away. [Edited 4/1/09 12:40pm] what are you trying to prove? that Mj lost his voice, ok,thats your opinion, we get it , move on... I don't know where you get stories from , what Floetry said doesn't hint in anyway that Mj lost his voice, in fact and the truth is that Mj invited floetry to studio to let them listen to the final product of "butterflies" and guess what? when they heard it one of the two girls started to cry , she was shocked how Mj took the song to a whole diiferent level... Maybe Mj's voice on live performances is not as good as it was but to say that MJ lost his voice is the dumbest comment I have ever heard.. [Edited 4/1/09 16:15pm] The dumbest comment you've ever heard??!! 
You must live a very sheltered life!!!! 
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eireboy34 said: seeingvoices12 said: what are you trying to prove? that Mj lost his voice, ok,thats your opinion, we get it , move on... I don't know where you get stories from , what Floetry said doesn't hint in anyway that Mj lost his voice, in fact and the truth is that Mj invited floetry to studio to let them listen to the final product of "butterflies" and guess what? when they heard it one of the two girls started to cry , she was shocked how Mj took the song to a whole diiferent level... Maybe Mj's voice on live performances is not as good as it was but to say that MJ lost his voice is the dumbest comment I have ever heard.. [Edited 4/1/09 16:15pm] The dumbest comment you've ever heard??!!
You must live a very sheltered life!!!!
Let's see what happens for the concerts.....as I've already said, we can dream. 
One of the dumbest comment I have ever heard Don't worry MICHAEL JACKSON
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Floetry made her comments on a 2002 British documentary. It was shown on BBC2. Any MJ fan living in the UK at the time should have seen it. I can't recall the name of the documentary, but I'm sure bboy87 (or any UK fan) will have that information.
BTW, the fact that so many obsessive, hardcore MJ fans have not heard Floetry's comments speaks volumes about how hardcore fans can COMPLETELY IGNORE unfavourable facts. Tons of MJ fans in Britain will have seen the same comments I did, but they've obviously chosen not to pass the information on. You saw the same thing after 1997 when Janet Jackson and her secret husband Rene dropped the bombshell that he had been ghost-writing her songs. This was a HUGE revelation, but to listen to Janet fans talking you would never have known it even happened. It doesn't matter how big the elephant is. Hardcore fans will cover their eyes and pretend it's not there. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Marsha thingy from Floetry didn't say that on a UK TV documentary. I think it was a magazine interview. The documentary you saw was 'The Essential Michael Jackson' from late 2002. It was part of a series of BBC2 docs during a Black Entertainment History month they had on several entertainers (I think Will Smith, Marvin Gaye and Oprah followed). That documentary is one of the best I've ever seen of the MANY that have been aired on MJ in the last 10 years.
She did contribute on it though. I should try and convert my VHS to DVD as it's an amazing one. Oddly one of the other good ones was Channel 5's 'Michael Jackson's Face'. The crap about surgery with the weird "expert" waving a pencil around pictures of MJ as a child is shite, but the biographical stuff is very good. What Marsha did say on it was how weird it was producing MJ, having to direct him to sing louder/softer or a certain way, then how listening to the end product, he took her hand and said "we did it". I did hear a story about MJ layering the vocals and taking 3 weeks to produce the song but that wasn't from her. [Edited 4/2/09 12:06pm] | |
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