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Reply #180 posted 10/25/07 7:01am

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Reply #181 posted 10/25/07 7:05am

cla30

wasitgood4u said:

Cool thread - I guess you have a point, but maybe I'm still too stuck in the 90s to recognize it!
PPL like me who grew up in the 80s were sick of that over-packaged commercial fluff that overtook everything (S.A.W. - Kylie, Rick Astley - Bros!!!, NKOTB etc etc) and the early nineties felt like quality music was finally getting some exposure.
The late 90s backlash tho was worse than the 80s and made me switch off altogether. And I guess I never really re-connected...

Why has noone mentioned The Breeders? and Sonic Youth (altho they wer 80s alternative remnants)?
Stone Roses were upbeat depressing - as was all of Britpop really...


I loved The Breeders! I play Last Splash at least once a month -ahhh my college days. Remember Lush. That band ruled! Cool Thing, Dirty Boots Yeah! Also, Blur was just great Britpop. Gotta pull out my 90s CD's now.
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Reply #182 posted 10/25/07 7:14am

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the ODB remix of Fantasy must've cheered you up a bit then Cinnie razz
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Reply #183 posted 10/25/07 7:28am

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Strangely in the 90's I didn't listen to Pop music (madonna and other shit!). I was a fanatic for these acts:

The Cranberries
Garbage
Nirvana
Pearl Jam
The Smashing Pumpkins
Alanis Morissette
Marilyn Manson

Then I went to college and I became a pop music whore!


Damm...I was a hipster in the 90's...now I'm a Joke! sad
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Reply #184 posted 10/25/07 9:13am

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Cinnie said:

I was on this thread that went on a tangent about how stars dress boring today, and saw this:

VikFoxx said:

i blame the grunge scene for making things so boring dress wise in the rock world and even tho grunge is dead it really did have an effect on the complete package in rock


nod I agree: Not only was grunge ANTI FASHION, but the genre was responsible for the most depressing music known to man. It seemed like by 1994, it influenced most recording artists to sweat that "alternative" market by releasing their most JOYLESS MUSIC of their entire discography.

For years I thought this was something I sought out on my own because it was my angst teen years, but looking back, totally depressing singles and non-dressing recording artists were the order of the day! Magazine covers, MTV, you name it.

This phenonmena could not be contained though. Even in rap you saw the removal of what I call "Happy Rap" and somewhere by 1992, smiling was outlawed, and everyone became hard as fuck. This totally paralleled the age of moping grunge stars.

Today, it lives on through emo music and post-ironic gangsta rap (which I can't believe anyone still records or listens to).

Great records but also double edged swords when it came to commercializing misery.



Excellent observations and very true.
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Reply #185 posted 10/25/07 9:27am

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well, from a dance/house perspective i was eating sh*t up with acts like Dee-lite, Ulta Nata, Dajae, Barbara Tucker, Joy Cardwell and Lil India....

I don't know what sh*t you all were smoking but i loved my lil slice of the 90's pie.


Yeah, but we're gay though and gay people have been throwing down harder than straight people for decades. I was also loving the hell out of the house music scene in the early 1990s with groups like Black Box, M People, 2 In A Room, Robin S., Crystal Waters, Cartouche, The 49ers, Cajmere, etc.

Like disco a decade earlier, straight people had also gotten into house music a little bit in the early 1990s and abandoned it. We continued with it even after they abandoned it and were having a hell of a good time. The problem started when a lot of black people abandoned house music. Black people are the ones that make things funky and when they left house music, then it started sounding all techno, acid, trance or whatever the hell it's called.

Gay people usually grow up listening to what's in the mainstream because they are too young to go out and experience the underground gay scene. My generation grew up on disco and funk so house music was right up our alley because it was uptempo and funky just like what we had grown up on. However, the younger black gay generation had grown up on mainstream midtempo shit hop and when they got old enough to go out to gay clubs, the midtempo shit hop eventually came along with them and ruined the scene of the whole club. Nowadays, the black gay people my age go to the white gay club because acid techno trance is a lot more tolerable than midtempo shit hop.
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Reply #186 posted 10/25/07 12:23pm

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vainandy said:



Yeah, but we're gay though and gay people have been throwing down harder than straight people for decades. I was also loving the hell out of the house music scene in the early 1990s with groups like Black Box, M People, 2 In A Room, Robin S., Crystal Waters, Cartouche, The 49ers, Cajmere, etc.

Like disco a decade earlier, straight people had also gotten into house music a little bit in the early 1990s and abandoned it. We continued with it even after they abandoned it and were having a hell of a good time. The problem started when a lot of black people abandoned house music. Black people are the ones that make things funky and when they left house music, then it started sounding all techno, acid, trance or whatever the hell it's called.

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PREACH ON BRUTHA!!!

I cannot stand acid - trance - it's thin and sounds like someone's experiment that lasts 10 minutes...how can anyone even tell the difference between songs sometimes?
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Reply #187 posted 10/25/07 12:38pm

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paisleypark4 said:

vainandy said:



Yeah, but we're gay though and gay people have been throwing down harder than straight people for decades. I was also loving the hell out of the house music scene in the early 1990s with groups like Black Box, M People, 2 In A Room, Robin S., Crystal Waters, Cartouche, The 49ers, Cajmere, etc.

Like disco a decade earlier, straight people had also gotten into house music a little bit in the early 1990s and abandoned it. We continued with it even after they abandoned it and were having a hell of a good time. The problem started when a lot of black people abandoned house music. Black people are the ones that make things funky and when they left house music, then it started sounding all techno, acid, trance or whatever the hell it's called.

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PREACH ON BRUTHA!!!

I cannot stand acid - trance - it's thin and sounds like someone's experiment that lasts 10 minutes...how can anyone even tell the difference between songs sometimes?


The songs are too repetitive. You could catch a song in progess and not know if you are listening to the beginning, middle, or end of the song because it sounds the same from beginning to end. Most of the songs are so fast that you would have to be high on drugs to dance to it. Most people on the dance floor look like hopping rabbits. Every now and then, a song might have a nice beat but the fact that it sounds the same from beginning to end which makes it get boring real quick.
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Reply #188 posted 10/25/07 2:24pm

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Cinnie said:

Duran Duran became depressing to listen to AND look at.

What's was with that f**king hangover everyone had?



Yeah that's right! Nick Rhodes started toning down his makeup around that time. I miss the crazy, outlandish, uniqueness of the 80's.
"Funkyslsistah… you ain't funky at all, you just a little ol' prude"!
"It's just my imagination, once again running away with me."
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Reply #189 posted 10/25/07 2:43pm

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PricelessHo said:

the ODB remix of Fantasy must've cheered you up a bit then Cinnie razz


Totally! biggrin

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Reply #190 posted 10/25/07 3:23pm

GangstaFam

Sorry Cin, I love ya and everything, but I can't get with this at all.

The 90's were heaven for me. The 00's depress me.
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Reply #191 posted 10/25/07 4:07pm

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ummm...there were a few 90's releases that i enjoy whistling


























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and not to mention

Betty Boo
Deee~Lite
CeCe Peniston
the Shamen
etc....

and all the bangin' club tunes!! woot!
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Reply #192 posted 10/25/07 4:57pm

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GangstaFam said:

Sorry Cin, I love ya and everything, but I can't get with this at all.

The 90's were heaven for me. The 00's depress me.


We still like you... razz
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Reply #193 posted 10/25/07 5:05pm

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Maybe it was all the hell I went through in that decade but the 90s is by far my favorite musical decade. BY FAR. nod
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Reply #194 posted 10/25/07 5:14pm

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well what about the late 90's
you have the spice girls
you have Britney spears, backstreet boys, nsync, aqua, hanson, hooty and the blow fish, sugar ray, even old christina aguilera, destiny's child, jlo, TLC fanmail, Janet Velvet rope, ...

I LOVED love the late 90's it was the best from 1997-2000... was awesome

i don't really know to much about the 90s cause i wasn't really allowed to watch tv, nor listen to radio.... and i was a kid.. and i was outside in the woods, at the park, creek, pond, rollerblading, looking for animals, just outside all day.. so i didn't really know about music nor rap until like 1998.. but i do remember a few puff daddy songs.. he even had good music.. actually the best rap music back then
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Reply #195 posted 10/25/07 5:23pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Maybe it was all the hell I went through in that decade but the 90s is by far my favorite musical decade. BY FAR. nod


I wonder why? razz

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Reply #196 posted 10/25/07 5:29pm

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vainandy said:



The songs are too repetitive. You could catch a song in progess and not know if you are listening to the beginning, middle, or end of the song because it sounds the same from beginning to end. Most of the songs are so fast that you would have to be high on drugs to dance to it. Most people on the dance floor look like hopping rabbits. Every now and then, a song might have a nice beat but the fact that it sounds the same from beginning to end which makes it get boring real quick.
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YES worship Im glad some1 said it. I felt bad for dissing that type of music..BUT NOT NOW.


at about the late 90's
you have the spice girls
you have Britney spears, backstreet boys, nsync, aqua, hanson, hooty and the blow fish, sugar ray, even old christina aguilera, destiny's child, jlo, TLC fanmail, Janet Velvet rope, ...


Yeah really I think Cinne is focusing on more the 1991-1996 period.

96 saw the light of Backstreet and N*Sync. Things started picking up from there..and gangsta rap was going out the door when Missy and Puffy came about.
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Reply #197 posted 10/25/07 5:35pm

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i guess i don't find politically or socially conscious music to be depressing. its far more invigorating to me than any of the upbeat disposable nonsense making the rounds during the same time (and now).

and bono hardly had to adjust to being an anti-star. quite the opposite, in fact. he took on his "the fly" persona and embraced celebrity all the while mocking it. bono had been writing serious (or depressing, as it's being called here) music since the creation of u2.
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Reply #198 posted 10/25/07 6:31pm

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vainandy said:
The songs are too repetitive. You could catch a song in progess and not know if you are listening to the beginning, middle, or end of the song because it sounds the same from beginning to end. Most of the songs are so fast that you would have to be high on drugs to dance to it. Most people on the dance floor look like hopping rabbits. Every now and then, a song might have a nice beat but the fact that it sounds the same from beginning to end which makes it get boring real quick.


I think people were high on drugs then. At that time though, they were really into ecstasy and waving glow sticks all over the dance floor. And as for the Kylie fan, I know she was still huge in Euroland and down under, but here in America, she was for all intents and purposes MIA and presumed dead until she released "Can't Get You Out Of My Head".

I guess my musical tastes were eclectic in the 90's, because I was into Mariah, grunge, gangsta rap, and house music all at the same time. However, while I appreciate the artistry of Dave Matthews and John Popper of Blues Traveler, I really couldn't get into the whole jam band scene which blew up in the mid-1990's. To me it seemed like a pale replacement for all of the Deadheads after Jerry Garcia died, and there were way too many upper middle class frat boy types that got into these bands. And speaking of dark music, after grunge blew away all of those cheesy 80's hair metal bands, what remained of metal got extremely dark, especially with the likes of Slayer, Pantera, Corrosion of Conformity, Cannibal Corpse and Deicide. A lot of that music was downright evil, and almost all of them sang like Cookie Monster getting a rusty pipe shove up his ass.

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Reply #199 posted 10/25/07 6:56pm

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sassybritches said:

i guess i don't find politically or socially conscious music to be depressing.


confuse








Is that what you consider The Chronic?
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Reply #200 posted 10/25/07 7:50pm

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Cinnie said:

sassybritches said:

i guess i don't find politically or socially conscious music to be depressing.


confuse








Is that what you consider The Chronic?

lol

not the chronic, lol! nirvana, pearl jam, radiohead...
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Reply #201 posted 10/25/07 8:29pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Maybe it was all the hell I went through in that decade but the 90s is by far my favorite musical decade. BY FAR. nod

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Reply #202 posted 10/26/07 12:20am

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Fantastic thread.
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Reply #203 posted 10/26/07 1:13pm

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GangstaFam said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Maybe it was all the hell I went through in that decade but the 90s is by far my favorite musical decade. BY FAR. nod

Here Here!!


1995 was probably the worst worst year to me.
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Reply #204 posted 10/26/07 5:47pm

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Moonbeam said:

Fantastic thread.

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Reply #205 posted 10/26/07 6:51pm

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GangstaFam said:

Moonbeam said:

Fantastic thread.

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Reply #206 posted 10/26/07 8:18pm

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Oh come on. You're forgetting all that fucking horrible big-hair corporate misogynistic homophobic asshole rock that was being promoted before Nirvana energised the whole industry with something honest, creative, powerful, sincere that did not give a fuck about anything. Yes Cobain destroyed himself because he was becoming the exact thing he hated and after that there was a vacuum that was left behind, so the industry switched to it's default setting of 'pop'.

Grunge reflected the time, 80s excess hangover, a shit economy, the emergence of prozac/anti-depressants...I was in love with that era, the late nineties boy band/Spice Girl thing is what made me want to slit my wrists.
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Reply #207 posted 10/26/07 11:41pm

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mynameisnotsusan said:

Oh come on. You're forgetting all that fucking horrible big-hair corporate misogynistic homophobic asshole rock that was being promoted before Nirvana energised the whole industry with something honest, creative, powerful, sincere that did not give a fuck about anything. Yes Cobain destroyed himself because he was becoming the exact thing he hated and after that there was a vacuum that was left behind, so the industry switched to it's default setting of 'pop'.

Grunge reflected the time, 80s excess hangover, a shit economy, the emergence of prozac/anti-depressants...I was in love with that era, the late nineties boy band/Spice Girl thing is what made me want to slit my wrists.

precisely!
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Reply #208 posted 10/26/07 11:43pm

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mynameisnotsusan said:

Oh come on. You're forgetting all that fucking horrible big-hair corporate misogynistic homophobic asshole rock that was being promoted before Nirvana energised the whole industry with something honest, creative, powerful, sincere that did not give a fuck about anything. Yes Cobain destroyed himself because he was becoming the exact thing he hated and after that there was a vacuum that was left behind, so the industry switched to it's default setting of 'pop'.

Grunge reflected the time, 80s excess hangover, a shit economy, the emergence of prozac/anti-depressants...I was in love with that era, the late nineties boy band/Spice Girl thing is what made me want to slit my wrists.


Give me hair metal over grunge any day. shrug
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Reply #209 posted 10/26/07 11:52pm

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Give me hair metal over grunge any day. shrug

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