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PrintableNajee said: I'm sorry, but whatever personal issues Britney Spears have are compounded by the fact she's an attention whore. Save the bleeding hearts for someone else.
I agree, but that's part of her "problem." Sure she is because without the media--good or bad, who is Britney, anyway? Maybe she's going to end-up being a casualty just like so many before her? I definitely think it's tragic EVEN THOUGH she has more money than I'll ever have in a lifetime. It's just a different type of tragedy. I don't even want to speculate about what might be wrong with her--if anything. Maybe she really believes her own hype? Maybe that's her only problem? But I do think this performance marks the end of MTV as we once knew it. I honestly don't think the public is buying the "lip-synching" pop artist anymore. Even Janet lacks a lot of credibility although her recent performances have been pretty good. In fact, during a different era, Janet might still have gotten rave reviews. Unfortunately though, with Janet I also "see" that it's just the "genre" appears to be archaic. With all the emphasis on live performing, it's like when an artist lip-synchs now--in spite of dancing his/her ass off, it's just not credible. I really think the public is looking for something more "authentic"(for lack of a better word) even if an artist's voice isn't all that great. From what I could tell, Britney actually had a GREAT opportunity to sing live last night because she didn't dance all that much. Maybe she was SUPPOSED to have sung live? I don't know, but the whole thing just looked a mess. As far as her weight,she could have worn something to coverup being out of shape because she really wasn't fat--more flabby than fat. Maybe it's just a natural result after having two babies? It's no big deal really except her costume just wasn't flattering. Who the hell told her she looked good in that ensemble? Worse, Britney herself couldn't tell she DIDN'T look so good in that get-up. And the weave? WTF? If her hair is short, why didn't she just wear it that way? Hell we've all seen her bald-headed (that is), so why not just wear her natural hair? It's like she is trying to be a version of her past self--like hanging on to it wwhen she can no longer BE that. She isn't the same Britney.. but that's not necessarily a bad thing. It's just that the sycophants want her to be the same so they can be employed... Unfortunately Britney doesn't have have the confidence (or the mental capability) to break from that former image. She could have tried to sing live.. come-out with her short hair-sans wig and a sexy but flattering outfit. Let the dancers carry most of the dancing, while Britney just maybe moved--like she ended up doing anyway. But Britney simply can't let-go. It's like she's frozen in time.. I think it's sad because I hate to see suffering in any way. And I think she's suffering--maybe from her own doing but also there is this dynamic at work--a vicious cycle. [Edited 9/10/07 7:18am] | |
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I remember several years ago,Britney was making snide comments about Mariah Carey's breakdown,saying "She believed her own hype"  I guess what goes around comes around. | |
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SoulAlive said: I remember several years ago,Britney was making snide comments about Mariah Carey's breakdown,saying "She believed her own hype"
I guess what goes around comes around.Please tell me she did not actually say that. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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Like I said, Britney Spears is an attention whore. Given her highly publicized personal drama, she should have been content just *SHOWING UP* as one of the people in the audience -- relatively low-key, but still would have garnered attention and publicity.
But instead of telling those people running the awards program that, she jumps at the opportunity to be an opening act knowing she wasn't prepared. On top of that, she goes back to the same old trappings like this is 2001. She looked like a parody and an anachorism at the same time. So that's why I have no sympathy for Spears. [Edited 9/10/07 7:02am] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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Najee said: I won't even mention that the song sounds like a hot piece of Eurotrash mess. Surely, no one can listen to that crap and thinks it sounds good.
Ouch!  I think the song is okay,but that's strictly because of the producer(s).Britney's vocals are non-descript.
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Ottensen said: Alasseon said: That is so true. Say what you will about Britney now; at her peak she was an electrifying performer. It's obvious that she needs help; it's no longer funny to laugh at the car crash that is her life. She hasn't really hurt anyone but herself. She's not an arrogant punk; she paid her dues coming up. She wasn't a one-hit wonder. She made the most of a limited set of skills. And yet...imagine what it must be like to have that level of fame and success, where every move you make is scrutinized, and decisions you make involve millions of dollars and hundreds if not thousands of lives of your employees and fans. Then imagine to have all that in your hands when you are sixteen, seventeen, eighteen. Child stars mess up spectacularly...hell, ADULTS mess up spectacularly, when they are in the fishbowl of Modern Celebrity. Britney's main concern now, shouldn't be her career or dancing or "singing". It should be to repair her life. For the audience of fellow professionals(!) to act gleeful at Britney's failure? Shameful. And when those very same stars are forgotten, who will laugh at them? [Edited 9/10/07 6:29am] ...Okay, you lost me at the juncture when you stated that Britney "at her peak she was an electrifying performer..." 
(bites lip, holds tongue and quietly turns to slip out of thread  )LOL! Well, I guess it's a matter of opinion, but she had It, whatever it was. No, she couldn't sing, but half of the people who came after her, couldn't sing either. Whether she wore a catholic school girl skirt, a red leather outfit, a diamond-glitter see-through body-stocking, or just a friggin' snake, she was beautiful to look at. She started the entire trend of belly shirts, navel piercings, and low-riding jeans, to the point that girls in even conservative countries around the world, like China and India tried to dress like her--. Her charisma and sex appeal was such that it got Madonna, of all people, to wear a Britney Spears' t-shirt! Say what you will about her these past few years, but if you can watch "I'm a S-l-a-a-a-ave For You" and not react as the sweat flies off her body...  
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I heard people were laughing. If MTV did this to set her up to fail, shame on them but in the end, that honestly should affect their bottom line.
Let's face facts...MTV is all about artists like Britney, love them or hate them. They can't have their cake and eat it too....It's not like they are going to do some kind of 180 and embrace legendary singer-songwriters like Neil Young (well, they did a while ago but certaintly not anymore). Spears failure on the MTV awards show is ultimately the failure of MTV. If she wasn't ready for a top notch performance, they shouldn't have given her the spotlight. Something like that would have never happened in the past...no way! If they just put her up there as a "Let's see what happens" they are vicious! Was this thing so bad that it's the last nail in the coffin that her career lies in? The way people make it sound, she could have literally died on stage and it wouldn't have been as terrifying. [Edited 9/10/07 7:07am] | |
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Isel said: It's like she is trying to be a version of her past self--like hanging on to it when she can no longer BE that. She isn't the same Britney.. but that's not necessarily a bad thing. It's just that the sycophants want her to be the same so they can be employed... Unfortunately Britney doesn't have have the confidence (or the mental capability) to break from that former image. She could have tried to sing live.. come-out with her short hair-sans wig and a sexy but flattering outfit. Let the dancers carry most of the dancing, while Britney just maybe moved--like she ended up doing anyway. But Britney simply can't let-go. It's like she's frozen in time.. I think it's sad because I hate to see suffering in any way. And I think she's suffering--maybe from her own doing but also there is this dynamic at work--a vicious cycle. I think you hit it on the head. She's stuck in 1999 or 2000, and that type of performance has been done to death by Janet, by Madonna, by Paula, by J. Lo, and so many others. It's played out. And even if it weren't, you don't wanna see a mother of two writhing around on stage in a boa and a thong. At that point, an artist has to dig deep in their talent and come up with something new. I think the pendulum is gonna shift back to more of a Dave Grohl type of performer. It's like we're at the end of the 80's; all this style without substance is tiresome. If Prince came out in a purple trench, lace gloves, and rolled his Susannah Hoff eyes at the audience, even if he were 23, he'd get laughed off the stage now. Prince has had a 30 year plus career because a) he's got talent to burn b) he's not afraid to take chances and go places most people wouldn't go. c) he never shows up onstage unprepared. Despite any craziness in his life, when it's showtime, it's GO time. The consummate professional. Britney looked afraid, nervous, hesitant, lethargic, and quite sad up there. I wish her well...
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Ottensen said: Alasseon said: That is so true. Say what you will about Britney now; at her peak she was an electrifying performer. It's obvious that she needs help; it's no longer funny to laugh at the car crash that is her life. She hasn't really hurt anyone but herself. She's not an arrogant punk; she paid her dues coming up. She wasn't a one-hit wonder. She made the most of a limited set of skills. And yet...imagine what it must be like to have that level of fame and success, where every move you make is scrutinized, and decisions you make involve millions of dollars and hundreds if not thousands of lives of your employees and fans. Then imagine to have all that in your hands when you are sixteen, seventeen, eighteen. Child stars mess up spectacularly...hell, ADULTS mess up spectacularly, when they are in the fishbowl of Modern Celebrity. Britney's main concern now, shouldn't be her career or dancing or "singing". It should be to repair her life. For the audience of fellow professionals(!) to act gleeful at Britney's failure? Shameful. And when those very same stars are forgotten, who will laugh at them? [Edited 9/10/07 6:29am] ...Okay, you lost me at the juncture when you stated that Britney "at her peak she was an electrifying performer..."
(bites lip, holds tongue and quietly turns to slip out of thread )I feel the same.. I know she was very popular but i never thought that she was a great performer ( electrifying performer ) | |
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I was so curious to see this performance....however I anticipated it to be not what she use to be....with that already being the focus befored I viewed the actual performance, I got what I thought I was going to get. I"m not into bashing anyone because I don't know them personally. I like Britney's pop songs....they are manufactured just for that sound. Obviously I'm not the only one liking it because the girl has made millions. If you are a true music lover than you all know that what we choose to listen too is our very own personal preferance. I listen to just about everything except country. I have Stevie Wonder and Justin Timberlaje in my car cd deck "right now".....If those two aren't polar opposites then who is!!!
My point is... I spent about an hour this morning sadly to say reading once again how terrible this girl is. Boy we are an ugly society. "She's Fat"...What I saw the effects from having two kids back to back....women know they get a bum wrap when it comes to weight. I'll pay to be Britney's kind of "FAT" any day!!! I think this girl will try to commit suicide or wind up being like Princess Di....hounded for ratings and people who enjoy lashing out at once's downfall. Britney will have to answer to everything she has done in the past 2 1/2 years....we act like we've never seen a star crumble under pressure before....this has been going on for years...when I was younger there were people I thought was squeaky clean...Leif Garret, Scott Baio, members of the Jackson Family and Debarge. When their dirt came out I was like holy shit!!!! Now that I"m a lot older I cannot help to have empathy for them. Yeah it must be nice to have money but you couldn't pay me enough to have every lil thing I do/say/wear/buy/eat/look/shit&piss scrutinized!!!!! 90% of the comments on every site I visited were horrendous and God forbid if someone place a comment trying to have a heart or an adult reasoning of why this poor chic is failing in life. Does anyone have someone like this in their family? You know the one person that just fucks up time and time again!!! Think about it....I hope she get's it together especially for two kids she's brought here. It is clear she is lost and noone who has benefitted from her fortune is helping. You mean to to tell me there is NOONE in her company that can help. Oh and by the way the song is not that bad...I'd bop my head to it. Boy I wish I could see the faces of orgers cringing to that last sentence!!!! LOL   "A Man Can't Ride Your Back Unless It's Bent" MLK 4/3/68 | |
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Alasseon said: Isel said: It's like she is trying to be a version of her past self--like hanging on to it when she can no longer BE that. She isn't the same Britney.. but that's not necessarily a bad thing. It's just that the sycophants want her to be the same so they can be employed... Unfortunately Britney doesn't have have the confidence (or the mental capability) to break from that former image. She could have tried to sing live.. come-out with her short hair-sans wig and a sexy but flattering outfit. Let the dancers carry most of the dancing, while Britney just maybe moved--like she ended up doing anyway. But Britney simply can't let-go. It's like she's frozen in time.. I think it's sad because I hate to see suffering in any way. And I think she's suffering--maybe from her own doing but also there is this dynamic at work--a vicious cycle. I think you hit it on the head. She's stuck in 1999 or 2000, and that type of performance has been done to death by Janet, by Madonna, by Paula, by J. Lo, and so many others. It's played out. And even if it weren't, you don't wanna see a mother of two writhing around on stage in a boa and a thong. At that point, an artist has to dig deep in their talent and come up with something new. I think the pendulum is gonna shift back to more of a Dave Grohl type of performer. It's like we're at the end of the 80's; all this style without substance is tiresome. If Prince came out in a purple trench, lace gloves, and rolled his Susannah Hoff eyes at the audience, even if he were 23, he'd get laughed off the stage now. Prince has had a 30 year plus career because a) he's got talent to burn b) he's not afraid to take chances and go places most people wouldn't go. c) he never shows up onstage unprepared. Despite any craziness in his life, when it's showtime, it's GO time. The consummate professional. Britney looked afraid, nervous, hesitant, lethargic, and quite sad up there. I wish her well... You can't expect Britney to change with the times that much. There have always been those types of performers and will continue to be. It sounded like she just wasn't ready to be there. She might honestly have to wait another year at this point! If I were Jive, I would seriously consider cooling things down and try to spin this and setting back the release date. | |
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Alasseon said:
I think you hit it on the head. She's stuck in 1999 or 2000, and that type of performance has been done to death by Janet, by Madonna, by Paula, by J. Lo, and so many others. It's played out. And even if it weren't, you don't wanna see a mother of two writhing around on stage in a boa and a thong. At that point, an artist has to dig deep in their talent and come up with something new. I think the pendulum is gonna shift back to more of a Dave Grohl type of performer. It's like we're at the end of the 80's; all this style without substance is tiresome. If Prince came out in a purple trench, lace gloves, and rolled his Susannah Hoff eyes at the audience, even if he were 23, he'd get laughed off the stage now. Prince has had a 30 year plus career because a) he's got talent to burn b) he's not afraid to take chances and go places most people wouldn't go. c) he never shows up onstage unprepared. Despite any craziness in his life, when it's showtime, it's GO time. The consummate professional. Britney looked afraid, nervous, hesitant, lethargic, and quite sad up there. I wish her well.. This is the deal ASSUMING BRITNEY MIGHT BE HEALTHY BUT JUST SORT OF LOST (because who really knows..) Whoever was advising Britney should have told her that she needed to sing live--and wear her hair natural with a different costume for sure. It would have been FAR more well-received it Britney had just attempted something different, ya know? Even if the performance wasn't the best, if Britney had tried to come-out with something "new,"people might have been willing to cut her some slack. I tell ya, if her TRUE FRIENDS and ASSOCIATES had been advising her, then they would have said either do something "authentic" or don't even bother performing because anything less would be a joke. But HER TRUE FRIENDS/ASSOCIATES/PROFESSIONALS weren't advising her, so there ya go. As a Janet fan, I honestly think Janet is going to have to make the same sort of transition. I'm not suggesting Janet quit dancing, but I really think Janet is going to have to "evolve" and attempt to be more of a live performer if she is going to stay in music. I think people would cut Janet some slack for trying in much the same way they have cut Madonna for slack for making the effort to sing live. No, Madge's voice isn't great, but at least she tries to sing live and has for the past what 5 or so years--even more--really ever since Evita. I remember her singing live on the MTV video awards with Lenny Kravitz, performing Ray of Light. Wasn't that around 10 years ago? I just think Janet is going to have to take the same time of risk and so will Britney(if she even remains interested.) [Edited 9/10/07 7:48am] | |
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Isel said: Alasseon said: I think you hit it on the head. She's stuck in 1999 or 2000, and that type of performance has been done to death by Janet, by Madonna, by Paula, by J. Lo, and so many others. It's played out. And even if it weren't, you don't wanna see a mother of two writhing around on stage in a boa and a thong. At that point, an artist has to dig deep in their talent and come up with something new. I think the pendulum is gonna shift back to more of a Dave Grohl type of performer. It's like we're at the end of the 80's; all this style without substance is tiresome. If Prince came out in a purple trench, lace gloves, and rolled his Susannah Hoff eyes at the audience, even if he were 23, he'd get laughed off the stage now. Prince has had a 30 year plus career because a) he's got talent to burn b) he's not afraid to take chances and go places most people wouldn't go. c) he never shows up onstage unprepared. Despite any craziness in his life, when it's showtime, it's GO time. The consummate professional. Britney looked afraid, nervous, hesitant, lethargic, and quite sad up there. I wish her well... This is the deal ASSUMING BRITNEY MIGHT BE HEALTHY BUT JUST SORT OF LOST (because who really knows..) Whoever was advising Britney should have told her that she needed to sing live--and wear her hair natural with a different costume for sure. It would have been FAR more well-received it Britney had just attempted somthing different, ya know? Even if the performance wasn't the best, if Britney had tried to come-out with something "new,"people might have been willing to cut her some slack. I tell ya, if her TRUE FRIENDS and ASSOCIATES had been advising her, then they would have said either do something "authentic" or don't even bother performing because any thing less is going to be a joke. But HER TRUE FRIENDS/ASSOCIATES/PROFESSIONALS weren't advising her, so there ya go. As a Janet fan, I honestly think Janet is going to have to make the same sort of transition. I'm not suggesting Janet quit dancing, but I really think Janet is going to have to "evolve" and attempt to be more of a live performer if she is going to stay in music. I think people would cut Janet some slack for trying in much the same way they have cut Madonna for slack for making the effort to sing live. No, Madge's voice isn't great, but at least she tries to sing live and has for the past what 5 or so years--even more--really ever since Evita. I remember her singing live on the MTV video awards with Lenny Kravitz, performing Ray of Light. Wasn't that around 10 years ago? I just think Janet is going to have to take the same time of risk and so will Britney(if she even remains interested.) [Edited 9/10/07 7:35am] Except Madonna -- this is not saying much -- is a better singer than Janet Jackson and Britney Spears. Her voice is stronger and clearer. One can actually understand what she is singing. But I agree. Both Janet and Britney need to sing live. | |
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Rodya24 said: Isel said: This is the deal ASSUMING BRITNEY MIGHT BE HEALTHY BUT JUST SORT OF LOST (because who really knows..) Whoever was advising Britney should have told her that she needed to sing live--and wear her hair natural with a different costume for sure. It would have been FAR more well-received it Britney had just attempted somthing different, ya know? Even if the performance wasn't the best, if Britney had tried to come-out with something "new,"people might have been willing to cut her some slack. I tell ya, if her TRUE FRIENDS and ASSOCIATES had been advising her, then they would have said either do something "authentic" or don't even bother performing because any thing less is going to be a joke. But HER TRUE FRIENDS/ASSOCIATES/PROFESSIONALS weren't advising her, so there ya go. As a Janet fan, I honestly think Janet is going to have to make the same sort of transition. I'm not suggesting Janet quit dancing, but I really think Janet is going to have to "evolve" and attempt to be more of a live performer if she is going to stay in music. I think people would cut Janet some slack for trying in much the same way they have cut Madonna for slack for making the effort to sing live. No, Madge's voice isn't great, but at least she tries to sing live and has for the past what 5 or so years--even more--really ever since Evita. I remember her singing live on the MTV video awards with Lenny Kravitz, performing Ray of Light. Wasn't that around 10 years ago? I just think Janet is going to have to take the same time of risk and so will Britney(if she even remains interested.) [Edited 9/10/07 7:35am] Except Madonna -- this is not saying much -- is a better singer than Janet Jackson and Britney Spears. Her voice is stronger and clearer. One can actually understand what she is singing.  Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: Rodya24 said: Except Madonna -- this is not saying much -- is a better singer than Janet Jackson and Britney Spears. Her voice is stronger and clearer. One can actually understand what she is singing. Let me guess. You love Janet Jackson. Can you tell me that Janet's singing at the Billboards Awards in 2006 was good? I believe in what I wrote: Madonna is a better singer than both Janet and Britney. I am not writing that she is an amazing singer -- far from it. But her voice is stronger and clearer. Just listen to her sing on her Confessions Tour. | |
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What is wrong with people these days? I'm truly astonished at the majority of folks here saying that she looks horrible.
She had two kids back to back. I'm beginning to think that the only ones being critical of her body are the ones who have never had children. YOU do it, and let us know what your bod looks like afterward, K? Hello? She's not going to look like she did when she was fucking 20! Cut her a break, damn! | |
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Rodya24 said: sosgemini said: Let me guess. You love Janet Jackson. Can you tell me that Janet's singing at the Billboards Awards in 2006 was good? I believe in what I wrote: Madonna is a better singer than both Janet and Britney. I am not writing that she is an amazing singer -- far from it. But her voice is stronger and clearer. Just listen to her sing on her Confessions Tour. i'd say the three are about equals on the singing department...and i enjoy janet and madge about the same...and britney should not even be brought up in the same conversation as the other two. good grief!!! Space for sale... | |
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Rodya24 said: Isel said: This is the deal ASSUMING BRITNEY MIGHT BE HEALTHY BUT JUST SORT OF LOST (because who really knows..) Whoever was advising Britney should have told her that she needed to sing live--and wear her hair natural with a different costume for sure. It would have been FAR more well-received it Britney had just attempted somthing different, ya know? Even if the performance wasn't the best, if Britney had tried to come-out with something "new,"people might have been willing to cut her some slack. I tell ya, if her TRUE FRIENDS and ASSOCIATES had been advising her, then they would have said either do something "authentic" or don't even bother performing because any thing less is going to be a joke. But HER TRUE FRIENDS/ASSOCIATES/PROFESSIONALS weren't advising her, so there ya go. As a Janet fan, I honestly think Janet is going to have to make the same sort of transition. I'm not suggesting Janet quit dancing, but I really think Janet is going to have to "evolve" and attempt to be more of a live performer if she is going to stay in music. I think people would cut Janet some slack for trying in much the same way they have cut Madonna for slack for making the effort to sing live. No, Madge's voice isn't great, but at least she tries to sing live and has for the past what 5 or so years--even more--really ever since Evita. I remember her singing live on the MTV video awards with Lenny Kravitz, performing Ray of Light. Wasn't that around 10 years ago? I just think Janet is going to have to take the same time of risk and so will Britney(if she even remains interested.) [Edited 9/10/07 7:35am] Except Madonna -- this is not saying much -- is a better singer than Janet Jackson and Britney Spears. Her voice is stronger and clearer. One can actually understand what she is singing. But I agree. Both Janet and Britney need to sing live. I don't think Madge is a great singer, but neither is Anthony Keides or a lot of other vocalists. I don't really think the problem is "quality" of singing as much as it is miming to the music a la Millie Vanelli (sp??). With the current trend, I just think people expect singers to sing whether their voices are good or bad. Unfortunately for Britney last night, she didn't sing, lip-synch, or dance very well..so.. man that's an all new low for a performer of that type of genre. I tell ya what, I was watching because I wanted to see how she was going to be received because I'm more of a Janet fan. I'd like to see Janet make a comeback, frankly. But if Janet was paying attention, I hope she and JD can "see" what is NOT working. It's definitely sad for Britney, but I'm hoping Janet learns from Britney's mistakes--that a lot of people didn't have Britney's best interest at heart. If Janet stays in music, I'm hoping she look at her home camp, and sort of make some decisions. | |
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sosgemini said: Rodya24 said: Let me guess. You love Janet Jackson. Can you tell me that Janet's singing at the Billboards Awards in 2006 was good? I believe in what I wrote: Madonna is a better singer than both Janet and Britney. I am not writing that she is an amazing singer -- far from it. But her voice is stronger and clearer. Just listen to her sing on her Confessions Tour. i'd say the three are about equals on the singing department...and i enjoy janet and madge about the same...and britney should not even be brought up in the same conversation as the other two. good grief!!! We can agree to disagree about their singing. And yes, Janet and Britney should not be mentioned in the same sentence with Madonna. | |
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gemini13 said: What is wrong with people these days? I'm truly astonished at the majority of folks here saying that she looks horrible.
She had two kids back to back. I'm beginning to think that the only ones being critical of her body are the ones who have never had children. YOU do it, and let us know what your bod looks like afterward, K? Hello? She's not going to look like she did when she was fucking 20! Cut her a break, damn! I agree. Considering that she has had two children, she looked great. The problem, I think, had more to do with her choice of wardrobe. | |
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Isel said: Rodya24 said: Except Madonna -- this is not saying much -- is a better singer than Janet Jackson and Britney Spears. Her voice is stronger and clearer. One can actually understand what she is singing. But I agree. Both Janet and Britney need to sing live. I don't think Madge is a great singer, but neither is Anthony Keides or a lot of other vocalists. I don't really think the problem is "quality" of singing as much as it is miming to the music a la Millie Vanelli (sp??). With the current trend, I just think people expect singers to sing whether their voices are good or bad. Unfortunately for Britney last night, she didn't sing, lip-synch, or dance very well..so.. man that's an all new low for a performer of that type of genre. I tell ya what, I was watching because I wanted to see how she was going to be received because I'm more of a Janet fan. I'd like to see Janet make a comeback, frankly. But if Janet was paying attention, I hope she and JD can "see" what is NOT working. It's definitely sad for Britney, but I'm hoping Janet learns from Britney's mistakes--that a lot of people didn't have Britney's best interest at heart. If Janet stays in music, I'm hoping she look at her home camp, and sort of make some decisions. I thought Janet sang live at the Billboard Awards last year? From what I remember, it did not go well. I could not understand what she was singing. She needs to get vocal lessons. | |
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Isel said: Rodya24 said: Except Madonna -- this is not saying much -- is a better singer than Janet Jackson and Britney Spears. Her voice is stronger and clearer. One can actually understand what she is singing. But I agree. Both Janet and Britney need to sing live. I don't think Madge is a great singer, but neither is Anthony Keides or a lot of other vocalists. I don't really think the problem is "quality" of singing as much as it is miming to the music a la Millie Vanelli (sp??). With the current trend, I just think people expect singers to sing whether their voices are good or bad. Unfortunately for Britney last night, she didn't sing, lip-synch, or dance very well..so.. man that's an all new low for a performer of that type of genre. I tell ya what, I was watching because I wanted to see how she was going to be received because I'm more of a Janet fan. I'd like to see Janet make a comeback, frankly. But if Janet was paying attention, I hope she and JD can "see" what is NOT working. It's definitely sad for Britney, but I'm hoping Janet learns from Britney's mistakes--that a lot of people didn't have Britney's best interest at heart. If Janet stays in music, I'm hoping she look at her home camp, and sort of make some decisions. If I'm Janet Jackson, I'm not thinking about Britney Spears. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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Rodya24 said: Isel said: I don't think Madge is a great singer, but neither is Anthony Keides or a lot of other vocalists. I don't really think the problem is "quality" of singing as much as it is miming to the music a la Millie Vanelli (sp??). With the current trend, I just think people expect singers to sing whether their voices are good or bad. Unfortunately for Britney last night, she didn't sing, lip-synch, or dance very well..so.. man that's an all new low for a performer of that type of genre. I tell ya what, I was watching because I wanted to see how she was going to be received because I'm more of a Janet fan. I'd like to see Janet make a comeback, frankly. But if Janet was paying attention, I hope she and JD can "see" what is NOT working. It's definitely sad for Britney, but I'm hoping Janet learns from Britney's mistakes--that a lot of people didn't have Britney's best interest at heart. If Janet stays in music, I'm hoping she look at her home camp, and sort of make some decisions. I thought Janet sang live at the Billboard Awards last year? From what I remember, it did not go well. I could not understand what she was singing. She needs to get vocal lessons. thats because she was doing her baby whisper singing...not because she can't sing...watch her legendary grammy performance or her decent vocals on the oscars.... btw: her grammy performance accomplished something that britney (nor madonna) ever did...an actual live vocal and dance performance that is considered legendary...why janet doesn't re-watch that performance and remind herself of what she is capable of is beyond me. after that she, and everyone else, felt that more dancers, smoke machines and freaken extras (and in britney's case a silly snake) on stage equaled a quality performance.  Space for sale... | |
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Rodya24 said: Isel said: I don't think Madge is a great singer, but neither is Anthony Keides or a lot of other vocalists. I don't really think the problem is "quality" of singing as much as it is miming to the music a la Millie Vanelli (sp??). With the current trend, I just think people expect singers to sing whether their voices are good or bad. Unfortunately for Britney last night, she didn't sing, lip-synch, or dance very well..so.. man that's an all new low for a performer of that type of genre. I tell ya what, I was watching because I wanted to see how she was going to be received because I'm more of a Janet fan. I'd like to see Janet make a comeback, frankly. But if Janet was paying attention, I hope she and JD can "see" what is NOT working. It's definitely sad for Britney, but I'm hoping Janet learns from Britney's mistakes--that a lot of people didn't have Britney's best interest at heart. If Janet stays in music, I'm hoping she look at her home camp, and sort of make some decisions. I thought Janet sang live at the Billboard Awards last year? From what I remember, it did not go well. I could not understand what she was singing. She needs to get vocal lessons. I thought she sang with a track? Well, whatever the case, I also agree Janet needs vocal lessons. I think preparing for her role in Evita, Madonna had to train more vocally, so that's why she has been more confident. Also, I think Madonna usually chooses material to compliment her vocal style. Janet usually does, but I found "So Excited" to be a bit "heavy" for her vocals, if that makes any sense. I rhink Janet's vocals sound great on songs like "Island Life," or even "Pops-up." I definitely think Janet has it in her. Anyway.. I agree with you. To get back on-topic, I think Britney is going to really have to work on her voice. She used to be able to sing.. when she was a kid? I saw something on VH1--she was in an off-Broadway show, right? Anyway, I think Britney is capable, but she is really going to have to re-invent herself on a variety of levels. | |
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Kissmequick said: lazycrockett said: NO, there comes a time when the child who is now an adult stop blaming and putting eveything on the family unit that raised her. Brit is in her mid 20s and has 2 marriages and 2 kids under belt. Blaming the parents for her erratic behavior is moot. She's an adult, she obviously has issues and as an adult should be seeking out help. Maybe the parents didn't do a great job of raising they're child, but brit brit is an adult now and should take responsibility for herself. That being said the performance was shit and that is her own fault. No one else's. Agreed. There comes a time when you absolutely have to save ENOUGH and be in charge of your own destiny.I was horrified by what I saw and wondered about Chris Angel - what happened? I just hope that she lays low and get her act together. I'm not a fan, but I would like to see her (and Amy Winehouse) get it together. To me one of the best things she could've done was rocked that short hair and let go of that press and stick hair. Just like Lindsey and Michael are responsible for their bad choices so is Brit-Brit. But it's harder to make the right choices when you've had a fucked up childhood You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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Rodya24 said: gemini13 said: What is wrong with people these days? I'm truly astonished at the majority of folks here saying that she looks horrible.
She had two kids back to back. I'm beginning to think that the only ones being critical of her body are the ones who have never had children. YOU do it, and let us know what your bod looks like afterward, K? Hello? She's not going to look like she did when she was fucking 20! Cut her a break, damn! I agree. Considering that she has had two children, she looked great. The problem, I think, had more to do with her choice of wardrobe. I have to say that even what she was wearing wasn't that bad to me. I challenge ALL the mothers on this site to put on the same thing and post a pic here. haha! Hips spread after childbirth, it is a known fact. It makes me angry because my 12 year old will start to think that she's fat. I wish people would just stop focusing on superficial crap. It's not important.  | |
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gemini13 said: Rodya24 said: I agree. Considering that she has had two children, she looked great. The problem, I think, had more to do with her choice of wardrobe. I have to say that even what she was wearing wasn't that bad to me. I challenge ALL the mothers on this site to put on the same thing and post a pic here. haha! Hips spread after childbirth, it is a known fact. It makes me angry because my 12 year old will start to think that she's fat. I wish people would just stop focusing on superficial crap. It's not important. I agree with you. You raise good points. In fact, Britney Spears is not overweight -- just overweight in celebrity standards. | |
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JackieBlue said: Isel said: I don't think Madge is a great singer, but neither is Anthony Keides or a lot of other vocalists. I don't really think the problem is "quality" of singing as much as it is miming to the music a la Millie Vanelli (sp??). With the current trend, I just think people expect singers to sing whether their voices are good or bad. Unfortunately for Britney last night, she didn't sing, lip-synch, or dance very well..so.. man that's an all new low for a performer of that type of genre. I tell ya what, I was watching because I wanted to see how she was going to be received because I'm more of a Janet fan. I'd like to see Janet make a comeback, frankly. But if Janet was paying attention, I hope she and JD can "see" what is NOT working. It's definitely sad for Britney, but I'm hoping Janet learns from Britney's mistakes--that a lot of people didn't have Britney's best interest at heart. If Janet stays in music, I'm hoping she look at her home camp, and sort of make some decisions. If I'm Janet Jackson, I'm not thinking about Britney Spears. I agree, Britney is not necessarily Janet's competition. But then again, I was really shocked that "Gimme More" was so well-received. I personally wasn't too keen on it, so I was wondering why Gimme More was received better than So Excited? No.. Britney is a mess. Thank God our Janet is strong. But there is nothing wrong with "looking at" what is working and what isn't.. as far as other artists. That's all I'm getting at. | |
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Rodya24 said: Isel said: I don't think Madge is a great singer, but neither is Anthony Keides or a lot of other vocalists. I don't really think the problem is "quality" of singing as much as it is miming to the music a la Millie Vanelli (sp??). With the current trend, I just think people expect singers to sing whether their voices are good or bad. Unfortunately for Britney last night, she didn't sing, lip-synch, or dance very well..so.. man that's an all new low for a performer of that type of genre. I tell ya what, I was watching because I wanted to see how she was going to be received because I'm more of a Janet fan. I'd like to see Janet make a comeback, frankly. But if Janet was paying attention, I hope she and JD can "see" what is NOT working. It's definitely sad for Britney, but I'm hoping Janet learns from Britney's mistakes--that a lot of people didn't have Britney's best interest at heart. If Janet stays in music, I'm hoping she look at her home camp, and sort of make some decisions. I thought Janet sang live at the Billboard Awards last year? From what I remember, it did not go well. I could not understand what she was singing. She needs to get vocal lessons. vocals may not have been tight but that performance (or shall i say the execution was on point) | |
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